That's capitalism baby! I mean most of our products are made by slave/child labor. I have a small business making clothes and buy my raw goods as ethically as I can and it's rather hard. Before the 1990s America had a robust mill industry, now I can count the number of mills nationwide on 1 hand. What also gets me about this though is I'm not even spending that much more to buy ethically produced goods, a couple dollars most per yard on most fabrics. What really hurts people like me is people have been conditioned to think paying $20 for a shirt is fine. I don't make T shirts but if I sold my clothing for the same price you could get in a store I'd be broke. Thing is with my clothing it's going to last longer, my stitch length is a lot smaller that mass produced (cause the bigger stitches they use the faster it is to make), I also do most repairs for free and the fit is custom to your body.
Anyone capable of selling this fugly stuff is actually a talented salesperson who could make real money selling a decent product for a reputable company. They should all feel confident in their ability as salespeople even though they've had one momentary judgement lapse.
Yeah, the owner of that company did a fantastic job capturing the market of stay at home, rich, depressed, millenial moms who want to feel young/trendy again. Good job to owners.
I remember i got contacted by an old friend, she invited me to this “tea party” and said i would meet a lot of great people etc. I was already suspicious about it but i decided to come. And yes, it’s obviously a pyramid scheme and let me tell you how pushy they were to convince me to join. I politely declined and went back home. After i got home, she texted me about it and she’s clearly upset about my rejection. She said i missed a great opportunity and one day i will regret it, stuck at my lame job, while she’s at the top enjoying lavish life. I said well, i never aim that kind of life anyway, and she cut the call. All this sisterhood whatever is bullshit, i never saw an environment so toxic until i met her group.
What makes my blood boil is knowing 80%+ of MLM victims are in the 'Christian' demographic. Whenever you mix $$ with 'prayer', prayer-circles, 'God wants this for me', blah, blah.. it's total cringe.
I work at homeless shelter and we constantly get huge donations of this clothing. Now I know why. It basically comes from people who bought it and couldn't sell it. That's so sad
I've seen this a lot with Avon too. I always felt bad for this rep who sold her overstock reduced in a little mall. She couldn't be making any money to cover her table in the mall, plus paying for the product. It's terrible. Avon has people paying out of pocket, to sell their products that didn't sell, at reduced prices.
I shop a lot at goodwill & Salvation Army and I’ve also noticed there’s always MASSIVE amounts but before this, I always just assumed it went out of style
Please NEVER EVER PAY a company to work for them. Its a scam. I'm currently in college my major is Accouting. I read so many stories like these. I didn't even know this company existed. These pyramid scheme companies are everywhere. I'm sorry about all these hard working women.
Actually there is a common business model that requires just that - franchising. You pay a company for the advantage of giving you a leg up in business by using their business model and name. Sadly a lot of these pyramid schemes count on the ignorance of people who most likely don't know the difference between a franchise situation and a MLM (multi-level marketing). Like the video says, MLM generates revenue not from products sales, but from recruiting other consultants. "Buying in" is not the problem or a scam in and of itself really.
I get your point but "paying for a job" is what most people have been told to do with college or vocational training, unpaid or underpaid internships (you're spending your time, gas money, likely professional wardrobe, etc), networking events, etc.
i understand your pain many years ago i invest in a company similiar to lularoe the company was amway they want you to go to the meetings and pay 8 dollars a week to listen to the same thing week after week for about 45 minutes and you actually learn nothing and only people at the top make money so i understand what all of you women are going through with this company and if you have friends falling for these scams tell them to get out and ask God to help them and to give them guidance.
I'm so glad that MLMs are being called out for their predatory and cult like practices. These videos on Lularoe in particular have stopped so many people from being exploited.
Sadly they're still going strong. If you look at videos of Shannon Watts people are saying she inspired them to join LeVel....they don't realize she was over 400k in debt, her house was in danger of foreclosure and she was borrowing from her husband's retirement fund.
@@Afmedic85 Yeah. That’s one of the worst cases I’ve heard in recent history. You would’ve never known they were so unhappy and in such debt by her videos. She was an incredibly positive person though, and didn’t deserve her fate. It’s appalling what Chris did to her and their kids. I hope he has daily nightmares about what he did.
Women have been beaten down with a toxic form of feminism. They feel deep down that if they aren't at some job making good money, they are losers. They feel alienated.. and . ashamed. Being a mom and even just having a regular job has been downloaded into them via media. It's not enough. This sets them up for scams with big promises of riches and glory.
Fr. First thing I would have done is pay off debt and built up savings. You can make yourself look really rich with just a tenth of that $50k check in a middle class setting but she blew it all. Baffling.
I just can't wrap my head around making $20-50K a month (and that was just the bonuses) for years and end up being completely broke. Even if someone is telling you to live lavishly, why would you spend it all? Pay off your house, save for retirement, save so you can do it for 5 years and then not work ever again. I don't even know how to spend $20k a month every month. I would have been stockpiling, yes you can still look good without spending it all.
I have similar thoughts, but have to keep in mind the social appearances aspect of it and how the company pushed these women to spend, spend, spend. They weren't just caught up in the clothes business but also the glamour community and brainwashing end of it.
Even at this point, sell the shit you still have for a fraction of what you "should" and get a bit of your money back... just get it out of your house and work on starting over since it's obvious they aren't going to help you
My best friend paid the $5K and wanted her and I to do it. I was working as an insurance underwriter and had serious reservations about it. It just didn’t feel right. So glad I trusted my instincts.
I'm living my best life selling this product, drive a 2021 BMW and own a $400,000 town house.... so sad that people don't look beyond comments like yours. So GLAD I trusted my instincts
Is your friends name Doreen? Lol jk the only time I heard insurance underwriter was a show called Rookie Blue. Rookies, Andy and Tracy did undercover as best friends, one is insurance underwriter and one is a stripper lol
$50k-$70k A MONTH & she wasn’t saving & paying off her home?? There’s much more happening with that mentality than a poor business investment. She is exactly who an MLM seeks.
These pyramid schemes encourage you to spend the money because they want you to become dependent on them, they even encourage you to "retire your husband", lol! What they don't tell you is how much money she spent just to keep her rank. Ranking up is the easy part, keeping your rank on the other hand is the hard part, especially when your friends and family refuse to support your make believe business. The consultants will inevitably become the customers, the only way to try to make any money back is by concentrating on recruiting.
“You’re customers are stale…” Wow, what a heck of a thing to say whether your online or brick & mortar. Customers don’t become stale if you have something worthwhile to sell them!
Their products are stale, not the customers. Business 101 teaches encouraging return custom, by offering quality products and services, and new products.
The true crime is how on earth such ugly pieces of clothes got sold in the first place! Hideous! Sad to see so many good women got completely ripped off!
People at the thrift store don’t even want them. At my local thrift store they literally have a mystery free bundle Friday bag & that’s how they get rid of the lularoe…
A few of my FB friends started selling these years ago. I didn't have money to buy any at the time so I didn't feel too bad about it.... I wonder how much worse I'd have felt if I'd had the money and purchased only one of these hideous items just to support them? Now I only feel bad that I might be insulting their taste in design and they may have possibly gotten ripped off as those in this video did.
Also you'd be able to target specific niches instead of trying to sell shapeless dresses with weird patterns. People in this MLM didn't have control over what inventory they even got or any knowledge or control on where the clothes came from.
I worked with a girl who wore these clothes and she looked awful. Poorly manufactured clothing made with cheap material. No one had the nerve to tell her.
Man, I actually bought a solid color pair of leggings from them, and one striped shirt. The shirt was ENORMOUS and shapeless, and the "up to size twelve" leggings that I received were barely big enough for my size six body. They were also really uncomfortable. Most useless clothes I ever bought.
I have like 15-20 LuLaRoe dresses, all bought at thrift stores! I love the dresses, but I refuse to buy from the company or any sellers, only from resale and thrift stores.
"I felt like a celebrity." "There was a whole bunch of women that wanted the best for me." These statements seem to point to self esteem that comes from outside themselves. Fellow women, let's acknowledge we are valuable because we are good people capable of loving and working hard. Love yourself as you are, regardless of money in the bank, cut yourself some slack especially on those days when you don't feel like a celebrity. I wish you all peace, health and an easy smile.
When I heard this all I can think about the term "lovebombing". Very popular psychological manipulation used by cult members to make their victim feel so accepted.
I remember when I was gonna join, my husband called it immediately and told me it was a pyramid scheme. I'm so glad he was able to convince me, and I backed off from the company.
@@salmyrle1920 I agree with you. My autistic grandkids love when I wear the Disney leggings and while I didn't know about the pyramid scheme, was happy at some of the styles to show me how much weight I was losing!!!! Plus I was getting great deals!!!!
It was so fakey - gag🤢. You could feel the shallowness of it all. I had heard about it - then when I saw the product, I was stunned. It was the ugliest crap I had ever seen!😵💫 I just could not see the attraction. I did find a shift type dress (I call my MiMi dress, lol) that was comfortable & in a print I could live with at my daughter’s party she scheduled for her neighbor. The dress was what I wore on the days I babysat my precious grand baby. It really was a ‘grandma’ dress.👵🏼
What are these people on? Being proud of yourself for spending $4000 on a purse!? $10,000 on a dinner because somebody told you to? Honestly. Brainwashed or braindead.
@@davisholman8149 Lol. I see Lularue clothes at thrift stores aaaaaaaaall the time. They are pretty hideous. I dig some of the stretch pants because they're comfy, but yeah, some of those prints should be criminalized 😂
Why? This woman failed! She bought the clothes from MLM so the MLM didn’t need her to sell them, they had their money because she bought the stuff of them! The minute she started recruiting others to do the same she was setting these new recruits up as competitors! because now she not only had to sell her stuff to recoup what she bought from the MLM she had to do it along with those she recruited, trying to sell their stuff too! That’s not good business thinking! Nope, this woman is not clever, recruiting the very people she would have to go up against to sell her own stuff to get back what she payed MLM for them! It’s terribly sad that these women get caught up in these schemes and this is why we need videos like this, to enlighten these women on what exactly can happen to them if they join any kind of MLM!!
@@niilsaa Oh please, and me a coal miners daughter! Best laugh I’ve had all day! Didn’t your mamma tell you when you insult, you don’t win the argument? Mmm, maybe you didn’t listen? We are all allowed an opinion, doesn’t matter if others like it or not but what really puzzles me is how others that you are not giving that opinion to like to jump in like some kind of cloaked hero to fight other peoples battles especially when they are not asked to? Must be the compulsive need to be noticed! Stop trying to be a martyr, it’s boring, especially when you haven’t got anything much to say. What charisma? Were you not listening to her? She told you herself that she was hooked into the scheme, she wants to warn others! Now that’s commendable, and that should be celebrated but good business woman? No, and that’s from her mouth not mine! Sheesh!
I looked them up and they are still recruiting people, but now the “join the family “ package price is $499...... They should be shut down after what they did to those women. Best wishes ladies. Do your own thing. Mama Roe is not better than you, she is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Start your own business and treat people right. You will be happy and better for it in the long run🦋
Money doesn't change people. Money simply reveals who you already are. The woman who cried when her "friends" turned on her- they were not friends. Just greedy. Consider it a blessing that they cut ties. Life is short. Pack light.
Confusing friendship with transactional relationships is increasingly common. MLM is only one of many forms of transactional acquaintances passed off as true friendship.
Back in the 80s, I had a friend who sold Amway. He was pushing their cleaning products all the time until I finally told him, "We live in a major city! I can get this crap anywhere at any time!" He kept pushing and even wanted us to go to a convention in Vegas. He had to borrow money from a friend in order to go but he didn't see anything messed up about that. For many years, we didn't see him. Then, out of the blue, he contacted me and he seemed to want to get together with us again. My husband was skeptical so I had him visit my office. Sure enough, now he was pushing some financial MLM. I was really so disappointed and told him. He got very defensive and left. Years later, he tried to friend me on FB and I refused. I wish him well and I hope he was able to make a decent living for his family and himself.
The MLMs destroy absolutely everything, including relationships. One of the things they promote of for their members or "distributors" to stay away or cut ties from those who don't support them and their scheme or refuse to become part of the company. If this ain't the epitome of culty behavior, I don't know what is!
Maybe we all have one of those "friends" i had one she would sell every brand of MLM makeup, the first couple of times i felt bad for her and brought a couple of crappy items, then it started to get annoying and i didnt respond to her messages. Funny enough she never deleted me from the socials, i see shes doing social work which is a lot more of a commendable career than all these scams
I have limited sympathies for Courtney (the former mentor). Yes, the debt she got in forcing her to sell her house is awful, however what I got from this is she quit after "the business" wasn't sustaining HER anymore, not how she understood the scam she partook and benefitted from. What about the 3500 ppl under her that were recruited into the scam? What about their financial difficulties? They never even got to taste the success she had. They didn't get to therapy-shop at louis vuitton. What goes around, comes around!
I remember when my friend hosted a lularoe party once and I was the only one who bought something from her (just a basic black sweater) and how her “boss” called her the moment the party was over and started screaming at her over the phone for only selling one thing. I felt so bad but also I told her that she needed to quit this cuz that was not healthy. She did thankfully but kept buying the products which I sadly think was a waste of money
These women lose a ton doing those parties. Often times they're encouraged to have the place looking nice with decorations, offer food and drinks, music, and none of that is covered by the company. And a lot of people end up buying something small just out of pity and guilt. So sad.
@@LOVEBABY138 it's terrible she'd be yelled at for not selling enough. you can't force ppl to buy. they might want to buy later on though. however, these parties should be fun and social as well.
@@oooh19 it happens more than you think. I worked at Macy’s and we were given a total of what we had to sell and our total affected if they’d get rid of us with the year or not
Awe man....the tears over losing what they thought were friendships... That is something I think many women crave is that sense of community and belonging. To be in the "it" crowd and proving themselves. Ugh, this hurts to watch..
I see the same thing in STAHM who are overly invested in their churches, too. I live in the mid-South so it's mostly Southern Baptists here and you know what that bottle of poison looks like. Same result if one of them "steps out of line," too.
Wow the woman crying thanking the man putting up her home's for sale sign killed me. She's obviously grateful for the help with selling her house but overwhelmed with guilt and shame.
i had to skip past the part afterwards where her child just looks up at her bc is it even right for refinery 29 to be filming her like that, in front of him?? didn’t feel right to me
19:37 that right there is someone who makes poor financial decisions. Despite becoming a millionaire, she's broke. Color me shocked that someone who spends 4k on a fugly purse & 275 on cheap mystery metal fobs for it and 24:50 10k on a føøkin dinner ends up broke. Lmaooo
Same here. I have some wool sweaters I’ve worn for more than a decade. Shoes and boots are re-soled and re-heeled. Even t-shirts last three and four years.
@@Laudanum-gq3bl men more than women seem to grow attachment to clothing. Especially sportswear. No way will I throw away my football teams favourite strip or the band t-shirt I bought at their concert in 2010!
I have some beautiful pumps that I purchased around 1980….and I am about to turn 61! I try to purchase quality classic pieces. Most of my wardrobe cost less than $20, lots of it good brands. I’m a bargain shopper. One of my favorite winter coats was purchased for $15, originally $300.
I work at a thrift store and we have had HUGE stocks of this shit coming through as donations lately….nobody wants to buy it secondhand and cheap either because it’s all so ugly and low quality but I look at how much we have coming in and wonder if that was someone’s life savings…so sad
I shop Goodwill. Isee huge inventory with tags on recently. At all the Goodwills.Maybe it's the right time to donate it to charity for tax records. And then call it quits.
How did Courtney lose her home! She could have moved in with a relative and rented out her house. Or just rented out rooms to pay the mortgage. You have all this money coming in $11,000 to $20,000 + monthly and you didn’t pay off the house!?
@@shannonsmith2642 it’s not about being smart. Plenty of intelligent people are victims of mlms. Especially women who seek companionship and community.
In my anti MLM group, they explain what those income claims really mean. That 'momey" they make is actually just money they have to save to put back into the buisness. You HAVE to use that money that you make to buy more inventory in order to keep your quote "elite status". And you need to have that status title in order to earn that kind of income and live the kind of lavish life they expect to keep you in that title (keep you with those connections amongst those types of "important" people). It's all about the image of things...and the dopamine hits. They don't pray on unintelligent people, they prey on people who they know will have low dopamine and don't have a village of people around them. This is very commonly single moms, stay at home moms, and overweight people who may feel shunned from society Bec of their weight, and people with desperate financial issues. They promise these people a community that cares about them and promise them success of a millionaire. So even tho they make $11k a month, that's not the goal, their uppers try to push them to being the next "millionaire" in the group and in order to do that guess what you have to do -- keep buying supplies in order to keep your title/level in the pyramid, and to keep recruiting. As the 2nd lady mentioned, it wasn't just about the money and then using it to pay off their house and debt and stop the MLM. The goal was to get women to keep recruiting so they could get super elite status and then have them live within the community of the c.e.o and "her People". The more "people" the c E.o and her ladies has around her living lavishly, the more the lower people thinking of starting in this MLM, will want to join. So the whole thing is a plot from the very top to make it seem like they can live this millionaire life. So when they get 11-20k a month, they're told, you have to "reinvest" that in MORE inventory in order to get to an even HIGHER status. They also have "retirement parties" which are usually not true, where uppers brag about "you can retire your husband !" (Your husband doesn't have to work anymore). They keep throwing these unattainable things in front of women. 11-20k a month cannot retire your husband, so they tell her to "keep going" until you can do that. Why? Because then she won't stop in the company. Then she'll keep buying and recruiting thinking she can "retire her husband" , "fly with the c.e.o" be a part of the "big people" and THEN you'll have "full financial wellness for your family". For a stay at home mom who feels isolated from society, (they don't get much contact and are always around kids or just other SAHM mom's), for someone who I a single parent with no spousal support, for those who have been drowning in debt for so long -- the idea of NEVER ever having to worry about money again (making millions) is more lucrative than just taking the 11-20k a month you're talking about and using that money on actual finances due and debts. So basically the MLMs goal is to get women to reinvest the money they make every month into recruiting and buying more inventory. A big part of recruiting is image- so that means they need to spend a lot of that income on image type things (a fancy car, vacations, fancy bags and clothes) to get people joining under them to believe it's worth it to join under you & be a part of this company. On my anti- mlm group they have stories of people who had joined in their past who were told to fake the luxury if they had to (and alot of them DO). They were told if their sales are low to go rent a really expensive car for the weekend and act like they just bought it. They were told to act like they were going on a fancy vacation with their family, and take a picture of their family in the car together acting like they're going somewhere. It was all about making these exciting statuses and using a lot of emojis and using a lot of phrases such as " THIS is happening. Right now !!!". "Exiting new opportunity!!!!" These women spend a majority of their time working on their online presence and on trying to make statuses and videos that sound like they're living their best life and that this company is everything. The goal is to get women to join under them, not really to sell the product. So that's why so much of their monthly profit has to go into showing to the outside world that they are living a lavish life. They are told by women they trust who feel like family, that they'll eventually get there. That next year they'll get to a point where they can work less, retire their husband, and live in a mansion with their kids happily ever after. So they keep pushing and working every month trying to attain this dream. many realize it's a farse when they've been working years and the dream never comes.... These women are told they OWN their own business. They make them feel successful, important, and like they are CAPEABLE of supporting their kids and spouse on their own. That is so appealing and is like bait to a single mom or stay at home mom who knows she has to watch the kids at home but also badly wants to work from home to make her own money too. It's sick the type of methods they use to get these women to keep spending all their monthly income and pour it RIGHT back into the company is similar to methods cults use and MLMs are often described as cults. So yeah, that money they say they make every month isn't always what they actually profited-- That actually goes inside their pockets to keep. Alot of times they're expected (they HAVE TO) BUY more inventory with that money in order to stay in the MLM and stay within their title. Alot of time that number doesn't show all the inventory they had to buy and alot of that money includes their downlines sales. MLM people are especially good at stating a number they "made" without telling others everything that goes into that number. For example, my dad runs a newspaper "buisnesses" the newspaper send him a little over a million dollars every month into his account. But it's his job to buy actual product, the newspapers, with that money. It's his job to buy the supplies that his workers need such as bags and other supplies. It's also his job to use that money to pay his workers who are delivering the product for him. So sure my dad could screenshot an image of that over 1M in his account and say that's what he "makes" but you have to take into account what it takes to keep the buisness going so that he can keep receiving that money every month. MLM people do that. They will often quote the big number going into their accounts and don't tell people what they have to do WITH that money in order to keep their status and "buisness" running for the next month. They usually aren't quoting pure profit. And they manipulative it like that on purpose. There's even Facebook groups where MLM people are SO desperate to stay within their elite title ("mentor", "partner", wherever they are on the pyramid) that they will ask other MLM people to sign up their name under them just so they can keep their status. Because if they don't keep their status, they loose money and fall down the pyramid to the beginning line. There's a bunch of people on these groups saying stuff like "I need 2 people to sign up under me to get my 2k check this month," and in exchange, they will sign up under the other person's on MLM Down Line. then they then have to use that money to buy more profit because you have to buy a minimum of 5k of product a month if you're in ___ position on the period. I'm sure that out of that 11k she earned each month, 5k went into buying lavish things, taking her down lines out to dinner, spent on these "reward trips" you get where the company acts like you won a free trip when really you get there and it turns out you have to spend your money on everything but the room (and your job is to take photos of the trip and write statuses to put online. That's their "work"). I'm sure the other 5k went into inventory and having to buy more product for the next month and I'm sure that the more she made, the more product they told her to buy (her uppers would want her to buy more product because that makes THEM more money). !!!! So when she started making 20k a month, her upline would tell her "oh, no , you're not done yet. If you hang on until next year, I bet you'll get the car they "give out" to those in the highest position Wait until then !" And because she was now making 20k, she had to buy 10k in product now to keep her new high status. And she now has to spend 10k a month in spending it on impressing more downline, taking more downline out to dinners and events, etc. Basically it's a big circle that never ends. Round and round it goes... You make money only to buy more product/recruit more, only to go up a line in the pyramid, only to have to buy MORE product and recruit more people because you're up so high. Buy product, make money, buy more product, make more money. On and on it goes !!
I watched one long video where the clinic they were recommending had ties to the family through an surgeon uncle who went to jail for doing illegal surgeries that killed some people.
After I got married and moved to the town where my husband lived, his secretary told him she was giving sn afternoon party to introduce me some other ladies. She made it seem like a bridal shower. I arrived dressed very nicely only to discover it was nothing but a MLM party (and everyone else was dressed in jeans and sweats). Not only did no one give me any gifts, I was expected to buy something, LOL! That was the one and only time I ever attended a MLM party. Never again.
I once went to a “girls get together” at a “friend’s” house & it was to sell that aromatherapy stuff. I can’t stand how pushy they are & put you on the spot. “What is holding you back?”, “What if I told you it healed my son’s asthma/eczema/nightmares etc…”, “are you really to change your life?!”…..
This is the way Mary Kay works, too. I tried it out then found I needed to talk other people into becoming "consultants". I was not okay with talking other women into investing money into inventory. I just sold it for awhile then quit it all together. It's just a pyramid scheme.
Someone I knew ended up selling those ugly clothes as a side hustle. I couldn't believe it when she told me that she couldn't even chose the prints that she wanted to sell and that her and the other local sellers would exchange prints with each other. Thankfully, she was able to sell off her inventory, at least made her intial investment back, and got out before the bottom fell out on this MLM. I feel bad for the people who lost so much money and now have a huge inventory that can't get rid of. However, this serves as a lesson on why you should stay away from MLMs.
Honestly Courtney seems like the type of woman who is fine taking advantage of other people, as long as no one takes advantage of her. She was at the top of the pyramid. She was also predatory. No sympathy for her 🤷♀️
@@fab3607 she does hold some responsibility, for sure. But these companies push real hard to keep spending money and their target audiences are low income and lack financial literacy.
And her buying a Flippin BAG for thousands and was then conned into a stoopid base metal keyring for $275 !!!! Shows how people can be suckered in to believing anything
19:37 that right there is someone who makes poor financial decisions. Despite becoming a millionaire, she's broke. Color me shocked that someone who spends 4k on a fugly purse & 275 on cheap mystery metal fobs for it and 24:50 10k on a føøkin dinner ends up broke. Lmaooo
It's difficult for me to empathize with someone who spent $10,000 on a single group dinner. Not that she's a bad person or anything, just I can't even imagine life with that kind of spending power
It's crazy that so many people still fall for MLMs. Edit: I feel really bad for this woman. Let me tell you: if someone can simply "unfriend" you, and the relationship is over, it was never a real friendship in the first place.
I’ve talked to so many women who have very similar stories. All of them spent so much money & are now stuck with tons of clothes that no one wants to buy. I’ve seen some people selling them for $1 because they just want to get rid of it & be done.. It’s really disgusting what the owners did to these people.
I fell for this (AMWAY) as an over ambitious 19 year old...Went to 2 meetings, called some people once I felt that people didn't receive the invitation well... I just stopped completely... I'm grateful it happened so young it would be extremely embarrassing and detrimental at my age now...
Oh, with amway I fell too, for this one meeting)) I came home and told to my sister:"we are going to be RICH! ", she was like :" ok, just go to bed and we'll talk in the morning ", we never ever discussed it again, still feeling a bit embarrassed though😅
I am laughing 😅my husband told me he did Amway in his younger years and got stuck with 14 boxes of soap powder. He ended up buying it him self and gave away to his mother. He had a good job at the time so he could afford to pay for it and get rid of it. Now he hates MLM.
I'm 19 and they tried to get me. I met up with these two young upper middle class ladies twice and they said they were business owners... but couldn't tell me the name of their business. Then they explained their business model and said their supplier was Amway. I googled it when I got home and was pissed.
My parents were involved and did well for a while … they had some really great products! ❤ They ended up backing out because the greed-based thinking doesn’t align well with our values.
I have a coworker who was into these clothes. I thought they were ugly as all get out, but she was so sweet I could only say it wasn’t my style. She wasn’t a seller. She just had a lot of parties because a friend was a seller. But I feel bad for the women who spent thousands of dollars just for the “opportunity “ to sell them. You should never pay to work for a company. You aren’t a business owner in an MLM. Just a horrible practice all around.
Exactly. If you have to pay a single penny, let alone thousands of dollars just to work for a company, RUN. That should be your very first red flag that it's a scam. I also always thought their clothes were beyond hideous and I could never understand the craze. You couldn't pay me to walk around wearing that garbage.
Unfortunately, Some don't actually realize that until get into the program. Then they actually realize that. That's why some should actually, look into these MLM before joining them. You don't have to pay to work at McDonald's but you have to pay for these..!! Why pay to get a job...?? And their clothes look like country child looking. They're sooooo ugly.
@@dashiajames1882 They wanted to be owners of their company. Just like McDonald's you pay to own a part of their Corp. Any new business you have to pay a lot of money and be able to take a loss for at least 3-5 years, but that's why your really need an advisor before doing these steps. These women were definitely preyed on by these owners especially making it seem exclusive which causes compulsive buying behavior
I was so excited to get a pair when I heard how "buttery soft" they were. Honestly, I like the Walmart ones better, they're softer and last longer. And I also didn't like the lack of solid colors available. I'm a plain black or grey legging type girl.
And when you buy from Walmart you support children in China in sweatshops!making a few dollars per day making these products so quit buying from Walmart!
Lisa May doll, I totally agree with you on the Walmart brands of leggings & I’m a Plus’s size/Fluffy mother of 4 and a grandmother of 8 and I Love there leggings, but I’ve become Addicted to “HOT TOPICS” DISNEY Leggings. They have two kinds of makes. One is made up of 95% cotton & 5% Spandex and my Favorite ones are the ones made with 90% Polyester & 10% Spandex. They fit Beautifully, wash well and are super soft. I Air dry All of my leggings and with “HOT TOPIC,” I buy them bigger than what I really ware and they’re even More comfortable to ware. Check them out online.
I can't believe how she has that $4,000 handbag just scrunched up on her shelf in her closet. If you're going to spend that much money on a purse, at least wouldn't you want to take care of it better?.
I think it's quite fitting. Material wealth will not sustain our happiness. She thought the bag would make her feel better, more worthy, successful. But at the end of the day it didn't do any of that so it sits on a shelf. Unused. Unimportant. A dead dream.
When she was describing her “tree” of requits, am I the only one who was reminded of “The Office” when Michael was tryIng to explain he was not in a pyramid scheme and Jim just goes up to the white board, and without saying anything, draws a triangle around Michael’s sketch of how it works to show he was in a pyramid scheme...😂
PROUDLY never purchased any of these god-awful clothes. I could not figure out why my 30 year old friends would wear clothes that made them look like 60 year old Grandma's from the 80's.
Girlfriend I’m with you on I’m so thankful that I didn’t get involved with any of this nonsense. I had so many friends of mine “TRYING” to get me to come to there LuLaRoe parties or there online sales on Fakebook and so on and Everybody knew how much I Loved wearing Disney Legging’s (or just Disney in and by itself) so when they “Supposedly” came out with a Disney line, boy howdy was my phone texting of the hook like crazy and women messaging me from everywhere to join in with them. It was crazy 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Yes! They reminded me of of the horrendous crap my obese mother still wears to this day! People think loud patterns hide your body fat but they don’t! 😂
I can appreciate a go to hell print as much as the next person, but some of these women looked like they had just put on a random pile of clothes in the morning and called it a day.
When I first started watching this video, I thought Roberta was a greedy, selfish, silly, attention hog. But instead, she proved to be a kind, concerned, honest, hard-working mom who merely wanted to earn an income by selling to people who wanted her goods while feeling like she was part of a caring community. I really felt for her when she cried and showed how hurt she was. I hope life is going well for you, Roberta. Best wished to you and your family.
I remember once I jumped on a Facebook live just out of curiosity when I was hearing about lularoe. It was so awkward. I was the only one on her live and she started speaking directly to me asking me what I was looking for, I thought about just clicking off but I just couldn’t do it. I actually took pity on her and bought a pair of leggings. To be fair, they are alice in wonderland leggings and I love Alice in wonderland. This was several years ago and they are still holding up after weekly wear. I just wear them around the house though, I’d feel silly rocking them in public.
Omg same!!! But it was that paparazzi jewelry. I didn’t mean to click on it and then she kept saying my name. She was doing the same thing, asking what I wanted. I only got lucky that someone else joined and she turned her attention on them. I got out of that so fast. Realized the next day she unfriended me😂 Her loss lol.
So, the owner was recruiting for gastric sleeve: if she brought 18 people down there, I’d think she’d get a cut for bringing so much business. It broke my heart ♥️ when Courtney said to she felt ashamed cause she didn’t have a husband to bring. So she bought herself an expensive purse.
@@oooh19 The woman in the video wasn't single, her husband couldn't come because he had another obligation. And she was even shamed for *that*. It's ridiculous
I cried when she hugged her Beautiful MaMa because being a MaMa hurts so much when you see your children hurting 😢😢😢I could feel the pain that they Both felt.
She… washed them obviously..? At least one seller talking about mold. There was another woman talking about how customers would complain about mold, and she’d accept them back with a refund. She doesn’t have to do that at all, she could have just scammed them and just told them to go cry about it.
It's so baffling that people are still being drawn by LuLaRoe. Also, they're carefully crafting a perfect image on Instagram and still delete negative comments. I know how to avoid pyramid schemes #becauseoflularoe
@@shannonsmith2642 Their instagram was still active the last time I checked and had very fervent supporters in the comments. Also they're still deleting negative comments.
@@eunicevillaneda-bolanos8474 id like to know who’s wearing this stuff. The goodwills are full of the clothes and pretty sure they aren’t being sold anymore.
I got in trouble with Mary Kay, because i was invited to a party, and they were trying to recruit me and after they explained it, i said out loud (i was 18), "this reminds me of when i get a letter in the mail with a buck in it and they ask me to send a buck to every name on the list and add my name and send it to people." I also said, "if i start selling it, i take customers from other sellers" and then they focused on recruiting and that was how you made your money and i said "yeah but eventually everyone will be recruited and nobody's gonna be buying" Needless to say, I did not get recruited.
I used to process clothes at Goodwill and would always see LuLaRoe in barely used and new condition. The prints were always ugly and people barely bought them at the extremely discounted prices. I feel sorry for these women.
Lol I got my only pair of LulaRo leggings from Goodwill. They were like $1 and of Frankenstein's monster. ... the best part about them is the placement of one of the monster's faces on a certain part of my anatomy. haha terrible clothing, but very funny.
My heart goes out to all the beautiful women who were tricked into believing that this was a supportive sisterhood. I see you. LulaRoe took your desire to support your family, contribute to your community and be part of a group of strong women and used it against you. SHAME SHAME SHAME on them. May you have peace and the strength to start over and reach for your dreams. This was a hard lesson to learn but you will succeed at your dreams if you want to 🤗🤗🤗
I had two friends that joined this. From the start I honestly thought the clothes were hideous. I have a couple of items because I wanted to help their business. Lots of the patterns are pathetic. Whoever started this company has horrible taste and style.
This is one of the many reasons why it's important to uplift your friends, praise them for their achievements, and make sure they know you're there for them. When someone feels lost and alone, groups like this target them.
Someone approached me once about selling that crap back in 2016. So I checked it out on the Better Business Bureau, I just don't see how these women were encouraged to check out the company with ratings like that before joining and still join them. Had they done that, so much pain and misery could have been avoided. Those monsters that took advantage of so many people deserve to be in prison for what they did.
Thats what I'm saying, why not ask questions or do your own research first instead of just jumping right in and believing everything these people tell you.
That’s my thing. I came across them as well and alarm bells sounded just from the pitch I heard. You can be a villain and a victim in your own demise, the whole cult approach they are taking screams a lack of accountability to me.
I know a lady that's related to the women who started the company, it's her aunt. She's really really sweet, but she was only used as a model one when it first started.
“Full time pay for part time work.” Why that wasn’t the first clue is head shaking. These women go from one MLM to another never learning. Clothing to makeup to skin care, all MLMs preying on the lonely & ignorant.
I hope there were Lularoe consultants who invested the money earned into REAL assets such as real estate, stocks, bonds, etc; as opposed to investing everything into more inventory and living a lavish lifestyle.
Nearly got roped into Mary Kay. My roommate had the rest of us in the apartment have a little makeup session with a company stylist (I don't wear makeup and so I just got a facial cleanser). Then they go around the room and everyone compliments each other on how good they look, and then product papers were passed around. I started buying Mary Kay products from my roommate, but stopped within a year as it was getting too expensive for so little. She'd email me constantly about sales and things like that for a while. It makes me upset she'd try to take advantage of me, and I'm pretty sure she didn't even like me at all, but a part of me wonders how much of it was her fault. Looking back, it's a whole mind game, and it's sick. Hope these kinds of scammers rot
It's so sad I really wish that these MLM companies could be The Sisterhood that they are without so much abuse involved. I can certainly see why this was appealing to many women especially stay-at-home moms.
$4,000 I just couldn’t imagine, ever being able to pay that much for a purse. When she brought it out it looks like any other bag that got use out of it. Don’t get me wrong, I take it as a gift-which would never happen! Blew my mind. My car is only $6000
Totally agree with you, but remember, it is all about perspective. When you're making that kind of money, 4k for a purse is nothing. I remember having a discussion with a coworker about when Kylie Jenner spent like 1 million on her daughters birthday (for a very small but lavish party) and my coworker couldn't fathom spending that much on a toddler's birthday. But, for Kylie, who probably makes that in 1 week, is pocket change. When I used to work as a cashier at a supermarket, the idea of paying $30 for a pair of shoes or pants was outrageous to me. Now that I am a professional and have a pretty decent salary, I find those prices a steal. Another example, it was my son's birthday exactly a month ago, and we spent 2k on a birthday package at a nice kid's place that even included the food. We thought it was an absolutely great deal in you factor in the convenience of having someone else take care of the whole thing and we just had to show up, party and go home. One of my guests and friend liked the idea and asked me for more info, she was completely floored when I told her what we spent. She said she's never even had 2k together in her bank and couldn't even dream of spending that much money on a kid's party. So again, it is all about perspective. The more money you have, the more you spend and the less it hurts since you now have more purchasing power. However, that being said, there are things that even with the money I make now, or even if I have more, I still find a complete waste of money. For example, Birkin bags, they look so basic to me.
I paid less than that for a 2014 Kia. It’s in great shape and functions well. For me to pay that for something that will sit somewhere in my closet is ludicrous.
@@LolitaBonitaaa I think your comment is spot on. I remember when I was 18 and I saved $3,000 to buy my first car. I came from humble beginnings so that was a lot of money to me. My most recent car was about $30,000. 18 year old me making $8.00/hour couldn’t fathom buying such an “expensive” car. But, to someone in a higher tax bracket than me, $30,000 is nothing.
19:37 that right there is someone who makes poor financial decisions. Despite becoming a millionaire, she's broke. Color me shocked that someone who spends 4k on a fugly purse & 275 on cheap mystery metal fobs for it and 24:50 10k on a føøkin dinner ends up broke. Lmaooo
Every generation has a few of these "businesses". I went through Herbalife and a few others. The end result was like so many others- broke, ashamed, embarrassed, and furious. It took me a year to REALLY take responsibility for involving myself in these businesses and see the flaws in ME that made it easy to jump into them. It was tough to face myself but the payoff was self-respect. My heart goes out to these gals- tough journey 🙏
M@nn@tech was nasty too. And my nasty neighbors across the street sold that crap, and were constantly trying to recruit people. They are long gone now. Maybe there is Mannat*** in Hell so they have to get rejected forever? LOL And don't get me started on blue-green @lag@e, sold by a crooked preacher-slumlord I had to deal with. Scam-ola.
A former professional acquaintance lost all my respect when she tried, repeatedly, to no avail, Pursue me into joining Rodent & Fields. Best way to alienate yourself from ppl.
lulalroe clothes are so ugly i can’t even believe this many people would agree to selling them. nonetheless it’s really shameful how this company and many other MLMs target women
MLMs are heartbreaking, ive seen them so many times. Woman with low self esteem, addiction issues, or just plain desperate to have that "amazing" life on social media. They seem to target the vulnerable and naïve as well
I can’t help but feel bad for many of these women. They went into the business with goals, trust, excitement, reasons and a purpose. I don’t claim to know the background of any of these women, but with all due respect, they needed a purpose, to feel valued, to have a social outlet, make friends and bond with other like-minded women and yes, to help out the family income. And then to be left empty and many times with great losses. What a shame of a company.
There should be an organisation to help young women or housewives to get approved to open their small business that they dont need to fall to another MLM
There are legit sales companies like Mary Kay, where you there's multi-level but it's not an MLM where you keep buying inventory but get paid based on your recruits. I mean you can still make dumb business decisions in it, and it's still got that hype-hype, sell-sell feeling, but it is an actual business starting point. And it's not $5000 to start!!!!!
I got two pairs, my aunts neighbor was selling and I was shocked when I saw how her entire living room was filled, did not expect that much in a random suburban home. she was only selling the leggings for $3 each! trying to get rid of the inventory...they are very comfortable leggings, but the patterns are so bold I only really wear them inside the house or layering under my clothes
I was in Mary Kay for years. It was very much like this. I ended up in so much debt. The meetings and “sisterhood” were based on showing off perks and prizes and enticements of big money. It was really hard to get anywhere near directorship- you had to maintain your car and level if you did make it.
These poor women. Lularoe preyed on them psychologically and ruined them financially. I hope that LulaRoe faces consequences. It sounds like they could be held liable at least civilly, if not criminally. Also, those are truly some of the ugliest clothes that I have ever seen in my life. Like ever.
I've had so many friends get sucked into MLMs over the years. Mary Kay, Home Interiors, House of Lloyd, Primerica, Weekenders, Amway - really a lot of crap. It's natural to want to help your friends out, but these "businesses" are so predatory. Now it's Scentsy and those nail stickers. Just garbage products.
I’m pretty confident my aunt is in one but my mother has never wanted to confront my aunt about it. Even my aunts kids are sucked into being entrepreneurs with all the wrong intentions of achieving high income for a rich lifestyle. It’s truly sad
Another one that isn’t talked about it Herbalife. I learned this in my college class how these don’t actually help and keep your body in a weird bondage of losing and gaining weight.
Yes! Still to this day random people I haven't seen in like 10 years HEY GIRL! All sweet the kids are growing hope you're well ! Want to join_____. No. Oh girl it's not like ______ or _____ Yes it is. Bye.
I made the mistake of trying Mary Kay in my early twenties. The first week of joining my sponsor’s sister tried to force me to pay $400 to attend a conference in Vegas. I refused. Come to find out they had a competition going to see who could recruit the most people for their teams, to win a company trip to Puerta Villarta, Mexico. Thank God I had enough sense to stop returning their phone calls.
I’m so glad they showed the lure and motivation behind people wanting to join, because I once got an add for this and immediately thought it looked extortionist. I’m glad to hear their perspective.
So technically the commission they make is from their recruit buying “inventory”…What a joke of a company seriously!I feel so bad for all these women that were taking advantage of.
I am wondering if Courtney made so much money in the beginning why she did not pay off her house, I guess living in the lifestyle makes you think it won't end. I feel sorry for all of them
I have no sympathy for Courtney. She comes across like the type of person that would screw someone over and cry tattoo tears if it happens to her. Karma doesn't care about your tears ma'am.
Yah and s he said she was feeling bag not having a husband so she bought the Louis Vuitton. Then says when she had the balloon mishap…she walked down her stairs and looked at her husband?? I’m confused.
One of my coworkers was doing this....wow! She even had to move back home after expressing how badly she wanted to move out. My mind is blown that this is a scam.
In North America, we tend to identify personally with our work, our job, and almost always consider co-workers, bosses our friends...We need to correct that!!! Co workers, bosses are not our friends, although stories are real where bosses will help pay a mortgage etc to keep an employee afloat. Bosses here will often say their workers are family. I do know during this pandemic, some restaurant owners have paid, out of pocket, their employees, while closed, before the benefits came out. There still needs to be a distance, a professional distance. I don't think that will happen.
I spend too much of my life with my coworkers to not consider them friends. Some are closer than others and some are just professionally courteous relationships, but we're talking 40 hours + a week here. I need some friendships or I'm going to be miserable, and I need to know my boss cares about me as a person not just as an output producer.
I took an accounting class in college and we did the books for a small clothing store. After seeing what goes in to a store, the expenses, inventory, etc. And how little the profit was, I swore never to go in to that biz. Same for antique stores. Just sayin’
I almost always see an abundance at any thrift store I go to. From what my fellow online sellers have told me is that it’s harder and harder to resell as the quality got worse over time. I think that this company could have done really well, but they branched off way too fast and in the wrong way.
I read online that the crappy ones that rip easily usually say "Made in Vietnam" on the tag. While the better ones say "Made in China" I also personally experienced a brand new pair ripping right when I put them on. I was so confused because they weren't too small or anything. They were just super super thin I guess.
@@LynneMadison0731 I had a pair from their early production days and they were great. I bought them in a thrift store not really knowing about all the hype and I thought they were cute.I picked up a dress recently at the bins that was later made (probably when they expanded) and I definitely saw a that the sewing was kinda crappy. Just loose stitching and overall sloppiness.
People with narcissistic tendencies LOVE MLMs. It gives them attention (albeit fake) and they’re constantly trying to get big or get a quick buck without much effort. I don’t have social media anymore but the annoying and incessant stalking out of customers on those who sold Lularoe and other things like “IT WORKS” was sickening. These people also prey on stay at home moms that are lonely and spend too much time on Facebook 🤣. AND their posts are ALWAYS the same bingo terms they think are so cool. Things that come to mind are “sisterhood, girl boss, be your own boss, part time work for full time pay” 🤮🤮 It blows my mind that anyone would fall for such a scheme. It just takes a quick google to find out it’s a horrible “business” idea.
Oommmggg yes! There is this girl that I know that hops from mom to mom and you can tell she's so full of herself..the scary part is she has a big following because she's super church goer and it's scary with some of the shit she talks about
All they are is just mean girls that peaked in high school. Roberta is nasty to people on TikTok when they point out how stupid she was for falling for all of it and being a predator for the company herself. She's so toxic I had to block her.
Exactly. And I'm sure they all were warned about it and they dismissed those concerns because they're special and they're going to make it. It's hard to have much sympathy.
No sympathy for people who were greedy; making $50,00 a month and then stating "we were told we had to live a lavish lifestyle" do not make a lot of sense to me. You are 35+ years old and being led astray, with all of life's experiences under your belt and doubt in your mind, sis you are going to have to take the blame for that decision. I do not see victims here, aside from not being able to return damaged goods. Y'all made a lot, spent even more and now you have to deal with those bad financial decisions. It's not harsh, just reality of how finances work!
I seriously don't understand how these women didn't put any percentage of their paychecks away. They're grown adults and they didnt think to save anything?
That’s what I don’t get either. Nobody can fprce me to do ANYTHING. If I made the money I do whatever I want, and since I have a brain I’d put most of it aside. I honestly don’t understand the choices these women made 🤦🏾♀️
This is true. But this company gaslighted like crazy. Yes these women made bad financial decisions and lived highly above their means. But when you're made to feel bad over and over again about the way you look, about not living the high life, about not hitting your quota, you start to believe it yourself. And you do anything to revoke those feelings even at your own personal cost. Its like that first woman said, the rush of dopamine is addicting. And the head honcho lady looks way too much like these women in my, almost cult like, old church. A soft spoken, seemingly kind person who says she wants only the best for you. But she does it in stages. `oh' you're doing so amazing. Oh you're a rock star! Oh you're not selling as great as last month. Remember how great that felt? Dont you want to feel like that all the time? Oh. You need a gastric sleeve. It will be so much healthier for you.and I only want the best for you. Oh why havent you scheduled your surgery yet? Why are you sabbotging your own health? How could you do that to yourself? Eventually all that talk becomes your reality. That's how cults a d gaslighting works. Its easy to stand on the outside and see the wrongness of it, but when you're in the middle of it,even when you know its wrong and crooked, you feel like you can't leave or are too ashamed too. The main point of this extra long post is to please not call these women out for thinking like this
That's what I was thinking. If she sell that LV bag & other expensive things she got laying around the house, she would have enough money to pay off her home or at least be able to keep it for awhile longer. She's going to need therapy after this
The most mind blowing part is how ugly those clothes are and that people were actually buying them.
Amen girl
@@charityscreams5366 That was my firs response - How ugly! And people buy them!
Bag lady clothes! 🤢
GIRL! Those clothes are hideous 😮💨
@@UGOOMERO I remember when she called them Dog 🐕 scarves 🧣!! Honey, no self respected dog wouldn’t be caught dead wearing that mess😂
Don't forget about all the factory workers who had to sew these giant piles of horrendous, useless clothes in terrible conditions for little pay.
That's capitalism baby! I mean most of our products are made by slave/child labor. I have a small business making clothes and buy my raw goods as ethically as I can and it's rather hard. Before the 1990s America had a robust mill industry, now I can count the number of mills nationwide on 1 hand. What also gets me about this though is I'm not even spending that much more to buy ethically produced goods, a couple dollars most per yard on most fabrics. What really hurts people like me is people have been conditioned to think paying $20 for a shirt is fine. I don't make T shirts but if I sold my clothing for the same price you could get in a store I'd be broke. Thing is with my clothing it's going to last longer, my stitch length is a lot smaller that mass produced (cause the bigger stitches they use the faster it is to make), I also do most repairs for free and the fit is custom to your body.
@@zebraskin What is your company name? I would love to support and purchase clothes that have a moral compass
And the pollution of our precious plant.
Right? I wonder what the working conditions were for the production of these leggings
@@zebraskin yes, please share your company name, I'm always looking for ethical clothing brands
Anyone capable of selling this fugly stuff is actually a talented salesperson who could make real money selling a decent product for a reputable company. They should all feel confident in their ability as salespeople even though they've had one momentary judgement lapse.
Welllll said!
Yeah, the owner of that company did a fantastic job capturing the market of stay at home, rich, depressed, millenial moms who want to feel young/trendy again. Good job to owners.
This is a good take. 👍
Absolutely fantastic comment!
lol...so true!
I remember i got contacted by an old friend, she invited me to this “tea party” and said i would meet a lot of great people etc. I was already suspicious about it but i decided to come. And yes, it’s obviously a pyramid scheme and let me tell you how pushy they were to convince me to join. I politely declined and went back home.
After i got home, she texted me about it and she’s clearly upset about my rejection. She said i missed a great opportunity and one day i will regret it, stuck at my lame job, while she’s at the top enjoying lavish life. I said well, i never aim that kind of life anyway, and she cut the call.
All this sisterhood whatever is bullshit, i never saw an environment so toxic until i met her group.
What makes my blood boil is knowing 80%+ of MLM victims are in the 'Christian' demographic. Whenever you mix $$ with 'prayer', prayer-circles, 'God wants this for me', blah, blah.. it's total cringe.
@@derrickmcadoo3804 💯 and completely against what God teaches.
"God speaks to me, and in a stroke of luck, he tells me exactly what I want to hear."
Give us an update! Is she still brainwashed?
Those people in that mess are not friends. They only “care” about one another because they all need each other in order to make a profit.
I work at homeless shelter and we constantly get huge donations of this clothing. Now I know why. It basically comes from people who bought it and couldn't sell it. That's so sad
Lol. Do the homeless even wear it??
@@_eatyourveggies asking the real questions
I've seen this a lot with Avon too. I always felt bad for this rep who sold her overstock reduced in a little mall. She couldn't be making any money to cover her table in the mall, plus paying for the product. It's terrible. Avon has people paying out of pocket, to sell their products that didn't sell, at reduced prices.
I shop a lot at goodwill & Salvation Army and I’ve also noticed there’s always MASSIVE amounts but before this, I always just assumed it went out of style
@@haleynicole5940 nope
Please NEVER EVER PAY a company to work for them. Its a scam. I'm currently in college my major is Accouting. I read so many stories like these. I didn't even know this company existed. These pyramid scheme companies are everywhere.
I'm sorry about all these hard working women.
Actually there is a common business model that requires just that - franchising. You pay a company for the advantage of giving you a leg up in business by using their business model and name. Sadly a lot of these pyramid schemes count on the ignorance of people who most likely don't know the difference between a franchise situation and a MLM (multi-level marketing). Like the video says, MLM generates revenue not from products sales, but from recruiting other consultants. "Buying in" is not the problem or a scam in and of itself really.
I get your point but "paying for a job" is what most people have been told to do with college or vocational training, unpaid or underpaid internships (you're spending your time, gas money, likely professional wardrobe, etc), networking events, etc.
i understand your pain many years ago i invest in a company similiar to lularoe the company was amway they want you to go to the meetings and pay 8 dollars a week to listen to the same thing week after week for about 45 minutes and you actually learn nothing and only people at the top make money so i understand what all of you women are going through with this company and if you have friends falling for these scams tell them to get out and ask God to help them and to give them guidance.
@@jb789j human beings evolved to live in tribes, matriarchal tribes.
Humans are happiest when they belong to tribes.
We need more people like you to offer sound financial advice and services. Good luck in your chosen career 😀
I'm so glad that MLMs are being called out for their predatory and cult like practices. These videos on Lularoe in particular have stopped so many people from being exploited.
I am waiting for the video for Monat to come next.
Sadly they're still going strong. If you look at videos of Shannon Watts people are saying she inspired them to join LeVel....they don't realize she was over 400k in debt, her house was in danger of foreclosure and she was borrowing from her husband's retirement fund.
And everyone PLEASE do NOT get mixed in with the legal shield rip offs too
@@Wanderingplumeria me too! They’re the worst in my opinion.
@@Afmedic85 Yeah. That’s one of the worst cases I’ve heard in recent history. You would’ve never known they were so unhappy and in such debt by her videos. She was an incredibly positive person though, and didn’t deserve her fate. It’s appalling what Chris did to her and their kids. I hope he has daily nightmares about what he did.
4:08 As a woman, whenever I hear anything along the lines of “Empowering Women” I stay the fuuuuck away.
Women have been beaten down with a toxic form of feminism. They feel deep down that if they aren't at some job making good money, they are losers. They feel alienated.. and . ashamed. Being a mom and even just having a regular job has been downloaded into them via media. It's not enough. This sets them up for scams with big promises of riches and glory.
Empowering women to financially enslave other women lol
More like " empowering money "
only in the context of 'hustling'. empowering women to be scammed *eyeroll*
For anyone confused vice owns refinary29 which is why they are using vice footage from the documentary they did a few years ago.
Thank you. I was so confused.
Wow, I really did not know that!!! Thanks
@@ewetn1 No problem
Ok, I was SO confused.
Omg thank you I could've sworn I've seen this before but he upload date confused me
Preying on women's insecurity and feminine wounds: lack of female friendships and support, lack of financial power, lack of fashion sense.
Lula Roe is definitely not going to help with fashion sense, those leggings are just tacky and awful.
oh not the lack of fashion sense. tragic.
lack of fashion sense 🤣. At 13:16 the clothes are awful!!
Thank you! Someone had to say it. The clothes are tacky 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I caught the shade thrown 🤣
I can never understand who wore those hideous leggings as fashion outside their homes in all seriousness. *THAT IS THE TRUE MYSTERY TO ME*
Same thoughts here. I was like selling out where?!
I never wore the leggings but I loved the tops. I chose small flower patterns.
I thought they were very cheap and poorly made. And quite ugly.
Yes! My first thought was, who the hell would wear them because they're hideous.
Seriously! 😭
Making $50k a month and blew it on $4k purse and $10k dinners instead of paying her mortgage and saving. Insanity.
Because they believe it’s going to last forever.
@@francinejones2524 That, and they had to keep up the image of success.
Fr. First thing I would have done is pay off debt and built up savings. You can make yourself look really rich with just a tenth of that $50k check in a middle class setting but she blew it all. Baffling.
Greed.
$600,000 a year. She’s got no excuse for being broke.
I just can't wrap my head around making $20-50K a month (and that was just the bonuses) for years and end up being completely broke. Even if someone is telling you to live lavishly, why would you spend it all? Pay off your house, save for retirement, save so you can do it for 5 years and then not work ever again. I don't even know how to spend $20k a month every month. I would have been stockpiling, yes you can still look good without spending it all.
I have similar thoughts, but have to keep in mind the social appearances aspect of it and how the company pushed these women to spend, spend, spend. They weren't just caught up in the clothes business but also the glamour community and brainwashing end of it.
100% agree. She made more in a month than lots of people make in a year. No sympathy for her.
Even at this point, sell the shit you still have for a fraction of what you "should" and get a bit of your money back... just get it out of your house and work on starting over since it's obvious they aren't going to help you
$15k on dept repayments $5k on living allowance
but you see, the difference is that you're smart lol
My best friend paid the $5K and wanted her and I to do it. I was working as an insurance underwriter and had serious reservations about it. It just didn’t feel right. So glad I trusted my instincts.
Did your friend end up making any money? I hope she's out of it !!
Gut feelings are usually best listened too. Just Thank the Lord you listened to your gut
I'm living my best life selling this product, drive a 2021 BMW and own a $400,000 town house.... so sad that people don't look beyond comments like yours. So GLAD I trusted my instincts
Is your friends name Doreen? Lol jk the only time I heard insurance underwriter was a show called Rookie Blue. Rookies, Andy and Tracy did undercover as best friends, one is insurance underwriter and one is a stripper lol
@@chipbuttytime3396 sure mama Dee! 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
$50k-$70k A MONTH & she wasn’t saving & paying off her home?? There’s much more happening with that mentality than a poor business investment.
She is exactly who an MLM seeks.
You didn’t listen… she also re-invested the money back into it.
@@OceanicNASA, and Louis Vuitton.
These pyramid schemes encourage you to spend the money because they want you to become dependent on them, they even encourage you to "retire your husband", lol!
What they don't tell you is how much money she spent just to keep her rank. Ranking up is the easy part, keeping your rank on the other hand is the hard part, especially when your friends and family refuse to support your make believe business.
The consultants will inevitably become the customers, the only way to try to make any money back is by concentrating on recruiting.
@@OceanicNASA Which is stupid. NEVER put all your eggs in one basket.
Atleast she regretted it after, she was caught up in the sauce hopefully she can recover
“You’re customers are stale…”
Wow, what a heck of a thing to say whether your online or brick & mortar.
Customers don’t become stale if you have something worthwhile to sell them!
Lol like what a childish thing for him to say 😂
Imagine telling the manager or owner of a restaurant that their food is making everyone sick, and he goes "No YOU'RE making me sick!"🤣
Their products are stale, not the customers. Business 101 teaches encouraging return custom, by offering quality products and services, and new products.
The true crime is how on earth such ugly pieces of clothes got sold in the first place! Hideous! Sad to see so many good women got completely ripped off!
People at the thrift store don’t even want them. At my local thrift store they literally have a mystery free bundle Friday bag & that’s how they get rid of the lularoe…
A few of my FB friends started selling these years ago. I didn't have money to buy any at the time so I didn't feel too bad about it.... I wonder how much worse I'd have felt if I'd had the money and purchased only one of these hideous items just to support them? Now I only feel bad that I might be insulting their taste in design and they may have possibly gotten ripped off as those in this video did.
Yeeessss 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽ugly af
RIGHT. always thought it was all super ugly
💯
If you really like fashion and wanted a business selling clothes, the $5000 would have gone a long way in starting your actual own business!
That's really good advice. Hopefully your post will help someone.
Also you'd be able to target specific niches instead of trying to sell shapeless dresses with weird patterns. People in this MLM didn't have control over what inventory they even got or any knowledge or control on where the clothes came from.
So true. Some of the ladies were clearly talented sales reps. No reason they couldn't have had success running their own genuine businesses.
Yup...
big facts!
I worked with a girl who wore these clothes and she looked awful. Poorly manufactured clothing made with cheap material. No one had the nerve to tell her.
I do so much better opp shopping, the prices on those clothes is ridiculous!
😅 - what a niche for a special group!
My friend's entire wardrobe is Lularoe. It's awful.
Why would anyone tell someone else they look awful anyway?
Man, I actually bought a solid color pair of leggings from them, and one striped shirt. The shirt was ENORMOUS and shapeless, and the "up to size twelve" leggings that I received were barely big enough for my size six body. They were also really uncomfortable. Most useless clothes I ever bought.
I used to work at a thrift store, the amount of LulaRoe clothes we would get all the time was insane.
Cause it's ugly
I have like 15-20 LuLaRoe dresses, all bought at thrift stores! I love the dresses, but I refuse to buy from the company or any sellers, only from resale and thrift stores.
I shop at thrift stores alot. I see tons of lula roe stuff.
Yeah most clothes in my local thrift store are like this
Thrift store clothes are like 40% SHEIN nowadays. 😢 Clothes you can push your thumb through or fall apart when you sneeze too loudly are the norm now
"I felt like a celebrity." "There was a whole bunch of women that wanted the best for me." These statements seem to point to self esteem that comes from outside themselves. Fellow women, let's acknowledge we are valuable because we are good people capable of loving and working hard. Love yourself as you are, regardless of money in the bank, cut yourself some slack especially on those days when you don't feel like a celebrity. I wish you all peace, health and an easy smile.
Amen to that lady. Amen to that
When I heard this all I can think about the term "lovebombing". Very popular psychological manipulation used by cult members to make their victim feel so accepted.
Thank you ❣️
@Cali catus You are spot on!
Thanks ☺️
@@ashantiadams6403 Exactly’ and it stinks whether it’s coming from a manipulative man or a manipulative company that place profit over people.
I remember when I was gonna join, my husband called it immediately and told me it was a pyramid scheme. I'm so glad he was able to convince me, and I backed off from the company.
Keeper (noun) - That guy.
@@salmyrle1920 I agree with you. My autistic grandkids love when I wear the Disney leggings and while I didn't know about the pyramid scheme, was happy at some of the styles to show me how much weight I was losing!!!! Plus I was getting great deals!!!!
@@salmyrle1920 babe you've got some bad taste
@@salmyrle1920 Be thankful that you married a man that has taste. There isn't a single item that they've produced that wasn't fugly.
Good thing your husband is smart.
This isn't female empowerment, it's imprisonment.
It was so fakey - gag🤢. You could feel the shallowness of it all. I had heard about it - then when I saw the product, I was stunned. It was the ugliest crap I had ever seen!😵💫 I just could not see the attraction. I did find a shift type dress (I call my MiMi dress, lol) that was comfortable & in a print I could live with at my daughter’s party she scheduled for her neighbor. The dress was what I wore on the days I babysat my precious grand baby. It really was a ‘grandma’ dress.👵🏼
What are these people on? Being proud of yourself for spending $4000 on a purse!? $10,000 on a dinner because somebody told you to? Honestly. Brainwashed or braindead.
@@davisholman8149 Lol. I see Lularue clothes at thrift stores aaaaaaaaall the time. They are pretty hideous. I dig some of the stretch pants because they're comfy, but yeah, some of those prints should be criminalized 😂
Yes!!! Great comment!!!
I'd say it's closer to exploitation.
The charisma of this woman. She’s amazing. She doesn’t need lularoe, she needs her own business.
Why? This woman failed! She bought the clothes from MLM so the MLM didn’t need her to sell them, they had their money because she bought the stuff of them! The minute she started recruiting others to do the same she was setting these new recruits up as competitors! because now she not only had to sell her stuff to recoup what she bought from the MLM she had to do it along with those she recruited, trying to sell their stuff too! That’s not good business thinking! Nope, this woman is not clever, recruiting the very people she would have to go up against to sell her own stuff to get back what she payed MLM for them! It’s terribly sad that these women get caught up in these schemes and this is why we need videos like this, to enlighten these women on what exactly can happen to them if they join any kind of MLM!!
@@headron66you sound like Donald Trump writing a tweet
I agree, I can very much see the charisma this woman has. I love the way she speaks. This is very unfortunate.
@@niilsaa Oh please, and me a coal miners daughter! Best laugh I’ve had all day! Didn’t your mamma tell you when you insult, you don’t win the argument? Mmm, maybe you didn’t listen? We are all allowed an opinion, doesn’t matter if others like it or not but what really puzzles me is how others that you are not giving that opinion to like to jump in like some kind of cloaked hero to fight other peoples battles especially when they are not asked to? Must be the compulsive need to be noticed! Stop trying to be a martyr, it’s boring, especially when you haven’t got anything much to say. What charisma? Were you not listening to her? She told you herself that she was hooked into the scheme, she wants to warn others! Now that’s commendable, and that should be celebrated but good business woman? No, and that’s from her mouth not mine! Sheesh!
@@headron66 I stand by my statement
I will never understand why their clothes ever became so popular! They are freaking HIDEOUS!!! I wouldn't give their clothes to my grandma!😫😫😫
And they are not flattering
I think they show things we try to hide 😊
Cause they are comfortable
@@RC-lb6hk lies
Speaking for grandmothers- we don't want them either! Awful looking clothes.
And I'm quite sure your gran would thank you for that!
I looked them up and they are still recruiting people, but now the “join the family “ package price is $499...... They should be shut down after what they did to those women. Best wishes ladies. Do your own thing. Mama Roe is not better than you, she is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Start your own business and treat people right. You will be happy and better for it in the long run🦋
Amen sister!
Whoa $500 just to join..!! I don't even think Avon charges that much to join..!! I definitely agree.
My guess is they’ve buttered a lot of palms to not have action taken on themselves, Mama and Pops La Roe.
THEY'RE PIMPS IN CEO CORPORATE ATTIRE!!
It's totally illegal in Australia, if You're even caught promoting one You can face harsh penalties.
Money doesn't change people. Money simply reveals who you already are. The woman who cried when her "friends" turned on her- they were not friends. Just greedy. Consider it a blessing that they cut ties. Life is short. Pack light.
Chloe72 - I love your last 2 sentences! 💯
This is deep.
Yup
Confusing friendship with transactional relationships is increasingly common. MLM is only one of many forms of transactional acquaintances passed off as true friendship.
Like 12 step groups.
yh none of their interactions ever sounded like friendship.
I don't think they're even confusing it that much. There is nothing else available in their suburban hell
Back in the 80s, I had a friend who sold Amway. He was pushing their cleaning products all the time until I finally told him, "We live in a major city! I can get this crap anywhere at any time!" He kept pushing and even wanted us to go to a convention in Vegas. He had to borrow money from a friend in order to go but he didn't see anything messed up about that. For many years, we didn't see him.
Then, out of the blue, he contacted me and he seemed to want to get together with us again. My husband was skeptical so I had him visit my office. Sure enough, now he was pushing some financial MLM. I was really so disappointed and told him. He got very defensive and left.
Years later, he tried to friend me on FB and I refused. I wish him well and I hope he was able to make a decent living for his family and himself.
The MLMs destroy absolutely everything, including relationships. One of the things they promote of for their members or "distributors" to stay away or cut ties from those who don't support them and their scheme or refuse to become part of the company. If this ain't the epitome of culty behavior, I don't know what is!
I actually like those cleaning supplies :)
@@andrealmoseley6575 Ha! Sorry, not interested.
@@andrealmoseley6575 loc
And dish drops
🙄
Maybe we all have one of those "friends" i had one she would sell every brand of MLM makeup, the first couple of times i felt bad for her and brought a couple of crappy items, then it started to get annoying and i didnt respond to her messages. Funny enough she never deleted me from the socials, i see shes doing social work which is a lot more of a commendable career than all these scams
I have limited sympathies for Courtney (the former mentor). Yes, the debt she got in forcing her to sell her house is awful, however what I got from this is she quit after "the business" wasn't sustaining HER anymore, not how she understood the scam she partook and benefitted from.
What about the 3500 ppl under her that were recruited into the scam? What about their financial difficulties? They never even got to taste the success she had. They didn't get to therapy-shop at louis vuitton.
What goes around, comes around!
Right? She still has a $4,000 purse and a boutique but she is losing her house? I think she has a spending problem.
And no remorse for her victims
She was one of the vicious monsters. No sympathy for her.
Yep! And, she still had that "watch" on!
True but then aren't they all just as guilty? Only the very last one is innocent.
I remember when my friend hosted a lularoe party once and I was the only one who bought something from her (just a basic black sweater) and how her “boss” called her the moment the party was over and started screaming at her over the phone for only selling one thing. I felt so bad but also I told her that she needed to quit this cuz that was not healthy. She did thankfully but kept buying the products which I sadly think was a waste of money
You are a good friend. She was probably lonley and this gave her some importance in life
These women lose a ton doing those parties. Often times they're encouraged to have the place looking nice with decorations, offer food and drinks, music, and none of that is covered by the company. And a lot of people end up buying something small just out of pity and guilt. So sad.
@@LOVEBABY138 it's terrible she'd be yelled at for not selling enough. you can't force ppl to buy. they might want to buy later on though. however, these parties should be fun and social as well.
@@oooh19 it happens more than you think. I worked at Macy’s and we were given a total of what we had to sell and our total affected if they’d get rid of us with the year or not
Oof! I'd be tempted to shout back at that boss for treating a consultant like that!
Awe man....the tears over losing what they thought were friendships... That is something I think many women crave is that sense of community and belonging. To be in the "it" crowd and proving themselves. Ugh, this hurts to watch..
That's why we need to teach our young women to be who you are and never rely on anyone for your sense of self.
Really hurts.
Facts!
I see the same thing in STAHM who are overly invested in their churches, too. I live in the mid-South so it's mostly Southern Baptists here and you know what that bottle of poison looks like. Same result if one of them "steps out of line," too.
Wow the woman crying thanking the man putting up her home's for sale sign killed me. She's obviously grateful for the help with selling her house but overwhelmed with guilt and shame.
Me too....heartbreaking
Same…I just wanted to hug her
i had to skip past the part afterwards where her child just looks up at her bc is it even right for refinery 29 to be filming her like that, in front of him?? didn’t feel right to me
19:37 that right there is someone who makes poor financial decisions. Despite becoming a millionaire, she's broke. Color me shocked that someone who spends 4k on a fugly purse & 275 on cheap mystery metal fobs for it and 24:50 10k on a føøkin dinner ends up broke. Lmaooo
@@darkprince56 She made very poor decisions, but you can still feel sorry for her and especially her toddler.
"I actually wore this more than one time" baffles me, honestly. Clothes shouldn't be a single use thing.
Same here. I have some wool sweaters I’ve worn for more than a decade. Shoes and boots are re-soled and re-heeled. Even t-shirts last three and four years.
Yep, some people just don't understand quality over quantity
@@Laudanum-gq3bl men more than women seem to grow attachment to clothing. Especially sportswear. No way will I throw away my football teams favourite strip or the band t-shirt I bought at their concert in 2010!
I have some beautiful pumps that I purchased around 1980….and I am about to turn 61! I try to purchase quality classic pieces. Most of my wardrobe cost less than $20, lots of it good brands. I’m a bargain shopper. One of my favorite winter coats was purchased for $15, originally $300.
@@tomthomassony8607 Well we guys don't buy too much clothing, so when we like something we use the crap out of it.
I work at a thrift store and we have had HUGE stocks of this shit coming through as donations lately….nobody wants to buy it secondhand and cheap either because it’s all so ugly and low quality but I look at how much we have coming in and wonder if that was someone’s life savings…so sad
I shop Goodwill. Isee huge inventory with tags on recently. At all the Goodwills.Maybe it's the right time to donate it to charity for tax records. And then call it quits.
I was about to say this. I go thrifting often and I see it a lot. Never bought any of it. The material is so cheap.
Very sad.
Wow
that's so funny bc same here!! tons of it!! at many of the thrift stores here in pa!
How did Courtney lose her home! She could have moved in with a relative and rented out her house. Or just rented out rooms to pay the mortgage. You have all this money coming in $11,000 to $20,000 + monthly and you didn’t pay off the house!?
Yeah, unfortunately she’s not very smart or responsible.
She didnt seem particularly bright, tbh
If you get sucked into this crap you can’t be the smartest person. Clearly demonstrated here....
@@shannonsmith2642 it’s not about being smart. Plenty of intelligent people are victims of mlms. Especially women who seek companionship and community.
In my anti MLM group, they explain what those income claims really mean. That 'momey" they make is actually just money they have to save to put back into the buisness. You HAVE to use that money that you make to buy more inventory in order to keep your quote "elite status". And you need to have that status title in order to earn that kind of income and live the kind of lavish life they expect to keep you in that title (keep you with those connections amongst those types of "important" people). It's all about the image of things...and the dopamine hits. They don't pray on unintelligent people, they prey on people who they know will have low dopamine and don't have a village of people around them. This is very commonly single moms, stay at home moms, and overweight people who may feel shunned from society Bec of their weight, and people with desperate financial issues. They promise these people a community that cares about them and promise them success of a millionaire. So even tho they make $11k a month, that's not the goal, their uppers try to push them to being the next "millionaire" in the group and in order to do that guess what you have to do -- keep buying supplies in order to keep your title/level in the pyramid, and to keep recruiting.
As the 2nd lady mentioned, it wasn't just about the money and then using it to pay off their house and debt and stop the MLM. The goal was to get women to keep recruiting so they could get super elite status and then have them live within the community of the c.e.o and "her People". The more "people" the c
E.o and her ladies has around her living lavishly, the more the lower people thinking of starting in this MLM, will want to join. So the whole thing is a plot from the very top to make it seem like they can live this millionaire life.
So when they get 11-20k a month, they're told, you have to "reinvest" that in MORE inventory in order to get to an even HIGHER status. They also have "retirement parties" which are usually not true, where uppers brag about "you can retire your husband !" (Your husband doesn't have to work anymore). They keep throwing these unattainable things in front of women. 11-20k a month cannot retire your husband, so they tell her to "keep going" until you can do that. Why? Because then she won't stop in the company. Then she'll keep buying and recruiting thinking she can "retire her husband" , "fly with the c.e.o" be a part of the "big people" and THEN you'll have "full financial wellness for your family".
For a stay at home mom who feels isolated from society, (they don't get much contact and are always around kids or just other SAHM mom's), for someone who I a single parent with no spousal support, for those who have been drowning in debt for so long -- the idea of NEVER ever having to worry about money again (making millions) is more lucrative than just taking the 11-20k a month you're talking about and using that money on actual finances due and debts.
So basically the MLMs goal is to get women to reinvest the money they make every month into recruiting and buying more inventory. A big part of recruiting is image- so that means they need to spend a lot of that income on image type things (a fancy car, vacations, fancy bags and clothes) to get people joining under them to believe it's worth it to join under you & be a part of this company.
On my anti- mlm group they have stories of people who had joined in their past who were told to fake the luxury if they had to (and alot of them DO). They were told if their sales are low to go rent a really expensive car for the weekend and act like they just bought it. They were told to act like they were going on a fancy vacation with their family, and take a picture of their family in the car together acting like they're going somewhere. It was all about making these exciting statuses and using a lot of emojis and using a lot of phrases such as " THIS is happening. Right now !!!". "Exiting new opportunity!!!!" These women spend a majority of their time working on their online presence and on trying to make statuses and videos that sound like they're living their best life and that this company is everything. The goal is to get women to join under them, not really to sell the product. So that's why so much of their monthly profit has to go into showing to the outside world that they are living a lavish life. They are told by women they trust who feel like family, that they'll eventually get there. That next year they'll get to a point where they can work less, retire their husband, and live in a mansion with their kids happily ever after. So they keep pushing and working every month trying to attain this dream. many realize it's a farse when they've been working years and the dream never comes....
These women are told they OWN their own business. They make them feel successful, important, and like they are CAPEABLE of supporting their kids and spouse on their own. That is so appealing and is like bait to a single mom or stay at home mom who knows she has to watch the kids at home but also badly wants to work from home to make her own money too. It's sick the type of methods they use to get these women to keep spending all their monthly income and pour it RIGHT back into the company is similar to methods cults use and MLMs are often described as cults.
So yeah, that money they say they make every month isn't always what they actually profited-- That actually goes inside their pockets to keep. Alot of times they're expected (they HAVE TO) BUY more inventory with that money in order to stay in the MLM and stay within their title. Alot of time that number doesn't show all the inventory they had to buy and alot of that money includes their downlines sales. MLM people are especially good at stating a number they "made" without telling others everything that goes into that number.
For example, my dad runs a newspaper "buisnesses" the newspaper send him a little over a million dollars every month into his account. But it's his job to buy actual product, the newspapers, with that money. It's his job to buy the supplies that his workers need such as bags and other supplies. It's also his job to use that money to pay his workers who are delivering the product for him.
So sure my dad could screenshot an image of that over 1M in his account and say that's what he "makes" but you have to take into account what it takes to keep the buisness going so that he can keep receiving that money every month.
MLM people do that. They will often quote the big number going into their accounts and don't tell people what they have to do WITH that money in order to keep their status and "buisness" running for the next month. They usually aren't quoting pure profit. And they manipulative it like that on purpose.
There's even Facebook groups where MLM people are SO desperate to stay within their elite title ("mentor", "partner", wherever they are on the pyramid) that they will ask other MLM people to sign up their name under them just so they can keep their status. Because if they don't keep their status, they loose money and fall down the pyramid to the beginning line. There's a bunch of people on these groups saying stuff like "I need 2 people to sign up under me to get my 2k check this month," and in exchange, they will sign up under the other person's on MLM Down Line. then they then have to use that money to buy more profit because you have to buy a minimum of 5k of product a month if you're in ___ position on the period.
I'm sure that out of that 11k she earned each month, 5k went into buying lavish things, taking her down lines out to dinner, spent on these "reward trips" you get where the company acts like you won a free trip when really you get there and it turns out you have to spend your money on everything but the room (and your job is to take photos of the trip and write statuses to put online. That's their "work"). I'm sure the other 5k went into inventory and having to buy more product for the next month and I'm sure that the more she made, the more product they told her to buy (her uppers would want her to buy more product because that makes THEM more money). !!!!
So when she started making 20k a month, her upline would tell her "oh, no , you're not done yet. If you hang on until next year, I bet you'll get the car they "give out" to those in the highest position
Wait until then !" And because she was now making 20k, she had to buy 10k in product now to keep her new high status. And she now has to spend 10k a month in spending it on impressing more downline, taking more downline out to dinners and events, etc.
Basically it's a big circle that never ends. Round and round it goes...
You make money only to buy more product/recruit more, only to go up a line in the pyramid, only to have to buy MORE product and recruit more people because you're up so high. Buy product, make money, buy more product, make more money. On and on it goes !!
I wouldn’t be surprised if that woman was also getting a cut from referring people to these sketchy surgeries in Mexico…
Oh 100%!!
I’m convinced of that too. I’m sure she was getting “finders fees” for them.
No respect for others. Completely predatory.
I watched one long video where the clinic they were recommending had ties to the family through an surgeon uncle who went to jail for doing illegal surgeries that killed some people.
It has been proven they were, like $1,000
@@hanginwithlois Yup. $1000.
Never trust someone who tries to sell you clothes that hideous looking. You couldn’t pay me to wear that crap.
Hahahhaaaa... Those clothes look shitee and seem like made of low qualities materials
Word girl......
After I got married and moved to the town where my husband lived, his secretary told him she was giving sn afternoon party to introduce me some other ladies. She made it seem like a bridal shower. I arrived dressed very nicely only to discover it was nothing but a MLM party (and everyone else was dressed in jeans and sweats). Not only did no one give me any gifts, I was expected to buy something, LOL! That was the one and only time I ever attended a MLM party. Never again.
@Earth Garden Petals I'm glad you all were strong enough not to buy anything, 😂.
I once went to a “girls get together” at a “friend’s” house & it was to sell that aromatherapy stuff. I can’t stand how pushy they are & put you on the spot. “What is holding you back?”, “What if I told you it healed my son’s asthma/eczema/nightmares etc…”, “are you really to change your life?!”…..
This is the way Mary Kay works, too. I tried it out then found I needed to talk other people into becoming "consultants". I was not okay with talking other women into investing money into inventory. I just sold it for awhile then quit it all together. It's just a pyramid scheme.
Someone I knew ended up selling those ugly clothes as a side hustle. I couldn't believe it when she told me that she couldn't even chose the prints that she wanted to sell and that her and the other local sellers would exchange prints with each other.
Thankfully, she was able to sell off her inventory, at least made her intial investment back, and got out before the bottom fell out on this MLM.
I feel bad for the people who lost so much money and now have a huge inventory that can't get rid of. However, this serves as a lesson on why you should stay away from MLMs.
Honestly Courtney seems like the type of woman who is fine taking advantage of other people, as long as no one takes advantage of her. She was at the top of the pyramid. She was also predatory. No sympathy for her 🤷♀️
This is true she's just as bad as the company
She made 50K a month and didn’t save any of it or pay off the debt she has. I have no sympathy for her
100% you reap just what you sow
@@fab3607 she does hold some responsibility, for sure. But these companies push real hard to keep spending money and their target audiences are low income and lack financial literacy.
@@fab3607 Like how are you making this much money a month and not saving or paying off something?
And her buying a Flippin BAG for thousands and was then conned into a stoopid base metal keyring for $275 !!!! Shows how people can be suckered in to believing anything
19:37 that right there is someone who makes poor financial decisions. Despite becoming a millionaire, she's broke. Color me shocked that someone who spends 4k on a fugly purse & 275 on cheap mystery metal fobs for it and 24:50 10k on a føøkin dinner ends up broke. Lmaooo
Buying a 4k LV bag while wearing cheap LLR clothes 🤦♀️ I'll bet the salespeople in LV had a good laugh after she left. Totally foolish behavior.
It's difficult for me to empathize with someone who spent $10,000 on a single group dinner. Not that she's a bad person or anything, just I can't even imagine life with that kind of spending power
Making money like that and not having a savings is so irresponsible- I don't care what she was told, she's an adult I don't feel bad for her either.
This is why financial education is essential.
Fax
@@missmusicforever02 Learn English "Rebekah".
It's crazy that so many people still fall for MLMs.
Edit: I feel really bad for this woman. Let me tell you: if someone can simply "unfriend" you, and the relationship is over, it was never a real friendship in the first place.
People fall for romance scams
They're just mean girls that peeked in high school.
I only unfriend if they're strangers to me.I feel bad for that woman cause my mom was also shamed for being single mom.
@@kayllenstarships9009 nowadays single moms are looked at as heroes. Strange times we live in
I’ve talked to so many women who have very similar stories. All of them spent so much money & are now stuck with tons of clothes that no one wants to buy. I’ve seen some people selling them for $1 because they just want to get rid of it & be done.. It’s really disgusting what the owners did to these people.
I actually buy do if you know people selling
I have a friend stuck with tons of scentsy...
@@tenikatucker8858 Please tell us you're joking...
@@tenikatucker8858 our thrift stores in Utah are full of them in every size. No one's buying them here.
@@chellefell1331 is scentsy an MLM too?
I fell for this (AMWAY) as an over ambitious 19 year old...Went to 2 meetings, called some people once I felt that people didn't receive the invitation well...
I just stopped completely...
I'm grateful it happened so young it would be extremely embarrassing and detrimental at my age now...
Oh, with amway I fell too, for this one meeting)) I came home and told to my sister:"we are going to be RICH! ", she was like :" ok, just go to bed and we'll talk in the morning ", we never ever discussed it again, still feeling a bit embarrassed though😅
I am laughing 😅my husband told me he did Amway in his younger years and got stuck with 14 boxes of soap powder. He ended up buying it him self and gave away to his mother. He had a good job at the time so he could afford to pay for it and get rid of it. Now he hates MLM.
I'm 19 and they tried to get me. I met up with these two young upper middle class ladies twice and they said they were business owners... but couldn't tell me the name of their business. Then they explained their business model and said their supplier was Amway. I googled it when I got home and was pissed.
@aliya6158 I did Amway in the 90's. Amway Scamway.
My parents were involved and did well for a while … they had some really great products! ❤ They ended up backing out because the greed-based thinking doesn’t align well with our values.
I have a coworker who was into these clothes. I thought they were ugly as all get out, but she was so sweet I could only say it wasn’t my style. She wasn’t a seller. She just had a lot of parties because a friend was a seller.
But I feel bad for the women who spent thousands of dollars just for the “opportunity “ to sell them. You should never pay to work for a company. You aren’t a business owner in an MLM. Just a horrible practice all around.
Exactly. If you have to pay a single penny, let alone thousands of dollars just to work for a company, RUN. That should be your very first red flag that it's a scam. I also always thought their clothes were beyond hideous and I could never understand the craze. You couldn't pay me to walk around wearing that garbage.
Unfortunately, Some don't actually realize that until get into the program. Then they actually realize that. That's why some should actually, look into these MLM before joining them. You don't have to pay to work at McDonald's but you have to pay for these..!! Why pay to get a job...?? And their clothes look like country child looking. They're sooooo ugly.
Isn't it like Mary Kay and Avon?
@@nickih2130 yes a multilevel marketing
@@dashiajames1882 They wanted to be owners of their company. Just like McDonald's you pay to own a part of their Corp. Any new business you have to pay a lot of money and be able to take a loss for at least 3-5 years, but that's why your really need an advisor before doing these steps. These women were definitely preyed on by these owners especially making it seem exclusive which causes compulsive buying behavior
I was so excited to get a pair when I heard how "buttery soft" they were. Honestly, I like the Walmart ones better, they're softer and last longer. And I also didn't like the lack of solid colors available. I'm a plain black or grey legging type girl.
And when you buy from Walmart you support children in China in sweatshops!making a few dollars per day making these products so quit buying from Walmart!
@@carolpeyton1579 where do you get your leggings from? How much do they cost? Not everyone can afford more expensive, ethical clothing, you know?
Lisa May doll, I totally agree with you on the Walmart brands of leggings & I’m a Plus’s size/Fluffy mother of 4 and a grandmother of 8 and I Love there leggings, but I’ve become Addicted to “HOT TOPICS” DISNEY Leggings. They have two kinds of makes. One is made up of 95% cotton & 5% Spandex and my Favorite ones are the ones made with 90% Polyester & 10% Spandex. They fit Beautifully, wash well and are super soft. I Air dry All of my leggings and with “HOT TOPIC,” I buy them bigger than what I really ware and they’re even More comfortable to ware. Check them out online.
@@joereplier There are other stores that are affordable and far more ethical than Walmart
Not true
I can't believe how she has that $4,000 handbag just scrunched up on her shelf in her closet. If you're going to spend that much money on a purse, at least wouldn't you want to take care of it better?.
I think it's quite fitting. Material wealth will not sustain our happiness. She thought the bag would make her feel better, more worthy, successful. But at the end of the day it didn't do any of that so it sits on a shelf. Unused. Unimportant. A dead dream.
It's a little souvenir of a terrible year...
I was thinking the same thing. It should be kept in a dust bag. At least that will preserve some of the resale value.
Why not sell it and pay your mortgage a couple of months?
When she was describing her “tree” of requits, am I the only one who was reminded of “The Office” when Michael was tryIng to explain he was not in a pyramid scheme and Jim just goes up to the white board, and without saying anything, draws a triangle around Michael’s sketch of how it works to show he was in a pyramid scheme...😂
PROUDLY never purchased any of these god-awful clothes. I could not figure out why my 30 year old friends would wear clothes that made them look like 60 year old Grandma's from the 80's.
Comfortable stretchy mindless, and other people also wearing them.
Lol RIGHT! Never purchased anything from this 'company'. These clothes are drabby looking.
Girlfriend I’m with you on I’m so thankful that I didn’t get involved with any of this nonsense. I had so many friends of mine “TRYING” to get me to come to there LuLaRoe parties or there online sales on Fakebook and so on and Everybody knew how much I Loved wearing Disney Legging’s (or just Disney in and by itself) so when they “Supposedly” came out with a Disney line, boy howdy was my phone texting of the hook like crazy and women messaging me from everywhere to join in with them. It was crazy 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Yes! They reminded me of of the horrendous crap my obese mother still wears to this day! People think loud patterns hide your body fat but they don’t! 😂
I can appreciate a go to hell print as much as the next person, but some of these women looked like they had just put on a random pile of clothes in the morning and called it a day.
I think it's ironic that the owners say lularoe is not a pyramid scheme but their logo is a birds eye view of a pyramid.
Good catch
Oh my word , you’re right!
Amazing observation!
Oh wow you make a good detective
@@LillysConner lol thanks 😊
When I first started watching this video, I thought Roberta was a greedy, selfish, silly, attention hog. But instead, she proved to be a kind, concerned, honest, hard-working mom who merely wanted to earn an income by selling to people who wanted her goods while feeling like she was part of a caring community. I really felt for her when she cried and showed how hurt she was. I hope life is going well for you, Roberta. Best wished to you and your family.
I remember once I jumped on a Facebook live just out of curiosity when I was hearing about lularoe. It was so awkward. I was the only one on her live and she started speaking directly to me asking me what I was looking for, I thought about just clicking off but I just couldn’t do it. I actually took pity on her and bought a pair of leggings. To be fair, they are alice in wonderland leggings and I love Alice in wonderland. This was several years ago and they are still holding up after weekly wear. I just wear them around the house though, I’d feel silly rocking them in public.
I love Alice in Wonderland too! If you’re ever in Oxford, England be sure to visit Alice’s Shop; it’s really cool!
I have one pair and thankfully they’re ok. I don’t understand the variation in quality.
@@suzyinstitches273what's to understand? They started off selling OK leggings then slowly cut back on quality to save money like all companies.
Omg same!!! But it was that paparazzi jewelry. I didn’t mean to click on it and then she kept saying my name. She was doing the same thing, asking what I wanted. I only got lucky that someone else joined and she turned her attention on them. I got out of that so fast. Realized the next day she unfriended me😂
Her loss lol.
I probably would have done the same including not being able to turn down Alice in Wonderland.
So, the owner was recruiting for gastric sleeve: if she brought 18 people down there, I’d think she’d get a cut for bringing so much business.
It broke my heart ♥️ when Courtney said to she felt ashamed cause she didn’t have a husband to bring. So she bought herself an expensive purse.
thats horrible how women are shamed for being single its bs!
Yep! "Ma Roe" is too much of a money-monger to not get a kickback from the surgeries. That was her side hustle.
@@oooh19 The woman in the video wasn't single, her husband couldn't come because he had another obligation. And she was even shamed for *that*. It's ridiculous
She absolutely was getting a cut. No one is that interested in helping someone get surgery unless it benefits them .
I cried when she hugged her Beautiful MaMa because being a MaMa hurts so much when you see your children hurting 😢😢😢I could feel the pain that they Both felt.
She was focused on how appalled she had been to get moldy clothes yet she still sold them to people anyways.
Mostly for money thinking she was gonna alot of cash from doing that..!!
She… washed them obviously..? At least one seller talking about mold.
There was another woman talking about how customers would complain about mold, and she’d accept them back with a refund. She doesn’t have to do that at all, she could have just scammed them and just told them to go cry about it.
Desperate times as the saying goes.
It's so baffling that people are still being drawn by LuLaRoe. Also, they're carefully crafting a perfect image on Instagram and still delete negative comments. I know how to avoid pyramid schemes #becauseoflularoe
I’m baffled why ANYONE is being drawn into ANY pyramid scheme at this point, google and UA-cam are freeeeeeee!
Cause we adults
I don’t think people are still drawn to lularoe anymore.
@@shannonsmith2642 Their instagram was still active the last time I checked and had very fervent supporters in the comments. Also they're still deleting negative comments.
@@eunicevillaneda-bolanos8474 id like to know who’s wearing this stuff. The goodwills are full of the clothes and pretty sure they aren’t being sold anymore.
I got in trouble with Mary Kay, because i was invited to a party, and they were trying to recruit me and after they explained it, i said out loud (i was 18), "this reminds me of when i get a letter in the mail with a buck in it and they ask me to send a buck to every name on the list and add my name and send it to people." I also said, "if i start selling it, i take customers from other sellers" and then they focused on recruiting and that was how you made your money and i said "yeah but eventually everyone will be recruited and nobody's gonna be buying"
Needless to say, I did not get recruited.
I used to process clothes at Goodwill and would always see LuLaRoe in barely used and new condition. The prints were always ugly and people barely bought them at the extremely discounted prices. I feel sorry for these women.
Lol true
Thanks for sharing this
Lol I got my only pair of LulaRo leggings from Goodwill. They were like $1 and of Frankenstein's monster. ... the best part about them is the placement of one of the monster's faces on a certain part of my anatomy. haha terrible clothing, but very funny.
The 2 I ever bought were at Goodwill and were solid color. I wore them as tights.
My heart goes out to all the beautiful women who were tricked into believing that this was a supportive sisterhood. I see you. LulaRoe took your desire to support your family, contribute to your community and be part of a group of strong women and used it against you. SHAME SHAME SHAME on them. May you have peace and the strength to start over and reach for your dreams. This was a hard lesson to learn but you will succeed at your dreams if you want to 🤗🤗🤗
♥️
💋💟🤗💌😘
I had two friends that joined this. From the start I honestly thought the clothes were hideous. I have a couple of items because I wanted to help their business. Lots of the patterns are pathetic. Whoever started this company has horrible taste and style.
This is one of the many reasons why it's important to uplift your friends, praise them for their achievements, and make sure they know you're there for them. When someone feels lost and alone, groups like this target them.
They need a hobby to help them out of these depressions.
Someone approached me once about selling that crap back in 2016. So I checked it out on the Better Business Bureau, I just don't see how these women were encouraged to check out the company with ratings like that before joining and still join them. Had they done that, so much pain and misery could have been avoided. Those monsters that took advantage of so many people deserve to be in prison for what they did.
Thats what I'm saying, why not ask questions or do your own research first instead of just jumping right in and believing everything these people tell you.
That’s my thing. I came across them as well and alarm bells sounded just from the pitch I heard. You can be a villain and a victim in your own demise, the whole cult approach they are taking screams a lack of accountability to me.
I know a lady that's related to the women who started the company, it's her aunt. She's really really sweet, but she was only used as a model one when it first started.
i think LLR really took advantage of preying on women who were vulnerable, isolated, not well-educated.
Nobody wants to do their research until AFTER they've been scammed.
“Full time pay for part time work.”
Why that wasn’t the first clue is head shaking. These women go from one MLM to another never learning. Clothing to makeup to skin care, all MLMs preying on the lonely & ignorant.
I hope there were Lularoe consultants who invested the money earned into REAL assets such as real estate, stocks, bonds, etc; as opposed to investing everything into more inventory and living a lavish lifestyle.
Nearly got roped into Mary Kay. My roommate had the rest of us in the apartment have a little makeup session with a company stylist (I don't wear makeup and so I just got a facial cleanser). Then they go around the room and everyone compliments each other on how good they look, and then product papers were passed around.
I started buying Mary Kay products from my roommate, but stopped within a year as it was getting too expensive for so little. She'd email me constantly about sales and things like that for a while.
It makes me upset she'd try to take advantage of me, and I'm pretty sure she didn't even like me at all, but a part of me wonders how much of it was her fault. Looking back, it's a whole mind game, and it's sick. Hope these kinds of scammers rot
It's so sad I really wish that these MLM companies could be The Sisterhood that they are without so much abuse involved. I can certainly see why this was appealing to many women especially stay-at-home moms.
Agreed. So cruel and predatory.
It's not nor has ever been appealing to me. I'm too busy homeschooling and doing everything I need to do around the house
@@SarahR2D2 a lot of women do it because they feel lonely and they want the friendships. Not because they’re not busy.
@@collyl629 I doubt that. Most of these mothers children are at school and they are SAHM
I am sure if we look back in history its happened many times over, tupperware? Avon?
$4,000 I just couldn’t imagine, ever being able to pay that much for a purse. When she brought it out it looks like any other bag that got use out of it. Don’t get me wrong, I take it as a gift-which would never happen! Blew my mind. My car is only $6000
Totally agree with you, but remember, it is all about perspective. When you're making that kind of money, 4k for a purse is nothing. I remember having a discussion with a coworker about when Kylie Jenner spent like 1 million on her daughters birthday (for a very small but lavish party) and my coworker couldn't fathom spending that much on a toddler's birthday. But, for Kylie, who probably makes that in 1 week, is pocket change.
When I used to work as a cashier at a supermarket, the idea of paying $30 for a pair of shoes or pants was outrageous to me. Now that I am a professional and have a pretty decent salary, I find those prices a steal. Another example, it was my son's birthday exactly a month ago, and we spent 2k on a birthday package at a nice kid's place that even included the food. We thought it was an absolutely great deal in you factor in the convenience of having someone else take care of the whole thing and we just had to show up, party and go home. One of my guests and friend liked the idea and asked me for more info, she was completely floored when I told her what we spent. She said she's never even had 2k together in her bank and couldn't even dream of spending that much money on a kid's party. So again, it is all about perspective. The more money you have, the more you spend and the less it hurts since you now have more purchasing power. However, that being said, there are things that even with the money I make now, or even if I have more, I still find a complete waste of money. For example, Birkin bags, they look so basic to me.
I paid less than that for a 2014 Kia. It’s in great shape and functions well. For me to pay that for something that will sit somewhere in my closet is ludicrous.
@@LolitaBonitaaa I think your comment is spot on. I remember when I was 18 and I saved $3,000 to buy my first car. I came from humble beginnings so that was a lot of money to me. My most recent car was about $30,000. 18 year old me making $8.00/hour couldn’t fathom buying such an “expensive” car. But, to someone in a higher tax bracket than me, $30,000 is nothing.
19:37 that right there is someone who makes poor financial decisions. Despite becoming a millionaire, she's broke. Color me shocked that someone who spends 4k on a fugly purse & 275 on cheap mystery metal fobs for it and 24:50 10k on a føøkin dinner ends up broke. Lmaooo
And remember she made that money by scamming other women into the cult!
Every generation has a few of these "businesses". I went through Herbalife and a few others. The end result was like so many others- broke, ashamed, embarrassed, and furious. It took me a year to REALLY take responsibility for involving myself in these businesses and see the flaws in ME that made it easy to jump into them.
It was tough to face myself but the payoff was self-respect. My heart goes out to these gals- tough journey 🙏
Deborah S good on you for taking responsibility for your own role…I feel like that’s so important & shows maturity! You will be just fine 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
My mom hosted Home Interior and Shaklee parties in the 80s.
I'm proud of you stranger!❤
Yes, every generation has stupid women that fall for scams.
M@nn@tech was nasty too. And my nasty neighbors across the street sold that crap, and were constantly trying to recruit people. They are long gone now. Maybe there is Mannat*** in Hell so they have to get rejected forever? LOL
And don't get me started on blue-green @lag@e, sold by a crooked preacher-slumlord I had to deal with. Scam-ola.
Whoever filmed the pan around shot of Lularoe with the portajohn in front should win some kind of award.
28:25! 😂 🏆🎥😂❤
If it looks like a pyramid scheme and acts like a pyramid scheme...it's most likely a pyramid scheme.
Every time.
A former professional acquaintance lost all my respect when she tried, repeatedly, to no avail, Pursue me into joining Rodent & Fields. Best way to alienate yourself from ppl.
lulalroe clothes are so ugly i can’t even believe this many people would agree to selling them. nonetheless it’s really shameful how this company and many other MLMs target women
These women knew nothing about fashion and got scammed. I wouldn't be caught dead in those hideous clothes.
Smh don’t hate
MLMs are heartbreaking, ive seen them so many times. Woman with low self esteem, addiction issues, or just plain desperate to have that "amazing" life on social media. They seem to target the vulnerable and naïve as well
I can’t help but feel bad for many of these women. They went into the business with goals, trust, excitement, reasons and a purpose. I don’t claim to know the background of any of these women, but with all due respect, they needed a purpose, to feel valued, to have a social outlet, make friends and bond with other like-minded women and yes, to help out the family income. And then to be left empty and many times with great losses. What a shame of a company.
And without any basic knowledge about economy.
There should be an organisation to help young women or housewives to get approved to open their small business that they dont need to fall to another MLM
Yes! That would be awesome. Myabe exists!
There are, there’s the Small Business Administration and each state has their own organization.
Why only women? Is it because we expect better from men?
There are legit sales companies like Mary Kay, where you there's multi-level but it's not an MLM where you keep buying inventory but get paid based on your recruits. I mean you can still make dumb business decisions in it, and it's still got that hype-hype, sell-sell feeling, but it is an actual business starting point. And it's not $5000 to start!!!!!
I wasn’t fooled by this company and high-priced leggings.
I found leggings that were just as comfortable, and way cuter at ROSS….
$4.99-$6.99!!!!
Ross is Gold
Don't you guys have Primark? Leggins are 3.50 euros.
I got a pair of leggings *with pockets*. I love them.
I got two pairs, my aunts neighbor was selling and I was shocked when I saw how her entire living room was filled, did not expect that much in a random suburban home. she was only selling the leggings for $3 each! trying to get rid of the inventory...they are very comfortable leggings, but the patterns are so bold I only really wear them inside the house or layering under my clothes
I was in Mary Kay for years. It was very much like this. I ended up in so much debt. The meetings and “sisterhood” were based on showing off perks and prizes and enticements of big money. It was really hard to get anywhere near directorship- you had to maintain your car and level if you did make it.
I loved Mary Kay products. I wish they would've just went mainstream and sold in stores
These poor women. Lularoe preyed on them psychologically and ruined them financially. I hope that LulaRoe faces consequences. It sounds like they could be held liable at least civilly, if not criminally. Also, those are truly some of the ugliest clothes that I have ever seen in my life. Like ever.
I've had so many friends get sucked into MLMs over the years. Mary Kay, Home Interiors, House of Lloyd, Primerica, Weekenders, Amway - really a lot of crap. It's natural to want to help your friends out, but these "businesses" are so predatory. Now it's Scentsy and those nail stickers. Just garbage products.
I’m pretty confident my aunt is in one but my mother has never wanted to confront my aunt about it. Even my aunts kids are sucked into being entrepreneurs with all the wrong intentions of achieving high income for a rich lifestyle. It’s truly sad
Another one that isn’t talked about it Herbalife. I learned this in my college class how these don’t actually help and keep your body in a weird bondage of losing and gaining weight.
Yes! Still to this day random people I haven't seen in like 10 years HEY GIRL! All sweet the kids are growing hope you're well ! Want to join_____.
No.
Oh girl it's not like ______ or _____
Yes it is. Bye.
My cousin did paparazzi jewelry. Thankfully she left!
I made the mistake of trying Mary Kay in my early twenties. The first week of joining my sponsor’s sister tried to force me to pay $400 to attend a conference in Vegas. I refused. Come to find out they had a competition going to see who could recruit the most people for their teams, to win a company trip to Puerta Villarta, Mexico. Thank God I had enough sense to stop returning their phone calls.
I’m so glad they showed the lure and motivation behind people wanting to join, because I once got an add for this and immediately thought it looked extortionist. I’m glad to hear their perspective.
So technically the commission they make is from their recruit buying “inventory”…What a joke of a company seriously!I feel so bad for all these women that were taking advantage of.
That’s how all mlm scams are. You never make bank from the product it’s always from the residuals you get from having people under you
I am sure no third parties ever bought
I am wondering if Courtney made so much money in the beginning why she did not pay off her house, I guess living in the lifestyle makes you think it won't end. I feel sorry for all of them
Plus being under constant pressure from her uplines to live her best life and show it would also be a reason why she didn't.
She said they were encouraged to re-invest while spending lavishly
Yea, they're pressured intensely to spend, not save, so they can be indebted to the company. Which is horrible business practice.
I had wondered that too! Was thinking well at least she had a paid off house but she didn’t I was stunned!
My understanding is she sold the house to pay off other debts like credit card debt (and maybe medical debt from her weight loss surgery).
I have no sympathy for Courtney. She comes across like the type of person that would screw someone over and cry tattoo tears if it happens to her. Karma doesn't care about your tears ma'am.
Exactly!
I couldn’t agree MORE...51,000 a month?!? Ohh yeah, she was complicit...😒
Yah and s he said she was feeling bag not having a husband so she bought the Louis Vuitton. Then says when she had the balloon mishap…she walked down her stairs and looked at her husband?? I’m confused.
@@ckj3210 I think she meant her husband wouldn’t go with her so she brought a bag instead
She lied about the order of the texts too
All sales feel like begging to me. I know it’s a trade, it’s a profession, but I would rather wash floors than do sales.
They were never your friends girl. It's a blessing actually because you don't need people like that in your life. Keep your chin up hun ❤️
One of my coworkers was doing this....wow! She even had to move back home after expressing how badly she wanted to move out. My mind is blown that this is a scam.
In North America, we tend to identify personally with our work, our job, and almost always consider co-workers, bosses our friends...We need to correct that!!! Co workers, bosses are not our friends, although stories are real where bosses will help pay a mortgage etc to keep an employee afloat. Bosses here will often say their workers are family. I do know during this pandemic, some restaurant owners have paid, out of pocket, their employees, while closed, before the benefits came out. There still needs to be a distance, a professional distance. I don't think that will happen.
Agree. When I first started working, my father told me to never think of your boss as your friend. I've learned over the years how very true that is!
I spend too much of my life with my coworkers to not consider them friends. Some are closer than others and some are just professionally courteous relationships, but we're talking 40 hours + a week here. I need some friendships or I'm going to be miserable, and I need to know my boss cares about me as a person not just as an output producer.
I took an accounting class in college and we did the books for a small clothing store. After seeing what goes in to a store, the expenses, inventory, etc. And how little the profit was, I swore never to go in to that biz. Same for antique stores. Just sayin’
When I see these clothes in the thrift store I Cry because I know someone lost money buying these clothes.😔
I almost always see an abundance at any thrift store I go to. From what my fellow online sellers have told me is that it’s harder and harder to resell as the quality got worse over time. I think that this company could have done really well, but they branched off way too fast and in the wrong way.
I read online that the crappy ones that rip easily usually say "Made in Vietnam" on the tag. While the better ones say "Made in China" I also personally experienced a brand new pair ripping right when I put them on. I was so confused because they weren't too small or anything. They were just super super thin I guess.
@@LynneMadison0731 I had a pair from their early production days and they were great. I bought them in a thrift store not really knowing about all the hype and I thought they were cute.I picked up a dress recently at the bins that was later made (probably when they expanded) and I definitely saw a that the sewing was kinda crappy. Just loose stitching and overall sloppiness.
I see them at thrift shops a lot.
People with narcissistic tendencies LOVE MLMs. It gives them attention (albeit fake) and they’re constantly trying to get big or get a quick buck without much effort. I don’t have social media anymore but the annoying and incessant stalking out of customers on those who sold Lularoe and other things like “IT WORKS” was sickening. These people also prey on stay at home moms that are lonely and spend too much time on Facebook 🤣. AND their posts are ALWAYS the same bingo terms they think are so cool. Things that come to mind are “sisterhood, girl boss, be your own boss, part time work for full time pay” 🤮🤮 It blows my mind that anyone would fall for such a scheme. It just takes a quick google to find out it’s a horrible “business” idea.
Oommmggg yes! There is this girl that I know that hops from mom to mom and you can tell she's so full of herself..the scary part is she has a big following because she's super church goer and it's scary with some of the shit she talks about
@@jav7899 What does MLM stand for please?
@@Valen_Wolf multi-level marketing. Basically it's a pyramid scheme.
All they are is just mean girls that peaked in high school. Roberta is nasty to people on TikTok when they point out how stupid she was for falling for all of it and being a predator for the company herself. She's so toxic I had to block her.
Exactly. And I'm sure they all were warned about it and they dismissed those concerns because they're special and they're going to make it. It's hard to have much sympathy.
This is the story Vice aired like two years ago. It’s in the recommended videos under this video.
It’s still good for vice to share this on refinery, the more women who know about these slimy schemes the better
i believe refinery29 is owned by vice which is why it’s on this channel too
Scrolling through the comments i guess im the only male watching this lol..but this is fascinating.
Sadly, me too😂
No sympathy for people who were greedy; making $50,00 a month and then stating "we were told we had to live a lavish lifestyle" do not make a lot of sense to me. You are 35+ years old and being led astray, with all of life's experiences under your belt and doubt in your mind, sis you are going to have to take the blame for that decision. I do not see victims here, aside from not being able to return damaged goods. Y'all made a lot, spent even more and now you have to deal with those bad financial decisions. It's not harsh, just reality of how finances work!
I seriously don't understand how these women didn't put any percentage of their paychecks away. They're grown adults and they didnt think to save anything?
That’s what I don’t get either. Nobody can fprce me to do ANYTHING. If I made the money I do whatever I want, and since I have a brain I’d put most of it aside. I honestly don’t understand the choices these women made 🤦🏾♀️
And remember, she made that money by scamming others below her
This is true. But this company gaslighted like crazy. Yes these women made bad financial decisions and lived highly above their means. But when you're made to feel bad over and over again about the way you look, about not living the high life, about not hitting your quota, you start to believe it yourself. And you do anything to revoke those feelings even at your own personal cost. Its like that first woman said, the rush of dopamine is addicting. And the head honcho lady looks way too much like these women in my, almost cult like, old church. A soft spoken, seemingly kind person who says she wants only the best for you. But she does it in stages. `oh' you're doing so amazing. Oh you're a rock star! Oh you're not selling as great as last month. Remember how great that felt? Dont you want to feel like that all the time? Oh. You need a gastric sleeve. It will be so much healthier for you.and I only want the best for you. Oh why havent you scheduled your surgery yet? Why are you sabbotging your own health? How could you do that to yourself? Eventually all that talk becomes your reality. That's how cults a d gaslighting works. Its easy to stand on the outside and see the wrongness of it, but when you're in the middle of it,even when you know its wrong and crooked, you feel like you can't leave or are too ashamed too. The main point of this extra long post is to please not call these women out for thinking like this
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She needs to sell that overpriced Louis Vuitton and other stuff she bought.
She won't get much for that ugly bag nor those clothes.
The bag is so ugly
That's what I was thinking. If she sell that LV bag & other expensive things she got laying around the house, she would have enough money to pay off her home or at least be able to keep it for awhile longer. She's going to need therapy after this
I’ve heard that the resale value of luxury bags isn’t very high. But, that topic is above my tax bracket so I don’t know lol.
I have that bag it doesn’t cost $4000
If you make $50k a month and aren't putting at least 10% of that away into a savings... you really are a 🤡
Facts
Agreed
She could have banked 80% ($40k). Anyone who can’t “manage” on $10k per month has completely lost touch with reality.
Or paying any taxes at allll.... 🤡🤡🤡
Exactly!!! It’s like winning the lottery. If you aren’t smart enough to save and grab what ypu can than you deserve whatever heartache you get
This is the fourth time I’ve watched this doc. I have no business or connection to Lularoe.
I just love the realness of these women.
Very well done!