Interesting that all those changes are how we’ve been getting our H16s in Australia for a couple of decades! The rest of the world has just finally caught up with us 😂. The jib traveller works beautifully and so much less clutter.
@@JoyriderTV I did break one about 7 years ago. It was the sliding part inside the beam that broke, it was about 10+ years old at the time. We were on our way to start a distance race and a 35-40 knot squall came through. We had a pretty violent pitchpole and when we righted the boat we noticed it had broken. Luckily we had a spare back in the trailer. Never had to replace another even after the flogging I’ve given Sledder over the years
That's funny that the NGS rudder is just the original cast setup again, but with the updated gudgeon. Only had to wait 60 years to be back on top of it.
Not 100% sold on the new jib traveller either when I saw it last month. The mast rethink looks excellent and the best of the upgrades. Not that I've noticed the old system on my Hobie 16 being a problem. Everyone gets off a Hobie with grin. Just a great boat.
Regarding the jib halyard, I'm used to tighten it (not at maximum) when I'm on the ground; to prevent the mast from moving to much when it's windy. I believe it put less stress on the other cables.
Last year I purchased my first Hobie 16, a 2010 USA model. Most of the changes, other than the comptip mast, were standard on this boat from 13 years ago. Tiller arms are straight, jib cars are the same as the NGS, Aussie jib halyard with no fairlead, etc. Are the North American rules different from the rest of the world?
@@Stagliaf Which isn’t always a bad thing. Especially when you come in at min crew weight. Could not race with all aluminum mast in a class race in the US, so not really a disadvantage.
Who makes the sails? It’s amazing to me that they still make the hobie 16 i love the boat but new 16 footers designs are so much better. What’s the story behind that?
It's (I think) one of the things that's keeping the class strong - that all of the boats from now back to the 70s are effectively the same. When classes have made upgrades to sail shape etc it's diluted the fleet and numbers start dropping in competition.
Interesting that all those changes are how we’ve been getting our H16s in Australia for a couple of decades! The rest of the world has just finally caught up with us 😂. The jib traveller works beautifully and so much less clutter.
Ha! Yes, the Aussies are certainly leading the way.
I thought that the jib car looks, like you say, very clean - did you ever break one?
@@JoyriderTV I did break one about 7 years ago. It was the sliding part inside the beam that broke, it was about 10+ years old at the time. We were on our way to start a distance race and a 35-40 knot squall came through. We had a pretty violent pitchpole and when we righted the boat we noticed it had broken. Luckily we had a spare back in the trailer. Never had to replace another even after the flogging I’ve given Sledder over the years
@@davidchester8882 thanks for the reply. Good to know.
That's funny that the NGS rudder is just the original cast setup again, but with the updated gudgeon. Only had to wait 60 years to be back on top of it.
Ha!! Yes.
Man I miss my Hobie 16!!
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thanks for the heads up.
You bet
Not 100% sold on the new jib traveller either when I saw it last month. The mast rethink looks excellent and the best of the upgrades. Not that I've noticed the old system on my Hobie 16 being a problem. Everyone gets off a Hobie with grin. Just a great boat.
Yeah, we've now broken our first one - probably more going to fail.
Regarding the jib halyard, I'm used to tighten it (not at maximum) when I'm on the ground; to prevent the mast from moving to much when it's windy. I believe it put less stress on the other cables.
Yes, that will certainly help to prevent that shock loading on the whole rig.
I am interested in making replacement hulls for the 16. How awesome to have a carbon fiber H16?
Oh yes! That would certainly cook - along with a carbon mast?
Last year I purchased my first Hobie 16, a 2010 USA model. Most of the changes, other than the comptip mast, were standard on this boat from 13 years ago. Tiller arms are straight, jib cars are the same as the NGS, Aussie jib halyard with no fairlead, etc. Are the North American rules different from the rest of the world?
The new boat is a combination of what Hobie felt were the best features from all of the previous regional differences.
2005 US Hobie 16 had the same newer mast tang, with comptip mast.
Good stuff Joe.
Do you know what year the NGS became standard? Was it first last year? 2022?
I think the first showing was last year's Worlds.
Surprised about the comp tip, especially in US! Were they a weak point with breakages??
Comp tip flexes more in high winds and spills wind so less power and speed.
I would guess that to have one standard boat, the single aluminium extrusion is cheaper to produce.
If you have an older boat in the US, it’s all aluminum anyway.
@@Stagliaf Which isn’t always a bad thing. Especially when you come in at min crew weight. Could not race with all aluminum mast in a class race in the US, so not really a disadvantage.
Who makes the sails? It’s amazing to me that they still make the hobie 16 i love the boat but new 16 footers designs are so much better. What’s the story behind that?
It's (I think) one of the things that's keeping the class strong - that all of the boats from now back to the 70s are effectively the same. When classes have made upgrades to sail shape etc it's diluted the fleet and numbers start dropping in competition.
Old hulls are heavier.@@JoyriderTV
No double pig tail
I was also surprised.
Evolution on action with the switch the metric!
It's fine by me!!! No need to change my drill bits.
What's the standard for new Hobie sails in cloth weight?
I believe it's 300g cloth.
Looks like some good changes and some meh stuff
For sure.
Everyone will know when we break our first jib car!