I'll be darned I didn't think a 17j watch qualified as RR grade as late as the early 1900's so I checked the PW Database and improved my education. Thanks for helping me to see the error of my ignorance.
@@ASWCo09 Which 15j Hampden qualified as RR grade? Was that a local designation or a general use as RR grade? I recall at one time there were a number of different standards.
Beautiful work and so informative. I'm just getting started and buying hopeless wrecks to analize. Such tools you have!!! Hahahahah. Thanks from Thailand Paul
Just found your channel. Your work is amazing sir! I am amazed by all the special tools. The watch itself, mechanical art! Thanks for sharing your video!
The Elgin 3-finger bridge is possibly my favorite movement for looks, and I have several examples in my collection - including a "Convertible" model from 1891. I always get drawn in to these videos showing the Elgin 3-finger movement. Very well done!
Stunning movement. Outstanding watchmaking workmanship. Some interesting movement features, such as the one piece, three-fingered train bridge and the circular yoke. The pallet fork almost looks like it came from a co-axial escapement. What is the function of the third arm between the entry and the exit jewels?
I have my great grandfathers Elgin pocket watch from 1876 I actually found the original sales receipt scanned online it’s a pretty cool little watch. Would you be willing to restore it for me?
Saw this movement on eBay after watching your video. It's so pretty, I picked it up. I'm looking forward to trying to restore this bad boy. On a different note, where do you get your pocketwatch cases from? I'm always on the prowl for a good looking watch case.
Go for it! Just take your time, and read lots. It's very rewarding. I get my movements from Ebay. Just search for a case that will fit whatever size watch you have. Good luck!
Hahah! It's a marker, so that it's easier for me to know where the center of the frame is when I film and thus I don't place the movement out of the view of the camera. But I never thought of the subliminal aspect! Good point!
I got recently a Elgin B W Raymond that was in bad condition broken balance shaft missing impulse jewel broken mainspring and a glass that was glued on . What a mess .
Hello there. Well, I do have a matching balance wheel which I may use to replace the original. Problem is that I would like to keep all matching numbers, especially on rare watches. The problem with this wheel is the type of warp. The rim of the wheel seems to be bent inwards at one point. That is something that's very hard to fix. The wheel is also in a very bad shape overall. Chunks of brass missing and chipped off etc... This watch had a very hard life. I'm waiting for a new balance staff, so that I can replace the wheel with the one I have in reserve. We'll see what happens. Cheers!
@@grumpyswatchrestorations That will be interesting ... mainly to see what level of accuracy might be possible. After all you will always have the original even if kept with rather than in the watch? It was an enjoyable story.
Hi Nicolas, thanks! They pop up on ebay from time to time. Just search for "german watch makers adjustable movement holder", or something like that. They pop up from time to time. Good luck!
Thank you for making this video. I would like to get into watch modifications and eventually gradually start Watch service and restorations. Do you have any directions as to what are some things I can be doing? So far I have bought basic tools more geared for modding from DIY watch club using a NH35 movement. (I successfully changed the date wheel, hands,and dial to aftermarket seiko parts not given by the company) I’ve read practicing on a pocket watch works well being that the parts are bigger and easier to work with. I also want to try and disassemble and reassemble the movement. Any advise on good books, schools or things that has best served you in the past to help build your skills. Thank you in advance! 😁
Hi Skyler and thanks for the kind words. Starting out with basic tools is the way to go. You want to "wet your feet" first and see if this is for you before you heavily invest in tools. Starting out with simple Seiko mods is also a very good way to get into it. In fact, that's what I used to do. Started out building custom Seikos but that got old really quickly. I've always had a love for pocket watches due to their individual history and the era they represent. As you correctly point out, pocket watches are a great place to start due to their larger size and then you can progress forward to wrist watches if that's your thing. My advice would be to pick up some books by Fried and buy a couple broken movements on Ebay. Take them apart and reassemble a few times. This will teach you the basics of movement construction, the placement of different parts and parts groups and you'll also hone your screwdriver and tweezers skills. Since the movements are broken anyway, you have nothing to lose:) From there you can progress and buy working movements, take them apart, put them back together and see if they're at least working. This way you'll build up confidence to do more advanced repairs. And of course there are tons of YT channels which demonstrate various types of watch repair and restorations. Good luck!
I love that large digital clock you have on the bench.
Thanks Bob! They're on amazon. Search for EAAGD Electronic LED Digital Alarm Clock. Cheers!
I'll be darned I didn't think a 17j watch qualified as RR grade as late as the early 1900's so I checked the PW Database and improved my education. Thanks for helping me to see the error of my ignorance.
Some 15 jewels even qualified for service, I have a Hampden that qualifies for RR service with only 15 jewels.
@@ASWCo09 Which 15j Hampden qualified as RR grade? Was that a local designation or a general use as RR grade? I recall at one time there were a number of different standards.
@@dale4034 Grade 36, I'm not to sure but it appears to be an early watch that qualified and probably was later disqualified, it dates to 1887
Beautiful work and so informative. I'm just getting started and buying hopeless wrecks to analize. Such tools you have!!! Hahahahah. Thanks from Thailand Paul
Thanks! That's the best way to learn. Disassemble, start with small repairs and slowly acquire tools. All the best!
That final measure is pretty darn good for a 100+ yr old watch. Can't complain with that. Great job!
Thanks Robert! Frustrating at times, but worth it in the end :)
I waited sooo long for an episode!!!! Great job! Stay awesome!
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words!
I like that you did a good job of restoring the pocket watch👍👍👍beautiful and clean looking awesome work
Great video, and thanks for the shout-out! Lovely watch. Too bad it was hurt so bad, but you did a great job bringing it back around.
Hey thanks! Yea, I came up with an alternative to fix this. Just waiting for yet another balance staff. It never ends...
@@grumpyswatchrestorations Haha yes, I feel you.
Just found your channel.
Your work is amazing sir!
I am amazed by all the special tools.
The watch itself, mechanical art!
Thanks for sharing your video!
Such a nice watch, great video as always
Thanks Dinis! :)
The Elgin 3-finger bridge is possibly my favorite movement for looks, and I have several examples in my collection - including a "Convertible" model from 1891. I always get drawn in to these videos showing the Elgin 3-finger movement. Very well done!
Thanks Jon. Just today I took possession of yet another 280 in excellent condition. I'll make a video of its service. Cheers!
Excellent video, thanks for sharing!
Beautiful job!
Stunning movement. Outstanding watchmaking workmanship. Some interesting movement features, such as the one piece, three-fingered train bridge and the circular yoke. The pallet fork almost looks like it came from a co-axial escapement. What is the function of the third arm between the entry and the exit jewels?
It’s the security pin guard. In case of chocks. Beautiful imo.
inspiring video. Look forward to more from someone with your skill and detail. Thanks.
Thank you so much! Very much appreciate your comments. Cheers!
I have my great grandfathers Elgin pocket watch from 1876 I actually found the original sales receipt scanned online it’s a pretty cool little watch. Would you be willing to restore it for me?
Hi there! At the moment, I am not working on viewer's watches due to some major time constraints. This may change in the future however! :) Cheers.
@@grumpyswatchrestorations I’m pretty sure all it needs is a new dial, a new set of hands and a bezel glass
Gorgeous watch
Saw this movement on eBay after watching your video. It's so pretty, I picked it up. I'm looking forward to trying to restore this bad boy.
On a different note, where do you get your pocketwatch cases from? I'm always on the prowl for a good looking watch case.
Go for it! Just take your time, and read lots. It's very rewarding. I get my movements from Ebay. Just search for a case that will fit whatever size watch you have. Good luck!
I love your subliminal messaging! The thumbs up logo on the table as you work. Nice.
Hahah! It's a marker, so that it's easier for me to know where the center of the frame is when I film and thus I don't place the movement out of the view of the camera. But I never thought of the subliminal aspect! Good point!
I got recently a Elgin B W Raymond that was in bad condition broken balance shaft missing impulse jewel broken mainspring and a glass that was glued on . What a mess .
essed. First guy I've seen in these vids to line up the second hand to "60" when installing it.
can anything more be done with the balance wheel?
Hello there. Well, I do have a matching balance wheel which I may use to replace the original. Problem is that I would like to keep all matching numbers, especially on rare watches. The problem with this wheel is the type of warp. The rim of the wheel seems to be bent inwards at one point. That is something that's very hard to fix. The wheel is also in a very bad shape overall. Chunks of brass missing and chipped off etc... This watch had a very hard life. I'm waiting for a new balance staff, so that I can replace the wheel with the one I have in reserve. We'll see what happens. Cheers!
@@grumpyswatchrestorations That will be interesting ... mainly to see what level of accuracy might be possible. After all you will always have the original even if kept with rather than in the watch? It was an enjoyable story.
Hi there great work what is the make of your movement holder please ?
Amazing channel, found it by chance, liked and subscribed, looking forward to educating me.
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words. More videos coming soon :) Cheers!
Gold wheels ? what carrot ?
Gold used in old American pocket watch movements was usually low grade 10K and unfinished. Still gold! :)
Great video as always. May I ask where you got your parts tray?
Thanks! They are readily available on Ebay. Just search for a large watch parts tray. Cheers.
Great work!!! Where did you get that movement holder? Ty
Hi Nicolas, thanks! They pop up on ebay from time to time. Just search for "german watch makers adjustable movement holder", or something like that. They pop up from time to time. Good luck!
where did you find that super cool movement holder?
They pop up on ebay from time to time. Search for spring adjustable german movement holder. Good luck!
How long do you soak your dials to make hairline cracks disappear?
I usually leave them overnight, but it does not make them disappear. It reduces them, but under close inspection one can still see them.
Thank you for making this video.
I would like to get into watch modifications and eventually gradually start Watch service and restorations.
Do you have any directions as to what are some things I can be doing? So far I have bought basic tools more geared for modding from DIY watch club using a NH35 movement. (I successfully changed the date wheel, hands,and dial to aftermarket seiko parts not given by the company)
I’ve read practicing on a pocket watch works well being that the parts are bigger and easier to work with. I also want to try and disassemble and reassemble the movement.
Any advise on good books, schools or things that has best served you in the past to help build your skills. Thank you in advance! 😁
Hi Skyler and thanks for the kind words. Starting out with basic tools is the way to go. You want to "wet your feet" first and see if this is for you before you heavily invest in tools.
Starting out with simple Seiko mods is also a very good way to get into it. In fact, that's what I used to do. Started out building custom Seikos but that got old really quickly.
I've always had a love for pocket watches due to their individual history and the era they represent. As you correctly point out, pocket watches are a great place to start due to their larger size and then you can progress forward to wrist watches if that's your thing.
My advice would be to pick up some books by Fried and buy a couple broken movements on Ebay. Take them apart and reassemble a few times. This will teach you the basics of movement construction, the placement of different parts and parts groups and you'll also hone your screwdriver and tweezers skills. Since the movements are broken anyway, you have nothing to lose:)
From there you can progress and buy working movements, take them apart, put them back together and see if they're at least working.
This way you'll build up confidence to do more advanced repairs.
And of course there are tons of YT channels which demonstrate various types of watch repair and restorations.
Good luck!
It is pronounced el gin not the same as the drink