Here is the top 7 titles for second season of Marvel Studios What If…? on Disney+ 1. What If…? Loki join the Avengers instead of Thor 2. What If…. Odin adopted Gamora and Nebula instead of Thor and raising them in Asgard 3. What If…? The TVA adopted Natasha and Yelena to become hunters 4. What If…? Steve Rogers become Captain Marvel in the WW2 and joining the battle of the Kree-Skrull War 5. What If…? Jane Van Dyne wasn’t stuck in the Quantum Realm instead of her husband Hank Pym 6. What If…? Michelle “MJ” Jones got bit by the spider instead of Peter Parker and become Spider-Woman 7. What If…? Carol Danvers join the Nova Corp and team-up the Guardians
This would be a great "What if" episode. Thor conquers the frost giants, finds out Loki is a frost giant and kills him too. Odin forms stormbreaker, father and son battle it out, Odin fails and Thor kills him and takes stormbreaker. Thor is now ruler of 9 realms. Seems a bit dark but would make a great episode on WHAT IF
Like some one else said it’d probably be Beta Ray Bill, especially since stormbreaker is his hammer in the comics. He was also chosen by Odin in the comics. He was also replaced by Thor in the “planet hulk” portion of Thor ragnarok.
Maybe Stormbreaker was made for Thor to use to kill his sister, Hela, when she inevitably came back. Though with the events that happened, Odin didn't have enough time to prepare his sons at all and just left them to figure something out their own way. Notice how Mjolnir had no effect on her, especially since it was originally her weapon, this is why Stormbreaker was made especially for Thor (to use against the God of Death, Hela). Also explains why Stormbreaker was immediately called to Thor's hand once it was fully forged.
Thor stated he is 1,500 years old in Ragnarok...how in the hell Odin didn't have time to tell him about his big sister Hela?...it took 5 minutes to tell Thor and Loki about Hela in Ragnarok..smh..
I think it had no effect because since she too has wielded that weapon B4, she just put her hand up like she’s catching it and crushes it to pieces but then again wtf, does that mean she is worthy? And if I’m wrong and she isn’t, then she at least used to be? Who makes the worthy rules for mjolnir, Odin and however he feels that’ day? A little confusing
@@howardwilliams8181 I was thinking that too. I don’t think Odin spent too too long on Earth 🌎, so wtf was he waiting for on preparing Them for Hela? I’m sure Odin knew his time was coming.
The enchantment was just a way to punish thor Thor infront of hela is nothing In term of trouble that odin got And even for loki Thor was a spoil silver spoon kid Loki had acceptance issues Hela was another case on a different level And thor and loki was suppose to be 1.5k yrs old They were supposed to be like in their early 20s While hela is a full grown up She battle along side her father and has full experience The thing is odin cast two spell One on thor and one on Mjölnir The first one is to weaken thor to make him mortal so that he doesn't become a threat for midgardians The second one is on Mjölnir To seal it Thor has it's powers in him The hammer actually has an entity that reside in it having storm powers Which also helps thor channeling his lighting powers It's just that odin maked thor believe that Mjölnir was the source of his power When it isn't
@@ezzatcasim7639 no her powers are way more powerful in asgard However she is still a force to be reckon outside it Did you forget that she killed all the valkiries aside of 1 that survived She was not in asgard She was in one of the 12 realms The dark one She also crush thor and loki Before she even return to asgard This already showed the massive difference between the two other norse god
Odin literally took away all of Thor's powers with just a few words in the first Thor movie. I don't think he ever thought he needed to build a weapon to kill him
In first thor all thor powers were in the hammer , now he has his own powers , still odin could stop him but in the future thor is supposed to be much stronger than thor so...
@@razvan3382 According to the Ragnarok movie, Thor's powers never were in the hammer, he only mistakenly believed they were. Thor himself was always the source of those powers. Odin probably made him believe otherwise so that he could better control him.
@@proximashining776 not sure. Other wise he wouldn't have been killed so easily. His powers wouldn't allow him to be killed by awesome bitch smack from a robot. I believe his powers were stripped. Also he couldn't lift the hammer or summon it. Thor did not know/ think he couldn't control the hammer at that point.
I suspect Odin was only able to do that while he was still the Allfather wielding the power of King of Asgard. If Thor had been crowned king and Allfather, Odin could no longer wield the power of Asgard against Thor. Only a king of Asgard has the power to strip power and exile Asgardians.
@@judeforartssake In Endgame Thanos didn’t hold back against anyone like he did in IW, and Thor was also out of physical plus mental condition against Thanos in Endgame.
It could have also been a contingency plan for Hela too, not just Thor. Hela would have been released when Odin died. He might have commissioned the creation of Storm Breaker to defeat Hela if she became a threat. A plan where you wouldn't have to destroy Asgard. Lol.
@@HisameArtwork Not necessarily. While Odin was still alive, he was able to prevent her from gaining power from Asgard. It wasn’t until his death that she was able to escape Hel and start drawing power from Asgard.
@@HisameArtwork I think chopping off her head could have taken care of that even without the need to destroy Asgard. Even a god cannot survive such a wound. Of course, someone would have to be powerful enough to take her head in the first place.
I think the right person who should possess Stormbreaker as a contingency plan to take out Thor has to be Beta Ray Bill. If Thor's lust for battle threatens the universe, Beta Ray Bill will have to be the one to fight him.
And take the throne bc beta ray bill is supposed to be a good at heart warrior, so totally plausible and with him making a live action appearance we might ge that explanation, going deeper into thor's mythos.
This was my thought and why I looked in comments. If Odin had met Bataray in the past. Had Trusted him with the use of Mjlinior , Bill has the chance to leave but returns it ( Has an adventure on Sakar why his "Thor Powered Self" is pictured on the tower. So Odin had stormbreaker made for him should he need it for any reason. He would have someone he could trust with that power.
I agree with you because in Marvel Comics stormbreaker was originally made for Beta Ray Bill because Thor needed mjolnir so the best way to help Beta Ray Bill without giving mjolnir permanently or temporarily is to make another weapon which was none other than stormbreaker so your comment is different from comics but I agree with you because it makes sense. Also beta Ray Bill is the right person to possess stormbreaker because he is worthy. Speaking of worthy stormbreaker does have a worthiness enchantment in Marvel Comics. Love the way what you say makes sense. Nice to meet you. Also Your comment felt different because you say Beta Ray Bill would help in the contingency plan but in Comics he was just trying to survive and protect his people. Beta Ray Bill in comic book was not involved in contingency plan because he never knew about Odin before meeting and fighting Thor
I mean it makes sense. Storm - “breaker”. Thor is the God of Thunder and uses thunderstorms for more power. The weapon is literally built to, *break* the storm. Or maybe I’m high and this comment doesn’t matter.
Makes more sense this way. When a Storm stars it's commonly said there's a storm breaking. There for calling it storm breaker is just saying it helps Thor create and channel much bigger storm's
But this makes no sense. Odin literally can just strip him of his power. He literally did. Eitri also straight up said it was a coronation gift for Thor. Plus I doubt that Odin would end his own line. Considering his line are the most powerful asgardians and would greatly diminish Asgard’s power without one of them being alive
@@yoboyrob201 if its a full powered Odin vs thor Odin wouldn't be able to strip him of his powers. In fact he never stripped him from his powers it was just his hammer.
Well it would make sense to have a contingency plan for someone as powerful as Thor if he were to step out of line and any and all peaceful options for a resolution to the situation have been exhausted
@@greenpanda2475 well in the reference that's what the avengers are there for to stop one another just like batman said to superman when he tell Bruce "you was so busy making plan for us you didn't even bother making one for yourself" then Bruce reply" I have one it's call the justice league " so I think they do just fine along with some broken bones 😂😂 but he won't be easy
If a particular kingdom is using your community to build weapons, you're sure as hell going to build a weapon powerful enough to defend your community should that kingdom turn its back on you. Never give your buyer/patron all the leverage, even if the relationship is good.
We see Bor using the spear Gungnir in battle, so I propose that the weapon was commissioned by Bor for Odin to use, but it was never made because Bor died in battle and passed on the spear after Stormbreaker's cast was made but before the dwarves had a chance to forge the uru.
Nah I think Odin Protected the Dwarves and they got killed when he was in the Odin sleep when Loki Ruled. Odin had a fake infinity Gauntlet and possessed the space and reality stones and most likely knew where the time stone was as well. But the Power Stone, Mind Stone and Soul Stone he stopped seeking after learning the nature of the Soul Stone. He probably had Mjnoinor commission for sure though and probably gave that to Hela and took his Father's Spear again. He choose to live out his Final Years in Peace rather than War very smart honestly Asgard and his Family all died within 10 years from Thor - Thor Ragnarok so he is Partying in Valhalla 🎉🎉🎉👑
I like this idea! My only question is how did Thor know about the location and design of the weapon if it was built to be used against him? Perhaps Odin told This after he learned humility.
He knew where his weapon was built but never knew about Storm Breaker. He only went to Nidavellir for a new weapon because Dwarves were known to have crafted the weapons of the kings of Asgard.
@@anubhavpal5782 Thor always thought his power came from his hammer. When Odin made him feel like he wasn't worthy of wielding Mjolnir, He felt powerless. Thor just didn't know how to channel his power. Odin could very well strip him of his power, but he could then why didn't he strip Hela of her powers?
@@nihaljaiswal4869 same reason he felt powerless after losing mjolnir, of course he loved the hammer but it was his identity and what he believed to be source of his power which is why when he finally got them fr, he became op. Honestly, the theory makes sense all the way from the name itself "stormbreaker" to him not being told of his true power until odic felt Thor was truly humble, and another guy said beta ray Bill would be the one to wield stormbreaker which also makes sense.
Eh. I think it would have been made for Thor’s ascension to the throne. It would have been a symbol of his rule, like Odín’s staff. It wouldn’t have been crafted while Odín was still king of Asgard. Mjolnir was the weapon of a prince, stormbreaker is the weapon of a king.
A lot of what I've seen on here gave me doubts, but this one is a nearly perfect theory. I knew if I kept watching you would give me a good one. Great job brother. Oh, I only say nearly perfect because I believe Odin had faith in Thor up until he provoked the Frost Giants. Odin said he was a fool or blinded to the fact that Thor wasn't ready for the throne. If anything StormBreaker was a contingency for Hela or Surtur. Odin didn't mention it at the end of his life because he probably already knew Thanos had already been to visit Itri.
The dwarf said "it was fit for a King". What if this statement was looked at from a different perspective. Instead of being FIT for a King to use, it actually meant the weapon was Fit to kill a King.
The same thing happens in thor vs hulk animated movie, I am not sure about the comics but they should have kept it that way in the movies, it would have been more interesting.
Considering that the first Thor movie demonstrated Odin's ability to strip Thor of his powers, and the subsequent movies show how little understanding of his own powers, I fail to see why such a contingency would even need to exist. In my estimation, it's more reasonable to believe that the dwarves of Nidavellir crafted the mold to be ready to make a weapon to kill Odin and to give to the leader of a coup(who would become the new king of Asgard), should Odin ever turn back to his old ways.
I could see it more likely it was commissioned by Loki when it was posing at Odin. His pride and ego would lead him to thinking he deserves that weapon but he wasn't "Odin" long enough to see it's completion
I didn't know that stormbreaker amplified his power but that does explain the weird lighting that surrounds stormbreaker and not Mjölnir. if you don't understand this comment go look at 5:53 you can see lighting comes out of Mjölnir but the lighting from stormbreaker surrounds the axe head and almost looks like fire.
@@themandarin8289 well both heat and electricity are forms of pure energy. And I think that fire and lightning are the ionization of said energy and the surrounding particles sooo
It fills in blanks of Odin the All Father's story as a whole, making his charactor more complex in the MCU. It does make sense that Odin saw Hella 2.0 early on in Thor and realized he needs a way to put this one down so he went to Eitri. With how Loki is dealt with as a "son of Odin" it's reasonable to believe he has had that approach on all of his children (by blood and adopted) since locking Hella away knowing what could come to be once again.
The back up plan was the enchantment on his original weapon. Not worthy...can't use it. Stormbreaker is Thor's upgrade when he became king in defense of Hera. Now he has it and left his people with no crown or loyalties, and with that the potential to become a true tyrant.
I cant agree with this theory because Odin had always had the ability to take away Thor's power and did so in the 1st movie, so the hammer was unnecessary in order to deal with him.
Assuming that Odin’s choice of imprisonming of Hela instead of an execution was because despite her warmongering he just couldn’t bring himself to kill his own daughter it could potentially have been commissioned for Thor with the intention that he would use it to kill Hela, it would explain why he never told Thor about her since he didn’t want him to develop any brotherly attachment to the person he would have to kill. Alternatively, depending on whenever the commission was made it is possible that the axe was meant for Loki to kill Thor and take the throne if it ever come to this, he had the legitimacy to gather support, the training and up to the end of Thor’s first movie when he had a breakdown and decided to try his hand at genocide to alleviate the stress he was probably the most prepared for the throne between the two.
The fact that Odin stripped Thor of his power and banished him until he learned humility works against this hypothesis. Then there's the fact that Hela would only be bound as long as Odin was alive. I think that the dwarves had been working on Stormbreaker because they felt a craft masters' desire better their work.
It’s my opinion that Odin had storm breaker commissioned to use in his conquests with hela but his change of heart happened before he had it made, but kept the mold to use against hela if need be later on…
I have a question ? In the first movie, Thor's father, Odin, placed an enchantment on Mjolnir. But now that he is gone, who enchanted Stormbreaker with the ability to summon the Bifrost and the ability to enhance the user's powers. We know Stormbreaker is everything Mjolnir is but without the Worthyness enchantment and have a few extra features. So did odin enchant the axe's mould to transfer over to the Weapon once it has be casted ? Is that even posdible ?
Maybe after etrie was forced to make the gauntlet he started preping to make stormbreaker in response hoping that someone like Thor would come along to help him make it
This might be true because another UA-camr made a video about Thor Destroying the MCU and everything he said is coming true. Including the multiverse. and there’s one comic saying that Odin knows Thor is Extremely power like Universe destroyer and his scared that Thor turns on him and the 9 Realms so he does something using magic.and this was when Thor was growing up when Odin started to see how power Thor was getting.
Quite an interesting theory indeed! And I like it! Also, I remembered in the comics that there is a version of Thor that is the King of Asgard and seek out conquest. I don't remember which universe that is. If anyone remembered which one, please tell me.
My theory on that was it was a contingency plan for Hela, not for Thor. The plan was that when Odin died Hela was too strong for Mjolnir, so he needed a weapon that focused his strength instead of hindering it, but it happened sooner than Odin expected because of Loki sending him to earth powerless, making him age faster. Because of that, he didn’t have time for Thor to rise to his place on the throne and have the weapon made before Hela appeared.
Cool theory. But it was mentioned that the axe known as Stormbreaker is a Coronation Gift to the God of Thunder when he takes his place as The King of Asgard. If you see, Odin told thor that Mjolnir was a tool that will help thor focus his powers. But Stormbreaker was a tool to amplify his powers as a king. So if thor was so strong with Mjolnir, which helped thor focus his powers, imagine what Thor can acomplish through out the years with Stormbreaker ? And some might say that Mjolnir is the only thing that gives thor his powers despite watching Thor Ragnarok. Thor has lost his worthyness so many times in the comics, and has also lost his powers due to it. But that is psycological. The inscription on the hammes says "Whoever holds this hammer if he be worthy shall posses the power of Thor. So who ever holds the hammer will get the powers of The God of Thunder. So Thor can still use his powers with or without Mjolnir. Only those who are worthy can hold the hammer and obtain the power of thor. Idk why these people still exist !
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I think it makes more sense that Odin had the weapon designed for some potential threat but not made because such a threat had yet to manifest. I don’t think it had a specific purpose.
Odin was younger and possibly stronger when he imprisoned Hela. Odin probably realised that Thor would be too much for him, Odin, to handle without some extra help.
@@gerardrbain1972 younger but he trapped her using magic and his life force thats why hella was only able to come out after he died using magic to trap thor wont be a problem for odin
It's an interesting theory, but I don't think Odin would have killed Thor under any circumstance. Milnor was meant to channel and focus his power, storm breaker to amplify. So I think Odin commissioned the weapon for Thor whenever he mastered his abilities so that he could be the king he knew he could be
Eh it just doesn't make sense ... Well the power scale in The MCU is bad but Read this Odin without guniyr >>>>>> Thor with Mjölnir So why would odin even need a new weapon to take down thor Odin knows that thor powers are very weak compare to hela Even in thor 3 after all that thor went through He is still way weaker than hela Storm breaker would have been given to thor when he would be ready Mjölnir is actually a weapon that helps thor to master his powers But thor instead relied too much on it Thus in thor 3 He got in to a manner where he put himself in question when the hammer got destroy Storm breaker was a weapon kept in nidavellir till thor is ready The Axe wasn't even forged yet It was only prepared to So for me odin either prepared the axe since thousands of years or at the end of thor 2 He ordered elftri and the dwarf to make stormbreaker
Good in-universe way to explain the reason for Storm Breaker's name, though think it was really just an easter egg call out to the Storm Breaker in the comics. Does not stop us from making fun theories like this thought.
Love Thor's character arc because he has very tragic past and story. This guy lost his father, mother, brother, sister, his friend Heimdall and his people Asgardians. It does not get worse than that. Yet with every loss he comes back stronger and stronger. I also have obsession with lightning and electricity so I love his abilities and power.
I personally think Odin designed stormbreaker as a gift for Thor when he would rise to be king of Asgard his original hammer would eventually be passed on to say the next Prince or princess in the next generation. And Odin's speer would be laid to rest as it was a weapon of conquest. Order always said that a king must never seek out war but must always be ready for it. This is why I believe stormbreaker has an ax and a hammer for a king. Both can be used as weapons of war but preferably used as tools to build. I also believe that Odin only conquered the nine rounds because they were in such war and chaos with each other that if he had not stepped in they would likely be destruction all around, so in the world was over he laid down his arms but his daughter was not happy with that.
Stormbreaker was designed for Beta Ray Bill to be used to defend against evil . A symbol of hope for the oppress and future hero arise from chaos/calamity to bring aid for Asgard and the 9 realms if require assistance.
This makes perfect sense and I could see it being an in universe justification…but I really only think the creators put that name and axe in place because it existed in the comics under that name.
I think it's purpose is pretty much what you explained. As for why the mold was made, but not the weapon... how many times has asgard's vault been breached? Ya, not leaving a weapon like stormbreaker just LAYING about, thing is amped enough to stop someone using a fully assembled infinity gauntlet!
Maybe it was ordered by Odin to be forged as a last gift to Thor. Basically saying to the dwarves "when i die and my son ascends to the throne, forge that axe as his coronation gift."
I think it was a contengencie plan to kill Hela without destroying Asgard, but then Loki exiled Odin, he and Thor ends up in Sakaar because of Loki haste to call the Bifrost and give Hela direct access to the source of her power (Asgard itself) all that while Thanos was busy forcing Eitri to forge his gauntlet and decimating the dwarves so even if Odin would have mentionned Stormbreaker it would have been the long-running plan that they might not have the time and ressources to implement so they took plan B: Sultur/Ragnarok
I believe the Stormbreaker was more of a contingency plan for Hela, assuming that she would have returned before the time of Ragnarok, but then again; Friga had the power to see into the future, and she would have told Odin what she saw; Surter kicking Hela's a$$, maybe she couldn't have seen pass that event, still it don't make sense having a contingency plan for Thor, when Odin had full knowledge of who Hela was and her capabilities, the contingent plan for "Thor" is very arguable, Friga would have seen these things many times over the centuries, I believe it's a contingency plan for Kang
Devil in the details. It already had a name before it was forged so it makes sense there was no handle/hilt prepared for it, which is why Groot cut a limb to make it, saving Thor in the process as he claimed the weapon and lightning surged in his fingers. Nicely done.
Cool theory but no, the only reason they had the mold there ready to go was because it was meant to be a weapon specifically for Thor, that was fit for a king, but Thor had not yet truly become king of asgard until the end of infinity war, Thor was not meant to have Stormbreaker until he became king of asgard
Sounds like a viable option when Thor was not yet old enough or had not been through enough in life to know why war, vengeance, and pride are not becoming of a king or of a happy kingdom.
I need a WHAT IF....? episode where Thor DOES take the warmonger path like Hela did. Since it's a cartoon, they don't have to worry about the budget something like that would take, so I think it'd be the perfect chance to.
@@thomasrockbottom2907 I mean, Odin can't control the fate of the universe. But what he can control, especially on Asgard, has a purpose... or maybe he could and it was all part of the plan? Without fighting and dealing with Loki in Thor 1 and 2 and Avengers, and defeating Hela by Allowing Ragnarok to happen, Thor would never have had the anger and pain to withstand the strength of the star on Nedavellir in order to make Stormbreaker, which in turn eventually killed Thanos and saved half the universe
Interesting theory but I think storm breaker was a contingency weapon for any threat the potential king or ruler of Asgard had to face down the line. I would say it was never deployed because of the power it wielded and that was the ability to summon the bifrost. Storm breaker being able to summon bifrost not only makes it a god killer but also a planet destroyer as well. That would be a lot of responsibility for any one person thus it should only be used if needed.
It makes more sense if it was designed to kill Hela. Only Odin's life held her back. He commissioned it after Thor and Loki were born, but didn't need it so long as he was alive. Then, Loki enchants Odin toward the end of his life, so he's unable to have it built and ready for Thor when he dies. When Odin wields/wielded Gungnir, he's vastly more powerful than Thor. Thus, there's no need for another weapon. Unless it's for an even more powerful baddie, like Hela. There are also other commenters below who suggest it's for Hela and I agree.
It was made for his alien counterpart and friend called "Beta Ray Bill." Beta Ray Bill is one of the few who can lift Thor's hammer, in addition to Captain America. Beta Ray Bill wished to wield Mjolnir to aid him in his quest, but Odin said "Nay. Mjolnir belongs to Thor, but perhaps there is another way." He hired the Dwarves who crafted Mjolnir to forge another hammer with power identical to Thor's hammer: Stormbreaker was its name! Or maybe it's the new Female Thor's weapon.
The mold was probably made by order of odin so that if thor ever lost mjolnir he would have a weapon to kill hela if the need ever rose but odin never got to tell thor of it because of his death.
i think it was a contingency plan for hela in case she returned before odin's death because its was explained it was a weapon on legend in other words before thors time and maybe even odin's time
It is against Asgardian law to kill anyone in the royal family. Odin himself would have been banished. It's why Hela was imprisoned and not killed. When Loki brought Bor back to life and Thor killed him, Thor was banished and Balder became king.
Imagine if Stormbreaker was properly constructed, at a fully functioning Nidavellir properly maintained by the Dwarves, and with an actual, proper handle. It'd be even more powerful than what we see in Infinity War and Endgame.
I mean if it was Odin then I feel like it was for Hella not Thor. Based on the movies it seems like Odin felt his change of heart coming and knew he might have to put her down the permanent way but instead when he was able to seal her away he felt he no longer needed storm breaker.
It's strange" that "Stormbreaker" wasn't forged, and used against "Hela". But" that this could've been intended to be used against "Thor Odinson"? All Father Odin couldn't control Hela's insatiable thirst for conquest, and had to seal her away in a prison dimension. He didn't want to kill Hela if he didn't have to. But" could All Father Odin kill The Goddess Of Death!? (Probably NOT)! Not even with "Stormbreaker". But" having one child that can't be killed, not even with weapons from heaven" is a terrifying burden, should this child determine "WINNER TAKES ALL"!! And" it's natural to think All Father Odin wouldn't allow another of his children to become like "Hela" if he could prevent it before it happens. That Thor's power will eventually prove to be greater than his EGO, and will achieve anything he imagines" -is another TERRIFYING BURDEN!!😳😵
Stormbreaker was actually made for Beta Ray Bill as a reward because not only did he beat the shit out of Thor twice, but he took Thor's hammer from him (yes he was able to lift it) in the first fight, and saved his life in the second fight instead of letting him die in the fire pits. Then Stormbreaker was created and given to Beta Ray as a reward.
The last time we saw Thor, he was packing some serious power like we have not seen so far. The next time we see him in battle, it should be amazing and completely elemental.
Makes more sense for it to have been Odin's idea for a way to kill Hella when he eventually died and she broke out of prison, after all it's designed to kill immortal god's.
"The Stormbreaker" Hmmmm?😳🤨🧐🤔
It was made to kill Strom from the X men.....I just made that up. It was probably to kill Thor
What if it was commissioned to be able to kill Hela if she returned earlier?
Or perhaps just any God that gains too much power?
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Can you guys do a breakdown of Odin's powers?
Beta Ray Bill already has Stormbreaker in the Mcu and used it on Sakaar.
Thor becoming like Hela would be awesome to see in What If...?
@F.R.N. F ik
GREAT idea!
"what if Thor never met Jane Foster?"
He would he nigh unstoppable
Not with the original hammer. He would still need storm breaker
When Peter Dinklage said “in theory it could summon the bifrost” I got chills
In your Weenie!
So did I lol I rewinded it when I watched it online too
@@Cheeseyman maybe that’s why they call him Dinklage?
Same!
Well, if it is true.. it IS called *Storm* breaker. Thor is the god of thunder & can make lightning storms.. so.. there’s that.
I never thought about that before until I saw your comment.
That doesn’t make it true
No..
So much reaching nowadays.
@@wessidioussmoke5773 I know.. it’s just a theory.. a *random* theory.
@@Lion-O-Richie2040 I’m not saying it’s true. It’s just coincidental.
This would be a great "What if" episode. Thor conquers the frost giants, finds out Loki is a frost giant and kills him too. Odin forms stormbreaker, father and son battle it out, Odin fails and Thor kills him and takes stormbreaker. Thor is now ruler of 9 realms. Seems a bit dark but would make a great episode on WHAT IF
Like some one else said it’d probably be Beta Ray Bill, especially since stormbreaker is his hammer in the comics. He was also chosen by Odin in the comics. He was also replaced by Thor in the “planet hulk” portion of Thor ragnarok.
I honestly can't see movie Thor beating Odin
I’d love to see a more heroic Loki battling a villainous Thor
Honestly Thor 1 Thor would get smacked around by Thor 1 Odin. Odin was old but Thors significantly less powerful when his eyebrows are blonde.
Seems a bit shit. That’s the weakest reason for Odin to kill Thor. Also, Odin would stomp Thor, stop being ridiculous.
Maybe Stormbreaker was made for Thor to use to kill his sister, Hela, when she inevitably came back. Though with the events that happened, Odin didn't have enough time to prepare his sons at all and just left them to figure something out their own way. Notice how Mjolnir had no effect on her, especially since it was originally her weapon, this is why Stormbreaker was made especially for Thor (to use against the God of Death, Hela). Also explains why Stormbreaker was immediately called to Thor's hand once it was fully forged.
That seems logic
This makes more sense
Thor stated he is 1,500 years old in Ragnarok...how in the hell Odin didn't have time to tell him about his big sister Hela?...it took 5 minutes to tell Thor and Loki about Hela in Ragnarok..smh..
I think it had no effect because since she too has wielded that weapon B4, she just put her hand up like she’s catching it and crushes it to pieces but then again wtf, does that mean she is worthy? And if I’m wrong and she isn’t, then she at least used to be? Who makes the worthy rules for mjolnir, Odin and however he feels that’ day? A little confusing
@@howardwilliams8181 I was thinking that too. I don’t think Odin spent too too long on Earth 🌎, so wtf was he waiting for on preparing Them for Hela? I’m sure Odin knew his time was coming.
Hela is seen holding mjolnir. Stormbreaker may have been designed to kill Hela, but Odin found a way to trap her instead.
This makes more sense
@@Red1Green2Blue3 The worthiness enchantment Odin places on Mjolnir was to protect against a rogue Thor. We see him do this in the first Thor film.
The enchantment was just a way to punish thor
Thor infront of hela is nothing
In term of trouble that odin got
And even for loki
Thor was a spoil silver spoon kid
Loki had acceptance issues
Hela was another case on a different level
And thor and loki was suppose to be 1.5k yrs old
They were supposed to be like in their early 20s
While hela is a full grown up
She battle along side her father and has full experience
The thing is odin cast two spell
One on thor and one on Mjölnir
The first one is to weaken thor to make him mortal so that he doesn't become a threat for midgardians
The second one is on Mjölnir
To seal it
Thor has it's powers in him
The hammer actually has an entity that reside in it having storm powers
Which also helps thor channeling his lighting powers
It's just that odin maked thor believe that Mjölnir was the source of his power
When it isn't
Hela is only strong is shes in asgard.
@@ezzatcasim7639 no her powers are way more powerful in asgard
However she is still a force to be reckon outside it
Did you forget that she killed all the valkiries aside of 1 that survived
She was not in asgard
She was in one of the 12 realms
The dark one
She also crush thor and loki
Before she even return to asgard
This already showed the massive difference between the two other norse god
Odin literally took away all of Thor's powers with just a few words in the first Thor movie. I don't think he ever thought he needed to build a weapon to kill him
Maybe incase he died
In first thor all thor powers were in the hammer , now he has his own powers , still odin could stop him but in the future thor is supposed to be much stronger than thor so...
@@razvan3382 According to the Ragnarok movie, Thor's powers never were in the hammer, he only mistakenly believed they were. Thor himself was always the source of those powers. Odin probably made him believe otherwise so that he could better control him.
@@proximashining776 not sure. Other wise he wouldn't have been killed so easily. His powers wouldn't allow him to be killed by awesome bitch smack from a robot. I believe his powers were stripped. Also he couldn't lift the hammer or summon it. Thor did not know/ think he couldn't control the hammer at that point.
I suspect Odin was only able to do that while he was still the Allfather wielding the power of King of Asgard. If Thor had been crowned king and Allfather, Odin could no longer wield the power of Asgard against Thor. Only a king of Asgard has the power to strip power and exile Asgardians.
Thor yeeting stormbreaker at thanos is my favorite scene in all the mcu.
And then for some reason he can't do that again in Endgame, when Thanos has zero stones. 🤔
Yea man it's so good! It just takes on the full gauntlet blast and NAILS Thanos! So badass!!
But he didn't go for the head
@@judeforartssake In Endgame Thanos didn’t hold back against anyone like he did in IW, and Thor was also out of physical plus mental condition against Thanos in Endgame.
@@judeforartssake because he has mjolnr which is weakening him
It could have also been a contingency plan for Hela too, not just Thor. Hela would have been released when Odin died. He might have commissioned the creation of Storm Breaker to defeat Hela if she became a threat. A plan where you wouldn't have to destroy Asgard. Lol.
Well....destroying Asgard was always a part if the prophecy of Ragnarok. And Odin knew that the ragnarok is unavailable.
Yea it was prolly for HeLa. Commissioned for Thor to use against her when Odin died and she broke free from her prison
That's exactly what I was thinking, makes more sense to be for Hela.
i dont think storm breaker can kill hela, cause why not just craft it before and kill her?
I think Stormbreaker was likely a contingency against Hela rather than Thor.
it wouldn't kill her, only destroying asgard would...in the MCU anyway.
I said the same thing and a fully revived Surtur
@@HisameArtwork Not necessarily. While Odin was still alive, he was able to prevent her from gaining power from Asgard. It wasn’t until his death that she was able to escape Hel and start drawing power from Asgard.
@@HisameArtwork I think chopping off her head could have taken care of that even without the need to destroy Asgard. Even a god cannot survive such a wound. Of course, someone would have to be powerful enough to take her head in the first place.
now that sounds more plausible
I think the right person who should possess Stormbreaker as a contingency plan to take out Thor has to be Beta Ray Bill. If Thor's lust for battle threatens the universe, Beta Ray Bill will have to be the one to fight him.
That sounds like a great plotline, which could be complimented by the film theory about Thor bringing the destruction of everything.
And take the throne bc beta ray bill is supposed to be a good at heart warrior, so totally plausible and with him making a live action appearance we might ge that explanation, going deeper into thor's mythos.
This was my thought and why I looked in comments. If Odin had met Bataray in the past. Had Trusted him with the use of Mjlinior , Bill has the chance to leave but returns it ( Has an adventure on Sakar why his "Thor Powered Self" is pictured on the tower. So Odin had stormbreaker made for him should he need it for any reason. He would have someone he could trust with that power.
I agree with you because in Marvel Comics stormbreaker was originally made for Beta Ray Bill because Thor needed mjolnir so the best way to help Beta Ray Bill without giving mjolnir permanently or temporarily is to make another weapon which was none other than stormbreaker so your comment is different from comics but I agree with you because it makes sense. Also beta Ray Bill is the right person to possess stormbreaker because he is worthy. Speaking of worthy stormbreaker does have a worthiness enchantment in Marvel Comics.
Love the way what you say makes sense. Nice to meet you.
Also Your comment felt different because you say Beta Ray Bill would help in the contingency plan but in Comics he was just trying to survive and protect his people. Beta Ray Bill in comic book was not involved in contingency plan because he never knew about Odin before meeting and fighting Thor
I mean it makes sense. Storm - “breaker”.
Thor is the God of Thunder and uses thunderstorms for more power. The weapon is literally built to, *break* the storm.
Or maybe I’m high and this comment doesn’t matter.
I did wonder about the name Storm Breaker. Thought it was “a bit much.”
Am I also high and I approve this comment lmao
Makes more sense this way. When a Storm stars it's commonly said there's a storm breaking. There for calling it storm breaker is just saying it helps Thor create and channel much bigger storm's
But this makes no sense. Odin literally can just strip him of his power. He literally did. Eitri also straight up said it was a coronation gift for Thor. Plus I doubt that Odin would end his own line. Considering his line are the most powerful asgardians and would greatly diminish Asgard’s power without one of them being alive
Thor was always the God of thunder he always was meant for his powers to come
@@jasongarcia6877 im aware of that
@@yoboyrob201 if its a full powered Odin vs thor Odin wouldn't be able to strip him of his powers. In fact he never stripped him from his powers it was just his hammer.
Odin never stripped him of his power...Thor power grows by his worthiness THOR STRIPPED HIMSELF OF POWER BY BEING ARROGANT IF ANYTHING
lol...thor got stripped of his powers. that's why he basically died when backhanded by the destroyer in thor 1. he then got his powers back
Well it would make sense to have a contingency plan for someone as powerful as Thor if he were to step out of line and any and all peaceful options for a resolution to the situation have been exhausted
Batman was right
@@greenpanda2475 exactly and the Injustice games prove that
@@greenpanda2475 well in the reference that's what the avengers are there for to stop one another just like batman said to superman when he tell Bruce "you was so busy making plan for us you didn't even bother making one for yourself" then Bruce reply" I have one it's call the justice league " so I think they do just fine along with some broken bones 😂😂 but he won't be easy
If a particular kingdom is using your community to build weapons, you're sure as hell going to build a weapon powerful enough to defend your community should that kingdom turn its back on you. Never give your buyer/patron all the leverage, even if the relationship is good.
No it was supposed to be Thor's coronation gift as the king but was postponed due to the events of the MCU
Duh... You said it like it’s some jewel of wisdom. That’s common sense in business.
@@MostafaElKafrawy I don't know why I was expecting that to end with "due to covid." Lol
Something tells me you're from Soviet Russia. Lol
We see Bor using the spear Gungnir in battle, so I propose that the weapon was commissioned by Bor for Odin to use, but it was never made because Bor died in battle and passed on the spear after Stormbreaker's cast was made but before the dwarves had a chance to forge the uru.
Makes sense
Nah I think Odin Protected the Dwarves and they got killed when he was in the Odin sleep when Loki Ruled. Odin had a fake infinity Gauntlet and possessed the space and reality stones and most likely knew where the time stone was as well. But the Power Stone, Mind Stone and Soul Stone he stopped seeking after learning the nature of the Soul Stone. He probably had Mjnoinor commission for sure though and probably gave that to Hela and took his Father's Spear again. He choose to live out his Final Years in Peace rather than War very smart honestly Asgard and his Family all died within 10 years from Thor - Thor Ragnarok so he is Partying in Valhalla 🎉🎉🎉👑
I like this idea! My only question is how did Thor know about the location and design of the weapon if it was built to be used against him? Perhaps Odin told This after he learned humility.
He knew where his weapon was built but never knew about Storm Breaker. He only went to Nidavellir for a new weapon because Dwarves were known to have crafted the weapons of the kings of Asgard.
but Odin already has the capability of striping thor of his powers as was seen in the first thor movie
@@anubhavpal5782 Thor always thought his power came from his hammer. When Odin made him feel like he wasn't worthy of wielding Mjolnir, He felt powerless. Thor just didn't know how to channel his power. Odin could very well strip him of his power, but he could then why didn't he strip Hela of her powers?
@@nihaljaiswal4869 same reason he felt powerless after losing mjolnir, of course he loved the hammer but it was his identity and what he believed to be source of his power which is why when he finally got them fr, he became op. Honestly, the theory makes sense all the way from the name itself "stormbreaker" to him not being told of his true power until odic felt Thor was truly humble, and another guy said beta ray Bill would be the one to wield stormbreaker which also makes sense.
@@nihaljaiswal4869 about hela i don't know, she is the Goddess of death
Ironic, a literal god killer.
Did someone say gorr?
Did you hear the story about darth thor the wise?
@@TheRedPandalorian
No, why have I not heard of this?
Yes...that’s what....god killer means. 🤨
@@TheRedPandalorian have you heard the tragic of thor
Eh. I think it would have been made for Thor’s ascension to the throne. It would have been a symbol of his rule, like Odín’s staff. It wouldn’t have been crafted while Odín was still king of Asgard. Mjolnir was the weapon of a prince, stormbreaker is the weapon of a king.
A lot of what I've seen on here gave me doubts, but this one is a nearly perfect theory. I knew if I kept watching you would give me a good one. Great job brother. Oh, I only say nearly perfect because I believe Odin had faith in Thor up until he provoked the Frost Giants. Odin said he was a fool or blinded to the fact that Thor wasn't ready for the throne. If anything StormBreaker was a contingency for Hela or Surtur. Odin didn't mention it at the end of his life because he probably already knew Thanos had already been to visit Itri.
Ditto! Was there any other reason explained in the comics for the name that you know of?
Was that, "Powerful Asgardian Warrior" or, "Powerful-Ass Guardian Warrior?"
The dwarf said "it was fit for a King". What if this statement was looked at from a different perspective. Instead of being FIT for a King to use, it actually meant the weapon was Fit to kill a King.
No
Like "to serve man" is a cook book
@@nedflanders2943 a cook book on how to chop up a man and serve it to a panther.
Hela is Loki’s daughter in Norse mythology
Hel and hela are diffarent people in the mcu
Yes , but it was a pointless decision
The same thing happens in thor vs hulk animated movie, I am not sure about the comics but they should have kept it that way in the movies, it would have been more interesting.
he is also Odin's brother in Norse mythology.
We all know that
Considering that the first Thor movie demonstrated Odin's ability to strip Thor of his powers, and the subsequent movies show how little understanding of his own powers, I fail to see why such a contingency would even need to exist.
In my estimation, it's more reasonable to believe that the dwarves of Nidavellir crafted the mold to be ready to make a weapon to kill Odin and to give to the leader of a coup(who would become the new king of Asgard), should Odin ever turn back to his old ways.
I could see it more likely it was commissioned by Loki when it was posing at Odin. His pride and ego would lead him to thinking he deserves that weapon but he wasn't "Odin" long enough to see it's completion
Interesting theory except in Thor 1 Odin say's "I take from you your power" fight over
Odin can only take Mjolnir from Thor
Not his inherent capability to control lightening
Odin was full of dark magic and nothing can stand before him in battle, not Hela not thor
@@bullymaguire2061 Only Odin did take Thor's power. His strength, his lightning, his invulnerability, his stamina, everything..
I didn't know that stormbreaker amplified his power but that does explain the weird lighting that surrounds stormbreaker and not Mjölnir. if you don't understand this comment go look at 5:53 you can see lighting comes out of Mjölnir but the lighting from stormbreaker surrounds the axe head and almost looks like fire.
Blue fire
@@themandarin8289 that's what I originally thought but why would Thor have blue fire
@@gearjammer3200 yea because he uses lightning or maybe that blue fire is just his lightning powers going around in circle
@@themandarin8289 well both heat and electricity are forms of pure energy. And I think that fire and lightning are the ionization of said energy and the surrounding particles sooo
It fills in blanks of Odin the All Father's story as a whole, making his charactor more complex in the MCU. It does make sense that Odin saw Hella 2.0 early on in Thor and realized he needs a way to put this one down so he went to Eitri. With how Loki is dealt with as a "son of Odin" it's reasonable to believe he has had that approach on all of his children (by blood and adopted) since locking Hella away knowing what could come to be once again.
Imagine Thor and Hela conquering the universe together, literally would be unstoppable with Hela's experience and Thor's power
The back up plan was the enchantment on his original weapon. Not worthy...can't use it. Stormbreaker is Thor's upgrade when he became king in defense of Hera. Now he has it and left his people with no crown or loyalties, and with that the potential to become a true tyrant.
The big guy-Cull Obsidian-simply roars out of rage and frustration.
I cant agree with this theory because Odin had always had the ability to take away Thor's power and did so in the 1st movie, so the hammer was unnecessary in order to deal with him.
Thor's contingency plan is really, really good beer
Assuming that Odin’s choice of imprisonming of Hela instead of an execution was because despite her warmongering he just couldn’t bring himself to kill his own daughter it could potentially have been commissioned for Thor with the intention that he would use it to kill Hela, it would explain why he never told Thor about her since he didn’t want him to develop any brotherly attachment to the person he would have to kill.
Alternatively, depending on whenever the commission was made it is possible that the axe was meant for Loki to kill Thor and take the throne if it ever come to this, he had the legitimacy to gather support, the training and up to the end of Thor’s first movie when he had a breakdown and decided to try his hand at genocide to alleviate the stress he was probably the most prepared for the throne between the two.
Did you ever consider maybe Mjölnir as a training weapon to prepare Thor for wielding StormBreaker?
Thank you for saying that man.
The fact that Odin stripped Thor of his power and banished him until he learned humility works against this hypothesis. Then there's the fact that Hela would only be bound as long as Odin was alive.
I think that the dwarves had been working on Stormbreaker because they felt a craft masters' desire better their work.
This is one interesting fan theory. Great video my friend. You just got a subscriber.
It’s my opinion that Odin had storm breaker commissioned to use in his conquests with hela but his change of heart happened before he had it made, but kept the mold to use against hela if need be later on…
Now that is a great theory. Itri said it was ment for a king
I have a question ? In the first movie, Thor's father, Odin, placed an enchantment on Mjolnir. But now that he is gone, who enchanted Stormbreaker with the ability to summon the Bifrost and the ability to enhance the user's powers. We know Stormbreaker is everything Mjolnir is but without the Worthyness enchantment and have a few extra features. So did odin enchant the axe's mould to transfer over to the Weapon once it has be casted ? Is that even posdible ?
Maybe after etrie was forced to make the gauntlet he started preping to make stormbreaker in response hoping that someone like Thor would come along to help him make it
A well thought-out theory. Not only possible, but also neatly ties up some hanging plot threads. I like it. Gonna be my headcanon now.
Storm breaker was created to give to Beta Ray Bill, when he laid claim to Thors hammer after Thor was defeated in battle.
This might be true because another UA-camr made a video about Thor Destroying the MCU and everything he said is coming true. Including the multiverse. and there’s one comic saying that Odin knows Thor is Extremely power like Universe destroyer and his scared that Thor turns on him and the 9 Realms so he does something using magic.and this was when Thor was growing up when Odin started to see how power Thor was getting.
Or maybe stormbreker was just a weapon saved for when Thor would be king.
honestly that entrance still gives me goosebumps. everyone just watches him destroy outriders.
Quite an interesting theory indeed! And I like it! Also, I remembered in the comics that there is a version of Thor that is the King of Asgard and seek out conquest. I don't remember which universe that is. If anyone remembered which one, please tell me.
My theory on that was it was a contingency plan for Hela, not for Thor. The plan was that when Odin died Hela was too strong for Mjolnir, so he needed a weapon that focused his strength instead of hindering it, but it happened sooner than Odin expected because of Loki sending him to earth powerless, making him age faster. Because of that, he didn’t have time for Thor to rise to his place on the throne and have the weapon made before Hela appeared.
This explains why Mjolnir would only work for the "worthy"... to further prevent Thor from becoming evil.
Lol everyone gangsta till loki and sylvie pull up and fuck up the time line again
Cool theory. But it was mentioned that the axe known as Stormbreaker is a Coronation Gift to the God of Thunder when he takes his place as The King of Asgard. If you see, Odin told thor that Mjolnir was a tool that will help thor focus his powers. But Stormbreaker was a tool to amplify his powers as a king. So if thor was so strong with Mjolnir, which helped thor focus his powers, imagine what Thor can acomplish through out the years with Stormbreaker ?
And some might say that Mjolnir is the only thing that gives thor his powers despite watching Thor Ragnarok. Thor has lost his worthyness so many times in the comics, and has also lost his powers due to it. But that is psycological. The inscription on the hammes says "Whoever holds this hammer if he be worthy shall posses the power of Thor. So who ever holds the hammer will get the powers of The God of Thunder. So Thor can still use his powers with or without Mjolnir. Only those who are worthy can hold the hammer and obtain the power of thor. Idk why these people still exist !
I have to say... you are absolutely brilliant. Your analysis is beautiful and worthy of MCU cannon. I hope they include this someday in future MCU events. Bravo. Liked. Subscribed. Moreeee.e.........
I think it makes more sense that Odin had the weapon designed for some potential threat but not made because such a threat had yet to manifest. I don’t think it had a specific purpose.
Storm Breaker was first introduced in Thor issue 339 it was forged by Eitri enchanted by odin and was given to Beta Ray Bill
It could have been a gift that Odin was going to bestow upon Thor when he ascended to the throne.
you will never be a god
-loki to thanos
Why be a god when you can be a god killer? ***Snaps neck***
If Odin can trap hela he can trap thor good theory but makes no sense
Odin was younger and possibly stronger when he imprisoned Hela. Odin probably realised that Thor would be too much for him, Odin, to handle without some extra help.
@@gerardrbain1972 younger but he trapped her using magic and his life force thats why hella was only able to come out after he died using magic to trap thor wont be a problem for odin
@@gerardrbain1972 and hela is OP whilst on Asgard so yeah odin wont have a problem trapping thor using magic
It's an interesting theory, but I don't think Odin would have killed Thor under any circumstance. Milnor was meant to channel and focus his power, storm breaker to amplify. So I think Odin commissioned the weapon for Thor whenever he mastered his abilities so that he could be the king he knew he could be
Imagine Stormbreaker being a weapon so powerful, even the Asgardian kings feared it.
Love your theories - Very well thought out!
Eh it just doesn't make sense ...
Well the power scale in The MCU is bad but
Read this
Odin without guniyr >>>>>> Thor with Mjölnir
So why would odin even need a new weapon to take down thor
Odin knows that thor powers are very weak compare to hela
Even in thor 3 after all that thor went through
He is still way weaker than hela
Storm breaker would have been given to thor when he would be ready
Mjölnir is actually a weapon that helps thor to master his powers
But thor instead relied too much on it
Thus in thor 3
He got in to a manner where he put himself in question when the hammer got destroy
Storm breaker was a weapon kept in nidavellir till thor is ready
The Axe wasn't even forged yet
It was only prepared to
So for me odin either prepared the axe since thousands of years or at the end of thor 2
He ordered elftri and the dwarf to make stormbreaker
If Thor ever got out of line, Odin would just turn him back into Donald Blake. No need for a super powered axe.
Good in-universe way to explain the reason for Storm Breaker's name, though think it was really just an easter egg call out to the Storm Breaker in the comics. Does not stop us from making fun theories like this thought.
Thor and Hela together conquering the realms and batteling would be awesome to see in What If...?
Love Thor's character arc because he has very tragic past and story. This guy lost his father, mother, brother, sister, his friend Heimdall and his people Asgardians. It does not get worse than that. Yet with every loss he comes back stronger and stronger. I also have obsession with lightning and electricity so I love his abilities and power.
In the comic books Stormbreaker was created for Bata Ray Bill after a fight between him and Thor.
I personally think Odin designed stormbreaker as a gift for Thor when he would rise to be king of Asgard his original hammer would eventually be passed on to say the next Prince or princess in the next generation. And Odin's speer would be laid to rest as it was a weapon of conquest. Order always said that a king must never seek out war but must always be ready for it. This is why I believe stormbreaker has an ax and a hammer for a king. Both can be used as weapons of war but preferably used as tools to build. I also believe that Odin only conquered the nine rounds because they were in such war and chaos with each other that if he had not stepped in they would likely be destruction all around, so in the world was over he laid down his arms but his daughter was not happy with that.
Stormbreaker was designed for Beta Ray Bill to be used to defend against evil . A symbol of hope for the oppress and future hero arise from chaos/calamity to bring aid for Asgard and the 9 realms if require assistance.
This makes perfect sense and I could see it being an in universe justification…but I really only think the creators put that name and axe in place because it existed in the comics under that name.
I think it's purpose is pretty much what you explained.
As for why the mold was made, but not the weapon... how many times has asgard's vault been breached? Ya, not leaving a weapon like stormbreaker just LAYING about, thing is amped enough to stop someone using a fully assembled infinity gauntlet!
Dimitri said it was a kings weapon, Odin probably had it to be made for Thor when he became king of Asgard
Hearing this mans voice talk about anything other than star wars is the strangest thing to me
Maybe it was ordered by Odin to be forged as a last gift to Thor. Basically saying to the dwarves "when i die and my son ascends to the throne, forge that axe as his coronation gift."
I think it was a contengencie plan to kill Hela without destroying Asgard, but then Loki exiled Odin, he and Thor ends up in Sakaar because of Loki haste to call the Bifrost and give Hela direct access to the source of her power (Asgard itself) all that while Thanos was busy forcing Eitri to forge his gauntlet and decimating the dwarves so even if Odin would have mentionned Stormbreaker it would have been the long-running plan that they might not have the time and ressources to implement so they took plan B: Sultur/Ragnarok
I believe the Stormbreaker was more of a contingency plan for Hela, assuming that she would have returned before the time of Ragnarok, but then again; Friga had the power to see into the future, and she would have told Odin what she saw; Surter kicking Hela's a$$, maybe she couldn't have seen pass that event, still it don't make sense having a contingency plan for Thor, when Odin had full knowledge of who Hela was and her capabilities, the contingent plan for "Thor" is very arguable, Friga would have seen these things many times over the centuries, I believe it's a contingency plan for Kang
Odin's father Boar had the mold made in case he had to take out Odin
Devil in the details. It already had a name before it was forged so it makes sense there was no handle/hilt prepared for it, which is why Groot cut a limb to make it, saving Thor in the process as he claimed the weapon and lightning surged in his fingers. Nicely done.
Cool theory but no, the only reason they had the mold there ready to go was because it was meant to be a weapon specifically for Thor, that was fit for a king, but Thor had not yet truly become king of asgard until the end of infinity war, Thor was not meant to have Stormbreaker until he became king of asgard
Sounds like a viable option when Thor was not yet old enough or had not been through enough in life to know why war, vengeance, and pride are not becoming of a king or of a happy kingdom.
I need a WHAT IF....? episode where Thor DOES take the warmonger path like Hela did. Since it's a cartoon, they don't have to worry about the budget something like that would take, so I think it'd be the perfect chance to.
I think it might have been an upgrade for Odin at one point. But after he decided to stop being a conqueror. He stuck with his spear.
"There's always a purpose to everything your father does." -- Frigga
Yet couldn't protect his own wife, his adopted son and his own daughter😂😂😂
@@thomasrockbottom2907 I mean, Odin can't control the fate of the universe. But what he can control, especially on Asgard, has a purpose... or maybe he could and it was all part of the plan? Without fighting and dealing with Loki in Thor 1 and 2 and Avengers, and defeating Hela by
Allowing Ragnarok to happen, Thor would never have had the anger and pain to withstand the strength of the star on Nedavellir in order to make Stormbreaker, which in turn eventually killed Thanos and saved half the universe
@@cama2276 odin is a fool
@@thomasrockbottom2907 and an old man
Interesting theory but I think storm breaker was a contingency weapon for any threat the potential king or ruler of Asgard had to face down the line. I would say it was never deployed because of the power it wielded and that was the ability to summon the bifrost. Storm breaker being able to summon bifrost not only makes it a god killer but also a planet destroyer as well. That would be a lot of responsibility for any one person thus it should only be used if needed.
It makes more sense if it was designed to kill Hela. Only Odin's life held her back. He commissioned it after Thor and Loki were born, but didn't need it so long as he was alive. Then, Loki enchants Odin toward the end of his life, so he's unable to have it built and ready for Thor when he dies. When Odin wields/wielded Gungnir, he's vastly more powerful than Thor. Thus, there's no need for another weapon. Unless it's for an even more powerful baddie, like Hela. There are also other commenters below who suggest it's for Hela and I agree.
It was made for his alien counterpart and friend called "Beta Ray Bill." Beta Ray Bill is one of the few who can lift Thor's hammer, in addition to Captain America. Beta Ray Bill wished to wield Mjolnir to aid him in his quest, but Odin said "Nay. Mjolnir belongs to Thor, but perhaps there is another way." He hired the Dwarves who crafted Mjolnir to forge another hammer with power identical to Thor's hammer: Stormbreaker was its name!
Or maybe it's the new Female Thor's weapon.
The mold was probably made by order of odin so that if thor ever lost mjolnir he would have a weapon to kill hela if the need ever rose but odin never got to tell thor of it because of his death.
i think it was a contingency plan for hela in case she returned before odin's death because its was explained it was a weapon on legend in other words before thors time and maybe even odin's time
It was commissioned by Old King Thor in preparation for facing off with Gor the God Butcher.
It is against Asgardian law to kill anyone in the royal family. Odin himself would have been banished. It's why Hela was imprisoned and not killed. When Loki brought Bor back to life and Thor killed him, Thor was banished and Balder became king.
Noooo, Loki was having it made to beat Thor when he came back but he figured out what was going on too soon.
Odin had it made for Beta Ray Bill, but in the MCU apparently Beta Ray Bill never picked up thors Hammer...
Alternatively, Odin knew that Thor would be heavily tested after Odin's death. And prepared a weapon to aid him.
Imagine if Stormbreaker was properly constructed, at a fully functioning Nidavellir properly maintained by the Dwarves, and with an actual, proper handle. It'd be even more powerful than what we see in Infinity War and Endgame.
I mean if it was Odin then I feel like it was for Hella not Thor. Based on the movies it seems like Odin felt his change of heart coming and knew he might have to put her down the permanent way but instead when he was able to seal her away he felt he no longer needed storm breaker.
Asgardians are like super soldiers, their power can be granted as well as taken.
It's strange" that "Stormbreaker" wasn't forged, and used against "Hela".
But" that this could've been intended to be used against "Thor Odinson"?
All Father Odin couldn't control Hela's insatiable thirst for conquest, and had to seal her away in a prison dimension.
He didn't want to kill Hela if he didn't have to.
But" could All Father Odin kill The Goddess Of Death!?
(Probably NOT)! Not even with "Stormbreaker".
But" having one child that can't be killed, not even with weapons from heaven" is a terrifying burden, should this child determine "WINNER TAKES ALL"!!
And" it's natural to think All Father Odin wouldn't allow another of his children to become like "Hela" if he could prevent it before it happens.
That Thor's power will eventually prove to be greater than his EGO, and will achieve anything he imagines" -is another TERRIFYING BURDEN!!😳😵
Stormbreaker was actually made for Beta Ray Bill as a reward because not only did he beat the shit out of Thor twice, but he took Thor's hammer from him (yes he was able to lift it) in the first fight, and saved his life in the second fight instead of letting him die in the fire pits. Then Stormbreaker was created and given to Beta Ray as a reward.
I think it was exactly what it was, a kings backup weapon for redemption.
The last time we saw Thor, he was packing some serious power like we have not seen so far. The next time we see him in battle, it should be amazing and completely elemental.
Makes more sense for it to have been Odin's idea for a way to kill Hella when he eventually died and she broke out of prison, after all it's designed to kill immortal god's.