As a New Hampshire resident, they are here. I personally know people who have seen them in the Ossipee range. I’m sure the more remote places in the state have even more.
@@SuperBikerboy101 I lived in Wolfeboro when I made this comment originally. Everyone knows they are in the state, just the state government doesn’t recognize them. Most likely because it would bring hiking tourism numbers down
9:15 in the morning one crossed Rt 9/202 by Keyser Pond summer of 2013. Clear as day, long tail dark brown tuff on the end, little darker than a Golden Retrever and about the same size. Saw him from 50 to 100 feet away square boxy profile, walked across the nightly like a boss!
@@rcdogmanduh4440 My brother lives in Bradford NH. He had a Mountain lion in his driveway last summer. His neighbor told him that there's two of them in that area that he's seen. One is the standard tan color. The other is much darker.
In Vt, many claim to have seen them. But the tens of thousands of game cameras out there have not captured images. I think it's extremely hard to eradicate an entire species. So for my personal stance, it's possible that they are here and I hope they are.
They are in the Northeast the game department does not want to make it known so they tend to deny it I guess for the safety of the lions from Trophy Hunters
@@curiousbystander9193 look it up. It happened. Saw the news at the time. The mountain Lion had crossed several states all the way from Ohio, if I remember correctly.
The mountain lion he refers to in CT was the one I observed in my town of Brookfield which is in Northern Fairfield county. My wife and I called the state and they told us there are no mountain lions in CT. A week later it was killed by a car on the Merritt Parkway in the southern part of Fairfield County. There were pictures of the cat dead on the road and the state still refused to admit there were lions here. Its pretty easy to identify a mountain lion. Bigger than a Bobcat but the real difference is in the coloration of the coat and more noticeable is a very long tail roughly the size of the torso, oh and the growl they have will stand the hair on the back of your neck much like fisher cats. Since that sighting I have talked with a couple of folks from towns north of my town who also hunt and they have seen them as well. Don't know why states don't want to admit there are mountain lions, I think they're just scaredy cats!
Same here in Indiana. There was a picture of one taken on a DNR camera, a few years ago, that made the news. I asked a DNR officer about it at the State Fair and he acted like he didn't want to talk about it. Like it was some kind of leaked secret. How silly.
Just yesterday, I saw one in my driveway. I was sitting in my deckchair and it came out of the foliage next to my garage. It was a cub. Black muzzle area, thick/stocky build, long tail with black tip. Anyone who says they're not in the state are full of it! I know what I saw. I was 30 feet away from it and the weather was clear + sunny. There's no mistaking what it was.
@@jswan2580 Bobcat have a non-existent tail. Did you read the comment? I know people in Vermont that have seen the same thing. The state game agencies know that they are here but having that information public would cause hysteria. Grow up child.
@@jefftobey1102 Exactly. To everything you said. We know for fact they’re in CT, upstate NY, & Canada. Why not NH or VT? Also, what about wandering males? The male lion hit by a car in Milton CT (beach area FFS) was from the Dakotas, confirmed w/ DNA. Males wander hundreds of miles looking for mates. So even if there isn’t a breeding population I have a VERY hard time believing they don’t pass through.
Yeah. Massachusetts doesn't have any either. Except for the several I have seen. I lived and hunted [a lot] in western ma. I used to bow hunt behind a local sawmill with my son. He would use deer scent on his shoes. One afternoon I watched him move across a large opening to get to a blind. A short while later a mountain lion came out of the woods stalking the scent my son left. It was crouched down and in stalking mode about fifty yards from me. No mistaking this animal. I hooted to my son and the mountain lion ran just into the woods and moaned and growled for twenty minutes or so while my son and I examined it's tracks. I mentioned this to the mill owner who replied He and most of the other men that worked there had spotted it several times.
I can tell you they are here too. Saw one dead on the side of Interstate 93 in Campton on July 4, 2022. No mistaking it. Cat like head with cupped ears and a long rope like tail. White belly. My guess is it weighed around 90 lbs. Why I didn’t pull over and take a picture of it I’ll never forgive myself. The local game warden later assured me it was a coyote or something else. Funny thing was when I drove by later that day it was gone. Funny how it got picked up on a national holiday when all the state NhDOT employees are off. I know what I saw. No doubt about it. They are here. This had been an ongoing coverup in NH for years. Why, I don’t really know.
I live just south of Nashua. About 20 years ago a Mountain Lion walk through my backyard, witnessed by my neighbor as well as myself. Of course we were called crazy by the police and the state wildlife people. Two weeks later I ran into a woman from the University of Colorado in the woods behind my property. She was there looking for signs of the Mountain Lion. She claimed they/it was just passing through on its yearly migration from central VT to Cape Ann.
Just one thought. The unregulated hunting in the 18th and 19th centuries was an intense evolutional pressure. If any of the cats survived in the eastern US it was the most cryptic and secretive individuals. The culture of secrecy would have been passed down through the offspring of the survivors, assuming there were some.
See, I’m of the belief that no cats native to NH (or NE generally) survived. For sure NE gets nomadic males, from Western states or Canada. That’s been confirmed via body & DNA. But breeding pops? I’m not so sure.
@@t.l.1610 You could very well be right but there are some big chunks of forest in Maine, New Brunswick and the Gaspe peninsula that have never had many people roaming around.
@@tadblackington1676 True, good point. I suppose its possible a pop survived & remained hidden. There’s been stories of cat sightings 1900’s-now 🤷🏻♀️. Or as you pointed out, rapid cultural adaptation of extreme secrecy, possible. My fav title for them is Ghost Cats; highly intelligent & already secretive by nature.
Let’s protect them if we can. If I were to ever see an endangered lion or anything else I would not blab about it to anyone to where would- be poachers come in for the kill.
I saw two, one near twin mountain when it ran right in front of my car at 5 AM (very long tail) and the other in Jaffrey, and it tried to stalk me but I ran to my car so it couldn't get me. These were not bobcats because I think bobcats are very weird looking, these were lions, tail and all. lol
I have hunted in new england for 50 years...saw one in pike, nh 2 years ago and one in western, mass., 4 years ago...got within 50 feet from the one in ma....have seen lots of bob cats and a lynx, this was neither...gorgeous creature...i stopped walking alone at night out from my tree stand after that...
Very interesting! My dad claimed to see one in Temple, NH maybe 20 years ago - but like you mentioned, it’s hard to know for sure! Really appreciate you covering this topic, and looking forward to watching your other videos. Thanks my friend 👍🏻
I believe I saw what looked like a cougar in Lancaster, nh. It was trotting along a camp road and disappeared immediately as my truck passed by. I used to work for someone who raised cougars in Florida and am familiar with their anatomical shape and build. This was a juvenile (a slightly yellower coat, rather than the mouse gray darker color of an adult). This was the only time I saw one and I have come up here for 75 years and now live here so I think the biologist is accurate in his statement about “they are rare and/or possibly got here from somewhere else.”
I believe you. I myself have seen two bobcats, one Fischer cat, and one mountain lion. Plus plenty of bears and moose in Canaan, NH. Oh yes, they are in n.h.
I saw a mountain lion while riding my mountain bike on the Bog Dam Loop road at York Pond in Berlin NH last week. It stopped and looked at me in the center of the road then moved to the side and watched again before leaving. The tail was 3-4 feet long the body about 4 feet I would say 100lbs. Darker brown to my eyes, probably 100 yards ahead of me. We used to have bobcats at our farm in SWNH this was not a bobcat.
I’m a retired ups driver and worked in Ossipee for more then 20 years. I saw the long tail of what I believed to be a mountain lion on bean road in Moultonboro in the early nineties. I told my experience to a retired fish and game officer who at the time was working as a security officer at the superior court in Ossipee Forrest Perkins was his name and was a family friend and as kid I thought he was so cool in his uniform and clean truck. He smiled and said you have a good head on your shoulders nothing is of the possibility. My son name is Forrest 😀 I miss you Forrest Perkins and all the folks in Ossipee.
I have never seen a mountain lion in nh, lots of coydogs, which don't like to be sited, especially in the woods. when I used to go to the grain store, the owner had a mounted wild boar on the wall. he said he got it in northern nh. never saw a wild boar either.
Cougars are very elusive and wary. It is probable that some of them survived in the remote mountain forests despite all the relentless hunting. Hundreds of people in the Appalachian states have seen them.
I've seen one in Connecticut. 2 a.m. walking down the breakdown Lane near Foxwoods casino. It was huge. I stopped the car right behind it. They don't care about borders.
I live in MA. I travel NH rte12 to get to VT to visit family. One year in Fitzwilliam I saw this beige colored critter making its way through a field towards the road. At first I thought that it was a dog, but as I got closer it was clear that it was not a dog. It was a mountain lion. I passed by it before it got to the road and had a clear look at it. I watched it saunter across the road in my rearview mirror. This was 20 years ago easy, but I remember it like it was yesterday.
Last year the mailman saw one come off my property and cross the road right in front of him. I'm in westhampton MA. It was headed along the edge of the beaver pond towards Chesterfield. Right on Northwest rd.
Back in 1968 on my first trip to the upper penninsula of Michigan I saw a mountain lion near to a fish hatchery weir. It ran very fast and crossed the gravel road in front of us, I have seen hundreds of deer and it was not a deer. Its tail hanged low and had that curl near the end .It cleared both sides of the road by at least 3 feet.At the time sports writers and wild life biologists were saying no way .Well Wisconsin and Minnesota had mountain lions and there is no natural border.I have been to N. Hampshire and went up north of Berlin. There sure as hell are possibilities of mountain lions up there. Not hundreds but some . if there are fish or small fur bearers available.
We have mountain lions here in the river valley (Minnesota). I saw a lion in Kansas while turkey hunting 10-15 years ago. Most biologist claim mtn lions just pass through Minnesota & there’s no record of lions in Kansas in the past 100 years (even though it is literally a few miles away from Colorado lmao). There was a mtn lion ran over by a vehicle 2 months ago in Bloomington Minnesota. Bloomington is a lot of swamp, marsh area. There has been wildfires in CO within the past few weeks/months so I’m sure some are getting pushed. Mountain lions have a long tail & a long back. I don’t believe they should be shot. Though Ik many ppl that would.
Kansas DPW will freely tell you that transient big cats pass through Kansas, and they have had that position for nearly 20 years. Like in New England, there is no permanent breeding population in Ks
Seen a mountain lion in NH back in 2000, coming down a trail from Mt Moosilauke it crossed the trail about 200 feet ahead. Came out from the left, it stopped and looked up the trail then continued across the trail. When I got down to the spot I didn't see anything around.
One loped across the fairway while we were waiting to tee off at the Balsam's Panorama Golf Course in Dixville Notch back in the late 80's. It was only about 50 yards in front of us, and there was no mistaking what it was. In the following days there were reports of sightings around Errol and over into Maine.
I have enough land to have a cave that the Bobcats have resided in for Generations. We're here in Connecticut we also see mountain lions and everyone at this point can tell the difference because there's Bobcats everywhere and every once in awhile a mountain lion is spotted
There are no wolf populations south of the St Lawrence. Eastern coyotes have ancestral wolf DNA, look a little like wolves, and are huge compared to western coyotes. Anyone who's "seen a wolf" in New England saw an Eastern Coyote.
@@zacharywiedner327 an animal ran in front of my car in Glen NH back around 2000 and I said to my girlfriend at the time.... that aint no coyote. SHe agreed and said there was wolf hybrid genes around here in the coyote.
@@curiousbystander9193 They can be shocking. The first time I saw one after spending years in the plains states (seeing little western coyotes all the time) was that it was a wolf. Thats actually why I know this, I was convinced I saw a wolf, researched it, and found out that coyotes up here are just BIG.
@@zacharywiedner327 Years ago I was around a shepherd wolf hybrid dog that was domesticated...... that dog was more similar to the dog I saw crossing the road than our idea of what coyotes look like.... this thing had longer legs, a bigger chest, a stronger nose and bigger head..like over 100 pounds anyway...never seen a 100 pound coyote..... you?
i drive to Claremont NH 6 days a week to pickup the macglafflin dairy farms milk. several yrs ago i was heading south on rte 12 leaving charlestown ctr going through the "S" curve when crossing the road in front of me coming out of the woods on the left was what looked exactly like every picture of a female african lion. i stared at the side profile of the head as it proceeded to the fields on the right of the road. ( i presume heading for water in the river). it was the exact shape of an african lion...no bobcat ever looked like that and mountain lions to me are huge muscular bodies with smaller domestic like cat heads...this was neither. got to see it walk across in front of me for at least 20 seconds..
I think any mountain lion sightings are passersby from other regions - like Canada and the Midwest. As for boars and stuff (even mountain lions?), they could've escaped from Corbin Park. Maybe?
I saw one dead on the median of rt 93 about 25 yards from the turnaround the state police use for traffic observation just north of Concord. I was traveling south about 5 in the afternoon. It was laying dead on the slight slope to the right of the north bound breakdown lane. It was a dusky tan-gray with a tail about 3 feet long. The fur on the tail was bushy to the end. It was on it's side with 3 legs visible. It was too large to be a bobcat or lynx. Head to butt was at least as long as the tail. I was tempted to go back and take pictures. I'm guessing it was about 2008 or 2009. About 2012 I watched a large cat having a late winter chase with a rabbit. The cat was probably a lynx. This was in Laconia. It was a field with matted down tall grass with some remnants of snow still in the shadows. That cat chased the rabbit for 15 minutes and never caught it. The rabbit kept ducking into brush and holes in the matted grass. I was close enough to see the cat had tufted ears, mostly one color with a lighter underbelly. The tail was just long enough to reach the ground while it was standing straight up. It was bigger than the bobcats I've seen. I did email NHF&G and they agreed it was probably a lynx as they'd seen a few moving southward. Rt 91 in Massachusetts has had 2 confirmed mountain lion kills but they've attributed them to released pets.
I can tell you they are here too. Saw one dead on the side of Interstate 93 in Campton on July 4, 2022. No mistaking it. Cat like head with cupped ears and a long rope like tail. White belly. My guess is it weighed around 90 lbs. Why I didn’t pull over and take a picture of it I’ll never forgive myself. The local game warden later assured me it was a coyote or something else. Funny thing was when I drove by later that day it was gone. Funny how it got picked up on a national holiday when all the state NhDOT employees are off. I know what I saw. No doubt about it. They are here. This had been an ongoing coverup in NH for years. Why, I don’t really know.
Yeah, we don't have any either in NY except in the Southern Tier just north and West of Binghamton up into Central NY. I saw 3 in my neighbors driveway standing by his Blazer just West of Syracuse, we both took pictures of them. We reported it to the DEC and talked to a couple people in the know, they stated that the Eastern Puma was native to the State but they told us they were very timid, the native people in the area called them Ghost Cats but none had been seen in the state for almost a century. About a year later a guy I worked with hit and killed one with his car near Victory, NY and low and behold it had a DEC ear tag. He reported it and the officer he talked to told him there was no such thing in the State until my buddy told him about the ear tag and gave him the number, he was told to expect an visit from a officer. The DEC Officer arrived within a little over an hour and confiscated the carcass. My buddy had photographed the cat extensively and the ear tag yet everyone in the State is still denying everything.
No way are all reports mistakes. I COULD accept NH saying “No breeding populations”, but nomads? Males travel hundreds of miles mate searching (see: Milton CT). Ontario has a healthy population. 🤷🏻♀️
Three years ago, at the school I worked at in Charlestown NH, I spotted a mountain lion at night under street lights. I got pretty close before it took off. Absolutely was a mountain lion, scared me pretty good, I love NH! Expanding Knowledge 🌎
I want so bad for them to confirm mountain lions in Massachusetts/ New England in general. My uncle has told me he has seen them in the Quabbin resivor MA. My cousin also seen one in that same area seen one plan as day in while she was on a picnic. I live in ware Ma n hope to catch a glimpse
My girlfriend saw one in southeast ma (taunton area) some years back. I have no reason to doubt her. She is woods savy and not BS artist in any way. I myself have seen some wildlife that you would not think would be in a city enviorment in the late sixties and early seventies. And don't even get me started on how much more we see in the last ten years. Coyotes and bobcats in your back yard are a common thing now in the greater Boston area.
One crossed in front of me a few years ago in the month June around 1-2PM in the Oak Island area of Lake Winnipesaukee (Meredith NH). It had the gait & the long tail that curled upward.
Here in the Adirondacks I’ve spoken with 3 people who say they have seen a mountain lion, if they did it was probably the same one and maybe it was passing through because they are all in the same area and the sightings were around the same time. I’ve never seen one myself.
In 2019 a black leopard or mountain lion crossing the road at raymond nh firestation in front of my truck. It took its dear time crossing, so i got a clear look at it . It was the size of a130 pound german shepard.
likewise in Michigan. the MDNR denies cougars are in the state despite numerous reported sightings especially in the northern part of the state! not so where I live now in New Mexico.
One stalked me in Jaffrey during 2018, and another ran across the street right in front of my car near Franconia Notch at 4-5 AM during 2019. It was right i front of my vehicle and had a 3 foot tail. Not a bobcat, they are weird looking. I heard a hunter saw one in the area of Franconia Notch where I saw it.
@@TheRandomINFJ Closer to the Twin Mountains as I was driving down Rte 3. Due to its color I thought it was a deer at first until it ran directly in front of my car, and I saw its 3 foot tail. There is no mistaken what is was because it ran right in front of me with my headlights on it. I have no idea why NH denies they are here.
Years ago now, my daughter and I most definitely saw one just north of Franklin. We were returning from Bristol on route 3A one late summer afternoon. It crossed the road in front of us and quickly darted behind a guard rail and down towards the Franklin dam. It was no bobcat. I even called Fish and Game, but was quickly shut down as to the possibility. But we definitely saw it. Including its tail it took up half the road. Then several years later, (2009) while living in Bethlehem off Profile Rd, on the Franconia border, a tow truck driver (NH winters!) pointed out Mt lion footprints he noticed in the fresh snow by our driveway. They ARE cats after all, and good at stealth.
I live in Western Massachusetts and about 15 yrs ago I watched a Black Mountain Lion transversing a cow pasture behind my house from the west to east. When I tried to report it, the person called me a lair. "You did not see what you think you saw." I know what a Mt. Lion looks like and it was Black. ✌
In 2010 while driving a gasoline tanker one ran across Rt93 south I was slowing down to get on RT302 in Bethlehem at about 2AM looked right at me and it had a long tail that curved up . Made the hairs on my neck stand up ! 😂😂😂
There are mountain lions that have been seen on game cameras, both still images and videos. The people that have these images are not and will not show them to anyone, especially the fish and game department.
I did wilderness work for numerous years in the 90's in NH and western Maine. A fellow I worked with whom had much more experience in the area told me the paw prints he'd seen numerous times in EVans Notch were definitely not bobcat. HArd to get more wilderness than that area up under Route 2.
My friend took a pic of a female in grafton ny, with her young, heading into the high weeds, long tail you can't mistake that face. the ny dec just has a laugh when mt.lion gets mentioned in New York. they are around they just dont want us to know their crafty like that. Respect to them from a distance.
We have sightings here in north central mass not far from nh border ! 25 or so miles. We now have a lot of hunters etc w trail cams .. no saying it’s not. ..True.
5 years too late- i was listening to a female mountain lion the other night calling for a mate, and then a couple nights later mading hellova row with coyotes maybe.....a couple hundred yards from a rhode island beach. apparently its not just new england- you might have a better chance seeing evidence of a mountain all up and down the eastern u.s. as in the west, including right up to the coast
We saw a mountain lion on our farm her in the western Catskills NY now several years ago, me and my wife, no mistake, tail and all. Not too far in time from the mountain lion killed in Connecticut. I was told something was wrong with me and since then I do not trust these officials. That this was the same mountain lion killed in Connecticut and traveling through my farm does not make sense to me. I am a sheep farmer and my worker said he saw a mountain lion and a few of my sheep had severe claw wounds on their hind quarters. I sent pictures to the appropriate officials but no response and I am convinced they have decided lying is the proper policy to deal with the public.
Contact Ware gun and rod club in MA. Their trail can caught a mountain lion in their archery range. I saw the picture first hand in 2013. It looked nothing like a bobcat
We know they have traveled long distance in recent years. Like from the Dakotas to Connecticut a decade ago. So not impossible. And actual pictures would be great to have. And there are now thousands of cameras that can capture them. But not likely a breeding population yet. They have continued to move eastward across the northern states for 40 years now. Plenty of deer for them to eat. Just need some females to move this way.
all these comments are proving his point ... "no way, I definitely saw one!" if in fact all these people saw mountain lions in NH out and about, they would be captured on trail cameras (or a clear picture/video at the time of sighting) time and time again - but there is none of that. you can be sure of what you saw, but that doesn't mean you're right. he summed it up best, there is a chance for a transient male or two to pass through, but there is no established population. we would know
@@dangang4927 dude I’m not lying when I say I wish so bad they were out there, but take it from someone who literally walks trails and is in the bush every week, if they where here we know about it, so many hunters,so many trail cam’s, I wish people appreciated real animals that are actually breeding And living in NH as much as fantasy one’s
Jesus christ! You can walk across the whole state in 4 hours. The whole state of new hampshire is about the size of ohio state forest! The "County" that thinks it's a state!
New Hampshire is more interested in keeping the damn, tourists coming. If they admit to lions here, that' might slow down the gravey train. NH fish and game is a joke.
No Prints no fur no evidence. I promise you I spend more time in the woods than most people. I have criss crossed Northern New Hampshire Vermont and Maine all my life. I'm a Hunter of moosesheds rockhound and gold prospector, I have spent thousands of hours in the New England woods. I also lived out west for a few years. I saw and tracked many mountain lions especially in Utah. I promise you what people are seeing their bobcats.
As a New Hampshire resident, they are here. I personally know people who have seen them in the Ossipee range. I’m sure the more remote places in the state have even more.
Agreed I am from carrol county and know of loads of sightings
@@SuperBikerboy101 I lived in Wolfeboro when I made this comment originally. Everyone knows they are in the state, just the state government doesn’t recognize them. Most likely because it would bring hiking tourism numbers down
@@Zer-db1bp Not only that but I believe they haven't got dna evidence as of yet with such a low population
9:15 in the morning one crossed Rt 9/202 by Keyser Pond summer of 2013. Clear as day, long tail dark brown tuff on the end, little darker than a Golden Retrever and about the same size. Saw him from 50 to 100 feet away square boxy profile, walked across the nightly like a boss!
@@rcdogmanduh4440 My brother lives in Bradford NH. He had a Mountain lion in his driveway last summer. His neighbor told him that there's two of them in that area that he's seen. One is the standard tan color. The other is much darker.
In Vt, many claim to have seen them. But the tens of thousands of game cameras out there have not captured images. I think it's extremely hard to eradicate an entire species. So for my personal stance, it's possible that they are here and I hope they are.
They are in the Northeast the game department does not want to make it known so they tend to deny it I guess for the safety of the lions from Trophy Hunters
One crossed in front of me while traveling on Rte. 114 in Sutton NH, broad daylight, perfect visibility. It was NOT a Bobcat.
Nobody believed me when I said I saw a mountain lion in Connecticut until one was killed on the Merrit Parkway.
when? there should be some reports about this
@@curiousbystander9193Google it
@@curiousbystander9193 look it up. It happened. Saw the news at the time. The mountain Lion had crossed several states all the way from Ohio, if I remember correctly.
@@curiousbystander9193it was on the news- I think channel 8. Maybe the environmental agency can help you.
The mountain lion he refers to in CT was the one I observed in my town of Brookfield which is in Northern Fairfield county. My wife and I called the state and they told us there are no mountain lions in CT. A week later it was killed by a car on the Merritt Parkway in the southern part of Fairfield County. There were pictures of the cat dead on the road and the state still refused to admit there were lions here. Its pretty easy to identify a mountain lion. Bigger than a Bobcat but the real difference is in the coloration of the coat and more noticeable is a very long tail roughly the size of the torso, oh and the growl they have will stand the hair on the back of your neck much like fisher cats. Since that sighting I have talked with a couple of folks from towns north of my town who also hunt and they have seen them as well. Don't know why states don't want to admit there are mountain lions, I think they're just scaredy cats!
jeffrey.. the state is likely afraid the cougars would be declared endangered species and so all kinds of ensuing restrictions!
@@jimmylieb5225 You are probably correct.
Same here in Indiana. There was a picture of one taken on a DNR camera, a few years ago, that made the news. I asked a DNR officer about it at the State Fair and he acted like he didn't want to talk about it. Like it was some kind of leaked secret. How silly.
If they are proven to be found, they would go on the endangered species list for the state and that would cost F&G on deer hunting revenues
Just yesterday, I saw one in my driveway. I was sitting in my deckchair and it came out of the foliage next to my garage. It was a cub. Black muzzle area, thick/stocky build, long tail with black tip. Anyone who says they're not in the state are full of it! I know what I saw. I was 30 feet away from it and the weather was clear + sunny. There's no mistaking what it was.
@@jswan2580 lol yeah because you know lol everything lol right lol lol lol
@@jswan2580 Bobcat have a non-existent tail. Did you read the comment? I know people in Vermont that have seen the same thing. The state game agencies know that they are here but having that information public would cause hysteria. Grow up child.
@@jefftobey1102 Exactly. To everything you said. We know for fact they’re in CT, upstate NY, & Canada. Why not NH or VT? Also, what about wandering males? The male lion hit by a car in Milton CT (beach area FFS) was from the Dakotas, confirmed w/ DNA. Males wander hundreds of miles looking for mates. So even if there isn’t a breeding population I have a VERY hard time believing they don’t pass through.
When you se a very large deer up in the tree, you know there is a mountain lion somewhere nearby. Rockingham county nh
Do you have a photo?
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Extremely odd, as there's no record of a mountain lion ever tree caching a kill.
Yeah. Massachusetts doesn't have any either. Except for the several I have seen. I lived and hunted [a lot] in western ma. I used to bow hunt behind a local sawmill with my son. He would use deer scent on his shoes. One afternoon I watched him move across a large opening to get to a blind. A short while later a mountain lion came out of the woods stalking the scent my son left. It was crouched down and in stalking mode about fifty yards from me. No mistaking this animal. I hooted to my son and the mountain lion ran just into the woods and moaned and growled for twenty minutes or so while my son and I examined it's tracks. I mentioned this to the mill owner who replied He and most of the other men that worked there had spotted it several times.
Do you have a photo? Of the tracks at least?
Sorry. The Massachusetts Governor has banned mountain lions. If one was to show up it’s a mandatory fine and jail time.
I can tell you they are here too. Saw one dead on the side of Interstate 93 in Campton on July 4, 2022. No mistaking it. Cat like head with cupped ears and a long rope like tail. White belly. My guess is it weighed around 90 lbs. Why I didn’t pull over and take a picture of it I’ll never forgive myself. The local game warden later assured me it was a coyote or something else. Funny thing was when I drove by later that day it was gone. Funny how it got picked up on a national holiday when all the state NhDOT employees are off.
I know what I saw. No doubt about it. They are here.
This had been an ongoing coverup in NH for years. Why, I don’t really know.
Buddy of mine saw one drop from a tree and land on the back of a buck deer and the chaos thereafter. This was also in western mass- Colrain Mass
Any trailcam pics?
I live just south of Nashua. About 20 years ago a Mountain Lion walk through my backyard, witnessed by my neighbor as well as myself. Of course we were called crazy by the police and the state wildlife people. Two weeks later I ran into a woman from the University of Colorado in the woods behind my property. She was there looking for signs of the Mountain Lion. She claimed they/it was just passing through on its yearly migration from central VT to Cape Ann.
Just one thought. The unregulated hunting in the 18th and 19th centuries was an intense evolutional pressure. If any of the cats survived in the eastern US it was the most cryptic and secretive individuals. The culture of secrecy would have been passed down through the offspring of the survivors, assuming there were some.
See, I’m of the belief that no cats native to NH (or NE generally) survived. For sure NE gets nomadic males, from Western states or Canada. That’s been confirmed via body & DNA. But breeding pops? I’m not so sure.
@@t.l.1610 You could very well be right but there are some big chunks of forest in Maine, New Brunswick and the Gaspe peninsula that have never had many people roaming around.
@@tadblackington1676 True, good point. I suppose its possible a pop survived & remained hidden. There’s been stories of cat sightings 1900’s-now 🤷🏻♀️. Or as you pointed out, rapid cultural adaptation of extreme secrecy, possible. My fav title for them is Ghost Cats; highly intelligent & already secretive by nature.
one can hope that mountain lions can survive
Let’s protect them if we can.
If I were to ever see an endangered lion or anything else I would not blab about it to anyone to where would- be poachers come in for the kill.
I saw two, one near twin mountain when it ran right in front of my car at 5 AM (very long tail) and the other in Jaffrey, and it tried to stalk me but I ran to my car so it couldn't get me. These were not bobcats because I think bobcats are very weird looking, these were lions, tail and all. lol
I have hunted in new england for 50 years...saw one in pike, nh 2 years ago and one in western, mass., 4 years ago...got within 50 feet from the one in ma....have seen lots of bob cats and a lynx, this was neither...gorgeous creature...i stopped walking alone at night out from my tree stand after that...
Very interesting! My dad claimed to see one in Temple, NH maybe 20 years ago - but like you mentioned, it’s hard to know for sure! Really appreciate you covering this topic, and looking forward to watching your other videos. Thanks my friend 👍🏻
I believe I saw what looked like a cougar in Lancaster, nh. It was trotting along a camp road and disappeared immediately as my truck passed by. I used to work for someone who raised cougars in Florida and am familiar with their anatomical shape and build. This was a juvenile (a slightly yellower coat, rather than the mouse gray darker color of an adult). This was the only time I saw one and I have come up here for 75 years and now live here so I think the biologist is accurate in his statement about “they are rare and/or possibly got here from somewhere else.”
I believe you. I myself have seen two bobcats, one Fischer cat, and one mountain lion. Plus plenty of bears and moose in Canaan, NH. Oh yes, they are in n.h.
I saw a mountain lion while riding my mountain bike on the Bog Dam Loop road at York Pond in Berlin NH last week. It stopped and looked at me in the center of the road then moved to the side and watched again before leaving. The tail was 3-4 feet long the body about 4 feet I would say 100lbs. Darker brown to my eyes, probably 100 yards ahead of me. We used to have bobcats at our farm in SWNH this was not a bobcat.
@@kenchester3072 you are lucky
I’m a retired ups driver and worked in Ossipee for more then 20 years. I saw the long tail of what I believed to be a mountain lion on bean road in Moultonboro in the early nineties. I told my experience to a retired fish and game officer who at the time was working as a security officer at the superior court in Ossipee Forrest Perkins was his name and was a family friend and as kid I thought he was so cool in his uniform and clean truck. He smiled and said you have a good head on your shoulders nothing is of the possibility. My son name is Forrest 😀 I miss you Forrest Perkins and all the folks in Ossipee.
I have never seen a mountain lion in nh, lots of coydogs, which don't like to be sited, especially in the woods. when I used to go to the grain store, the owner had a mounted wild boar on the wall. he said he got it in northern nh. never saw a wild boar either.
Cougars are very elusive and wary. It is probable that some of them survived in the remote mountain forests despite all the relentless hunting. Hundreds of people in the Appalachian states have seen them.
I've seen one in Connecticut. 2 a.m. walking down the breakdown Lane near Foxwoods casino. It was huge. I stopped the car right behind it. They don't care about borders.
Saw a catamount run across rte 9 in broad daylight between brattleboro vt and keene nh. It was such a powerfully built animal. So wish i had a dashcam
I live in MA. I travel NH rte12 to get to VT to visit family. One year in Fitzwilliam I saw this beige colored critter making its way through a field towards the road. At first I thought that it was a dog, but as I got closer it was clear that it was not a dog. It was a mountain lion. I passed by it before it got to the road and had a clear look at it. I watched it saunter across the road in my rearview mirror. This was 20 years ago easy, but I remember it like it was yesterday.
Last year the mailman saw one come off my property and cross the road right in front of him. I'm in westhampton MA. It was headed along the edge of the beaver pond towards Chesterfield. Right on Northwest rd.
Back in 1968 on my first trip to the upper penninsula of Michigan I saw a mountain lion near to a fish hatchery weir. It ran very fast and crossed the gravel road in front of us, I have seen hundreds of deer and it was not a deer. Its tail hanged low and had that curl near the end .It cleared both sides of the road by at least 3 feet.At the time sports writers and wild life biologists were saying no way .Well Wisconsin and Minnesota had mountain lions and there is no natural border.I have been to N. Hampshire and went up north of Berlin. There sure as hell are possibilities of mountain lions up there. Not hundreds but some . if there are fish or small fur bearers available.
We have mountain lions here in the river valley (Minnesota). I saw a lion in Kansas while turkey hunting 10-15 years ago. Most biologist claim mtn lions just pass through Minnesota & there’s no record of lions in Kansas in the past 100 years (even though it is literally a few miles away from Colorado lmao).
There was a mtn lion ran over by a vehicle 2 months ago in Bloomington Minnesota. Bloomington is a lot of swamp, marsh area. There has been wildfires in CO within the past few weeks/months so I’m sure some are getting pushed.
Mountain lions have a long tail & a long back.
I don’t believe they should be shot. Though Ik many ppl that would.
Kansas DPW will freely tell you that transient big cats pass through Kansas, and they have had that position for nearly 20 years. Like in New England, there is no permanent breeding population in Ks
They are in Maine a friend of mine quarter quick glimpse the tale was as long as the animal itself he saw it clearly
Seen a mountain lion in NH back in 2000, coming down a trail from Mt Moosilauke it crossed the trail about 200 feet ahead. Came out from the left, it stopped and looked up the trail then continued across the trail. When I got down to the spot I didn't see anything around.
saw......ugh
One loped across the fairway while we were waiting to tee off at the Balsam's Panorama Golf Course in Dixville Notch back in the late 80's. It was only about 50 yards in front of us, and there was no mistaking what it was. In the following days there were reports of sightings around Errol and over into Maine.
I have enough land to have a cave that the Bobcats have resided in for Generations. We're here in Connecticut we also see mountain lions and everyone at this point can tell the difference because there's Bobcats everywhere and every once in awhile a mountain lion is spotted
Are there any wolves in NH? I have heard of sightings in Vermont
No known confirmed sightings in my 50 years as a wildlife biologist in NH.
There are no wolf populations south of the St Lawrence. Eastern coyotes have ancestral wolf DNA, look a little like wolves, and are huge compared to western coyotes. Anyone who's "seen a wolf" in New England saw an Eastern Coyote.
@@zacharywiedner327 an animal ran in front of my car in Glen NH back around 2000 and I said to my girlfriend at the time.... that aint no coyote. SHe agreed and said there was wolf hybrid genes around here in the coyote.
@@curiousbystander9193 They can be shocking. The first time I saw one after spending years in the plains states (seeing little western coyotes all the time) was that it was a wolf. Thats actually why I know this, I was convinced I saw a wolf, researched it, and found out that coyotes up here are just BIG.
@@zacharywiedner327 Years ago I was around a shepherd wolf hybrid dog that was domesticated...... that dog was more similar to the dog I saw crossing the road than our idea of what coyotes look like.... this thing had longer legs, a bigger chest, a stronger nose and bigger head..like over 100 pounds anyway...never seen a 100 pound coyote..... you?
Great subject! I hope to see one here in NH some day.
i drive to Claremont NH 6 days a week to pickup the macglafflin dairy farms milk. several yrs ago i was heading south on rte 12 leaving charlestown ctr going through the "S" curve when crossing the road in front of me coming out of the woods on the left was what looked exactly like every picture of a female african lion. i stared at the side profile of the head as it proceeded to the fields on the right of the road. ( i presume heading for water in the river). it was the exact shape of an african lion...no bobcat ever looked like that and mountain lions to me are huge muscular bodies with smaller domestic like cat heads...this was neither. got to see it walk across in front of me for at least 20 seconds..
I think any mountain lion sightings are passersby from other regions - like Canada and the Midwest. As for boars and stuff (even mountain lions?), they could've escaped from Corbin Park. Maybe?
Thanks very much for giving us the timestamp in three second sentence!
I wish everyone would either say it, or at least put it in the description.
We saw one crossing Rt.16 in Ossipee by boulder farm four to five years ago in the late morning. It was certainly NOT a bobcat!
I saw one dead on the median of rt 93 about 25 yards from the turnaround the state police use for traffic observation just north of Concord. I was traveling south about 5 in the afternoon. It was laying dead on the slight slope to the right of the north bound breakdown lane. It was a dusky tan-gray with a tail about 3 feet long. The fur on the tail was bushy to the end. It was on it's side with 3 legs visible. It was too large to be a bobcat or lynx. Head to butt was at least as long as the tail. I was tempted to go back and take pictures. I'm guessing it was about 2008 or 2009.
About 2012 I watched a large cat having a late winter chase with a rabbit. The cat was probably a lynx. This was in Laconia. It was a field with matted down tall grass with some remnants of snow still in the shadows. That cat chased the rabbit for 15 minutes and never caught it. The rabbit kept ducking into brush and holes in the matted grass. I was close enough to see the cat had tufted ears, mostly one color with a lighter underbelly. The tail was just long enough to reach the ground while it was standing straight up. It was bigger than the bobcats I've seen. I did email NHF&G and they agreed it was probably a lynx as they'd seen a few moving southward.
Rt 91 in Massachusetts has had 2 confirmed mountain lion kills but they've attributed them to released pets.
I can tell you they are here too. Saw one dead on the side of Interstate 93 in Campton on July 4, 2022. No mistaking it. Cat like head with cupped ears and a long rope like tail. White belly. My guess is it weighed around 90 lbs. Why I didn’t pull over and take a picture of it I’ll never forgive myself. The local game warden later assured me it was a coyote or something else. Funny thing was when I drove by later that day it was gone. Funny how it got picked up on a national holiday when all the state NhDOT employees are off.
I know what I saw. No doubt about it. They are here.
This had been an ongoing coverup in NH for years. Why, I don’t really know.
I'm in Bristol they are here.
Yeah, we don't have any either in NY except in the Southern Tier just north and West of Binghamton up into Central NY. I saw 3 in my neighbors driveway standing by his Blazer just West of Syracuse, we both took pictures of them. We reported it to the DEC and talked to a couple people in the know, they stated that the Eastern Puma was native to the State but they told us they were very timid, the native people in the area called them Ghost Cats but none had been seen in the state for almost a century. About a year later a guy I worked with hit and killed one with his car near Victory, NY and low and behold it had a DEC ear tag. He reported it and the officer he talked to told him there was no such thing in the State until my buddy told him about the ear tag and gave him the number, he was told to expect an visit from a officer. The DEC Officer arrived within a little over an hour and confiscated the carcass. My buddy had photographed the cat extensively and the ear tag yet everyone in the State is still denying everything.
No way are all reports mistakes. I COULD accept NH saying “No breeding populations”, but nomads? Males travel hundreds of miles mate searching (see: Milton CT). Ontario has a healthy population. 🤷🏻♀️
Three years ago, at the school I worked at in Charlestown NH, I spotted a mountain lion at night under street lights. I got pretty close before it took off. Absolutely was a mountain lion, scared me pretty good, I love NH! Expanding Knowledge 🌎
Except it wasn’t lmao 😂
@@jswan2580 Really, then what? Come on late hear it!
I want so bad for them to confirm mountain lions in Massachusetts/ New England in general. My uncle has told me he has seen them in the Quabbin resivor MA. My cousin also seen one in that same area seen one plan as day in while she was on a picnic. I live in ware Ma n hope to catch a glimpse
They’ve been spotted out in hubbardston believe it or not
My girlfriend saw one in southeast ma (taunton area) some years back. I have no reason to doubt her. She is woods savy and not BS artist in any way. I myself have seen some wildlife that you would not think would be in a city enviorment in the late sixties and early seventies. And don't even get me started on how much more we see in the last ten years. Coyotes and bobcats in your back yard are a common thing now in the greater Boston area.
One crossed in front of me a few years ago in the month June around 1-2PM in the Oak Island area of Lake Winnipesaukee (Meredith NH). It had the gait & the long tail that curled upward.
Here in the Adirondacks I’ve spoken with 3 people who say they have seen a mountain lion, if they did it was probably the same one and maybe it was passing through because they are all in the same area and the sightings were around the same time. I’ve never seen one myself.
DON'T GO UP TO THE MOUNTAIN TOP WITHOUT ME (C)2006
In 2019 a black leopard or mountain lion crossing the road at raymond nh firestation in front of my truck. It took its dear time crossing, so i got a clear look at it . It was the size of a130 pound german shepard.
They have been spotted in massachusetts also.
Spotted along the river in Northfield, MA.
likewise in Michigan. the MDNR denies cougars are in the state despite numerous reported sightings especially in the northern part of the state! not so where I live now in New Mexico.
One stalked me in Jaffrey during 2018, and another ran across the street right in front of my car near Franconia Notch at 4-5 AM during 2019. It was right i front of my vehicle and had a 3 foot tail. Not a bobcat, they are weird looking. I heard a hunter saw one in the area of Franconia Notch where I saw it.
Probably not a mountain lion they move too much someone would get one on a trail cam
Was it around Cannon Mtn? We saw paw prints (not necessarily a mountain lion) deep in the woods by a cave in the early 2000s.
@@TheRandomINFJ Closer to the Twin Mountains as I was driving down Rte 3. Due to its color I thought it was a deer at first until it ran directly in front of my car, and I saw its 3 foot tail. There is no mistaken what is was because it ran right in front of me with my headlights on it. I have no idea why NH denies they are here.
Years ago now, my daughter and I most definitely saw one just north of Franklin. We were returning from Bristol on route 3A one late summer afternoon. It crossed the road in front of us and quickly darted behind a guard rail and down towards the Franklin dam. It was no bobcat. I even called Fish and Game, but was quickly shut down as to the possibility. But we definitely saw it. Including its tail it took up half the road.
Then several years later, (2009) while living in Bethlehem off Profile Rd, on the Franconia border, a tow truck driver (NH winters!) pointed out Mt lion footprints he noticed in the fresh snow by our driveway. They ARE cats after all, and good at stealth.
I live in Western Massachusetts and about 15 yrs ago I watched a Black Mountain Lion transversing a cow pasture behind my house from the west to east. When I tried to report it, the person called me a lair. "You did not see what you think you saw." I know what a Mt. Lion looks like and it was Black. ✌
But the Offical State response is " NH does not have Mountain Lions"
In 2010 while driving a gasoline tanker one ran across Rt93 south I was slowing down to get on RT302 in Bethlehem at about 2AM looked right at me and it had a long tail that curved up . Made the hairs on my neck stand up ! 😂😂😂
There are mountain lions that have been seen on game cameras, both still images and videos. The people that have these images are not and will not show them to anyone, especially the fish and game department.
put them on the net under a false identity
Why not show pics? I would.
I did wilderness work for numerous years in the 90's in NH and western Maine. A fellow I worked with whom had much more experience in the area told me the paw prints he'd seen numerous times in EVans Notch were definitely not bobcat. HArd to get more wilderness than that area up under Route 2.
My friend took a pic of a female in grafton ny, with her young, heading into the high weeds, long tail you can't mistake that face. the ny dec just has a laugh when mt.lion gets mentioned in New York. they are around they just dont want us to know their crafty like that. Respect to them from a distance.
Eric, Craig Laramie here. If you have any writings from my grandfather that you don’t want to get lost in time, I would love to get my hands on them!
I know if do have some moose files from him. Do you know he has wildlife management area named for him? I have my testimony of the hearings.
Feel free to contact me.
Years ago someone gave me a whole box of his Moose notes. I still have them upstairs in my garage. They are all yours.
You still around?
I’ve seen pictures on a deer cam in Rhode Island. Mountain lion had a five point deer in its mouth.
seen in jaffrey at the Shattuck CC
The only reason they're "NOT" in NH is not wanting the expense of managing them.
would be declared endangered species with all sorts ensuing regulations and restrictions.
Cougars come and go wherever they want to go.
Had a friend find a small doe carcass in a tree near ossipee
By the time you actually see one, it's already lunchtime, they see you, but you can't see them😮
Agree. Thank you for posting.
We have sightings here in north central mass not far from nh border ! 25 or so miles. We now have a lot of hunters etc w trail cams .. no saying it’s not. ..True.
Seeing how one was in goffstown WAY BACK in the years and confirmed and the range is so small (sarcasm on) they surely cant ever wander thru... lol
5 years too late- i was listening to a female mountain lion the other night calling for a mate, and then a couple nights later mading hellova row with coyotes maybe.....a couple hundred yards from a rhode island beach. apparently its not just new england- you might have a better chance seeing evidence of a mountain all up and down the eastern u.s. as in the west, including right up to the coast
We saw a mountain lion on our farm her in the western Catskills NY now several years ago, me and my wife, no mistake, tail and all. Not too far in time from the mountain lion killed in Connecticut. I was told something was wrong with me and since then I do not trust these officials. That this was the same mountain lion killed in Connecticut and traveling through my farm does not make sense to me. I am a sheep farmer and my worker said he saw a mountain lion and a few of my sheep had severe claw wounds on their hind quarters. I sent pictures to the appropriate officials but no response and I am convinced they have decided lying is the proper policy to deal with the public.
They are called "ghost cats" for a reason.
3:29 I seen in New Braintree MA in 2008
Yes they are they in Maine too
They are in Connecticut.
Contact Ware gun and rod club in MA. Their trail can caught a mountain lion in their archery range. I saw the picture first hand in 2013. It looked nothing like a bobcat
We know they have traveled long distance in recent years. Like from the Dakotas to Connecticut a decade ago. So not impossible. And actual pictures would be great to have. And there are now thousands of cameras that can capture them. But not likely a breeding population yet. They have continued to move eastward across the northern states for 40 years now. Plenty of deer for them to eat. Just need some females to move this way.
@@newhampshirefishandwildlif3434 I'm assuming NH wildlife officials have no plans to reintroduce mountain lions to the state?
@@robertfaucher3750 I don't think it has ever been considered.
Please show us the image.
Saw a young one in my driveway one night 😮
New England should reintroduce them to balance the exploding deer population.
The state of CT deep doesn't know everything they are in stafford springs we have seen them
so maybe the lion ate the bobcat ?
Lions are in the Northeast coming in from out west and also Canada
all these comments are proving his point ... "no way, I definitely saw one!" if in fact all these people saw mountain lions in NH out and about, they would be captured on trail cameras (or a clear picture/video at the time of sighting) time and time again - but there is none of that. you can be sure of what you saw, but that doesn't mean you're right. he summed it up best, there is a chance for a transient male or two to pass through, but there is no established population. we would know
There's no way in hell every mountain lion was gone in 1853.....
Yes it's fact they have been living in Maine for years
They are ABSOLUTELY in NH . I’ve seen them in Sanbornton NH
No you haven’t lmao 😂
My ex saw one in Mason NH
@@jswan2580 One was run over in Connecticut lol
@@jswan2580 bro y is it so hard to believe they are very discreet animals and have been spotted as far south as Massachusetts and Connecticut
@@dangang4927 dude I’m not lying when I say I wish so bad they were out there, but take it from someone who literally walks trails and is in the bush every week, if they where here we know about it, so many hunters,so many trail cam’s, I wish people appreciated real animals that are actually breeding And living in NH as much as fantasy one’s
They are there just like in upstate NY. Environmental Conservation reestablished them here.🤔
Carry a sidearm when hiking .
Jesus christ! You can walk across the whole state in 4 hours. The whole state of new hampshire is about the size of ohio state forest! The "County" that thinks it's a state!
Like the man said, there is no evidence of Mountain Lions in NH, only Bobcats... 💥
I’ve seen them.
New Hampshire is more interested in keeping the damn, tourists coming. If they admit to lions here, that' might slow down the gravey train. NH fish and game is a joke.
No Prints no fur no evidence.
I promise you I spend more time in the woods than most people.
I have criss crossed Northern New Hampshire Vermont and Maine all my life.
I'm a Hunter of moosesheds rockhound and gold prospector, I have spent thousands of hours in the New England woods.
I also lived out west for a few years. I saw and tracked many mountain lions especially in Utah.
I promise you what people are seeing their bobcats.
No way. There is a huge difference between the two.
Correct BK! Another old timer (NE native) here and lived out west - they are not here except maybe a very rare wanderer (like in CT).
Cause back then dna tests were a thing and very affordable 🙂
Even with trail cam pics n video the state still denies it so I send it out of state to be confirmed and then send it back to your state 😂
There are no wolves either. 😉
The State will never admit that there are mountain lions here because managing them would bankrupt them.
hmm...
I wish I had a dime for every city transplant who swears they saw a mountain lion. People swear they see ghosts too.
Also, in Michigan. Don't believe dnr
bottom line.... maybe. lol
Bull typical NH F&G
Until there is any physical evidence, You'd probably find Big Foot or the Loch Ness Monster first.
They are in Maine… far and in-between, but they’re here…