Prof JJ Tabane "The ANC is a shadow of what they were!"
Вставка
- Опубліковано 28 лют 2024
- This Episode is proudly sponsored by Pace Car Rental.
Specialists in both short and long term car rental, as well as cash car rental.
Book today : www.pacecarrental.co.za
Instagram: @pacecarrental
@FrankDialogue1
Join the Supporters Club!
/ @sonacoza
Book Mike Sham to speak at your event or function now!
Email: matthew@streamin.co.za
Follow us on TikTok, Twitter, and Instagram (@sonacoza) to stay up-to-date with the latest developments, bite-sized videos that inform and entertain. Behind-the-scenes moments, and exclusive content is also available!
Filmed and Produced at Stream In Studios "Where Production Matters"
www.streamin.co.za/en
Join our vibrant community and be part of the conversation!
For a long time this channel felt like a DA funded propaganda channel, but I have to admit, Mike has won me over this year by bringing in people who differ with him.
well the host like many liberals never holds the DA accountable
Not sure if it's DA funded,but Mike does stand for the DA in everything he does.
For as long as they haven't invited Mr Malema to me this is just a corporate funded Oppenheimer baby. They invite some of the people who may differ from this guy just to legitimize this thing otherwise how can you call a voted party a cult but those who eats the state money and protect each other you say they aren't a cult(ANC)
Numbers don't lie, this podcast is sitting on low views with so many videos, this shows that people aren't vibing with it
It's my first time coming across this channel and can see that the host is a full DA rep 😂😂😂
The interviewer can feel it that this is not Prince Mashele ,here is someone who says the truth about SA election and politics even if you don't like it.
"Politicians are always judged by their intentions and not their bad results" - Thomas Sowell
Prof.Tabane has a good balanced outlook on the real issues on the table. We need more people like him.
I came to say this.
Brilliant. So great to listen to.
Prof Tabane, you are really gifted and understand the current political situation in our Country. You are straight forward with the truth, the challenge is how many South Africans hear you and understand the challenges the country is in today because of corruption. God bless and protect South Africa. Pule Tsosa
JJ is bloody brilliant! Love this guy - super level headed!
Agree he is brilliant but has very bad faults as well against certain people
I always enjoy listening to JJ Tabane. He always speaks so much sense without fear or favour. Always blatantly honest.
But lately he is vomiting diarrhea
I like his idea of fixing the country with knowledgeable people in every area !!What an exciting idea! Imagine what the country will look like !!
The ending was very interesting. It summarises the host and any hidden agenda. J.J notices this too
I am the host and my agenda is definitely not hidden. In fact I explain my agenda in almost every episode:
- I am not funded by anyone
- I believe in the future of South Africa
- I believe in free markets (even socialist countries end up free market countries through the black market - Cuba, USSR)
- I believe in the stability of property rights
- I have so much faith in the creativity, entrepreneurialism and intellect of black South Africans that I don't believe that they need to be held back by any politician telling them that they need BEE
- I believe that big companies want to keep small companies out of business by creating barriers to entry like BEE and other forms of red tape
- I believe that South Africans can make their own decisions and don't need to be told what to do by a cult leader
I like what you are saying, however, your approach is wrong and would only benefit people who are already privileged. Those who are under privileged will not benefit anything because the status quo has not changed. YTo take a capitalist approach you must first have ownership of your economy - South Africa is not in that position. We have nothing to capitalise on. Secondly, we need to break apart existing systems that only serve the needs of whites, this is a reality. Banking sector is pro-white and therefore, these entrepreneurs you speak of, only white people Will benefit from any funding. Thirdly, you cannot deny the fact that the majority is unemployed. We therefore need to ensure that the majority is provided with equal opportunities for employment and economic growth. Lastly, the apartheid government nationalised all crucial sectors of the economy, why can’t we do that now? Don’t tell me about “cult leaders”, no need to call names because you don’t understand what is being presented 🙄
Prof you really know your politics. I hope that politicians are listening with grave energy.
Thank you.
This two gentlemen should formally do a podcast together at least once a month. I love this episode.
Thank you for talking the truth about these people that are suppose to work for us--the taxpayers that are paying their big salaries!! The nation is getting very tired of them, they must go
I have always been a fan of JJ. He is exceptionally knowledgeable and level headed. He is not scared to tackle the hard issues and comes accross as impartial and unaligned to a particular party.
So many of these YT channel hosts can come across aligned to a specific part and drive a specific agenda. On JJ's show, he doesnt do that.
Im fairly new to Mike's show and similar to Biznews i felt that it was too aligned to either the DA or not impartial enough.
However, both channels are now interviewing people with different perspective. JJ being a case in point, which is a positve sign.
For these channels to succeed, we need impartial hosts. Ask the hard questions but do not let your own views take over the interview. South Africans d9 not want propoganda. We want neutrality and facts. Our politicians need to be held accountable across the board, regardless of party.
Jj keeps telling us "they have a good heart" we dont give a damn about their hearts
Enjoyable conversation. I like Tabane, he is a force. As for the EFF I think they are going to do better than ever before
Eff will NEVER EVER get above 12% . Not in MY LIFETIME!
U will change colour, when you realise that it doesn't depend on what your wishes are, the EFF is a well oiled machine for your info.😂😂
@@Godisgood1980SA😂😂😂 I wish to know where you live and have the EFF takeover your municipality... in your lifetime.
@@patriotickoppiesjiyanaI see the EFf getting 15% of the vote.
While I find myself often disagreeing with your perspectives, also feeling they lean too heavily towards the DA's stance, I appreciate how you can bring in people who oppose your views. It’s this openness to diverse discussions that keeps me engaged and coming back for more.
We will keep the diversity flowing. All we want to do is to help South Africa succeed for all of us!
JJ Thabani is the absolute best. Brilliant mind and opinions.
Prof. J J Tabane I completely agree with you Sir 100%
I don't care about colour. If the party voted into power treats everyone equally, cares about the citizens and takes care of the country, they get my vote. So far, none impress me.
The problem is...if you win elections now u may have to spend more resources in tembisa than sandton. There are people who need services more than the other so it cant be the same. The problem is...someone in the surbubs cries when the eff says they will not fight for white people because they are mostly sorted...but its the truth.
My first time to come across this channel. . . .I like the fact that the host is asking right questions. . . .I was glued from start to finish. . . .Subscriber earned.
Thank you for the kind words. We will do our best to keep asking the right questions!
Proff J Tabane well done too you spoke the truth and were spectacular to listen 😃👍
Prof Tabane is spot on one of the major downfall of the oldest liberation movement in Africa (ANC) is Arrogance.
criminals always get caught out when their greed gets out of control
Thank you sona both of you were so brilliant and very civilized on critics, I salute you guys you program was the best. I wish we can learn on how we express views with respect
The problem is we have Alot of people from ANC Eff Mk etc who do not want south africa to be fixed, many benifit from the chaos of south africa there WILL be alot of pushback
How dare you dont mention racist DA
I think you are 100% right unfortunately, people won't listen coz they hate the truth
Why did All this parties started?
they all saw that ur Anc is failing South African ppl.
What do u mean these parties do not want SA to be fixed
who destroyed SA ???
ANC
You're 💯 correct, couldn't have said it better.They don't care,the more chaos, the more chances of benefitting through corruption.
Exactly! It is such a messed up, twisted system! And us tax payers are the ones who suffer
Thank you Prof. Tibane!! 🙌🙌🙌
The host picked a side and that side is not EFF because wow!!!. 😂😂
Racist chest pain raising it's ugly head but it's nothing JJ can't fix.
He always underestimate them.
I think rather hates than underestimates. Thanks JJ for trying to call him to order. We are looking forward to EFF government.
JJ must be one of the best journalists we have at the moment. His analysis is spot on. I love this guy.
Informative and enjoyable interview. I’m pretty sure that Prof JJ knows where lots of the bodies are buried, so his insight and opinion is pretty valuable.
Is there a book written by JJ Tabane? I would love it. I can listen to him the whole day and always learn a lot.
JJ my man.Briliant and well informed. Always talk power to truth.
Mike will b one of the people who will have chest pains when the EFF gets 49% percent these national elections. Fighters here is one more point to prove. We go we go😊.
Good lord, I got chest pains just seeing the EFF and 49% in the same sentence! I am sure that I will survive.
Just boggles my mind that people would vote for the EFF. I appreciate the anger of the limited progress under 30yrs of ANC rule but having the EFF in government would only accelerate the road to disaster. They couldn’t run a small shop let alone a modern economy. We need to grow the economy to lift the lives of all, we need competent experienced people at the wheels. The eff would destroy the country, If you can’t see that please educate yourself
JJ listen to your guy when he talks about EFF.... go na le bothata mo 😂😂😂
For real!!!😂
He hates the EFF and couldn't even hide it....
Hallelujah! Jesus said He is taking out all the corrupt governments and those who aid them 😊 JESUS IS NOT A MAN THAT HE SHOULD LIE. HE HAS THE PEOPLE HE PICKED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF SA, PRAISE THE LORD.
GLORY BE TO GOD. PRAY THESE CROOKS AWAY!!!
Well done, gents.
Very insightful! Love the quote about justice!
Much love from Namibia 🇳🇦🇳🇦🇳🇦🤍
Hi to all of you.....
ME AS A PARENT ASK NICE...
I SEE A FEW OF MY FOLLOWERS HAVE THEIR KIDS IN SCHOOL CLOTHES ON THEIR P. Picture....
PLEASE ALL OF YOU.... TAKE DOWN THOSE PHOTOS BECAUSE YOU MAKE YOUR KIDS THE TARGET... THEY SEE WHERE THE KID IS GOING TO SCHOOL AND TAKE THAT PICTURE DOWN AND THEN GO LOOK FOR THE KIDS AT THE SCHOOL..... Please share it with all of you...
Finally. Someone gets it. Do away with politics and politicians. Administration of a country shouldn't be a competition and that is what politics does. Creates a body of people who only competes with other parties to get votes to stay in power. That's all. People are not toys but politicians see them as such
Great discussion. This was engaging and informative
Thank you for the comment.
Incredible interview definitely worth a subcription
Thank you so much for allowing us to attract your attention. There is much more to come.
Great discussion
Thank you
I enjoy listening to JJ, I see him voting for EFF, he always defends them everytime he is given an opportunity
The rain in our area stopped the week the ANC took Israel to court. Now they have a crisis committee to pay cadre salaries to discuss the weather😂
Israel where jews from europe invaded land
Brilliant man, Vey objective, thanks Mike for this interview.
Thank you and keep watching. Much more to come.
We are very lucky to have JJ he is so intelligent
I agree, he is a legend.
Well done!!
JJ 👏👏never disappoint
I’m so glad Jj J was here to challenge the host who obviously has his own agendas here and is not objective.
However, DR JJ unfortunately also has his own agenda
The host can be realy sarcastic. 🤦🏽♀️
@@mythoughts5170JJ is a guest. He was invited to share his thoughts
I invite guests to have their own views and I ask questions about those views. This is not an attempt to get everyone to agree with me, although it would be nice.
@@mikesham3204 we have seen you go on and on when no one disagrees with you , it’s not objective . It’s shows your bias .
What a great interview..❤
"Does it matter where his heart is" ? Good question 👍
morality is necessary in leadership
Great interview thank you 🎉
Thank you for your kind words. We have a lot more planned.
Who ever thought EFF can be where it is today so expect unexpected unless IEC can be biased but with free and fare elections EFF is going to make history
I keep on telling people that the problems that we are facing,will not be resolved by politicians but we need an alternative.
Been saying to most of my Joburb friends that Action SA is a regional party that will only compete in Gauteng. We don't see their presence in other provinces.
I know that they have been very active in the Eastern Cape, Free State, North West and Limpopo. We will wait and see.
JJ Tabane can sing! I like it!
JJ YOU ARE THE BEST.
JJ was spot on! Ive said; he is a brilliant minded man.
The host so desperate to dismiss EFF 🤣🤣🤣
I saw that too🤦🏽♀️
I do not dismiss the EFF. I think that they perform an important role in removing the radicals from the ANC. I do not like their policies at all because it will lead SA down the same road as Venzuela and Zimbabwe. If you are happy with that future than you know what you to do on 29 May. I will be doing something different.
I dont know why. And they never learn. When eff was formed they said it will not get 2%. Hai
@@mikesham3204we dont expwct you to like their policies. We know why...and we are used to that. Eff will do better despite your emotions and hate. Deal with it.
@@mikesham3204 it's obvious sir , don't worry we get u, not many elders agree with educated youngsters due to their own fears n afraid of change ! Mugabe was old so ur comparison doesn't stand ! but I get ur fear though !
Well said JJ!!
JJ is taking over or running this interview 🇿🇦🙏🙏🙏🙏🧡
Hy didn't you ask about what happened to cope?
Hi jj. Please contact me asap about the land theft by anc led givern under false pretence. The issue involve goedgevonden ,welgevonden and nagel trust land.
JJ Tabane my favourite
JJ - Brilliant
The multi party charter was a good idea. JJ is a dreamer to think a coalition will just fall into place. Especially when he visualizes that the EFF should be included. When is there ever co operation with EFF? Where, is there a coalition that is working well with EFF included? And was this interview done before the emergence of MK??
EFF poisons everything
I agree with your view on the multi party charter, but my guests are invited to give their views. This was done after MK but neither of us think that they will be much of a factor.
Eff was doing well with Mashaba in jhb. The problem is that eff pushes its policies and these useless parties dont want that raducalism.
What a great podcast well analysis ✅✅✅
Thank you for your kind words, we will keep them coming.
Mike met his match! Asbonge!🙌🏽🥰
I can never compete with the one and only Mr JJ Thabane!
@@mikesham3204 good for you.
This is a Moonshot Pact Podcast bro
And khaya FM is an EFF podcast/ show. So what ? You often comment out of spite rather than offer something of substance. A coalition is coming either way , as a young white South African bro I’m really not worried even if EFF enters into power within that coalition because at least they will hold the ANC to account going forward.
I've once listened to Umhlobo Wenene FM and they played a speech of Malema. Why not play a speech by Steenhuisen? Because they are biased! Unfortunately, most media platforms pick sides.
I don't disguise my views on the best route for SA. The Multi Party Charter is about the best option that we have going.
I sympathize with your view.
Mike can you please interview OHM. I saw The 360 Experience interview Lauren and I decided within minutes to vote for them. Nobody is addressing the elephant in the room which is that the political system is the cause of everything that’s wrong in South Africa. Without system change there will be no change. We need to put democracy in the hands of South Africans and not in the hands of political parties and their donors. Are we so used to what politics has become that we can’t see that there is another way?
Mike, you didn't finish your predictions. You stopped at EFF. What do you think Action SA, IFP, PA and FFplus will get?
I think Action SA 4%, IFP 5%, PA 2%, FF+ 4%, BOSA 2%, Rise 2%, MK 1%
@@mikesham3204 But I think ActionSA will surpass 6% mark..
@@latesttrends9942 I would be happy with that!
Rats and mice
Jj should get into politics, he is so knowledgeable and he is outspoken with good principles and values. He would be an asset to the people
You got it JJ...👍
I like how JJ challenged the host on the EFF being a cult. That argument is always just comparison and never takes into account the kind of party the EFF is and how good Malema is at his job.
Marxist Leninist ideology is a cult
Objectivity. I mean eff is run very well. Doesnt matter if its a cult or what.
JJ Tabane is true African and loves his black people.
Cadre deployment is problematic, it's a Russian concept and it has not even worked that well there. In fact, if you looked at the report on the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, Cadre deployment caused the problem. The man at the top was appointed by the Communist party and was not technical in the least. Worst of all, he did not want to make decisions that he thought might cause him to lose his position. He refused to listen to the engineers who had many years of hand's on experience, so time ran out before he made a decision and the reactor exploded. A major disaster that could have been avoided.
On paper they are finnished. But they planned a lot of scenarios to come out on top. Look at the ampunt of sigantures needed to be represented nationally.
The infomerciaifr 😂❤
There is hope..Great hope...makes my hair raise..🫶🏽👌🏼
🤞
What happened to Ace's party..?
Folded into Zuma’s MK with its 5 members.
This is eye opening statement if there is non something is fishing excuses
I will come back to this interview after 29 May 2024...especially about the EFF getting 12% and the DA maintaining 20% mark.
12% never. At least close to 20%. Ppl use emotions when it comes to eff
We're voting EFF in numbers, no fear mongering tactics from the host will work here.
Lol another minion
Only foreigners voting fir EFF
@@Coco-kw3iv 1.8 million people voted for the EFF in the 2019 elections. This year the EFF will get 4 million + votes, and there's nothing you can do. Expropriation of land without compensation will happen.
U a foreigner
@@janomesteve3129 Foreigners are white settlers, I am an African who'll vote for the EFF wether you like it or not.
Very interesting. The other guy seems to worried and always down play EFF. HE IS SO OBSESSED with CLOWNERS like Rise umzansi. To be honest, your Action SA, Rise and many other CLOWNERS are just for some kind of many making schemes. ...
You may be right, we will see in May
EFF is a money making scheme😂
He says they have structures😂😂 not sure if Oppenheimer funding translates to structures.
@@MrLechesa Funding definitely translates to structures. Just look how Julius has use Mazzotti money to create structures. Branches, tee shirts and stadium rentals are expensive.
@@mikesham3204 That's your problem. You know very well that Mazzotti only paid for the registration of the party. That's in no way a structure. Nonetheless, Renting a stadium or buying T shirts is Not a structure.
Structures is having formal Ward based branches with ELECTED leaders and programmes of Action. EFF even goes as far as having Voting District Election Task Force Conveners and Coordinators. Those are structures. Actual representatives. "Ground Forces" as they are usually called. EFF exists in every Ward and VD in the country. From rural Limpopo to Blouberg in Cape Town. They have democratically ELECTED representatives. Not appointees
How many branches does BOSA or ActionSA have in Western Cape? Nevermind in Rural EC. Those parties will do nothing but eat into DA's constituency.
Having money for posters is not having structures.🤣
Your understanding of Politics is usually misguided by your hate and fear for EFF Mike. Leave emotions out of your work. You're a smart guy, you can do much better.
Was this recorded before the establishment of MK?
In one of the Podcast....Proff Tabane said Pres Ramaphosa is going to resign but he failed to elaborate on that note....
He did, he said he was tired.
I subscribed because of the name "state of the nation" 🔥 🔥
Thank you for subscribing. We have a lot of great content in store for you!
I really like listening to this guy JJ because he thinks he know and it actually facts. He doesn't and you can pick that up by listening closely to how he argues. He is also very bias towards the EFF, whilst very careful with the ANC
This interview was one of the best SON . Mike was a little bit Bias on he's comments and question But jJ educated Mike well .
JJ Thabane is a legend. I am honoured to be educated by him.
Timestamps will help.. so we dont have to sit though an hour rather just click on the subjects we want
Good idea, we are working on it.
Eff will shock alot of People
we are already shocked: at the animal behaviour!
Let them choose to be in denial 😂😂, it won't change the facts😂😂
@@expose_massive_banking_crimecall them whatever you want...but facts remain.
@@roskydk7174A clear indication that democracy doesn't work because nobody can police the idiot who puts up his hand to vote.
Prof JJ Tabane always on point . I can tell the host is a DA supporter 😂
it's obvious !
Lavish lifestyle, corruption, cader deployment is all ANC is concerned about not what South Africans.
Mine is
ANC 43
DA. 29
ACTIONSA 18
EFF 5
Great we need change
It's always nice taking a break from the DA propaganda, really enjoyed this
Thank you so much and so much more to come.
Coalition means a directionless country because the parties coming together were not pulling in the same direction. The government of National Unity would be just a temporary stall. Things may stabilize slightly, but how long would that GNU last and whose direction will the country follow afterwards? Any benefits accrued during GNU cannot be attributed to any of the participants in the GNU.
If you go and look at the coalition it will work. They already sort out their problems and adopt a model to get the country working again.
If the current coalitions are anything to go by, it’s going to be a mess. A government of national unity will have a shelf life like a coalition but can at least look at the big ticket items that multi parties can find consensus on eg energy security, unemployment, healthcare and education. The biggest stumbling block will be who will lead to many egos and vested interests. The political parties will not agree to an outsider like the former CJ Mogoeng Mogoeng to lead.
Coalitions are not a choice, they will be a reality of no single party getting an outright majority. Coalitions can be very unstable or they can be highly productive. Most of Europe is run by coalitions and I doubt if a coalition in SA can be as bad the job done by the ANC.
I Wonder if this Top People Including Cyril Listen to this kind of helpful advice please i wonder?
Loved your guest..not too keen on his electoral predictions.
Is Democracy still what is needed in South Africa