Hey Drex, big fan of the channel, you’ve taught me nearly everything I know so thank you, I have been going to a local poi school in Portland Oregon and I’ve been showing your poi tutorials to everyone so thanks for the content it’s helped us learn new moves for our termly performances!
Unfortunately I bought the led pois as my first set lol and I’m soooo lost! But I’ve been watching your videos for a month trying to get this! Thank you for sharing the videos are super helpful!!
This is all very beneficial. I didnt know that zero points were stalls. Your videos are amazing literally and so thankful you are making them. I love poi so much and continue to be inspired to learn new tricks. I first started my poi journey trying to convert hoop moves to poi and that does not work all the time. I have learned that not all poi moves can be converted to hoop tricks.
This video need timestamps. Here you go. You're welcome. 00:00 - Intro 02:15 - 1. Poi Planes 03:41 - 2. Timing & Direction 05:55 - 3. Plane Facing 07:39 - 4. Zero Points 08:59 - A favor to ask 09:31 - 5. Poi Lanes 10:50 - Summary 11:08 - For more information 11:31 - Outro and credits
So for the lanes, do you always use your right arm for the "inside lane", or do you find it easy to switch for your left arm for an inner lane when you need it?
(I've only been spinning for about a year or so, and I can't say I know too much so- take some of what I'm about to say with a grain of salt lol) From my understanding when it comes to lanes, I believe it depends on what trick you're preforming, and where you're preforming it relative to yourself. For example, when you're doing a two petal in-spin flower in together/same, the petal to your left will have your left hand on the inner lane, and your right hand on the outer lane. And it's the opposite for the other side. That seems to be a typical standard; where the hand that's reaching across your body is the one on the outside. When it comes to tricks that are preformed more in the center though, I don't believe it matters too much for the most part. Look at butterflies for example; it doesn't seem to matter which hand is on top. Same for if you were doing an anti-spin flower pattern that met in the middle. As long as the poi get by, it doesn't seem to matter. However, if it helps, I notice that spinners like to put their more dominant hand on the outside. Probably because it feels more comfortable, controllable, and intuitive that way. Anyway, hope this helps!
The plane facing really clicked when thinking about the poi relative to the world rather than myself. Kind of the good old, "the enemy gate is down" mindset
Definitely! It still shocks me that there wasn't a word for this until late 2000s/early 2010s. Like...this is one of the first things we all learn and nobody had thought to put a name to it before then! 😂
I seem to pick up a gentle criticism of focusing so strongly on wall plane - is that right, Drex? In your choreos I see you switching around between planes quite a bit, and with a lovely fluidity. In my own first steps into poi dance the idea of sticking to wall plane as much as possible does feel somewhat restrictive and limiting, but then, it's very much early days and I'm still lacking in experience, and coming from a dance form that tends to cover a lot of ground...
No criticism intended on my part-I think that was a something of a byproduct of the proliferation on online video. Flattening poi into wall plane reads incredibly well on video-the audience gets the profile of the poi that maximizes volume and hides any sloppiness we may have in our plane bending technique. There’s a reason toroids were so hard to make look good when they first experienced popularity: nobody had been training their bends cleanly, so techniques based completely around them came out looking really sloppy. I will say that I both adhere to the “everything is wall plane” school of performance that we’ve been in since Nick Woolsey essentially turned everything into flowers, but I do also make very deliberate choices to break out of this convention on a regular basis and I like to think that’s part of what makes my style unique. As you can see in my performance videos, I’m just as comfortable performing in a truly 3D environment and I don’t think that’s typical of modern poi spinners.
@@DrexFactor Thank you for taking the time for such a detailed answer, I appreciate it! What you say makes a lot of sense, and I do enjoy the 3D angle of your approach.
That is the usual behavior of all such algorithms. It suggests content it knows you like to keep you engaged, but sometimes it makes a „leap“ and suggedts something completely different, in case there is other content that keeps you even more engaged. Jaron Lanier described it nicely in his book „10 arguments for deleting your social media accounts“. And yes, I get the irony that I mention the book on youtube. 😉
Hey Drex, big fan of the channel, you’ve taught me nearly everything I know so thank you, I have been going to a local poi school in Portland Oregon and I’ve been showing your poi tutorials to everyone so thanks for the content it’s helped us learn new moves for our termly performances!
Sure thing! Glad my content is being of such great use! 😃
The term „plane facing“ was new to me. I really like how you explain the concepts in a simple, understandable fashion!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate hearing that!
You are so good. True inspiration.
Unfortunately I bought the led pois as my first set lol and I’m soooo lost! But I’ve been watching your videos for a month trying to get this! Thank you for sharing the videos are super helpful!!
dudeeee thank you so much . plz never stop
This is all very beneficial. I didnt know that zero points were stalls. Your videos are amazing literally and so thankful you are making them. I love poi so much and continue to be inspired to learn new tricks. I first started my poi journey trying to convert hoop moves to poi and that does not work all the time. I have learned that not all poi moves can be converted to hoop tricks.
Glad to help clarify things!
This video need timestamps. Here you go. You're welcome.
00:00 - Intro
02:15 - 1. Poi Planes
03:41 - 2. Timing & Direction
05:55 - 3. Plane Facing
07:39 - 4. Zero Points
08:59 - A favor to ask
09:31 - 5. Poi Lanes
10:50 - Summary
11:08 - For more information
11:31 - Outro and credits
Cool! Thanks!
I love the trick done at 10:13 and 10:47. What is it called?
That's called an Isolation! I have other tutorials on how to perform them: ua-cam.com/video/2GZACQink24/v-deo.html
He's baaaaack!
So for the lanes, do you always use your right arm for the "inside lane", or do you find it easy to switch for your left arm for an inner lane when you need it?
(I've only been spinning for about a year or so, and I can't say I know too much so- take some of what I'm about to say with a grain of salt lol)
From my understanding when it comes to lanes, I believe it depends on what trick you're preforming, and where you're preforming it relative to yourself. For example, when you're doing a two petal in-spin flower in together/same, the petal to your left will have your left hand on the inner lane, and your right hand on the outer lane. And it's the opposite for the other side. That seems to be a typical standard; where the hand that's reaching across your body is the one on the outside. When it comes to tricks that are preformed more in the center though, I don't believe it matters too much for the most part. Look at butterflies for example; it doesn't seem to matter which hand is on top. Same for if you were doing an anti-spin flower pattern that met in the middle. As long as the poi get by, it doesn't seem to matter.
However, if it helps, I notice that spinners like to put their more dominant hand on the outside. Probably because it feels more comfortable, controllable, and intuitive that way.
Anyway, hope this helps!
The plane facing really clicked when thinking about the poi relative to the world rather than myself. Kind of the good old, "the enemy gate is down" mindset
Definitely! It still shocks me that there wasn't a word for this until late 2000s/early 2010s. Like...this is one of the first things we all learn and nobody had thought to put a name to it before then! 😂
I’m surprised you didn’t use the weaves as an example for split same
It’s easier to visualize the difference with flowers!
I seem to pick up a gentle criticism of focusing so strongly on wall plane - is that right, Drex? In your choreos I see you switching around between planes quite a bit, and with a lovely fluidity. In my own first steps into poi dance the idea of sticking to wall plane as much as possible does feel somewhat restrictive and limiting, but then, it's very much early days and I'm still lacking in experience, and coming from a dance form that tends to cover a lot of ground...
No criticism intended on my part-I think that was a something of a byproduct of the proliferation on online video. Flattening poi into wall plane reads incredibly well on video-the audience gets the profile of the poi that maximizes volume and hides any sloppiness we may have in our plane bending technique. There’s a reason toroids were so hard to make look good when they first experienced popularity: nobody had been training their bends cleanly, so techniques based completely around them came out looking really sloppy. I will say that I both adhere to the “everything is wall plane” school of performance that we’ve been in since Nick Woolsey essentially turned everything into flowers, but I do also make very deliberate choices to break out of this convention on a regular basis and I like to think that’s part of what makes my style unique. As you can see in my performance videos, I’m just as comfortable performing in a truly 3D environment and I don’t think that’s typical of modern poi spinners.
@@DrexFactor Thank you for taking the time for such a detailed answer, I appreciate it! What you say makes a lot of sense, and I do enjoy the 3D angle of your approach.
Hoe did you get your video to be brought to my attention. Do you pay youtube extra?
I did not pay UA-cam anything. As to how I got you attention, I guess my thumbnail and/or title were good? 🤷♂️
That is the usual behavior of all such algorithms. It suggests content it knows you like to keep you engaged, but sometimes it makes a „leap“ and suggedts something completely different, in case there is other content that keeps you even more engaged. Jaron Lanier described it nicely in his book „10 arguments for deleting your social media accounts“. And yes, I get the irony that I mention the book on youtube. 😉