I saved money for quite some time and decided to buy a black amg sport plus package c250 facelift of this model. It has panoramic roof, black leather, updated media iTS RAW. 18 inch amg double spoke rims ... one of the best decisions i made. Really love and enjoy this car!
@@natea.lockheart4501 Bad, currently about 22 MPG. Ive got to take it in to a shop. Ive got a problem with either air/fuel mixture or spark plugs/coil packs, although mine has been heavily modified with a custom/BMS intake, diverter valve, large intercooler, exhaust, etc..
One major flaw with the W204 (and some other Mercedes models) is that the rear subframe is prone to corrosion. Fortunately, this should be covered by the corrosion warranty which as recently been extednded to 20 years in the US (it is 30 years in Europe) so all such affected W204s should be covered at the time of writing (11th July 2023). My own 2009 C200 had the rear subframe replaced under warranty. Aside from this the W204 is great car.
@@leosanta-ana4997 it’s a good car, what do you think about the c350 model reliability , it’s a 6 cylinder 2008, I am projecting to buy one but I am concerned about their reliability!
Damn you have my dream car! Literally the reason i got a coupe c250. Was told the c350 engine is unreliable and i wanted the coupe so i got the 4 banger lol
@@jeff346 2008, been driving it for 3yrs now, i love the car alot, you cant compare benz to any other car.. I repaired the transmission, got one year guarantee, it got faulty again in less than 1yr.. Mileage is 130,000 km
Looking at buying a 2013 2.1 c220 cdi. Was interested to know what current owners think, and what to look out for in terms of tear jerking faults. Many thanks for any offerings it really is appreciated. 👍👍
I bought my 2012 C300 Sport package in 2014 with 20,000 miles. Now have 97,000 miles. Overall great car. Have had to replace brake pads/rotors, heater fan motor, steering lock failed (very common) worst thing is the rear subframe rusted out. Expensive to fix but just recently, MBUSA is covering the subframe under warranty. Oh, and the cheap leatherette interior was a letdown. The seat bottoms come apart at the seams. I replaced them for about $350. The car is sure footed on the road, rides great, handles great. My daughter drives it now and loves it.
The leather itself holds up well, but be careful with jeans-they are prone to tearing at the seam. Unfortunately, replacing this with a genuine Mercedes part is outrageous. Like, 50% current market value of the vehicle outrageous. I got a knock off and you initially couldn't even tell a difference, but now (1 year later), it is evident that the drivers seat is shiny and worn in, while the others are as matte and taught as the day the vehicle left the showroom.
@@PuffPuffPlay You’re taking out of your ass, the C300 has the M276 engine shared with the C350. It’s one of Mercedes’ most reliable engines and is considered bulletproof with the right maintenance
@@n52gremlin15 they are not considered bulletproof, they are. Everything on a Mercedes will go long before the engine. There is a reason why in Europe the taxi they use are Mercedes.
Best tip take a model starting from 2012 and choose between c200 and c300 avoid the c250 the other ones are way more reliable especially the 200 diesel that one will get you 1million kilometerz
Guys I got a 2014 Mercedes c250. Beautiful car excellent on gas and a great credit builder for a 40k car now worth 13k at around 60,000 miles. Only problem is the throttle response and turbo lag. If your willing to spend an extra 600-1000$ & buy performance parts you wouldn’t know your driving a 4 cylinder!!! Happy I bought the car.
@@irvxing That is correct, I totally forgot about that one. I did however order a replacement....just have yet to install it. Hopefully I beat that disaster.
I had steering lock issue on c280 2008 at 75k miles, had it replaced with emulator so no longer functions. I also have an issue where the driver side lights will stay on after turning off. Sometimes they flicker so I don’t notice, I don’t want to fork out more money so I just have to turn them on/off and that solves it.
Get the engine number & check that it doesn't fit in the range of the early m272's with balance shaft failures. That's one of the biggest if not the biggest thing to look out for along with the history of the tranny services.
@@dr_bre dude… it’s so annoying when you’re in a hurry and the display shows you that your pressures are down (AGAIN!). Changed my tires and i still get the message on the same one lol. I’m sure it’s something to do with my rims but it’s an expensive fix for now
@@madoba8717 as a German i know that we get overboard sometimes with accuracy with things we create or do.😂🤌🏾.. the car just wants to perform at it’s best and the sensor is way too sensitive ( is your car empty/ is it loaded/ hot or warm temperatures??!) but you can imagine that a tiny loss of pressure ( which always happens) want or shouldn’t put you in a life threatening position. My guess is to find a way to block that tire sensor, instead of changing your wheel setup… in my case, I just don’t care about the tire pressure pop up on my display. Thanks for your response Mado BA
Main reasons to not buy this c250 is because I needed to get the cam adjusters replaced right off the bat at 70k miles bought it at 50k miles at 99k miles my high pressure fuel pump which is covered by warranty went out my srs airbag light came on due to the clock spring. My door handle broke they quoted 1k!!!!! Insanely ridiculously Mercedes. Bought it and instantly regretted it after 2 years of having it had it for 3 years and it became useless junk my horn didn’t even work.
Thank you for this. I just looked at a 2010 c350 with 90k miles in steel grey metallic, it has literally every single option which was available at the time. Where do you find that list of available options sheets
LGND that sounds exactly like my car lol. I don’t know where to get the option sheets because mb gave me them with the car. I have a 2014 c350 4matic with 94k miles.
@@bobespnza-la7030 just sold the car last month for 16,000 to the dealership. Traded it in for a 2017 glc 43. Very little cost of maintenance on the c350. I loved that car. Nothing broke at all.
@@23dunmc I found one of Carvana with all service records on CARFAX . All done at its respected MB dealership too. It’s priced at $16k and have ~47k miles. Thinking about it. 2014 C350 sedan. Fully loaded
Misses the other common issues to look out for or be mindful of... -Transmission modules can malfunction on facelift gen. -Pre facelift cam and magnet sensors leaks to watch out for, similar to everything on the w211 except the fuel pump.. For now... -The takata air bag recall for both to make sure is done or if was inquired to a wait-list at any local dealers to replace...
C200 w204. Jan 2012. Water pump changed at 47.000 kms in warranty. Again, water pump leaking at 113.000 kms, 401€. Clima malfunction, 134.000 kms. SAM board replaced. 850€. Reason? Too old.... as per MB dealer words. 8 years, a MB too old? OMG !!! All maintenance intervals and inspections done at MB dealers workshop. 2021 May update: Clima a/c issues are the same as before changing the SAM board card, after driving only 2000 kms. MB dealer changed the sensor 15 days ago and after driving half a hour, we had to comeback to the workshop as the problem was still the same. Now, may 25th the dealer says the problem resides in the compressor !!! Come on Mercedes….. where are your skills and know how?
Why are you going to a Mercedes dealership for repairs when any mechanic that works on European cars will do the work for less then half the price, and they will do a much better job
@@Fatkidlovecake Not so easy, I’m afraid. As per my long experience in the automotive market, at least in Spain and I’m 72 years old, these kind of cars cannot repaired by any mechanic, and good skilled mechanics are really missing. Most of them, merely try to solve the problem by changing parts and “guessing”….. because they lack the specific tools to attend serious issues of modern cars. At least, when repairing at MB workshops I get the confidence that any of their workshops, even in other country, will attend warranty repairs. Two weeks ago, being in France, a MB service attended me at cero cost to diagnose and solve a problem with the Becker gps malfunction which was previously badly updated by another MB service in Spain 3 months ago. However, this MB car is a nightmare and being my only experience with MB I will not repeat this brand for my next car. I still miss all the Audis I had at full satisfaction during my working life, and a Volvo as well……. By the way, MB still is having problems on water pumps in new C models. See their web for recalls at these days. Huge problems.
@@joanm.2987 what ever helps you sleep at night knowing you could have spent $300 to fix an issue at any other mechanic shop vs a MB dealership. I have 2 Benz one old 2002 c200 komoressor import from Japan and a 2009 c300. You are just so wrong with all due respect there are so many mechanic who work on Merced and do a better job because they care more then the mb mechanics. My fuel pump on my c200 just the pump alone they gave me no options but an imported pump was $700 just for pump and $300 labour the labour is 15 minutes 🤣🤣. Its right under the back seat. You are not driving a Tesla you don't have to go to the manufacturer and pay up the ass for basic work. Even a simple oil change is 189.99-220 vs 120 at my mechanic. You are a sucker and don't know anything about cars or Mercedes if you are not getting your car fixed from Vladimir or mark from Poland
@@joanm.2987 Instead of paying $1000-1200 I paid 250 for a new pump and paid my mechanic 30 minutes of labour I ended up paying $300. Every single piece of work done is insured by warranty and the shop. You do nothing for yourself going to the mb dealership. Take my advice learn from someone who works on cars for a living. Although I don't specialize in Merced they are not much different and are sometime as easy as Lego for example my c200 is the easiest car to work on and can take almost any c200 w203 part from 2000-2006. Mercedes knows this but gave me no options. Every single time I go to mb for a quote I take the information to my mechanic have him laugh and how much of a scam the price is and to do the same work for half the quote. Merced charge you for every second you breath inside there shop I swear . My water pump, thermostat replacement and flushing was quoted at $1500 I paid $700
@@MMKYT1 All Benz, BMW, and Audi are Junks beyond 200k Km. Repairs cost is way too much unlike regular Toyota, Honda, and Mazda that barely break in at 200k km.
OTHER REVIEWS TO WATCH:
Ford:
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2004-2008 F-150 Buyer's Guide: ua-cam.com/video/duNWJA7m63s/v-deo.html
Toyota:
1995-2004 1st Gen Tacoma Buyer's Guide: ua-cam.com/video/WtyhiOD8Jm4/v-deo.html
2005-2015 2nd Gen Tacoma Buyer's Guide: ua-cam.com/video/9ZOhD0KU_gA/v-deo.html
Mercedes:
W211 Buyer's Guide: ua-cam.com/video/QpplQTp2DSQ/v-deo.html
W212 Buyer's Guide: ua-cam.com/video/IYZSnLzdNp8/v-deo.html
Porsche:
2010-2016 Panamera Buyer's Guide: ua-cam.com/video/3giueysuXdU/v-deo.html
1999-2005 911 996 Buyer's guide: ua-cam.com/video/rvdMzS8XdXk/v-deo.html
The Mercedes from 2008-2014 were the best designed for Mercedes-Benz wish they didn’t deviate from this beautiful design.
I agree I have a 210 e350 4matic and a 11 C300 4matic...They are amazing cars!
I saved money for quite some time and decided to buy a black amg sport plus package c250 facelift of this model. It has panoramic roof, black leather, updated media iTS RAW. 18 inch amg double spoke rims ... one of the best decisions i made. Really love and enjoy this car!
Got my c250 amg sport 6 months ago and love it like the day i got it! Congrats!
@@mitchio83 i was looking at a c250 sport 2012, hows reliability and gas been on yours?
@@natea.lockheart4501 Bad, currently about 22 MPG. Ive got to take it in to a shop. Ive got a problem with either air/fuel mixture or spark plugs/coil packs, although mine has been heavily modified with a custom/BMS intake, diverter valve, large intercooler, exhaust, etc..
I really can't explain how great this video is at breaking down most things in totality.
One major flaw with the W204 (and some other Mercedes models) is that the rear subframe is prone to corrosion. Fortunately, this should be covered by the corrosion warranty which as recently been extednded to 20 years in the US (it is 30 years in Europe) so all such affected W204s should be covered at the time of writing (11th July 2023). My own 2009 C200 had the rear subframe replaced under warranty. Aside from this the W204 is great car.
Thanks man
If I wanna check by Mercedes dealer will they charge me? I had c300 2011
They shouldn't be charging for the inspection because it is a warranty claim.
So my 2013 Mercedes c250 can get the back bumper subframe changed out from warranty?
@@Runitup2k Yes that is the case with the W204 if your rear subframe is corroded.
I love how this car looks inside and out, hopefully I can afford a facelift sedan model in the coming years, would love to have it.
the facelift is my "attainable" dream car. hopefully I can buy one as my daily driver in a year or 2/3
I bought a 2013 W204 facelift as my first car and it’s pretty reliable!
@@leosanta-ana4997 which engine it has?
@@karzem1 C250 model, so the 1.8L turbo in-line 4!
@@leosanta-ana4997 it’s a good car, what do you think about the c350 model reliability
, it’s a 6 cylinder 2008, I am projecting to buy one but I am concerned about their reliability!
Can’t touch a beauty. Love the way it is. Love my stock 2015 C63 507 Edition. One of the last ones before shutting down the V8
Damn you have my dream car! Literally the reason i got a coupe c250. Was told the c350 engine is unreliable and i wanted the coupe so i got the 4 banger lol
I had transmission problem and steering locking system problem on my W204 (4matic) !!!!
you truly know this car!
What year is your car and miles ?
@@jeff346 2008, been driving it for 3yrs now, i love the car alot, you cant compare benz to any other car..
I repaired the transmission, got one year guarantee, it got faulty again in less than 1yr..
Mileage is 130,000 km
I just bought a Face-Lifted ( 2014 ) Sport Sedan 4Matic. Should I be worried about the Transmission, or is that issue for the Pre-face lift version ?
@@1970borntorun how’s it going for you?
So avoid the face lift c300? Currently in my plans to buy one in the next couple months with no more than 80k miles on it.
Looking at buying a 2013 2.1 c220 cdi. Was interested to know what current owners think, and what to look out for in terms of tear jerking faults.
Many thanks for any offerings it really is appreciated. 👍👍
I bought my 2012 C300 Sport package in 2014 with 20,000 miles. Now have 97,000 miles. Overall great car. Have had to replace brake pads/rotors, heater fan motor, steering lock failed (very common) worst thing is the rear subframe rusted out. Expensive to fix but just recently, MBUSA is covering the subframe under warranty. Oh, and the cheap leatherette interior was a letdown. The seat bottoms come apart at the seams. I replaced them for about $350. The car is sure footed on the road, rides great, handles great. My daughter drives it now and loves it.
owned 2 of these beaitys both c250 and many many years later still have just amazing engineering
C350?
Wen buying second c250 was still novice I wish I brought the V6 engine but that's my next car or bmw 335d!
My dream car is a 2012-2014 Silver c350 Coupe Sport AMG package
That’s a perfect car video, thank you so much for covering everything !
The leather itself holds up well, but be careful with jeans-they are prone to tearing at the seam. Unfortunately, replacing this with a genuine Mercedes part is outrageous. Like, 50% current market value of the vehicle outrageous. I got a knock off and you initially couldn't even tell a difference, but now (1 year later), it is evident that the drivers seat is shiny and worn in, while the others are as matte and taught as the day the vehicle left the showroom.
Picked up a 2013 c300 with 94k miles few days ago , my first German car ever , hope it treats me well
Good luck on that shit box
Any problems yet?
@@Steven_Will I’m fr following this post. Let us know Jeff. No hate we’re just implementing our opinions.
@@PuffPuffPlay You’re taking out of your ass, the C300 has the M276 engine shared with the C350. It’s one of Mercedes’ most reliable engines and is considered bulletproof with the right maintenance
@@n52gremlin15 they are not considered bulletproof, they are. Everything on a Mercedes will go long before the engine. There is a reason why in Europe the taxi they use are Mercedes.
this video was great, i’m looking to get a facelift w204 as a first car. it’s been a favorite of mine since 2012 when my folks used to own one.
I'm thinking ab getting one of these for my first car this summer it's looking really tempting
I got one as my first car. You wont be dissappointed!
I am going to buy on this summer
Is it still worthy guys did anyone of you buy one of these
Best tip take a model starting from 2012 and choose between c200 and c300 avoid the c250 the other ones are way more reliable especially the 200 diesel that one will get you 1million kilometerz
Why avoid the C250?
The c200 cdi after 2009 is unreliable
Why avoid c250?
Why avoid the c-250? Answer the gadamn question! 😫
Guys I got a 2014 Mercedes c250. Beautiful car excellent on gas and a great credit builder for a 40k car now worth 13k at around 60,000 miles. Only problem is the throttle response and turbo lag. If your willing to spend an extra 600-1000$ & buy performance parts you wouldn’t know your driving a 4 cylinder!!! Happy I bought the car.
Only missing one other major issue: The cam phasers will break unexpectedly without warning
fr?
@@Fractal_blip Only cars with the flux capacitor package suffer from that issue
And the steering lock
@@irvxing That is correct, I totally forgot about that one. I did however order a replacement....just have yet to install it. Hopefully I beat that disaster.
@@Марк.Фетнов 2014 C350 fall in that category?
I had steering lock issue on c280 2008 at 75k miles, had it replaced with emulator so no longer functions. I also have an issue where the driver side lights will stay on after turning off. Sometimes they flicker so I don’t notice, I don’t want to fork out more money so I just have to turn them on/off and that solves it.
Is the mercedes benz c300 4matic 2009 a good buy
Is c350 2008 a reliable car for long run
Get the engine number & check that it doesn't fit in the range of the early m272's with balance shaft failures. That's one of the biggest if not the biggest thing to look out for along with the history of the tranny services.
How about a 2011
Got a 2012 c250 coupe 2 years ago, it never failed me once. But it really doesn’t like to hold pressure in the tires.
Mercedes don't make wheels or tyres
@@SavedbyHim i never claimed they did
Know exactly what you talking about… Display always reminds you to check tire pressure 😂😂
@@dr_bre dude… it’s so annoying when you’re in a hurry and the display shows you that your pressures are down (AGAIN!). Changed my tires and i still get the message on the same one lol. I’m sure it’s something to do with my rims but it’s an expensive fix for now
@@madoba8717 as a German i know that we get overboard sometimes with accuracy with things we create or do.😂🤌🏾.. the car just wants to perform at it’s best and the sensor is way too sensitive ( is your car empty/ is it loaded/ hot or warm temperatures??!) but you can imagine that a tiny loss of pressure ( which always happens) want or shouldn’t put you in a life threatening position. My guess is to find a way to block that tire sensor, instead of changing your wheel setup… in my case, I just don’t care about the tire pressure pop up on my display. Thanks for your response Mado BA
Main reasons to not buy this c250 is because I needed to get the cam adjusters replaced right off the bat at 70k miles bought it at 50k miles at 99k miles my high pressure fuel pump which is covered by warranty went out my srs airbag light came on due to the clock spring. My door handle broke they quoted 1k!!!!! Insanely ridiculously Mercedes. Bought it and instantly regretted it after 2 years of having it had it for 3 years and it became useless junk my horn didn’t even work.
If anyone decides to buy ask if the adjusters and high pressure fuel pump was replaced this is a common problem in the 2013 c250s
Which one is better and more reliable - C200 (154 hp) petrol M471 or CDI OM651 - 170 hp?
CDI , taxi engine
I wish you make video for GLE 63S coupe, what's the problem had.
Great video! Subscribed.
Thank you for this. I just looked at a 2010 c350 with 90k miles in steel grey metallic, it has literally every single option which was available at the time. Where do you find that list of available options sheets
LGND that sounds exactly like my car lol. I don’t know where to get the option sheets because mb gave me them with the car. I have a 2014 c350 4matic with 94k miles.
23dunmc I’ll be looking at same year as yours coming weeks
@@23dunmc how’s that car going for you??? Cost of ownership?
@@bobespnza-la7030 just sold the car last month for 16,000 to the dealership. Traded it in for a 2017 glc 43. Very little cost of maintenance on the c350. I loved that car. Nothing broke at all.
@@23dunmc I found one of Carvana with all service records on CARFAX . All done at its respected MB dealership too. It’s priced at $16k and have ~47k miles. Thinking about it. 2014 C350 sedan. Fully loaded
Great video very good info
From which year are the engines direct injection? All direct injection cars suffer from carbon buildup on intake valves, all makes...
2010
Amazing video my friend!
Nice one. Can you possibly do one for the W203?
does this video apply to the c230 ?
It’s weird that Americans call it a “sedan”.. it’s a “saloon” in the Uk
is this the same difference as the 2013 c250?
same
very good
Wish MB had done something with the foot operated brake with he release by hand, strange
I saw a 1950's SL with the same foot brake and hand release. To me it makes it special to know it's still the same. A car with tradition and a history
@@SavedbyHim love the foot handbrake in my w210. Wish more cars had it.
Misses the other common issues to look out for or be mindful of...
-Transmission modules can malfunction on facelift gen.
-Pre facelift cam and magnet sensors leaks to watch out for, similar to everything on the w211 except the fuel pump.. For now...
-The takata air bag recall for both to make sure is done or if was inquired to a wait-list at any local dealers to replace...
Mercedes should endorse you
I need c300 plss how much
Short answer! Yes
Audi A4 2017 next please
video gonna be too long , too much problems to cover
C200 w204. Jan 2012. Water pump changed at 47.000 kms in warranty. Again, water pump leaking at 113.000 kms, 401€.
Clima malfunction, 134.000 kms. SAM board replaced. 850€. Reason? Too old.... as per MB dealer words. 8 years, a MB too old? OMG !!!
All maintenance intervals and inspections done at MB dealers workshop.
2021 May update:
Clima a/c issues are the same as before changing the SAM board card, after driving only 2000 kms.
MB dealer changed the sensor 15 days ago and after driving half a hour, we had to comeback to the workshop as the problem was still the same.
Now, may 25th the dealer says the problem resides in the compressor !!!
Come on Mercedes….. where are your skills and know how?
Why are you going to a Mercedes dealership for repairs when any mechanic that works on European cars will do the work for less then half the price, and they will do a much better job
@@Fatkidlovecake Not so easy, I’m afraid.
As per my long experience in the automotive market, at least in Spain and I’m 72 years old, these kind of cars cannot repaired by any mechanic, and good skilled mechanics are really missing. Most of them, merely try to solve the problem by changing parts and “guessing”….. because they lack the specific tools to attend serious issues of modern cars.
At least, when repairing at MB workshops I get the confidence that any of their workshops, even in other country, will attend warranty repairs. Two weeks ago, being in France, a MB service attended me at cero cost to diagnose and solve a problem with the Becker gps malfunction which was previously badly updated by another MB service in Spain 3 months ago.
However, this MB car is a nightmare and being my only experience with MB I will not repeat this brand for my next car. I still miss all the Audis I had at full satisfaction during my working life, and a Volvo as well…….
By the way, MB still is having problems on water pumps in new C models. See their web for recalls at these days. Huge problems.
@@joanm.2987 what ever helps you sleep at night knowing you could have spent $300 to fix an issue at any other mechanic shop vs a MB dealership. I have 2 Benz one old 2002 c200 komoressor import from Japan and a 2009 c300. You are just so wrong with all due respect there are so many mechanic who work on Merced and do a better job because they care more then the mb mechanics. My fuel pump on my c200 just the pump alone they gave me no options but an imported pump was $700 just for pump and $300 labour the labour is 15 minutes 🤣🤣. Its right under the back seat. You are not driving a Tesla you don't have to go to the manufacturer and pay up the ass for basic work. Even a simple oil change is 189.99-220 vs 120 at my mechanic. You are a sucker and don't know anything about cars or Mercedes if you are not getting your car fixed from Vladimir or mark from Poland
@@joanm.2987 Instead of paying $1000-1200 I paid 250 for a new pump and paid my mechanic 30 minutes of labour I ended up paying $300. Every single piece of work done is insured by warranty and the shop. You do nothing for yourself going to the mb dealership. Take my advice learn from someone who works on cars for a living. Although I don't specialize in Merced they are not much different and are sometime as easy as Lego for example my c200 is the easiest car to work on and can take almost any c200 w203 part from 2000-2006. Mercedes knows this but gave me no options. Every single time I go to mb for a quote I take the information to my mechanic have him laugh and how much of a scam the price is and to do the same work for half the quote. Merced charge you for every second you breath inside there shop I swear . My water pump, thermostat replacement and flushing was quoted at $1500 I paid $700
Are 2008 c300 reliable?
SupraGamingHD got a 2009 c300 1300000 miles still runnng great
@@neftalireyes4517 1.3 million miles?
All sensors will fail.. ECU, ESP, ABS.. 😅
1 Word-- GERMAN!!
These cars are fucking garbage I traded my 2013 c250 for a 2017 Honda Civic hatchback.
In short, it's a crap and breakeasily
Someone don’t no how to take care of a car 😂😂😂 either that or it was a piece of junk when you bought it
@@MMKYT1 All Benz, BMW, and Audi are Junks beyond 200k Km. Repairs cost is way too much unlike regular Toyota, Honda, and Mazda that barely break in at 200k km.
Mazda lmao!!!
Shame they didn't test the fucking subframes