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  • Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
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    Jordan “BBZ” Drummond has been a mainstay in the world of poker for over 15 years. He started playing poker in 2009 with $7, engaging in 10 cent 360 mans and 25 cent 45 mans, and impressively spun it up to $750k over the next five years by playing SNGs and grinding Supernova Elite four times. Simultaneously, he built a staking group that eventually included approximately 150 active players. Following the termination of SNE, Jordan focused on staking and coaching until 2019 when he began streaming. He played and streamed high-stakes MTTs for a year and a half to promote BBZPoker, a subscription-based coaching service, and obtained a sponsorship from partypoker, which he gave up when he decided to stop streaming full-time in 2021.
    As a seasoned professional, Jordan has not only achieved sustained success in high-stakes poker but has also made a lasting impact as a staker, coach, and mentor. His commitment to nurturing talent is evident in his mentorship of hundreds of students, guiding them to achieve their full potential in the competitive realm of poker. In 2012, Jordan founded BBZpoker.com, a platform that has grown into a leading provider of affordable and high-level poker training content. Under his leadership, BBZpoker.com plays a pivotal role in shaping the skills of countless poker enthusiasts, contributing to the overall growth and excellence of the poker community. Jordan “BBZ” Drummond’s enduring influence in the poker world is a testament to his dedication, expertise, and passion for the game.
    Here is what you can expect to hear in this week's episode:
    0:00 Introduction
    00:25 The Most Experienced Poker Coach
    7:05 Easy to Choose Winners? Selecting Your Students
    10:00 Helping with Life Leaks
    12:57 Learning How a Spot Works - Eliminating the Tilt
    16:26 Making Millionaires
    24:58 Getting Screwed Over - A Predictable Pattern
    32:02 Audit Mechanisms to Stop Cheating
    43:53 Why Start Staking?
    47:53 An Interest in Self-Improvement
    57:47 Jordan’s Reading List
    1:03:12 Persistence and Durability - An Immense Skill for Poker and Life
    1:07:59 Accountability Systems in Poker
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 135

  • @terrydean8866
    @terrydean8866 28 днів тому +4

    Always loved Jordan’s way of teaching, straight to the point and very easy to understand. Glad you had him on the podcast.

  • @LJG23Poker-wz9uo
    @LJG23Poker-wz9uo 29 днів тому +5

    The amount of relevant information in this podcast was unreal. I just want to say thank you Jungleman for starting this channel your guests have been absolutely epic so far and also to Jordan for being so candid with some tough questions.

    • @daniellc11
      @daniellc11 23 дні тому +1

      yep, the goal is to get the best resources and info to you guys to win

  • @DocloveJS
    @DocloveJS 28 днів тому +4

    One thing you'll notice about anyone critical of Jordan, they have one thing in common--they were never actually coached by him. If you are coached by Jordan Drummond, you game will transform for the better. He's just that good.

  • @Megan-p9t
    @Megan-p9t 29 днів тому +4

    Jordan and his BBZ operation is top notch.
    Jordan is an excellent coach, and is very ethical and fair!

  • @FraserGillies-e7y
    @FraserGillies-e7y 27 днів тому +4

    Jordan has helped me understand the game in a whole new way. I have learned how to study and have had my biggest wins on a more consistent basis since watching his simple poker systems bundle and joining his seminar community. Whether you are a new player or an experienced player there is something to learn at bbz poker

  • @nazimzahar5521
    @nazimzahar5521 28 днів тому +8

    Jordan from BBZ is an exceptional poker coach whose dedication and expertise have transformed countless players into crushers. His in-depth knowledge of the game, coupled with his ability to clearly communicate complex strategies, makes learning both effective and enjoyable. Jordan’s passion for poker and his commitment to his students' success truly set him apart in the poker community. I'm a BBZ seminars subscriber and have some bundles including Simple Poker Systems and it was really a game changer for me 🙂

  • @andreasmeier9438
    @andreasmeier9438 28 днів тому +2

    Great interview. I like Jungle's authentic format. Jordan is a great coach, his style and method are easy to understand but the path is hard work for anyone who is serious about their game.

  • @thebarrybarry
    @thebarrybarry 28 днів тому +3

    Jordan makes content , stop everything and listen . If he’s not talking poker strategy his life strategies are just as valuable and will definitely increase your real life ev . Great to hear jungle genuinely ask questions on how his coaching works and great original questions . Must say I enjoyed this one a lot .

  • @nicos932
    @nicos932 29 днів тому +4

    Really interesting to hear Jordan talk about the inner workings of his coaching business and his life approach. Dan's experience with the poker world and his openmindedness really come through in the quality of this interview.

  • @christofarno
    @christofarno Місяць тому +8

    Don’t know if it’s just me but …. Jungle looks like he’s off his head. lol

  • @Kat02220
    @Kat02220 28 днів тому +2

    Jordan has a great way of breaking down a complex game into a simpler one that is much more easier to understand. As discussed in the video, learning the game by spot is really helpful.

  • @Kmars133
    @Kmars133 28 днів тому +3

    BBZ is the goat of poker tournament training coaching and tools. You guys rock!

  • @andriusnauburaitis
    @andriusnauburaitis 29 днів тому +2

    Listened it on Spotify.Jordan as always just nuts,can’t wait to see more podcasts with him.

  • @kingjonc
    @kingjonc Місяць тому +5

    My favorite poker coach! Glad you had him on!

  • @raphaelbrunis8851
    @raphaelbrunis8851 26 днів тому +5

    I had a coaching session with Jordan today. As expected it was high level type of coaching. I sent him my last 50k hands. We went through some filters as he described in the pod.
    In 10 min we already had clear info on most reccurent spots.
    His explantions were more than clear. He has a scientist approach based on facts and theory. The way he manipulates the different software is impressive.
    More than words, I am jungle student, and hés the one that book me the session.
    Instead of staying one hour, Jordan stayed 30min extra min.

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker 26 днів тому +1

      Thanks Raphael it was a huge honor to work with you! Good luck!

    • @kennethkerrigan8140
      @kennethkerrigan8140 2 дні тому

      how much did the session cost ye?

    • @raphaelbrunis8851
      @raphaelbrunis8851 2 дні тому

      @@kennethkerrigan8140 I think Jordan made it for free as a favor to Jungle.

  • @mattl6638
    @mattl6638 29 днів тому +2

    Great conversation Jungle. You two are great humans. Loved the look on his face when you broke out the Africa reference haha

  • @brandnew-zv3bg
    @brandnew-zv3bg Місяць тому +4

    what about players who only play global and the fact that sharkscope misses half of global tournaaments? its so frustrating

  • @nickl2870
    @nickl2870 Місяць тому +20

    I understand the easy-lazy path to seeing this man as a scammer/preying upon..../bla-blah, because this game brings a hard reality to any player (and most are losing). I think Jordan is an incredible asset for poker. Even as an inexperienced player, you can understand, to a degree, some complex concepts that he brings to the table and still realize the immensity of knowledge/hard work you need to have to beat poker games online nowadays. If you have an ounce of retrospection, you'll understand why and how you are losing... some will always look for an easy alternative.

    • @benjaminlopez9662
      @benjaminlopez9662 Місяць тому +2

      It’s like working for a company. Companies have a competitive advantage against the individual because they were earlier, had more money, had more skills or whatever. So most people have to contribute to a company and they will get paid a fraction of what they make for the company. If you can start your own company or become a winning player without help, more power to you and good luck!

    • @toileri659
      @toileri659 Місяць тому +3

      But why do you think he coaches and doesn't get rich playing poker himself?

    • @Matzes
      @Matzes Місяць тому +1

      Who says he isnt making money playing poker?
      His skillset might not be 100% in playing alone, but in teaching and analyzing flaws in poker strategy, and he found a way to turn that into more money with less Volatility. He explained it in this interview as well. Somewhere around minute 45
      ​@toileri659

    • @willemmuller8790
      @willemmuller8790 Місяць тому +1

      @@toileri659 Because he makes more money coaching

    • @adragonro
      @adragonro Місяць тому +1

      ​@@toileri659 It doesnt matter what one thinks. Fact is u can make more money by staking a lot of people. Thats how banks work. He talks about it at 45:00 min

  • @Blllaze
    @Blllaze Місяць тому +3

    Short Answer to title: Yes
    Long answer to title: Yes

  • @1312Mork2
    @1312Mork2 Місяць тому +5

    Great convo!!

  • @jeremyculot5937
    @jeremyculot5937 27 днів тому +3

    Been folowing BBZ and Jordan for a long time and i like the way he thinks about poker , this is just a great discussion

  • @schwibbspoker9281
    @schwibbspoker9281 28 днів тому +2

    Idk why there are so many negative comments on this. Jordan dramatically changed my life for the better and he is the goat poker coach! He’s the furthest thing from a scam. Offers the highest level content for some of the lowest prices.

  • @stewart-J
    @stewart-J 26 днів тому +2

    Persistence, “You must go on. I can't go on. I'll go on.” ― Samuel Beckett, The Unnamable and 'Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better.' Samuel Beckett, Worstward Ho

  • @JAKTPLO
    @JAKTPLO 24 дні тому +2

    Life Ascending by Nick Lane is an incredible book- the 10 great inventions of evolution, if you want a non-fiction/non-poker book

  • @RonMofoIrish
    @RonMofoIrish 29 днів тому +2

    Love this content! BBZ is easily one of the best coaches out there.

  • @michaelb4090
    @michaelb4090 Місяць тому +3

    Great shtuff yall 🎉

  • @TonyViper
    @TonyViper 27 днів тому +2

    One of the sharpest people alive, I always liked him

  • @Evntz
    @Evntz 28 днів тому +2

    Interesting convo guys love to hear how these things work

  • @Wombat86dkdk
    @Wombat86dkdk 29 днів тому +4

    Two of the best in the field

  • @poker8055
    @poker8055 27 днів тому +2

    Great interview. Anything involving Jordan comes highly recommended

  • @Apretzki
    @Apretzki 29 днів тому +2

    Nice to hear some thoughts behind why BBZ does what he does.

  • @Exoduss123
    @Exoduss123 28 днів тому +2

    Best podcast out there currently would love to hear from more online crushers and coaches

  • @florinelnastase6334
    @florinelnastase6334 28 днів тому +2

    Great job, guys! I love listening to you!✌️

  • @drakemichigan
    @drakemichigan 28 днів тому +2

    I've always put poker off to pursue other business interests in my life, but no more, so I was glad to come across BBZ through watching Lex and Spraggy ect on Twitch & looking forward to watching this video. I've already took advantage of the buy 2 and get three courses on the website and also signed up for the daily seminars as well as the content over on Discord. So far very happy with the purchases, so lets get some more in this draw.

  • @medvidmaks
    @medvidmaks 29 днів тому +2

    Always enjoying hearing all things poker from the Coach

  • @christianbache4074
    @christianbache4074 Місяць тому +3

    Jordan Drummond is such a legendary guest to have on. I could listen to him talk and share his knowledge all day long.

  • @PoisonMaster99
    @PoisonMaster99 28 днів тому +3

    bbz the goat

  • @sanmlowry14
    @sanmlowry14 29 днів тому +2

    Really interesting listen

  • @dextr0
    @dextr0 27 днів тому +2

    Really enjoyed the insights from both. Thank you!

  • @jgino14
    @jgino14 28 днів тому +2

    love these podcasts!

  • @reezellthia
    @reezellthia Місяць тому +2

    Whats to stop stakees just going off on their own once they start winning a lot?

    • @aaralynnsdad
      @aaralynnsdad Місяць тому +1

      Nothing

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker 29 днів тому

      Yeah that's how the business works. You have to be careful because initially the best players who are doing well don't need stakes so you don't get applicants who are peaking. And the players you work with who do really well leave.. So it's very easy to be stuck with a pretty unprofitable stable of horses. But then like many other things if you work at it it can still work out nicely in spite of those things.

  • @jjslots4494
    @jjslots4494 23 дні тому +3

    Love your content Jungle

  • @lapampa4296
    @lapampa4296 Місяць тому +7

    Totally agree with Jungle. In business I have been scammed multiple times with people that keep throwing "God Bless" and other religious/church comments in the conversation...much more than regular people. Now when I hear that in the conversation, I run away or take a very cautions approach. Sad but true!!

    • @Jacobson-dp7gg
      @Jacobson-dp7gg Місяць тому

      This is a good lesson. Often when I am scamming people I use these terms more. Should reign it in more to get a higher scam ROI

    • @daniellc11
      @daniellc11 Місяць тому +1

      it's stats , and yes sad

    • @lapampa4296
      @lapampa4296 Місяць тому +1

      @@Jacobson-dp7gg 😆😆

    • @Matzes
      @Matzes Місяць тому +2

      People who are honest will not feel the need to invoke God to prove their honesty

    • @mrfahrenheit2006
      @mrfahrenheit2006 Місяць тому

      In my experience you get scammed most by rabbis than any other religious person

  • @cristanraulbumbu5445
    @cristanraulbumbu5445 29 днів тому +2

    Thank you !

  • @DoubleBassX2
    @DoubleBassX2 Місяць тому +2

    Simple moral guideline: "never use another person as a means to an end".

    • @seazman
      @seazman 17 днів тому

      How irrelevant to this video

  • @thomasw4141
    @thomasw4141 28 днів тому +2

    Great video, interesting to hear more about how stables work from the inside

  • @pesky1k
    @pesky1k 28 днів тому +2

    Fantastic podcast, always great to hear BBZ's insights into the game :)

  • @technofeeling2462
    @technofeeling2462 Місяць тому +2

    I still dont like the beeping but nice conversation. Two very interesting minds

  • @mrfahrenheit2006
    @mrfahrenheit2006 Місяць тому +1

    Jungleman, does that guy Scott “urnotindanger2” Palmer play poker any more? He was so good

  • @vesaheikkila4548
    @vesaheikkila4548 28 днів тому +2

    Nice one!

  • @brandnew-zv3bg
    @brandnew-zv3bg Місяць тому

    is this pads thing? or is this a different group? im super interested in this im a break even/ slightly winning player

    • @thom8363
      @thom8363 Місяць тому +1

      No its ''BBZ''
      go check it out

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker Місяць тому

      Different group but same business. I got started long before Pads did but Pads had an extraordinary run when he was in staking.

    • @brandnew-zv3bg
      @brandnew-zv3bg Місяць тому +2

      @@BBZPoker yes Im super interested in this kind of thing but if I'm being realistic I'll have to wait a little bit because I've been sick these past years ever since covid.... It's a long story but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to put into the required amount of dedication at this time but as soon as I'm better I will definitely be in contact. I really enjoyed the pod and I think I'm the exact kind of candidate for this type of coaching/staking. Thanks again for your response 🙏

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker Місяць тому

      @@brandnew-zv3bg 🙏

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker 29 днів тому

      @@brandnew-zv3bg We look forward to working with you and wish you a speedy recovery!

  • @SultanOfSwings
    @SultanOfSwings Місяць тому +3

    im about to faint chat...two goats in 1 podcast??? L F GGGGGG

  • @KtoBylPierwszy
    @KtoBylPierwszy Місяць тому +6

    Jungle face expresions and questions like "explain patterns"...
    Am I the only one who got the impression that Jungle is trying to have some sort of recruitment interview with his guest to see if he is who he claims to be? 😄

    • @Sammwhich
      @Sammwhich Місяць тому +4

      Yeah Jordan comes off as a scammer

    • @Matzes
      @Matzes Місяць тому +7

      ​@@SammwhichI have the opposite feeling. He seems super transparent

    • @adragonro
      @adragonro Місяць тому +5

      If u know Jungle, u will know that he is like that all the time...just curious ❤

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker 29 днів тому +2

      @@Sammwhich After 15 years in the business there's a reason you haven't heard us associated with anything unethical. Thank you for watching!

  • @scottyMFpipN
    @scottyMFpipN 28 днів тому +2

    good stuff!

  • @simplexthings1536
    @simplexthings1536 12 днів тому +2

    THe man the myth the legend!

  • @brandnew-zv3bg
    @brandnew-zv3bg Місяць тому

    49:54 wait what?

  • @tjeisenman4439
    @tjeisenman4439 18 днів тому

    Jungle either like closes his eyes and meditates or he's straight nodding off on fentanyl

  • @willschraft4735
    @willschraft4735 29 днів тому +3

    This guy is a shark! Reminds me of working at a prop trading firm back in the day.

  • @suchabadbeat2617
    @suchabadbeat2617 Місяць тому

    Hey jungle why you are not playing tritons anymore

    • @suchabadbeat2617
      @suchabadbeat2617 Місяць тому +1

      Is triton having issues lately? Seems their not interested in promoting themselves more

    • @daniellc11
      @daniellc11 Місяць тому +3

      I'll play them, just hard to do everything and I cant claim to be the best tournament player

    • @nathankomosa8928
      @nathankomosa8928 Місяць тому

      ​@@suchabadbeat2617wsop is happening

  • @JesseBeahm
    @JesseBeahm 29 днів тому

    Is that Don Lemon?

  • @Tikmaster1
    @Tikmaster1 Місяць тому +2

    If you can replace coaching with AI, that immediately means you can replace the students.

  • @Daper_in_Jasper
    @Daper_in_Jasper Місяць тому +2

    The goat coach for mtts and I’ve finished several courses from different companies. The way he structures thought process for NLH is incredible. Fuck the haters Jordan, you are taking coaching to a top professional level and you don’t need to fucking be a crusher for both to be a truth. I’ve meet straight card savants at this game who explain thought process as “I thought he it so I checked”

  • @rainmolderkivi2263
    @rainmolderkivi2263 Місяць тому

    Jungelman is lilke state like he wants to expose scammer. Very sophisticated questions.

  • @ghostbr9136
    @ghostbr9136 Місяць тому +2

    Jordan is an amazing player .

  • @Sammwhich
    @Sammwhich Місяць тому +3

    Jungle just doesn't look like he's loving it/buying it. Just demeanor and scratching head. Zoned out. Wonder how much he was paid for this one.

    • @tin7272
      @tin7272 Місяць тому +4

      Jungle has always been like this

    • @squirrrrrm
      @squirrrrrm Місяць тому +1

      he is very autistic, its just his natural demeanor

    • @adragonro
      @adragonro Місяць тому +1

      ​@@tin7272 I dont know how people ignore this fact. Also he is very intelligent and not the kind of person to take money AND make talks with people he doesnt Like/trust

  • @Sammwhich
    @Sammwhich Місяць тому +3

    And why the fuck are they paying car lease for their horses. Don't even be p-laying at those stakes or playing poker at all if you cant do that.

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker 29 днів тому

      It was an extreme example. When we stake players, we are fully invested in their success and sometimes these types of things are the best answer.

  • @toileri659
    @toileri659 Місяць тому +7

    Jordan lacks any relevant results in the last 5 years, he plays very bad if you watch him play. But to each his own

    • @Seadevil910
      @Seadevil910 Місяць тому +1

      he is trash lol he is basically a scammer at this point

    • @DocloveJS
      @DocloveJS 28 днів тому +1

      1. He doesn't play bad at all. Find one hand he played poorly 2. More importantly, nobody cares how well Bellichek or Popovich, play football and basketball. The best coaches in a field are rarely the best players.

  • @cafferacer
    @cafferacer 15 днів тому

    On the left, a dude that deserves respect, he’s risked it all, problem solved and has won. Dude on the right I don’t really care to describe.

  • @ImOnlySIeeping
    @ImOnlySIeeping 20 днів тому

    those who can, play, those who can't, coach

  • @cafferacer
    @cafferacer 15 днів тому

    I first started playing the horses 🐎 at Bay Meadows around the time I played poker as kid. This coach said it’s easy to pick a winner 🏆 lol. It’s simple? Picking a horse with a bunch of data is easy? lol wow the balls on this scammer kid

  • @cafferacer
    @cafferacer 15 днів тому

    Let me take my playing the horses analogy a bit higher with this poker coach. In 1997 at Bay Meadows horse racing track in Bay Area the track had genius horse players that were busted, fools that thought they knew horses and had insider info from the stables, data nerds that knew math and things that seemed to support trends etc etc and then fools that just did whatever seemed lucky. What’s different? Find the best horse players at the track and stake them, coach them? They did too much cocaine so you help them get more coke? This is fool shite

  • @ImOnlySIeeping
    @ImOnlySIeeping 20 днів тому

    wow look at the flood of paid shills in the comments

  • @vliv2609
    @vliv2609 Місяць тому +2

    i was micro stakes player after few months with bbz seminars, i managed to win 530 $ buy in tournament and up the stakes. Its really good

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker 29 днів тому

      That's amazing! We're happy the seminars are working out for you!

  • @juriiboyoka5557
    @juriiboyoka5557 Місяць тому +1

    no , he isnt

  • @Juniorbrazz
    @Juniorbrazz 20 днів тому

    was just me see this firing up each other all the way down to the river ? 🫨