@@Tybennie-nz7vr 16 is not a young girl. Many 16 year olds are sexually active (not children) that’s 2 year’s away from being 18. Driving working the whole 9
Maybe I missed something but she was protected. Didn't she say her stepmother found the text messages and told the father? Who then confronted the husband of the aunts? Seems like her parents did the right thing and confronted the situation.
I will understand why people asked, why now. It doesn’t matter. I met a 90 year old woman in NYC. Never married and never had kids because she was SA as a child by her uncle. She said that it always feels like it happened yesterday. It takes courage to tell your story. It may take a year or 50 years.
It's just that after so long, no one cares. Life goes on with or without you. Just take it to your grave. We've all had some kind of traumatizing experience. It's life 🤷🤷
@alexjonhson3765 yes....was abused at ages 6 9,15....and many other micro inappropriate sexual acts with other children in-between.....all this trauma did not come to a head until age 47.....once it came up..the sorrow from abuse I then suffered as an adult came up as the unhealed trauma unfortunately informed how I chose partners...trauma is so layered
Regardless of which sister’s husband, this act was disgusting, and shame on her aunt. Sadly this happens to frequently in families. I wish her the most healing on her journey.
I told a grown family member about my abuser and she didn’t believe me. And because she was my favorite aunt I felt like if she didn’t believe me, no one else would. After that I clung to my daddy and brothers. After growing up I went to therapy to help release the pain of it all and get the clarity that I needed. I then was able to tell my mother. Only to find out that this had happened to her too. It’s important to know it’s not your fault and you did nothing wrong. Healing is beautiful thing. ❤
@@denisekinzle1672 I think that suppressing it is part of the problem and the only person it is hurting is you. Please get some help if you can. It made me feel so much better.
Also she stated: “then partner at the time”. Which eliminates Traci. Traci never changed partners. She is the only sister who was with her husband until she transitioned
When they went to therapy with Iyanla, didn’t Tamar say that a family member abused her when she was younger and their family did nothing, which is why she is the way she is.
i've been telling folks for years that's why she went off on Iyanla. But Mama Evelyn only saw Tamar as being "disrespectful". which is typical in the black community.
@@niecyj.1782Exactly. IF anyone actually watched the show or seen pictures of their family, Michael Sr. nostrils are a distinct feature. Towanda has that same distinct feature, and so does Ashley.
I’m 47 now and the same thing happened to me. Black families are good at banding together to sweep things up under the rug and turning on the victim or the minor in the situation.
She actually does. Because she could be making it all up then who's to say? It's really messy actually. Because that leaves a door open for everyone to be attacked because of her sloppy allegations against someone. Have full disclosure or don't say anything at all
Thats btw her and God …. Her truth is her truth and those who have been through the same understand! She’s healing she’s not the police! Not saying anything at all and living with it has been done long enough, GB
Telling a story and not saying a name leaves the door wide open for online weirdos to attack who they assume it is. I understand wanting to talk to ppl about your trauma, but that puts a target on most of the partners who have been a part of the family to be attacked and ridiculed…which is not fair to the ones who did nothing.
@@sinamen516 I feel the same way. Towanda is known for being a very good secret keeper. When she was Toni's assistant, she developed a company to train aspiring celebrity assistants. It was called "Secret Squirrel". Discretion is very important working with celebrities. Towanda stayed with her ex-husband Andre for years but was not truly happy.
I mean all the husbands did or have behaved disrespectfully on their T.V shows at some point. 💁🏽♀️ Everyone says do this don’t do this until it’s their own story. Sad. Wait so this is their brother, Mike’s daughter, his daughter passed away and I recall something being read in Tracie’s will about Mike’s daughter’s ashes going to Tracie’s husband. I thought it sounded odd at the time. I can’t remember where I saw this at a while ago.
It's not fair to u to have to suffer for so long just to spare someone else's feelings! What about YOUR feelings? I don't know if u ever told anyone, but I hope u get the strength to, & always remember it's not your fault!!
I was widowed @ 29. Of course I wasn't up to socializing for months etc. My sister calls 1 day to say she,her husband & son had tickets to go to a concert in a Relatively small venue. My sister had decided she didnt want to go, if I wanted to get out I was more than welcome to her ticket. I reluctantly said sure, thx you. During the concert everyone on the bottom floor of the venue were standing, my brother in law was behind me, my nephew to the right. Keep in mind it is packed my nephew couldnt see anything. My brother in law put his arms around my hips slipped his hands into my front pockets. As if we were an effing couple! I was stunned. I squeezed my way to the other side of my nephew. The entire ride nothing was said about it. I broke my neck to tell 1 sister, she immediately called the sister whose husband was being inappropriate. Needless to say a divorce happened soon after. This was 30 yrs ago. I dont remember my sister or I talking about it. Maybe we did. Apparently she didn't doubt the story. It's never been talked about since. The brother in law moved away. I've not seen him since. I was an adult. 29 yrs old. It genuinely freaked me out. I couldnt imagine being 16. Idk how any man would do this. When they marry our sister we pretty much see them as our brother. For a grown man to look at his sister in law in a sexual way is disgusting. Imo.
@@THEDOORIZCLOSED the more players; the more likely it is to have an abuser(s) amongst them + being very religious somehow makes it even more prevalent.
@@AP-ts3lfYOU SAID IT!! It’s something with the families with player fathers or the ‘religious’ families. My father and my uncle were a ladies man back in the day , I didn’t find anything out untill I grew up. Let’s just say it’s a lot of inappropriate activity going on with the uncles and their nieces. The church is no better. Some churches have staff members that want young boys. Sexual perversion is on the rise.
@ u beat me to it. My parents come from large families and religious. Dads side was six kids, moms was nine. Again, religious and YES physical, verbal and sxxxual abuse on both sides. Sickening
@@LorenCognita if I’m not mistaken, Tamar and Vince lived in L.A at that time.... This niece spent a lot of time with Tawanda and resided with her because she was the assistant to Tawanda in assisting Toni. Ashley was on the 1st and I believe the second season too….she said she was the closet to Tawanda. She said her and the aunt whose husband did this to her was her favorite aunt.
This is what happens when we don’t deal with child sexual abuse. It is going to come out in one way or another. I don’t understand why, in most molestation situations people tend to protect the abuser. I was sexually abused when I was a child and the abuser was protected as well. I was left to deal with trauma on my own. I applaud Ashley, she is doing what she needs to heal. Her Aunt probably needs to heal from this as well. God bless all parties involved
Has it ever occurred to you that the Aunt probably distanced herself from Ashley could be her way of healing. This did happen 16 years ago and Ashley has since moved abroad. People grow apart. Especially if they live long distance. Two sides to every story.
You never know what goes on behind closed doors. Ashlee did an interview about this last year, she spoke about it all!!! She was very honest & genuine . I’m glad she had the courage to speak out about her childhood trauma.
Prayers for you. I understand. my experience was a secret until l spoke up for myself, and it was blown off as bs. I was grown when I said something, and the response broke my heart.
How come none of them feel comfortable telling their grandma Ms E about anything. When Tracie son was in trouble you’d think he’d call grandma. Ms E doesn’t seem like she’s there for her grandchildren.
Miss E is one of those old school religious mothers who is about image. She’s focused on where the money is. Whenever you see her, she’s usually with their most successful daughters (Toni and Tamar.)
I just watched her interviews. Ashley been through a lot. I’m praying for her healing and she truly finds peace with her trauma she had to endure. Her parents should be ashamed of themselves. Just sad
@@shaypatrice4368She was on the show but she left the country after her sister passed away from a drug overdose.She has been living out of the US for 10 years now .
@ why? Maybe that’s not what she needs to heal and doesn’t want to deal with that. Or maybe it’s Gabe… a dead man. Maybe she doesn’t want anyone else involved in the way she tells her story. If she shares names it goes from her story to her more famous aunts story. It’s for her to choose and it’s not supportive to pressure people.
@talkindurinthemovie what does Christ have to do with anything? You think Christ prevents sexual abuse? I’d point you to the Catholic Church, the southern Baptist mafia or any little town church in any town USA. Sick of the family but in here watching & commenting about the family 🙄
It's not toni or tamar because they really didn't like know one stay at there house ever. It not traci. It's either trina or Towanda. The Black family has to stop pushing this subject under the rug, and women stop staying with a man who violates your child and /or children. Shame on you who stay!
I believer her as well but what does she wants us to do with the information? What's her goal? Does she want a close relationship with Auntie? If so, what on earth can we do about it?
I’m thinking Towanda. By Trina having 2 sons and always in a rocky place in her relationship, I can’t see Michael sending his girls to stay with Trina. However, Ashley’s sister did stay with Towanda who seems the be the most “family oriented” sister. And she also called her ex her partner.
I was thinking this too. It makes sense because Ashley ended up being Toni's assistant for some time and it would have made sense for her aunt (towanda) to train her and let her stay.
She hasn't likved in the US for 10 years since her sister died .Maybe now that gabe has passed and Trina has a whole new husband she thinks it's time to say something.
@ Yes or maybe she reached out to that aunt for the holidays and didn’t get the response she wanted! For her to come out around Christmas and New Year’s something was said! I’m sure she talked to somebody before making that TikTok video about her family!
Praying for your healing and for God to give you guidance on how to move! I can only imagine what you’re feeling but I hope this post you made starts to create peace for you.
Is there a friend, or someone u trust that u can tell? So sorry for whatever happened to u, but it's not your fault and even if someone in your fam doesn't believe u, know that's THEIR problem, they heard u and u spoke the TRUTH!
Now this is true dedication, I'm not yet finished the 3 hours plus video, but Kempire already dropped another one. The devil got nothing on this man when it came to hard work
I think she’s talking about Gabe and Trina. I vaguely remember them talking a little about this when the series first started. The sisters were talking to Trina about all the reasons why she should leave him.
And if you noticed they never had kids out of all of her sisters they are the only couple that didn’t have children’s together and she was drinking like crazy season one.
This is a story for a therapist, not the public. The public is eating up the gossip, meanwhile this situation has probably hurt many who don't sound healed to me!
How are you going to tell someone how they can share their story. People always want victims to protect their abusers. If you don’t want to be embarrassed about your actions, don’t act that way.
@pialovebsnrnccbtp So you're more concerned that people who hurt this young woman are going to be hurt, but not as concerned for the hurt she endured herself and want her to be silent about it...yeah sure, that's healthy...
I remember on one of the episodes after Traci passed away. Tamar, spoke on them keeping secrets and she was very upset about them holding onto secrets.
I'm feeling like it's Trina and Gabe. Then when she says how he treated her, if you do process of elimnation all roads lead to them. This may be why on the show the family had so much disgust/disdain for Gabe. I even remeber one season where the angle suggested that he was abusive, but I didn't understand how based on what they showed. Mmmm wow ❤❤❤❤may peace be with the Niece and much love on her healing journey. It's time.
As a longtime viewer of BFV: There’s such a pattern of avoiding conflict, brushing problems under the rug and being passive aggressive..emotions bottled up inside without a release. They don’t like to talk and process problems. And this is another example of someone, a child, who has suffered because of it. Generations that don’t talk and handle problems. I am very happy she found her voice and know this was not right. Powerful.
Now y’all see why Toni said if they “weren’t her family, they wouldn’t be her friends”, and why she just plays the rich auntie, pops in with her shades, acts confused, and then jumps on her jet right back to LA. That family is a MESS! 😂
So many have suffered in silence for so long. The more we speak out about it and bring it to light, the more those who were traumatized can begin to heal.”
When I was SA d at 22. I did not say a thing until three years later.. it takes so much courage and emotional energy to relive the moment in storytelling.
She looks exactly like aunty Towanda. Beautiful girl, beautiful spirit, I’m glad she feels safe and brave enough to speak her truth. Outsiders don’t get the right to dictate when a person gets to get to tell their story…When your ready, your ready, period ❤
Brandy, genes are insane, she 100% looks like a mini Tawanda . same elevated, pretty cheekbones . Ashlee sounds "swirly" , i am 100% sure her husband/bf is cocasian . she has maxed swirlie energy.
I'm sorry, but social media is not a safe place. She is going to get so much hate and attacks. Smh this is gonna make it worse on her. Nobody is gonna care about who it is, but most ppl will only go on the attack on her. The Internet is a crazy place.
God bless her…. I know what it’s like because I’ve been there. I was physically attacked for saying what happened to me. The best thing you can do is just love yourself, forgive, and know that you have immense value no matter how others treated you 🫶🏾
I know people get frustrated with how people choose to tell their story, but this could be a cry for help. It’s her story and you don’t have to listen if you don’t want to. Her family is so toxic, she may have no one else to turn to. What if this were your child? We have become so desensitized and harsh, it’s so sad, but not surprising! I’ve been through this and it’s much easier just to shut up and suppress it because people will make you feel even worse about it. This comment section is proof. Yes, I get it she should go to a therapist, but she deserves to tell her story! God forbid something like this happens to anyone, I just hope you’re not met with these very comments or in my case gone through it and have to read comments that re-trigger your trauma. 😑🤦🏽♀️
No, she already told her family. It's already been out to the people that matter. No reason to tell us and put a cloud around the entire family and all the men involved while the actual guilty man escaped all the blame. Just because you are a victim doesn't give you a right to do that to innocent folks.
Ppl asking why she’s just now saying something are part of the problem.. victims don’t speak out because of ppl asking dumb questions like this!! And clearly her family KNEW, that’s all that matters. She didn’t need to announce it for your entertainment. She’s speaking on it now because SHE is choosing to, point blank!
I’m starting to think that the men in that family are Betas sorry. They let the women run the family and take a back seat…that’s how this type of stuff happens so freely in families. Households need strong male figures to lead
I’m sorry but the internet is giving me the same feeling I get when I go to IKEA. Where’s the nearest exit? How do I get out of here? I’m tired of people coming on the internet doing their makeup trying to drop vague family tea (not wanting to say names) but are in the comment section liking posts to give hints about who they’re talking about. Then just say their name. I’m not trauma bonding with strangers on the internet in 2025. I hope she continues therapy and everything works out for her and her mental health. Hopefully, she gets an apology from whoever owes her one.
Christian Keyes did the same thing. Praying she gets the help she needs but these social media reveals aren't the best means to get help IMO. The rest of the world doesn't need to be in your business.
I thought it odd as well dropping this news while putting on makeup. As if she's giving advice on beauty tips, instead of a life trauma!? I guess she needed a distraction as she spoke abt it??! Idk! 🤷🏽♀️
The way I overstood this one 😩 it’s like we looked at all these beautiful pieces… wrote down the numbers and got to the 2024 section (the warehouse area) only to see that same couch is literally in pieces… and now the pieces are being given to us to put together with basic picture drawn illustrations 🤦🏽♀️ which can feel like trauma dumping
Look here, I was 7 when a family’s friend son molested me and it took me seven years to tell my mother, and the way she cried I NEVER want to hear that sound again. I can’t imagine if I told her when I was younger. Dude would of probably been dead. Unfortunately my father didn’t 100 percent believe me because he told us about “the birds and bees, and don’t let anyone touch you down there” yea you did, but try being a child when that happens. Sad all the way around.
I am so very sorry that you went through that. I hope that you've been able to go to therapy and get the support /counseling that you need. This happens a lot to young black men and a lot of times been don't talk about it. Thank you for sharing your story 🙏🏾
somehow males know from a young age that females won't say anything if they act inappropriately!!!...females need to be taught to tell!! tell!!! tell! so that males become afraid to do something they shouldn't!!...I'm 30yrs old and my brother in law said something to me that was inappropriate!!! I went right over and told my husband!!! if you're not afraid you might get a beat down neither am I!! oh well🤷♀
So sad! Traci was the closest to her brother’s children. I’m sure loosing her was not easy either. I could see this also being another reason Traci distanced herself from her sisters. 🙏🏽🌹🙏🏽
I'm sorry this happened to her. While it's important to share these stories...I hope she gets real help and doesn't feel pressed to disclose her journey to the internet going forward.
The aunt she's talking about is not Toni neither Towanda because Ashlee was on the show as Toni's assistant and I remember she was very close to Towanda.. I saw a few clips of her and Tamar... Maybe it's Trina... Because we know Gabe had a sex addiction. RIP
In my community, this is still considered a huge taboo. It happened to me, and when I told 2 family members, they were shocked but acted like I hadn’t said anything. It was never mentioned again, and no one asked how I was doing. Please consider going to therapy, or sometimes it’s even better to talk to friends rather than family
I hate hearing this! 🤬 Sorry it happened to u. How can u ignore someone telling u something like this?!! I was raise to always speak up about anything, abuse, etc. My parents were raised the same way, I don't understand sweeping topics like this under the rug.
When ppl in the comment section are asking “WHY” has she waited so long”. Trauma runs deep and, it seems to me, the Braxton’s are sticking together & no longer believing her. What a shame. Victims, imo, can live with their trauma for years. My heart breaks for her. Abuse doesn’t pick a nationality.
Jule, i recoil when people use the "what took you so long" , not understanding that processing things in real time and afterward always take time. unless someone pulls the plug , people usually can't snap out of the trauma in progress.
It could almost lead to Kevin, Traci's husband, simply because both families stayed in Baltimore while everyone else was in Atlanta so you would think, because of proximity, it could have likely been him; however, the fact she makes it sound that the strain in relationship between herself and her aunt is ongoing, it assumes it's an aunt that's still living so that rules out Traci and Kevin
@@tipennya she said they would go away for the summers to live with this aunt (Traci and that niece lived in the same city as you stated) plus if it was Traci’s husband, the family wouldn’t have sided with him because they never liked him. Ashley also said, her aunt’s “then partner” as if they’re no longer together…Traci never divorced Kevin.
Because she went away to spend a summer with the aunt, I think it's one of those Atl aunts. She liked a comment, so a lot of people think it was Trina & Gabe. She was cool w Toni, Tawonda, and Tamar on the show. She was grown then.
I'm glad to see in these comments that she basically confirmed it was Gabe because the blame needs to be applied properly. I hate to see innocent people getting accused of something so heinous. And isn't it obvious to anyone who watched the Gabe seasons that it was him with his deviant uncontrolled sex addiction???😫
Families need to stop protecting the pedo and shun them instead of shunning the victim
@haitianredbone 🎯 THANK YOU!!!
I wish she would’ve named him!
Exactly
@@kittyboo2121it’s Gabe Trina ex husband because he’s a creep and was a serial cheater and had a sex addiction
Soooooooooo true. !!!!!!!!
It should not have mattered who it was or what she did, as a 16-year-old CHILD she should have been protected.
Period!!!
She still wouldn’t be able to trust her.
@@TheeCookingChannelHope you're not a mother of young girls.
@@Tybennie-nz7vr 16 is not a young girl. Many 16 year olds are sexually active (not children) that’s 2 year’s away from being 18. Driving working the whole 9
Maybe I missed something but she was protected. Didn't she say her stepmother found the text messages and told the father? Who then confronted the husband of the aunts? Seems like her parents did the right thing and confronted the situation.
Wow…She looks just like Towanda! The Braxton DNA is strong.
StrOOOOOOOOOONGUH!!!!
@@eebz5mannnnnn that’s all I keep saying. I thought it was her daughter
Yepp Towandas daughter...
She sure does! ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!❤❤😂
I thought she looks more like Tamar (from the early 2000's)
I will understand why people asked, why now. It doesn’t matter. I met a 90 year old woman in NYC. Never married and never had kids because she was SA as a child by her uncle. She said that it always feels like it happened yesterday. It takes courage to tell your story. It may take a year or 50 years.
It's just that after so long, no one cares. Life goes on with or without you. Just take it to your grave. We've all had some kind of traumatizing experience. It's life 🤷🤷
@@ralphangel561 Lots of people care🙁
Period
@ralphangel561 This must be your response to a 'wrong answers only' challenge.
Thank you for sharing this!
When will people realize that trauma is not always disclosed in that moment. It can take years to disclose.
@@vitahall4552 and the meantime he's getting away..tell as soon as it happens
Just keep it to yourself, get some help and take it to your grave
So true, maybe decades ♥️
Get a therapist...she's done nothing of importance...why smear your family name....go heal
@alexjonhson3765 yes....was abused at ages 6 9,15....and many other micro inappropriate sexual acts with other children in-between.....all this trauma did not come to a head until age 47.....once it came up..the sorrow from abuse I then suffered as an adult came up as the unhealed trauma unfortunately informed how I chose partners...trauma is so layered
Regardless of which sister’s husband, this act was disgusting, and shame on her aunt. Sadly this happens to frequently in families. I wish her the most healing on her journey.
I told a grown family member about my abuser and she didn’t believe me. And because she was my favorite aunt I felt like if she didn’t believe me, no one else would. After that I clung to my daddy and brothers. After growing up I went to therapy to help release the pain of it all and get the clarity that I needed. I then was able to tell my mother. Only to find out that this had happened to her too. It’s important to know it’s not your fault and you did nothing wrong. Healing is beautiful thing. ❤
Wow. Thank you for sharing your story.
🙏🏾
I also had cousin molest me. They didn't believe me. Ruined my family connection for life. I suppressed like we all do but it made me crazy
Oh my I'm sorry that happened to you
@@denisekinzle1672 I think that suppressing it is part of the problem and the only person it is hurting is you. Please get some help if you can. It made me feel so much better.
Also she stated: “then partner at the time”. Which eliminates Traci. Traci never changed partners. She is the only sister who was with her husband until she transitioned
♥️🕊️♥️
@@jamelsmoak3492 thanks for clocking this
Tamar didn't change partners when this lady was 16 either. She was married to Vincent.
Then partner could mean at the time of the incident, they were not married but later married.
@@nikkin.9206I thought they divorced when she was younger?
When they went to therapy with Iyanla, didn’t Tamar say that a family member abused her when she was younger and their family did nothing, which is why she is the way she is.
Sure did, and she is the baby….
Yes. And it wasn't just Tamar. I believe a couple of other sisters were abused as well. I want to say Trina and Trina but I'm not sure.
Yes she did
i've been telling folks for years that's why she went off on Iyanla. But Mama Evelyn only saw Tamar as being "disrespectful". which is typical in the black community.
Yes she did!!!!
She looks like she could be Tawanda"a child. DNA is real
Beautiful young woman.
Yes she looks more like Tawanda then her actual children
funny how some folks were saying Towanda wasn't a blood Braxton because she didn't look like her sisters. smh
She honestly could’ve been the next braxton star if she wanted. She was always so pretty and talented.
@@niecyj.1782Exactly. IF anyone actually watched the show or seen pictures of their family, Michael Sr. nostrils are a distinct feature. Towanda has that same distinct feature, and so does Ashley.
This girl has gone through so much. Estranged from her mother, abuse from her stepmom, and her sister dying.
Alot . It's sooooo sad
She will make it, if she continue to pray. Many people have been through worst. Our ancestors been through alot.
I’m 47 now and the same thing happened to me. Black families are good at banding together to sweep things up under the rug and turning on the victim or the minor in the situation.
Yep!
It's not just black people. I'm a MHT and hear these type of stories from all different racial/ethnic groups
This behavior is not exclusively to Black families.
Unfortunately so true!!!!!
That toxic behavior is in ALL families. Black families just don’t go to therapy, so they assume it’s only them. 😒
She never has to say who her abuser is , the Family knows and her healing is soooo amazing. She will be for others a light in the darkness 🙏🏽👑💜⚖️
She actually does. Because she could be making it all up then who's to say? It's really messy actually. Because that leaves a door open for everyone to be attacked because of her sloppy allegations against someone. Have full disclosure or don't say anything at all
Thats btw her and God …. Her truth is her truth and those who have been through the same understand!
She’s healing she’s not the police! Not saying anything at all and living with it has been done long enough, GB
@@ralphangel561 No she doesn’t.
It was Gabe Trina ex husband we all know he was a creep and he was a serial cheater and had a sex addiction
She liked a comment confirming who.
Unfortunately, not everyone seen that…so it leaves room for interpretation & others to be attacked.
Telling a story and not saying a name leaves the door wide open for online weirdos to attack who they assume it is. I understand wanting to talk to ppl about your trauma, but that puts a target on most of the partners who have been a part of the family to be attacked and ridiculed…which is not fair to the ones who did nothing.
THIS! it leaves the door wide open for the crazies to attack any sister they "feel" it is.
Agreed.
She did not need to share this with the world for the very reasons you pointed out.
Everyone will assume Tamar.
Because doing stuff is very messy and thirsty for attention
Exactly
Mikey and Towanda look so different but his daughter came out looking like her 😂
That’s what got
Me
She has her father's nose and eyes.
Towanda said Mikey named her and she was basically like WTH he pick that name for, so maybe that niece having her whole face is his karma 😂
@@924MUSICMichael looks just like his father to me and Towanda looks just like her mother, so that’s why we have a mini Towanda!
The "what happens in this house stays in this house" is toxic. And most of us grew up in homes like this. Lots of trauma 😞
I didn't grow up like this, and my parents didn't either. That quote is only good for things like financial issues, or topics other than abuse!
I think it’s Trina and Gabe. She said “this man did you like that on tv”… definitely giving Gabe vibes
Trina seems pretty empathetic, it seems more like Towanda. Her husband was on TV cheating too and barely watching their kids
I am Praying for Ashley!!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@sinamen516
I feel the same way. Towanda is known for being a very good secret keeper. When she was Toni's assistant, she developed a company to train aspiring celebrity assistants. It was called "Secret Squirrel". Discretion is very important working with celebrities. Towanda stayed with her ex-husband Andre for years but was not truly happy.
Me too
I mean all the husbands did or have behaved disrespectfully on their T.V shows at some point. 💁🏽♀️ Everyone says do this don’t do this until it’s their own story. Sad. Wait so this is their brother, Mike’s daughter, his daughter passed away and I recall something being read in Tracie’s will about Mike’s daughter’s ashes going to Tracie’s husband. I thought it sounded odd at the time. I can’t remember where I saw this at a while ago.
As a survivor I understand her silence. I was afraid of family reaction as a child and as adult didn't want to crush my parent
It's not fair to u to have to suffer for so long just to spare someone else's feelings! What about YOUR feelings? I don't know if u ever told anyone, but I hope u get the strength to, & always remember it's not your fault!!
I was widowed @ 29. Of course I wasn't up to
socializing for months etc. My sister calls 1 day to say she,her husband & son had tickets to go to a concert in a Relatively small venue. My sister had decided she didnt want to go, if I wanted to get out I was more than welcome to her ticket. I reluctantly said sure, thx you. During the concert everyone on the bottom floor of the venue were standing, my brother in law was behind me, my nephew to the right. Keep in mind it is packed my nephew couldnt see anything. My brother in law put his arms around my hips slipped his hands into my front pockets. As if we were an effing couple! I was stunned. I squeezed my way to the other side of my nephew. The entire ride nothing was said about it. I broke my neck to tell 1 sister, she immediately called the sister whose husband was being inappropriate. Needless to say a divorce happened soon after. This was 30 yrs ago. I dont remember my sister or I talking about it. Maybe we did. Apparently she didn't doubt the story. It's never been talked about since. The brother in law moved away. I've not seen him since. I was an adult. 29 yrs old. It genuinely freaked me out. I couldnt imagine being 16. Idk how any man would do this. When they marry our sister we pretty much see them as our brother. For a grown man to look at his sister in law in a sexual way is disgusting. Imo.
Wow!
Wow, glad she believed you. If I were her I would've wanted to talk to u about it.
@@caligirl2779💯
Sexüal abuse run in the Braxton’s family because Tamar was molested by someone in the family as well. This is tragic.
Stuff like that always happens in large families idk why
@@THEDOORIZCLOSED the more players; the more likely it is to have an abuser(s) amongst them + being very religious somehow makes it even more prevalent.
@@AP-ts3lfYOU SAID IT!! It’s something with the families with player fathers or the ‘religious’ families. My father and my uncle were a ladies man back in the day , I didn’t find anything out untill I grew up. Let’s just say it’s a lot of inappropriate activity going on with the uncles and their nieces. The church is no better. Some churches have staff members that want young boys. Sexual perversion is on the rise.
So was Traci.
@ u beat me to it. My parents come from large families and religious. Dads side was six kids, moms was nine. Again, religious and YES physical, verbal and sxxxual abuse on both sides. Sickening
Justice & healing for Ashley 🙏 ♥️
Cant be Traci because she said that it happened when she was away spending the summer with the aunt. Traci lived in the same city as her brother.
Right‼️💯🎯 Plus if it was Traci’s husband (Kevin) the family wouldn’t have sided with him because they never liked him.
♥️🕊️♥️
Kevin Sr. was given the sister's ashes in Traci's will, which let's you know their home might have been a safe place for Mike's kids.
Thank you, ok so Traci and Toni are ruled out. That leaves Trina, Towanda, and Tamar 🤔
@@LorenCognita if I’m not mistaken, Tamar and Vince lived in L.A at that time.... This niece spent a lot of time with Tawanda and resided with her because she was the assistant to Tawanda in assisting Toni. Ashley was on the 1st and I believe the second season too….she said she was the closet to Tawanda. She said her and the aunt whose husband did this to her was her favorite aunt.
This is what happens when we don’t deal with child sexual abuse. It is going to come out in one way or another. I don’t understand why, in most molestation situations people tend to protect the abuser. I was sexually abused when I was a child and the abuser was protected as well. I was left to deal with trauma on my own. I applaud Ashley, she is doing what she needs to heal. Her Aunt probably needs to heal from this as well. God bless all parties involved
Has it ever occurred to you that the Aunt probably distanced herself from Ashley could be her way of healing. This did happen 16 years ago and Ashley has since moved abroad. People grow apart. Especially if they live long distance. Two sides to every story.
You never know what goes on behind closed doors. Ashlee did an interview about this last year, she spoke about it all!!! She was very honest & genuine . I’m glad she had the courage to speak out about her childhood trauma.
She liked on a post about it being ‘Trina and Gabe’… whew!. Trina gives desperate vibes and Gabe (no disrespect) was constantly cheating…
Thatsexactly who I thought it was…
I was trying to think of the aunt name but I was thinking light skin Gabe.
Yep!
Someone said it was Towanda's ex husband
@@chaycesmom1212 But Towanda didn't like that guy 😂
as a survivor tell your story my was slept under the rug and no one cared
I’msorry this happened to you.💔
Prayers for you. I understand. my experience was a secret until l spoke up for myself, and it was blown off as bs. I was grown when I said something, and the response broke my heart.
@@tamarahill5656 yes it always the survivor fault xoxox
@@maryjanesbaby9392 xoxox
We care ♥️🙏♥️
How come none of them feel comfortable telling their grandma Ms E about anything. When Tracie son was in trouble you’d think he’d call grandma. Ms E doesn’t seem like she’s there for her grandchildren.
Miss Evelyn didn’t even know Tamar was molested as a child.
She isn’t there for her daughters either, Tamar said she was SA as a child and that’s swept under the rug.
@@jasmineartis5754i was going to say the same thing!
Miss E is one of those old school religious mothers who is about image. She’s focused on where the money is. Whenever you see her, she’s usually with their most successful daughters (Toni and Tamar.)
@@strwbery10 Ms E to busy trying to stay and look young without having a Grandma title and duties
If you're going to tell it, tell it. Stop allowing these predators to roam free and abuse others.
Gabe is dead now.
Rt she liked a gabe comment on TicToc @@toshalindsey6115
@@toshalindsey6115my exact thoughts
@toshalindsey6115 He wasn't 16 years ago.
And she wasn’t ready to tell it 16 years ago……..
Remember Tamar was quiet about her SA by the hands of relative until the Iyanla vanzant counseling session 🤔🙄
The family was aware of it.
I just watched her interviews. Ashley been through a lot. I’m praying for her healing and she truly finds peace with her trauma she had to endure. Her parents should be ashamed of themselves. Just sad
So her aunt was upset with her for inappropriate activity with her husband but stayed with her husband. Wow. I want to hear the aunt's perspective.
Trina have nothing to say.
Well they all divorced their husbands except Traci. 🙄
@sophiarose7610 and Gabe and traci. are no longer living. Both Gabe and Traci died from cancer but 4 years apart
Yes the Aunty must tell us
You have to be sensitive to both sides of a story. Not just one side. Who's to say it could have been the other way around??
What goes on in the dark will one day come to the light
why does everyone fel the need to say this. it goes unsaid, its so dumb
Remember she was on the show in earlier seasons as Toni Braxton assistant to Towanda and she did back up with Toni Braxton at times!!
I remember, i just rewatched after Traci died and she was so close to them
I remember.... I wonder why they never introduced her on show .... now I now.... the secrets never end with them
@@MamaTach925♥️🙏♥️
@@shaypatrice4368She was on the show but she left the country after her sister passed away from a drug overdose.She has been living out of the US for 10 years now .
I don’t think she should be pressured to share names
She should drop the name and file charges if she has evidence.
@ why? Maybe that’s not what she needs to heal and doesn’t want to deal with that. Or maybe it’s Gabe… a dead man. Maybe she doesn’t want anyone else involved in the way she tells her story. If she shares names it goes from her story to her more famous aunts story. It’s for her to choose and it’s not supportive to pressure people.
@@MsColetha Gabe is dead. She can't press charges on him now.
@ yikes I had no idea
@@MsColetha Do cellphone companies keep text messages going back 16 years?
I’m a witness. Family can be so hurtful and devastatingly neglectful! 😢 I’m a witness and living testimony.
Unfortunately so true😢😢😢
I gotta be honest im so sick of this dang family. Like you people need to turn back to Christ. It's exhausting.
I truly dislike the way they move! So chaotic … we cannot help her… she wanted to feel she should’ve went to a support meeting and told those people
Perhaps they were hiding behind Christ all along & now they’re revealing that
@talkindurinthemovie what does Christ have to do with anything? You think Christ prevents sexual abuse? I’d point you to the Catholic Church, the southern Baptist mafia or any little town church in any town USA. Sick of the family but in here watching & commenting about the family 🙄
It's not just this family.
It's not toni or tamar because they really didn't like know one stay at there house ever. It not traci. It's either trina or Towanda. The Black family has to stop pushing this subject under the rug, and women stop staying with a man who violates your child and /or children. Shame on you who stay!
I agree
She said she went there for the summer
It's not Traci, she was very close to her deceased sister and was married until the end. Towanda hated Andre.
I believe the niece. This sounds EXACTLY like something those toxic pick-me's would do.
I believer her as well but what does she wants us to do with the information? What's her goal? Does she want a close relationship with Auntie? If so, what on earth can we do about it?
I told my mom at my abusers funeral and she still didn't believe me and said I was lying
Sorry to hear that. You haven’t done anything wrong ❤
@@memedicine1 I'm sorry 😞
I'm sorry 😢
🥺💔So sorry. Unfortunately sometimes we have to take charge of our own healing
That’s so sad; we believe you. Stay strong ❤
I’m thinking Towanda. By Trina having 2 sons and always in a rocky place in her relationship, I can’t see Michael sending his girls to stay with Trina. However, Ashley’s sister did stay with Towanda who seems the be the most “family oriented” sister. And she also called her ex her partner.
My mind almost immediately went to Towanda’s husband ..
I was thinking this too. It makes sense because Ashley ended up being Toni's assistant for some time and it would have made sense for her aunt (towanda) to train her and let her stay.
@@___toyatootrill Me too.
I think so too! You right
I was thinking the same thing. And honestly she's the only one I can see STILL not talking to her niece. Towanda always felt sneaky and devious to me.
I got a feeling something was said during this holiday season that made her come out and tell her story!
Yess❤
girl those family gatherings can be cringy especially if alcohol is served. Somebody is going to start some mess or get some ish off their chests.
She hasn't likved in the US for 10 years since her sister died .Maybe now that gabe has passed and Trina has a whole new husband she thinks it's time to say something.
@ Yes or maybe she reached out to that aunt for the holidays and didn’t get the response she wanted! For her to come out around Christmas and New Year’s something was said! I’m sure she talked to somebody before making that TikTok video about her family!
This happened in my family to my parent and to myself and siblings. Proud of her for speaking out 🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️🩹
My heart is broken for Ashley 😞 please protect children from predators. Praying for her healing journey 💕
It's not Tracy's husband. She said aunt is currently not talking to her and Tracy has passed.
And Traci was very close to her deceased sister
And another comment someone mentioned that Tracy never switched partners.
I agree because she said she stayed with her auntie for the summer. Micheal and Tracy both lived in Baltimore.
Right, that's what I was going to say.
Wow Towanda's twin
I have a little cousin that looks exactly like her Aunt. This young lady could be Towanda's daughter! OMG!
Latrese, genes are a mystery, Ashlee's gorgeous. Latrese you look like Candice Patton , same soulful smile .
I have been holding my pain for over 30 yrs because I know some of my family wont believe me and it also will hurt my brother 💔
Praying for your healing and for God to give you guidance on how to move! I can only imagine what you’re feeling but I hope this post you made starts to create peace for you.
@AllegedlyAlyce 💞
♥️🙏♥️
Is there a friend, or someone u trust that u can tell? So sorry for whatever happened to u, but it's not your fault and even if someone in your fam doesn't believe u, know that's THEIR problem, they heard u and u spoke the TRUTH!
Now this is true dedication, I'm not yet finished the 3 hours plus video, but Kempire already dropped another one. The devil got nothing on this man when it came to hard work
I think she’s talking about Gabe and Trina. I vaguely remember them talking a little about this when the series first started. The sisters were talking to Trina about all the reasons why she should leave him.
@@rae841 Gabe immediately came to mind because he was a womanizer
But she remarried him
I was thinking of Trina's ex Gabe.
Hhmmm
And if you noticed they never had kids out of all of her sisters they are the only couple that didn’t have children’s together and she was drinking like crazy season one.
She is beautiful. Im so proud of her work. I hate she had to deal with these things. I'm praying for that beautiful young woman.
Tawanda husband was doing her crazy on the show as well. So yea it's given Tawanda or Trina husband
How
@Pruffin334 what do you mean?
Towanda was trying to find any reason to divorce jobless Andre😂
@@encorewithe2482Yea Andre was alot of things but inappropriate wasn't 1 .Towanda would have put him on blast and file for divorce the same time
This is a story for a therapist, not the public. The public is eating up the gossip, meanwhile this situation has probably hurt many who don't sound healed to me!
How are you going to tell someone how they can share their story. People always want victims to protect their abusers. If you don’t want to be embarrassed about your actions, don’t act that way.
@pialovebsnrnccbtp So you're more concerned that people who hurt this young woman are going to be hurt, but not as concerned for the hurt she endured herself and want her to be silent about it...yeah sure, that's healthy...
I remember on one of the episodes after Traci passed away. Tamar, spoke on them keeping secrets and she was very upset about them holding onto secrets.
I'm feeling like it's Trina and Gabe. Then when she says how he treated her, if you do process of elimnation all roads lead to them. This may be why on the show the family had so much disgust/disdain for Gabe. I even remeber one season where the angle suggested that he was abusive, but I didn't understand how based on what they showed. Mmmm wow ❤❤❤❤may peace be with the Niece and much love on her healing journey. It's time.
I thought of gabe too.
As a longtime viewer of BFV: There’s such a pattern of avoiding conflict, brushing problems under the rug and being passive aggressive..emotions bottled up inside without a release. They don’t like to talk and process problems. And this is another example of someone, a child, who has suffered because of it. Generations that don’t talk and handle problems. I am very happy she found her voice and know this was not right. Powerful.
💯💯💯
Now y’all see why Toni said if they “weren’t her family, they wouldn’t be her friends”, and why she just plays the rich auntie, pops in with her shades, acts confused, and then jumps on her jet right back to LA. That family is a MESS! 😂
So many have suffered in silence for so long. The more we speak out about it and bring it to light, the more those who were traumatized can begin to heal.”
When I was SA d at 22. I did not say a thing until three years later.. it takes so much courage and emotional energy to relive the moment in storytelling.
She looks exactly like aunty Towanda. Beautiful girl, beautiful spirit, I’m glad she feels safe and brave enough to speak her truth. Outsiders don’t get the right to dictate when a person gets to get to tell their story…When your ready, your ready, period ❤
Brandy, genes are insane, she 100% looks like a mini Tawanda . same elevated, pretty cheekbones .
Ashlee sounds "swirly" , i am 100% sure her husband/bf is cocasian . she has maxed swirlie energy.
She’s such a beautiful young lady, prayers for her continued healing.
I'm sorry, but social media is not a safe place. She is going to get so much hate and attacks. Smh this is gonna make it worse on her. Nobody is gonna care about who it is, but most ppl will only go on the attack on her. The Internet is a crazy place.
Sorry, to say lot of woman protect SA especially if it is their man or son.
God bless her…. I know what it’s like because I’ve been there. I was physically attacked for saying what happened to me. The best thing you can do is just love yourself, forgive, and know that you have immense value no matter how others treated you 🫶🏾
It’s definitely Trina and Gabe. Someone commented saying they thought it was them and Ashlee likes their comment.
Nobody has the right to tell a person who was abused when or when not to speak up. Trauma is trauma, and it takes years before people speak out.😢😢😢
Well see how they shut Tamar down wen she was pushed forward with her secret of abuse... they even call Tamar an attention seeker...
Probably the root of why tamar has so many issues
I know people get frustrated with how people choose to tell their story, but this could be a cry for help. It’s her story and you don’t have to listen if you don’t want to. Her family is so toxic, she may have no one else to turn to. What if this were your child? We have become so desensitized and harsh, it’s so sad, but not surprising! I’ve been through this and it’s much easier just to shut up and suppress it because people will make you feel even worse about it. This comment section is proof. Yes, I get it she should go to a therapist, but she deserves to tell her story! God forbid something like this happens to anyone, I just hope you’re not met with these very comments or in my case gone through it and have to read comments that re-trigger your trauma. 😑🤦🏽♀️
No, she already told her family. It's already been out to the people that matter. No reason to tell us and put a cloud around the entire family and all the men involved while the actual guilty man escaped all the blame. Just because you are a victim doesn't give you a right to do that to innocent folks.
It’s towanda’s husband. Another blogger has been hinting at it for years
She actually liked a Gabe comment on Tic Tok smh
She's been hinting toward something inappropriate with towandas daughter and her current fiancee
I think it is too or Trina first husband
@roberttaylor5026 trina was married twice before she married Vaughn so Gabe is her second husband and even if it was him he is no longer living
@@powerfulmanifestormentors yes 👍🏾 that’s what I have been hearing about
Ppl asking why she’s just now saying something are part of the problem.. victims don’t speak out because of ppl asking dumb questions like this!!
And clearly her family KNEW, that’s all that matters. She didn’t need to announce it for your entertainment. She’s speaking on it now because SHE is choosing to, point blank!
Girl! Reading the comments, I can see why we as women are apart of the problem of people not speaking up.
Remember Gabe got caught having a computer lover…the niece saying what went on on the show she was involved with. Hmmm.
I was waiting for the part in which she revealed that her dad--AND GRANDDAD--beat the guy's ass!!! That part never happened.
They both look like punks, so nothing would happen
I’m starting to think that the men in that family are Betas sorry. They let the women run the family and take a back seat…that’s how this type of stuff happens so freely in families. Households need strong male figures to lead
I’m sorry but the internet is giving me the same feeling I get when I go to IKEA. Where’s the nearest exit? How do I get out of here? I’m tired of people coming on the internet doing their makeup trying to drop vague family tea (not wanting to say names) but are in the comment section liking posts to give hints about who they’re talking about. Then just say their name. I’m not trauma bonding with strangers on the internet in 2025. I hope she continues therapy and everything works out for her and her mental health. Hopefully, she gets an apology from whoever owes her one.
Christian Keyes did the same thing. Praying she gets the help she needs but these social media reveals aren't the best means to get help IMO. The rest of the world doesn't need to be in your business.
I thought it odd as well dropping this news while putting on makeup. As if she's giving advice on beauty tips, instead of a life trauma!? I guess she needed a distraction as she spoke abt it??! Idk! 🤷🏽♀️
The way I overstood this one 😩 it’s like we looked at all these beautiful pieces… wrote down the numbers and got to the 2024 section (the warehouse area) only to see that same couch is literally in pieces… and now the pieces are being given to us to put together with basic picture drawn illustrations 🤦🏽♀️ which can feel like trauma dumping
Some ppl in here are saying she "liked" a comment about Trina & Gabe on TikTok..I dunno, I'm not on there...
It's Kempire facial expressions for me! Nevertheless, prayers to her & the entire family!
Lol. Like girl tell the story and stop the makeup.
I saw this on another site . How sad . She looks like Towanda
This an issue that should be discussed with the family and nog the internet. Who heals when you discussed this on the Internet?
Thanks for covering this in the way they you did Kempire💝
Look here, I was 7 when a family’s friend son molested me and it took me seven years to tell my mother, and the way she cried I NEVER want to hear that sound again. I can’t imagine if I told her when I was younger. Dude would of probably been dead. Unfortunately my father didn’t 100 percent believe me because he told us about “the birds and bees, and don’t let anyone touch you down there” yea you did, but try being a child when that happens. Sad all the way around.
I am so very sorry that you went through that. I hope that you've been able to go to therapy and get the support /counseling that you need. This happens a lot to young black men and a lot of times been don't talk about it. Thank you for sharing your story 🙏🏾
somehow males know from a young age that females won't say anything if they act inappropriately!!!...females need to be taught to tell!! tell!!! tell! so that males become afraid to do something they shouldn't!!...I'm 30yrs old and my brother in law said something to me that was inappropriate!!! I went right over and told my husband!!! if you're not afraid you might get a beat down neither am I!! oh well🤷♀
So sad! Traci was the closest to her brother’s children. I’m sure loosing her was not easy either. I could see this also being another reason Traci distanced herself from her sisters. 🙏🏽🌹🙏🏽
Kempire she has interviews out there of her talking about her sister being physically abused by her stepmother
I'm sorry this happened to her. While it's important to share these stories...I hope she gets real help and doesn't feel pressed to disclose her journey to the internet going forward.
The aunt she's talking about is not Toni neither Towanda because Ashlee was on the show as Toni's assistant and I remember she was very close to Towanda.. I saw a few clips of her and Tamar... Maybe it's Trina... Because we know Gabe had a sex addiction. RIP
I wonder if this is why Tamar didn't attend the niece's ⚰️ a few years ago 😭😬
She doesn’t say husband she says partner 🤔 Does they mean they weren’t married at the time?
A lot of people refer to their husbands and wives as partners.
@@missyb57 I heard that…They way she worded it means something IMO
Lots of people who live outside of the US say partner
In my community, this is still considered a huge taboo. It happened to me, and when I told 2 family members, they were shocked but acted like I hadn’t said anything. It was never mentioned again, and no one asked how I was doing. Please consider going to therapy, or sometimes it’s even better to talk to friends rather than family
I hate hearing this! 🤬 Sorry it happened to u. How can u ignore someone telling u something like this?!! I was raise to always speak up about anything, abuse, etc. My parents were raised the same way, I don't understand sweeping topics like this under the rug.
She was probably labeled as “too fast”.
SEXUAL ABUSE AND MOLESTION IS NOT "GOSSIP"😮
It’s Micheal’s daughter! 0:10 only make sibling! She looks so much like her Auntie Towanda! She’s stunning!
Shame on the Braxton family. They are so messed up.
She looks just like towanda. She's gorgeous.
When ppl in the comment section are asking “WHY” has she waited so long”. Trauma runs deep and, it seems to me, the Braxton’s are sticking together & no longer believing her. What a shame. Victims, imo, can live with their trauma for years. My heart breaks for her. Abuse doesn’t pick a nationality.
Jule, i recoil when people use the "what took you so long" , not understanding that processing things in real time and afterward always take time. unless someone pulls the plug , people usually can't snap out of the trauma in progress.
I don’t think Vince would do that
My mom didn't believe me when I told her that I had been abused.
Its giving Trina.
Why is that Gingerbread man doin the dab on your sweater....Get it Kemp, so cute 🥰... can't 🛑 won't 🛑
Andre or Gabe
Idky, but the way she said "that guy" made me instantly think of Gabe. Maybe she felt "safer" to put it out because he has passed away.
It could almost lead to Kevin, Traci's husband, simply because both families stayed in Baltimore while everyone else was in Atlanta so you would think, because of proximity, it could have likely been him; however, the fact she makes it sound that the strain in relationship between herself and her aunt is ongoing, it assumes it's an aunt that's still living so that rules out Traci and Kevin
@@tipennya she said they would go away for the summers to live with this aunt (Traci and that niece lived in the same city as you stated) plus if it was Traci’s husband, the family wouldn’t have sided with him because they never liked him. Ashley also said, her aunt’s “then partner” as if they’re no longer together…Traci never divorced Kevin.
Because she went away to spend a summer with the aunt, I think it's one of those Atl aunts. She liked a comment, so a lot of people think it was Trina & Gabe. She was cool w Toni, Tawonda, and Tamar on the show. She was grown then.
I'm glad to see in these comments that she basically confirmed it was Gabe because the blame needs to be applied properly. I hate to see innocent people getting accused of something so heinous. And isn't it obvious to anyone who watched the Gabe seasons that it was him with his deviant uncontrolled sex addiction???😫
Please have him arrested n have a grand jury take him to trial it’s no statue of limitations on this type of case
Someone who died can't be arrested...figure that out.
She said nothing happened but the aunt doesn’t speak to her because of a conversation
I think it was Towanda’s husband. She happens to look just like her too. 😢