evelyn’s father was an absolute real one, called the house got no answer, drove straight there & started knocking on doors & looking in windows, & broke into the basement when he saw thing were amiss he is the “taken” dad, much respect lmao
Called the house got no answer, drove straight there & started knocking on doors & looking in the windows, & broke into the basement when he saw thing where amiss he is taken Dad
CoyoteTa81 I too thought the same thing. .even though it was a different time / things were different back then. you wouldn't get me to leave my child with someone I never met. just absolutely crazy.
the kid must feel so much guilt for not being able to stop the man from kidnapping his sister. Imagine witnessing that and then the cops think you made it up. Total nightmare.
Her parents died in 1986 (dad) and 2002 (mom) respectively. I know they both died knowing that their daughter was probably in heaven, but knew for sure that her killer would never be caught. No parent should have to live 38 years or 49 years not knowing where their child was it’s heartbreaking. God bless Richard and Ethel Hartley.
@@evanshiong3557I agree. No parent should ever have to endure any of the agony that goes along with losing a child in such a horrific way. Especially never knowing truly what happened. Thanks for the info.
Believe it or not people do it all the time, even these days. I was hired off Facebook, never met the mom or child before I was hired. The mother never asked for references , my id or checked me out. It actually scared me for the child's future
@@angelfolmar2732 Yea that is crazy There's no way I would be ok w myself I don't even let ppl I do kno watch my kids Only my family once in a blue moon Some ppl just don't care I guess...
Things like this have made me install home security but it will always make me worry for the females in my life especially given how theyre the most common victims
I remember years ago when Steven Steiner was abducted held for years by a man named Parnell when Parnell abducted another child Steven remembered that the same thing had happened to him he took the child and went to the police the child’s parents rewarded Steven with the reward money Steven returned home but struggled to fit in at home he did marry but was killed in a car accident sometime later a few years passed I woke to the news that Stacy Steiner brother of Steven had abducted and killed four girls in Yosemite National Park it was said later that he had been seeking attention like Steven had gotten from when he was abducted years earlier
That facebook post may have been a tactic to get catch the killer that failed terribly.. A somewhat common tactic in catching criminals without evidence is to announce that you know who it is and once this information becomes popularly talked about the criminal will fear getting caught and get sloppier or stop altogether. It is still a shady way to catch a criminal and brings false hope to victim's families.
There are four types of serial killers which would get sloppy or stop?? (1). The Visionary Motive Type, (2) The Missionary-Oriented Motive Type, (3). The Thrill-Oriented Motive Type, (4). The Lust Killer, Take your pick? None of these types will never get sloppy or stop.
I live in Preston which is 1 hour and 20 minutes away from Pocatello. Pocatello, (pronounced POKE-A-TELL-O) is the meth capital of Idaho. it's a college town, total party city, not a "Mormon" or "White Separatist" city. the cops there are just like any big city cops, lazy! unlike small town cops they act like they don't have to answer to anyone because they are so disconnected from the public. Now the cops in my town actually DO their jobs because if they don't, they have all 5,000 of us to answer to! small town cops are just better all the way around. just like people. I have lived in big cities and in small towns I lived in different states as well (military wife). People in small towns are just better because they actually care about their neighbors and their community.
maybe the killer had a stroke and was in a nursing home... or dead... u can't convict someone in poor health or someone deceased and their family can sue for defemation of character.
Yep. I watch a lot of this sort of thing these days, and find myself doing much the same things. I think on my end it stems from wondering wth I would do in some of these situations.
strawberryy princess SAME . My friend thinks I'm paranoid .. if being extremely aware of your surroundings and really observant at all times is paranoid to them , then yeah I guess lol
Umm especially when the little boy saw this man running out of the house with his sister!!! Those could have saved her but instead dicked around and let her die
@@kevinzhu6417 this happens in the states waaaay too often. yearly black, indigenous, and hispanic young girls and women go "missing" (see trafficked or murdered) cops just say "well maybe they chose to run away" because much of the time the girls come from impoverished neighborhoods. so they automatically believe these girls instead of being kidnapped. the cops here only care if youre from lower to upper middle class. many states are only now making laws where you dont get charges if you have drugs and call emergency for someone oding. this only happened because opiates, heroin and fetynal hit middle class neighborhoods. meanwhile in the working and lower classes many are still arrested on drug charges for calling 911 on ods . its unreal how the privilged get treated :/
The police officers involved should be dismissed immediately. I’m a pro-police kind of girl but this is absolute negligence. I’m stunned that this happened.
The Jaidyn case was just bizarre. "He's at the hospital, he was burned, but I can't take u to him, go to sleep." "Just kidding, I don't know where he is, but I didn't call the cops to report a kidnapping." "Oh, look, my ex-girlfriend is hurling decapitated animal heads at my house, lol"
Exactly. The fact that he lied about where the kid was the night it happen is already really guilty. Plus the jacket and wallet were wet. The reason he didn't wont to call the police for the vandalism was because he didn't want police asking questions like what was he doing that day who was he with and before you know it there asking him what happen to the child he was taking care of? I'm guessing they would have found more damning evidence in his house or in his car if the mother wasn't such a total sack of shit for a parent. My guess is that he was already upset that his pet pig had gone missing and probably fights with his ex all while his taking care of this child who needs attention and is crying and he snapped and killed him. It seems to match since it was a very sloppy crime it wasn't planned. The way he lies to the mother the night of even backs that up since he's just rolling with the punches trying to buy time. The people who vandalized his home are connected in that they were probably the reason he snapped and killed the young boy not from the incident with the pig head but I'm sure they had other run ins earlier that day or the day before adding to his rage and stress. And the fact that someone so careless and so blatantly guilty could get away with a crime so horrible like this is unbelievable.
"they never considered the injuries all happened at once" EXACTLY! If he was being violent enough to snap a bone, than he was obviously out of control and could have easily killed the kid at the same time.
I've watched a lot of these old mystery cases and found one thing most of them had in common. They all had incompetent detectives who didnt seem to know shit about investigating.
@Ms Julie ❣️ no, arrogant is the perfect word for when police say you have to wait 24 hours to report a missing person. Yes, I know that used to be what police did, but it wasn't even officially a rule its just what they did because chasing after kids was "a waste of time" and I think it was in 1983 or 84 when they made it a point that police NEED to investigate any missing child, even if it hasn't been 24 hours. But there are people who still today will wait because they "think" its some kind of rule, and its not now nor was it ever
They all seem lazy AF & utterly inept & disinterested, To me some deserve to have negligent homicide charges leveled against them as if they'd done their job the victims may've been found alive.
The Pocatello one, it bothers me that the police were so dismissive of the brother's claim of a kidnapping. Instead of going on the facts and testimony, they made assumptions and possibly lost time they could have used to potentially save a girl's life.
yeah they need to pay for their inaction! lawsuit and if i could rewrite the books i would create a new law so that they would have to serve time for their neglect of the case and dismissal of an eye witness account! Pisses me off and that case with jaidyn makes my blood boil. I just have an overwhelming since of intution that he did it. Wheres dexter when you need him?
They they should all be charged with negligent homicide due to their laziness & disinterest IMHO. If they had done their job they could have prevented her murder but they were lazy & inept to the point of dereliction of duty & thus warrant a negligent homicide charge.
How could you leave your child with a stranger? Somebody you never met and who didn't show up during your first scheduled meeting should tip you off that this person isn't responsible to take care of your child. :/
Nothing to do with a different time. She was obviously desperate and when you are desperate you do stupid things. It's a decision she's had to live with for the rest of her life.
Did u see the wine he was drinking after he was released? His son is dead what is there to celebrate? and no remorse,he lied, failed to inform the cops.. smh no sah
@@StaceyThompson I don'y think it could've been the dogs, because there probably would've been bight marks on his body and it was never mentioned. I do think that the boyfriend definitely had smt to do with it tho
For anyone who is watching this is 2024 and doesn’t know yet, baby Melissa was found! She is safe and alive and happily married in Texas and was reunited with her parents❤
My grandma actually lived in Lacrosse when Evelyn Hartley went missing, and my mom thinks one of my grandma's sisters was possibly in Evelyn's grade. I showed my mom this video, and she told me that there was a street that was getting refinished when Evelyn went missing. Several years later, they found a skeleton under the street that they did a reconstruction on and the sketch looked like Evelyn's mom. I don't know more than that. Just thought that the information might be appreciated.
I think the killer is closer to home than they are telling us. My guess is, the killer was on the force and they didn't want that info to get out......probably something to do with the reputation of the police force. I could be wrong though.
Markeisha Pope: That is entirely plausible. Either on the force or closely connected with someone who is. Not living in the U.S. I don't know what avenues anyone would have for moving this case on. I would have thought there would have been some kind of procedure to complain to state or federal officials and have them re-examine the evidence that hasn't yet been lost.
Gawd, some of these country cops are real halfwits. A 14-year-old girl goes missing and they just shrug and say, "Yeah, she ran away," and totally discount her brother's insistence that he heard her scream from elsewhere in the house.
Mona Irwin My thoughts exactly. I mean what sense does it make for him to be covering for her by saying she was kidnapped...that would (or rather SHOULD) make the police even more frantic in their search to find her. I hope they felt guilty and ashamed upon finding her clothes and remains.
Mona Irwin This is very true. I live in Kentucky and just the other day my in-laws house burned down. No one got hurt because they were visiting us at the time but the circumstances were odd. When my father in law returned (the rest stayed, he had to work) he drove up to a pile of ashes, their dog Bella laying under the debris on the sidewalk next to the porch. Bella was an outdoor dog, and very territorial and loyal. The police immediately said the fire had to have been an accident, and that Bella had died going into the house to save them, thinking they were there. No, while she was a loyal dog she was smart. They'd been gone for days and she had to have known. And she always stayed far away from family bonfires. And why would she be laying on the sidewalk? It's as if she was killed before the fire (note she's too badly burned to see the cause of death). The other two dogs are fine, they're pretty young and if a stranger came up the drive they'd probably lick them. But Bella would have freaked out. Also, how did none of the neighbors not see the smoke? The debris wasn't discovered until the post man came the next day and at the time no one had a number to reach them and tell them. I think, personally that someone knew that they were out of town and came to rob them. When they arrived Bella tried to attack them and they shot her. Then after ransacking the place and taking what they wanted, they set it on fire. But the police barely did any paperwork and wouldn't take any photos of the debris or Bella until my father in law insisted a few times. Does anyone have any thoughts? Am I being paranoid? Also, RIP Bella because either way you died trying to protect the ones you love 💔
Mona Irwin Police are lazy and don't like to investigate.Its easy to mark something as suicide or missing people as runaways.They don't even care to investigate burglaries until someone gets killed.
Amber Smith ..... Did your Uncle have home owners or renters insurance? If so, the cause of the fire is needed in order for the claim to be paid. The police are not responsible for investigating this, the fire department would be the department to investigate the origin of the fire. The fire department/arson investigator would take over the investigation. Arson investigators are part detective, part fire scientist. After fires are reported and suppressed, arson investigators help determine the cause of the blaze and, if appropriate, whether criminal activity is involved. I lost everything I physically owned to a home fire, including some of my animals, it is tragic. 😓 Thankfully, like your family, my family survived the ordeal. I hope the community is helping your family with donations. We wouldn't have been able to change our clothes without our community donations. Ask your Uncle to contact the fire department, and have the fire department review their report of findings. Good luck to your family. God bless.
yas 美しい死 They're usually about white people because all of these stories are from the USA, where there's more white people to both be murderers and murdered. If they were stories from India, you wouldn't be making stupid obvious statements like "they're all Indians." :/
Me: "It's getting late into the night. I'll watch something happy on YT after this...." **see's another Criminally Listed video in the 'Up Next' column** Me: "Meh. One more won't hurt."
I won't criticize anyone for what they do in any situation that I've never been in. That was a different time, so I won't blame the mother for having a babysitter whom she hadn't met. There's nothing wrong with having other children.
Seems like this happens a lot in those old timey crime stories. Back then having lots of babies was normal, and I reckon the trauma of losing a child would go two ways, either you can't bring yourself to have any more children, or you compensate by having many more.
11:38 I hope that police department was sued. How dare they!!! The boy ran and told a neighbor, if he was covering for a runaway why would he go to those extremes. 😔💔
DarkPhoenixSaga I had a teacher who was almost kidnapped, and it was mistaken identity. She lived in an apartment with her roommate. Her roommate always put out the bins on a Sunday night at around the same time, but had broken her leg and had it in a cast, so my teacher put out the bins that night. They were of a similar build. Guy tries to grab her. Luckily, my teacher knew basic self defense, was able to give him a wacking and recognised the man as her roommate's ex boyfriend. One restraining order and one new apartment later, and all is well. Let's just say the bins get put out during the day now.
It's scary to hear about so many unsolved cases and realize just how many people are out there living their lives, knowing they're getting away with murder. Scarier to know the un-caught could be anybody. No one knows where all these perpetrators ended up or if they're still hurting people.
Totally agree. Sketches are always terrifying for me (because they look soulless), but this one is hid-under-my-bed-with-everything-locked-and-the-phone-in-my-hand-prepared-to-call-911-awful.
i am a babysitter and there are a lot of family who trust me right away and leave me with the kids alone from day 1... but i totally get what you mean. i would do it different if i even have children. cause not everyone is nice
Kris Van Pelt Doesn’t the company run license plates and do a background check, I mean sure you could just start your psychopathic streak but if it was there before it’d pop up therefore preventing you from working for the company.
After watching Cayleigh Elise's nameless video about Hope Doe where an African American girl around the same age was found decapitated I can't help think that maybe the skull found could belong to her. It all happened around 1983 as well...
#3 seems odd to me or maybe its how the story is being told. The baby sitter and his accomplices had such a weak story. Kill the little boy, make it look like a kidnapping, okay - that's been done, but why not call the police? the boy is missing right? No, instead, what happened, happened and it just seems sloppy. The mother didn't seem to put up a fuss and even believed the guy. I would have assumed him right away.
Did you notice the "sketch" that said "Mr. Cruel Prime Suspect" at the top... It was just a drawing of a guy in a ski mask ffs. Super helpful I'm sure 😂😂😂 THAT could be why he's never been caught lmao just sayin'...
famous brillance ......i guess. But as a full time parent I generally only get to leave to go to work or the store. So yes a couple times a year I may go out and have fun and be an adult with a real name and identity that isn't just mommy. Don't be a dick and judge spend three months just at work and with family tell me if you don't want a night out
famous brillance - as a single mom we need breaks occasionally. All moms do. I'm lucky and my father watches her those rare occasions I choose to go out.
That makes a ton of sense in Pocatello. We have solved the murders, we think we know who did it and how it happened, but we are not charging anyone. WTH?
There is little chance that Ed Gein killed the first girl. She was way too young compared to his typical victims as well as the fact that he never had any trace of her afterward.
I don't believe it either. Gein was very open about who his victims were and he had no idea who Evelyn was. He was also an opportunist killer, meaning he wouldn't stake out a house for an opportunity.
Hello, lawyer here, sorry that you feel this way. If anything happens to you or a loved one please don’t call an attorney to help you or make sure your rights are being met.
K g oh so all lawyers are great moral individuals? Did u watch the video? I didn’t say all lawyers & if u can’t pay attention to details any better than that for damn sure I don’t want a lawyer like u. If u believe all lawyers are great you’re fucking brainwashed by your own biases
Problem with Ed Gein kidnapping Evelyn Hartley, it doesn't fit his M.O. Ed was obsessed with becoming a woman and his dead mother. Geins victims (2) resembled or reminded him of her in some regard, same with the graves he robbed. Ed was a psycho but I can't find much motive for him going through all that trouble. He was a very sloppy kidnapper, especially when it came to the two women he killed. When he kidnapped bar owner Mary Hogan in 1954, Gein openly joked that she was at his farm, but nobody believed him because he was harmless. But, he was from La Crosse originally and was in town visiting a cousin who happened to live a block or two over from where Evelyn disappeared. He could have done it, who knows. Sadly, much of the evidence wasn't fully recovered when the farmhouse burned down under mysterious circumstances so any evidence of her burned up.
@Jonathan Heyward Not exactly what happened. He was still in sheriff’s custody when it burned down. It was indeed arson but wasn’t investigated because the fire chief was Bernice Wardens son. By the time Geins trial started, the house was gone.
Hall About Family nah, not really - if there were to be a news channel dedicated to reading off current incoming reports then it would be going 24/7 nonstop, and we'd still not hear about half of the daily killings / disappearances. I will agree with ya that with technology and facial recognition as it is these days, it has helped lower the number of unsolved cases that we hear about, though.. just another one of those things about the 70's and 80's that I do love reading about!! It still baffles me how none of the bigger news outlets picked up on the 'three guys, one hammer' case - there's really not very much information out about the case, at all!
A million people go missing in the US alone, every single year. THAT'S 3,800/DAY!!!!! Out of the million, 200k are adults, 300k are abducted by non-custodial parents, leaving 500k kids accounted for. Five million go missing world wide!!!
Harley Quinn I have watched over atleast 50 videos on these topics, and read countless lists, and watched many programs. Thats why i find it so amazing that I haven't heard of many of these. Lemme just add im not insane or anything 😂 I just enjoy mysteries, even though il probably never solve one.
Hall About Family Thats not bad. Not only are they interesting, but it may spark new clues and jog memories for some people, and possibly even help solve a solid cold case. It also ensures he doesnt recycle content which has been used 100 other times.
This sounds so weird but I'm watching this video to calm down right now. The Narrators voice is so soothing and calming, who cares if he's talking about dead people, right?
I know that back then you didn't hear about it like we do today but I remember my mom telling me when I was a text that if she ever divorced my dad she wouldn't have a guy around us until we were grown bc of this type of thing. Back then I thought she was crazy, now I understand completely. So sad.
@@bettyjohnson4875 Yep, your kids come first, not a boyfriend/girlfriend, drinking, a night out...nothing. Time for all that once your kids are grown. Your time is no longer yours when you choose to have children.
Your mother was right to say so. I'm the exact same way with my daughter. If my mother or sister aren't watching her, it's me. I refuse to be that parent who finds out years later that something horrible was happening to my baby
You really should add in the phone number for tips on cases. Even if you just put them in the description box it really could help one day. I'm sure there's numbers everywhere while you are researching.
For the case with Melissa though it could be totally unrelated. I remember watching an episode of Unsolved Mysteries where children where being abducted by well dressed people, taken to an 'orphanage' and put up for adoption. There is a lot more to this but it's been so long since I seen the episode I just clicked when I heard about the part with the white gloves.
Does anyone else think it's really weird but interesting that the dad came through the same window into the house that his daughters killer did? Like that's an interesting kind of situation that you'd only see in movies
You said there was no sign of forced entry and the girl must have known the man but if he took the keys then he has a key to the house of course no sign of forced entry
What was up with the cops posting on facebook that they'd solved the case, but weren't going to do anything about it, KTHXBYE. And then refusing to answer any questions? Could they have been trying to draw the killer out by doing that?
I live in Oneida County. They think the same person that killed Sarah Ann Wood is the same person in those cases. From what I’ve been told my whole life the cases were handled very poorly and countless boxes of evidence and interviews have been lost. As for Facebook. OCS loves posting on Facebook because it makes them look like they’re doing something. Edit: I forgot to mention that the guy they arrested has only been charged with one murder of a young boy I believe. I’m not going to bother looking it up. But as far as I remember off the top of my head that’s the case.
Thank you for putting karmein in this. I'm from the same town and have always wondered about her case. I was quite young when this happened, but I remember her mother on the news when she went missing, absoloutely heart breaking. I still have hope they find the murderer.
Ariana Potorski Maybe not. Mr. Cruel's crimes had escalated with each crime, he showed the most interest in the young girls of the families he victimized, which eventually lead him to kidnap and then finally kidnap and murder. He definitely had a *thing* for girls of a certain age, and it's probable that the younger sisters of Karmein weren't in his preferred age range.
Yeah. Not many things move me, but I remember the mum begging for Karmein's return. Still don't like thinking about it. Karmein seemed like such a bright, happy and intelligent child. Most children aren't. Kidnap and kill them. Leave the ones like Karmein Chan alone.
Beth Clark that’s literally how people from the countryside talk, just how london people talk like “wagwan g what you sayin” it doesn’t mean she doesn’t know English
@@bethclark5700 lol Y'all is indicative of a southern accent which I possess. Also I screamed Thanks Yall! When I crossed that stage to receive my M.Ed. Your curtains are open huh Becky? See if You had learned something in school you would know advertising the inside of your home for crazy people to see is not wise.
Yeah. As soon as it gets about 5-6 pm, before the sun has even set, I close every blind & curtain in the house. I have seen so many crime shows that said the victim had been watched thru open windows. Oh heck no. The worst is when I’ve been gone all day and come home after dark & have to close them all quickly. I always have that creepy being watched feeling until every single one is shut. I don’t understand how u cd be comfortable in your house with windows open. Even out in the country on a 500 acre spread, I STILL wouldn’t be comfortable w open windows. U just never know what kinda creep cd be outside, seeing ur every move.
What I love about your channel/videos is how you pick cases that I've never heard of! You do an amazing job on these and I love everything about them, thank you so much for what you do.
Well, they aren't powdered but yes, in the higher courts they still wear wigs and robes in Australia. Each wig is individually made too, so they are all unique.
The Mother of number 3... it's a little too late to be acting like a good mother after years of backing up that pos up knowing he had to be the one who killed your son...what a sketchy story that was lol bless that little boy
Melissa Highsmith Kidnapper: Guy: "Hey man did you get that baby you always wanted?" Ruth:"...Ye...yeah, they just gave her to me." Guy:"They didn't question your stupid disguise?" Ruth:"No, they just gave her to me, I was gonna back out if anything happened or they questioned me but they just handed her over no questions asked at all.. ." Guy: "Well, be a better parent then them is all I can say." Ruth: "They didn't set the bar very high so I'm already winning at that."
i really love your videos dude, i have watched every single one of them and listen to them as i draw. sometimes i gotta stop and look around me because i get an unsettling feeling. keep it up!
Always love your videos. Three observations. 1. Isn't amazing how alcohol appears in SO MANY videos like this? 2. In the #1 clip, I noted he quit right after the killing. There are a couple of reasons why this might happen a. in prison or died. b. The killing was an attempt at escalation, that had very negative effect. c. Perhaps she injured him in some way? (I do not want to say this in a crude way but am at a loss as to how not do that. So I apologize in advance if this offends anyone.) If he were forcing her to perform oral sex on him. She may have bitten him badly. So he shot her but well let's just say his fishing rod is broken. Permanently! 3. A couple of things that come to mind when cops refuse to arrest a person they are "confident" of committing a crime. a. Rich and powerful b.The killer is one of their own!
I just want to say thank you to the creator(s) of this channel. This is one of my favorite youtube channels and I appreciate all the work put in and the amount of videos uploaded. :)
10:29 WTH is going on with that lawyers hair lol. And yes I am going to say it just like a lot of other people, who the hell lets a complete stranger take care of their child without ever having met them. oh lord.
God my name is Evelyn and it was extremely difficult to listen to the first story, especially because I am a straight A student that also baby sits occasionally
evelyn’s father was an absolute real one, called the house got no answer, drove straight there & started knocking on doors & looking in windows, & broke into the basement when he saw thing were amiss he is the “taken” dad,
much respect lmao
Made his daughter call at a certain time too.💜
To hear that story, then the next when that dumb mother handed her kid over to a sight unseen babysitter.
@@mrjonesandme8848 father too. He's also to blame.
Called the house got no answer, drove straight there & started knocking on doors & looking in the windows, & broke into the basement when he saw thing where amiss he is taken Dad
he’s the ultimate dad the fact she had an 8:30 check in was good parenting
who in the hell would just hand their kids over to some babysitter sight unseen?
CoyoteTa81 A very stupid ass person. The fact the person didn't bother to show up to the interview was a dead giveaway that person was shady.
Dominic And she was very young.
CoyoteTa81 I too thought the same thing. .even though it was a different time / things were different back then. you wouldn't get me to leave my child with someone I never met. just absolutely crazy.
and then for her to think it was a man dressed as a woman, but STILL handed over the baby...?
The roommate was the one who handed over the baby, not the mom.
the kid must feel so much guilt for not being able to stop the man from kidnapping his sister. Imagine witnessing that and then the cops think you made it up. Total nightmare.
Ikr. Smdfh. 😑🤬
Ur very pretty and I subscribed to you 😍
Really crappy and crazy they didn't even believe her
Chris D. Bro, she has no videos, and the only thing you could see is a little circle, cmon man
@@okaymiguel what?
Does anyone get creeped out thinking Melissa could be watching this and maybe not realizing the kidnapped baby was her? 😬
You mean she'd get creeped out?
I was thinking that too
lifeisgolden41 🤭😐 oh....I didn’t think of that until now....
SBJTV Why would SHE get creeped out if she didn't realise it was anything to do with her as the original comment said...??!🙄
@@HopelessSinner because the picture sort of looks like her?
The dad from the first story is a real one. He didn't even think twice before going into the house. I really hope he found peace..
Her parents died in 1986 (dad) and 2002 (mom) respectively. I know they both died knowing that their daughter was probably in heaven, but knew for sure that her killer would never be caught. No parent should have to live 38 years or 49 years not knowing where their child was it’s heartbreaking. God bless Richard and Ethel Hartley.
I would've beat that door open
And the 2nd 1,the mom is the opposite, she just give em her daughter
@@evanshiong3557definitely is in heaven.
@@evanshiong3557I agree. No parent should ever have to endure any of the agony that goes along with losing a child in such a horrific way. Especially never knowing truly what happened. Thanks for the info.
How do you hire a babysitter without meeting them???
Kjws Mother right!!
Back then ppl were part of the community. This person knows that person. Was a safer time.
Believe it or not people do it all the time, even these days. I was hired off Facebook, never met the mom or child before I was hired. The mother never asked for references , my id or checked me out. It actually scared me for the child's future
@@angelfolmar2732
Yea that is crazy
There's no way I would be ok w myself
I don't even let ppl I do kno watch my kids
Only my family once in a blue moon
Some ppl just don't care I guess...
Randy Rose it wasn’t safer.. people just weren’t aware of the bad out there because they didn’t have internet/cable etc.
kidnapping is one of the scariest concepts ever to me, it just makes me incredibly uncomfortable to be alone and to trust anyone.
Things like this have made me install home security but it will always make me worry for the females in my life especially given how theyre the most common victims
I remember years ago when Steven Steiner was abducted held for years by a man named Parnell when Parnell abducted another child Steven remembered that the same thing had happened to him he took the child and went to the police the child’s parents rewarded Steven with the reward money Steven returned home but struggled to fit in at home he did marry but was killed in a car accident sometime later a few years passed I woke to the news that Stacy Steiner brother of Steven had abducted and killed four girls in Yosemite National Park it was said later that he had been seeking attention like Steven had gotten from when he was abducted years earlier
Seems like the Pocatello police are great at NOT doing their job and losing evidence.
and daring to post on fb that they solved the murders..when they're far from solving them
That facebook post may have been a tactic to get catch the killer that failed terribly.. A somewhat common tactic in catching criminals without evidence is to announce that you know who it is and once this information becomes popularly talked about the criminal will fear getting caught and get sloppier or stop altogether. It is still a shady way to catch a criminal and brings false hope to victim's families.
There are four types of serial killers which would get sloppy or stop?? (1). The Visionary Motive Type, (2) The Missionary-Oriented Motive Type, (3). The Thrill-Oriented Motive Type, (4). The Lust Killer, Take your pick? None of these types will never get sloppy or stop.
I live in Preston which is 1 hour and 20 minutes away from Pocatello. Pocatello, (pronounced POKE-A-TELL-O) is the meth capital of Idaho. it's a college town, total party city, not a "Mormon" or "White Separatist" city. the cops there are just like any big city cops, lazy! unlike small town cops they act like they don't have to answer to anyone because they are so disconnected from the public. Now the cops in my town actually DO their jobs because if they don't, they have all 5,000 of us to answer to! small town cops are just better all the way around. just like people. I have lived in big cities and in small towns I lived in different states as well (military wife). People in small towns are just better because they actually care about their neighbors and their community.
DARKKISS thought the same thing
"They said that they did not plan on charging anyone with the murders "
Wow. That's a horrible statement to hear.
maybe the killer had a stroke and was in a nursing home... or dead... u can't convict someone in poor health or someone deceased and their family can sue for defemation of character.
@@kimmyfreak200 No they more than likely ruled it as a murder suicide knowing Law Enforcement.
can you imagine watching one of these videos and seeing your age progressed face as a missing person...
Sadly nope I look too much like my parents to have any doubts -.-
@@necessaryevil7777 Same.
Tajah Kristina That would be S0 freaky to see your own face .. 🙀
Or how about someone you know
Or someone else that you know or went to school with that would be creepy
these videos are the reason i get so paranoid and triple check everything i do and where im at
strawberryy princess that's actually wise thinking.
Yep. I watch a lot of this sort of thing these days, and find myself doing much the same things. I think on my end it stems from wondering wth I would do in some of these situations.
strawberryy princess SAME . My friend thinks I'm paranoid .. if being extremely aware of your surroundings and really observant at all times is paranoid to them , then yeah I guess lol
strawberryy princess Don't worry, no one wants to kidnap you.
strawberryy princess in this world we live in,you cant be careful enough...stay safe!!
Who are these cops that don't believe someone reporting a missing kid?!? That's ridiculous, in fact it's criminally negligent.
Umm especially when the little boy saw this man running out of the house with his sister!!! Those could have saved her but instead dicked around and let her die
Exactly!!
This occurs in Canada, especially in the Aboriginal community. Missing girls or murdered ones are often assumed to be run aways or died drowning etc.
@@kevinzhu6417 this happens in the states waaaay too often. yearly black, indigenous, and hispanic young girls and women go "missing" (see trafficked or murdered) cops just say "well maybe they chose to run away" because much of the time the girls come from impoverished neighborhoods. so they automatically believe these girls instead of being kidnapped. the cops here only care if youre from lower to upper middle class. many states are only now making laws where you dont get charges if you have drugs and call emergency for someone oding. this only happened because opiates, heroin and fetynal hit middle class neighborhoods. meanwhile in the working and lower classes many are still arrested on drug charges for calling 911 on ods . its unreal how the privilged get treated :/
The police officers involved should be dismissed immediately. I’m a pro-police kind of girl but this is absolute negligence. I’m stunned that this happened.
The Jaidyn case was just bizarre.
"He's at the hospital, he was burned, but I can't take u to him, go to sleep."
"Just kidding, I don't know where he is, but I didn't call the cops to report a kidnapping."
"Oh, look, my ex-girlfriend is hurling decapitated animal heads at my house, lol"
That was some bizarre stuff.
Veelasiren Pet pigs. The silent victims when relationships go bad but tasty for breakfast.
Exactly. The fact that he lied about where the kid was the night it happen is already really guilty. Plus the jacket and wallet were wet. The reason he didn't wont to call the police for the vandalism was because he didn't want police asking questions like what was he doing that day who was he with and before you know it there asking him what happen to the child he was taking care of? I'm guessing they would have found more damning evidence in his house or in his car if the mother wasn't such a total sack of shit for a parent. My guess is that he was already upset that his pet pig had gone missing and probably fights with his ex all while his taking care of this child who needs attention and is crying and he snapped and killed him. It seems to match since it was a very sloppy crime it wasn't planned. The way he lies to the mother the night of even backs that up since he's just rolling with the punches trying to buy time. The people who vandalized his home are connected in that they were probably the reason he snapped and killed the young boy not from the incident with the pig head but I'm sure they had other run ins earlier that day or the day before adding to his rage and stress. And the fact that someone so careless and so blatantly guilty could get away with a crime so horrible like this is unbelievable.
"they never considered the injuries all happened at once"
EXACTLY! If he was being violent enough to snap a bone, than he was obviously out of control and could have easily killed the kid at the same time.
Misty Nelson
I love how unconcerned the neighbors are after hearing someone screaming,wow!
"The Bystander Effect"
Tbh i hear dem all da time i look outside to see kids playing
I live in a neighborhood with a lot of kids... if I heard a scream I wouldn’t just call the cops???
I hear people screaming all the time but it's just kids or women playing around their friends as they're screaming and laughing.
Look up the "Kitty Genovese" case. It spurred the 911 system to be enacted in the USA.
I've watched a lot of these old mystery cases and found one thing most of them had in common. They all had incompetent detectives who didnt seem to know shit about investigating.
That is very true one example I can think of is the disappearance of the Mellbrooke twins
I completely agree! Lazy, incompetent and arrogant!
@Ms Julie ❣️ no, arrogant is the perfect word for when police say you have to wait 24 hours to report a missing person. Yes, I know that used to be what police did, but it wasn't even officially a rule its just what they did because chasing after kids was "a waste of time" and I think it was in 1983 or 84 when they made it a point that police NEED to investigate any missing child, even if it hasn't been 24 hours. But there are people who still today will wait because they "think" its some kind of rule, and its not now nor was it ever
Yet people worship cops. Time after time they’re shown to either abuse their power or be lazy and incompetent af.
They all seem lazy AF & utterly inept & disinterested, To me some deserve to have negligent homicide charges leveled against them as if they'd done their job the victims may've been found alive.
The Pocatello one, it bothers me that the police were so dismissive of the brother's claim of a kidnapping. Instead of going on the facts and testimony, they made assumptions and possibly lost time they could have used to potentially save a girl's life.
yeah they need to pay for their inaction! lawsuit and if i could rewrite the books i would create a new law so that they would have to serve time for their neglect of the case and dismissal of an eye witness account! Pisses me off and that case with jaidyn makes my blood boil. I just have an overwhelming since of intution that he did it. Wheres dexter when you need him?
Police here in Poky are still dismissive of everything, good luck trying to even get anything through to them even a kidnapping
Lazy ass corrupt cops
FallingGalaxy look into Johnny Gosch (?) police are in on kidnappings more than you’d think - along with politicians judges etc.
They they should all be charged with negligent homicide due to their laziness & disinterest IMHO. If they had done their job they could have prevented her murder but they were lazy & inept to the point of dereliction of duty & thus warrant a negligent homicide charge.
How could you leave your child with a stranger? Somebody you never met and who didn't show up during your first scheduled meeting should tip you off that this person isn't responsible to take care of your child. :/
Creepyverse different time, I guess
Nothing to do with a different time. She was obviously desperate and when you are desperate you do stupid things. It's a decision she's had to live with for the rest of her life.
Creepyverse she deserved to get her baby taken away for her stupidity
Forreal
Yup, so stupid
That poor child jaidyn was failed by the system, by his mother, by everyone, nothing is more enraging than seeing a guilty child killer walk free
:'( how do you go on partying and drinking when the babysitter doesn't answer after ringing 15 times? :(
Koen Leijten
Then she went partying with her boyfriend/ babysitter, not even wondering where your son is? That woman is unfit to be a mother.
How did his mother fail him
Tara Bonham she’s rather party than to check up on her son
Did u see the wine he was drinking after he was released? His son is dead what is there to celebrate? and no remorse,he lied, failed to inform the cops.. smh no sah
We all know Jayden was killed by the boyfriend, he's just gotten away with it!
Agreed
I think the dogs hurt him somehow; maybe killed him- and the dude disposed of his little body.
@@StaceyThompson I don'y think it could've been the dogs, because there probably would've been bight marks on his body and it was never mentioned. I do think that the boyfriend definitely had smt to do with it tho
sydney bryan makes sense 😞 her actions as a mom were questionable too tho!
For anyone who is watching this is 2024 and doesn’t know yet, baby Melissa was found! She is safe and alive and happily married in Texas and was reunited with her parents❤
My grandma actually lived in Lacrosse when Evelyn Hartley went missing, and my mom thinks one of my grandma's sisters was possibly in Evelyn's grade. I showed my mom this video, and she told me that there was a street that was getting refinished when Evelyn went missing. Several years later, they found a skeleton under the street that they did a reconstruction on and the sketch looked like Evelyn's mom. I don't know more than that. Just thought that the information might be appreciated.
m Terrible
Oh crap!
m Dam
I wonder if they did dna testing it would reveal anything
Wow!
WTF police? Girl gets abducted from her home. "Eh, her brother is making it up."
C s exactly.... Idiots all of them
Sometimes police make some disturbing mistakes a 3 years old child wouldn't.
C s right!!!
this case is still talked about in Idaho to this day too, my law class had a project on it
Čåšš Håřřîšøñ you're hella cute wtf
I am a truck driver when I Got a notification I pulled over the side of the road just to watch love the video and the channel keep up the good work!!
Kelvin Hutcherson wow that's dedication!
Chloe Rhodes yes it is. i love this Channel
subcomandante marcos lmao!!
anmullenax05 thanks anmullenax05
Kelvin Hutcherson be safe.
"Lost the letter." hmmm good job, investigators 💓
Did I miss something in the video? I can't remember a letter.
Main Man 12:25
Main Man Seems I missed it, too. In fact, I missed an entire segment of the video!
9 year old: My sister was kidnapped!
Police: Psh, liar.
How the hell can you "lose" evidence, say you know who the killer is, but you're not going to charge him? I am the only one who thinks this smells?
I think the killer is closer to home than they are telling us. My guess is, the killer was on the force and they didn't want that info to get out......probably something to do with the reputation of the police force. I could be wrong though.
Markeisha Pope: That is entirely plausible. Either on the force or closely connected with someone who is. Not living in the U.S. I don't know what avenues anyone would have for moving this case on. I would have thought there would have been some kind of procedure to complain to state or federal officials and have them re-examine the evidence that hasn't yet been lost.
It very well could be, however I’ve heard of so much evidence being lost in a number of cases especially before the 2000s.
they could have since died and don't want to ruin the reputation of the killer's family (innocent people who it would be unfair to hurt unnecessarily)
emie :D Exactly like the victim!
Gawd, some of these country cops are real halfwits. A 14-year-old girl goes missing and they just shrug and say, "Yeah, she ran away," and totally discount her brother's insistence that he heard her scream from elsewhere in the house.
Mona Irwin My thoughts exactly. I mean what sense does it make for him to be covering for her by saying she was kidnapped...that would (or rather SHOULD) make the police even more frantic in their search to find her. I hope they felt guilty and ashamed upon finding her clothes and remains.
Mona Irwin This is very true. I live in Kentucky and just the other day my in-laws house burned down. No one got hurt because they were visiting us at the time but the circumstances were odd. When my father in law returned (the rest stayed, he had to work) he drove up to a pile of ashes, their dog Bella laying under the debris on the sidewalk next to the porch. Bella was an outdoor dog, and very territorial and loyal. The police immediately said the fire had to have been an accident, and that Bella had died going into the house to save them, thinking they were there. No, while she was a loyal dog she was smart. They'd been gone for days and she had to have known. And she always stayed far away from family bonfires. And why would she be laying on the sidewalk? It's as if she was killed before the fire (note she's too badly burned to see the cause of death). The other two dogs are fine, they're pretty young and if a stranger came up the drive they'd probably lick them. But Bella would have freaked out. Also, how did none of the neighbors not see the smoke? The debris wasn't discovered until the post man came the next day and at the time no one had a number to reach them and tell them. I think, personally that someone knew that they were out of town and came to rob them. When they arrived Bella tried to attack them and they shot her. Then after ransacking the place and taking what they wanted, they set it on fire. But the police barely did any paperwork and wouldn't take any photos of the debris or Bella until my father in law insisted a few times. Does anyone have any thoughts? Am I being paranoid? Also, RIP Bella because either way you died trying to protect the ones you love 💔
Mona Irwin
Police are lazy and don't like to investigate.Its easy to mark something as suicide or missing people as runaways.They don't even care to investigate burglaries until someone gets killed.
Amber Smith ..... Did your Uncle have home owners or renters insurance? If so, the cause of the fire is needed in order for the claim to be paid. The police are not responsible for investigating this, the fire department would be the department to investigate the origin of the fire. The fire department/arson investigator would take over the investigation. Arson investigators are part detective, part fire scientist. After fires are reported and suppressed, arson investigators help determine the cause of the blaze and, if appropriate, whether criminal activity is involved. I lost everything I physically owned to a home fire, including some of my animals, it is tragic. 😓 Thankfully, like your family, my family survived the ordeal. I hope the community is helping your family with donations. We wouldn't have been able to change our clothes without our community donations. Ask your Uncle to contact the fire department, and have the fire department review their report of findings. Good luck to your family. God bless.
@@jxsilicon9 they also seem to be pretty good at putting innocent people in jail with fake evidence.
this channel is criminally underrated.
movieman175 This deserves to be top comment!😂🤘🏼
lol
You're kidding right?!!......racist but much
yas 美しい死 Your comment makes no sense.
yas 美しい死 They're usually about white people because all of these stories are from the USA, where there's more white people to both be murderers and murdered. If they were stories from India, you wouldn't be making stupid obvious statements like "they're all Indians." :/
Me: "It's getting late into the night. I'll watch something happy on YT after this...."
**see's another Criminally Listed video in the 'Up Next' column**
Me: "Meh. One more won't hurt."
The cops in Linda’s case should be sued or at the very least fired and never allowed to work in law enforcement again.
"... and the case is colder than a winter's night in Wisconsin". Sorry, but I laughed.
subcomandante marcos that was quite humorous
That's really the first pun I think for Criminally Listed, eh?
Andrew Grey I'm not sure if it's the first. I hope it's not the last ;)
yeah, that was a very cheesy line
It does get very cold here in Wisconsin though, but it made me laugh as well
That poor little boy, he's so adorable... such a crime makes me so angry
So if he was an ugly child it wouldn't matter, and or you wouldn't feel as bad
@@deathiscomingforusall3828 Don't put words in someone else's mouth. That is not what he said nor was that implied.
@@deathiscomingforusall3828 tf is wrong with you
So heartbreaking!
Watching this at 10pm while there's a storm going on outside lol, perfect timing!
Chloe Rhodes it's 5pm & raining where I am
Kamesha Roy I looooove the rain
Nasser R.M well then I hope you have one soon, haha
Where are you from? X
Nasser R.M blimey lol that's far
"Oh we just lost our child!"
"Wanna get back together and make three more kids?"
"Sure"
Katie Roberts seriously..I found that shit disgusting.
I won't criticize anyone for what they do in any situation that I've never been in. That was a different time, so I won't blame the mother for having a babysitter whom she hadn't met. There's nothing wrong with having other children.
Seems like this happens a lot in those old timey crime stories. Back then having lots of babies was normal, and I reckon the trauma of losing a child would go two ways, either you can't bring yourself to have any more children, or you compensate by having many more.
@@michelleprieur1 Ikr,women can be so desperate.
@@michelleprieur1 Yeah, you can't properly care for the one you have. So yeah, by all means have more!!! Frigging idiots.
11:38 I hope that police department was sued. How dare they!!! The boy ran and told a neighbor, if he was covering for a runaway why would he go to those extremes. 😔💔
Crazy how the regular babysitter was saved from the fate Evelyn experienced.
DarkPhoenixSaga I had a teacher who was almost kidnapped, and it was mistaken identity. She lived in an apartment with her roommate. Her roommate always put out the bins on a Sunday night at around the same time, but had broken her leg and had it in a cast, so my teacher put out the bins that night. They were of a similar build. Guy tries to grab her. Luckily, my teacher knew basic self defense, was able to give him a wacking and recognised the man as her roommate's ex boyfriend. One restraining order and one new apartment later, and all is well. Let's just say the bins get put out during the day now.
Petty White hahaha your conclusion though😂 bibs get put out in the day lol
DarkPhoenixSaga she might have been set up because it's weird it happened the night there regular sitter was busy there was a break in 😏😏
I know... I think the regular babysitter was the target.
DarkPhoenixSaga I don’t know if I heard this right but they should’ve question the first baby sitter if she had any haters??
It's scary to hear about so many unsolved cases and realize just how many people are out there living their lives, knowing they're getting away with murder. Scarier to know the un-caught could be anybody. No one knows where all these perpetrators ended up or if they're still hurting people.
Jungkook wish soap on his face
That picture of Mr cruel is terrifying!
Totally agree. Sketches are always terrifying for me (because they look soulless), but this one is hid-under-my-bed-with-everything-locked-and-the-phone-in-my-hand-prepared-to-call-911-awful.
How the hell do you hire a babysitter that you’ve never met🤦🏾♀️
Makes you wonder how anyone on Care.com gets hired.
i am a babysitter and there are a lot of family who trust me right away and leave me with the kids alone from day 1... but i totally get what you mean. i would do it different if i even have children. cause not everyone is nice
Kris Van Pelt Doesn’t the company run license plates and do a background check, I mean sure you could just start your psychopathic streak but if it was there before it’d pop up therefore preventing you from working for the company.
It's never comforting to learn that someone by the name of Mr. Cruel may still be alive in and wandering about your country....
Agreed! Its unnerving. Ain't nobody got time that!
Just think about all of the ones that don't have names wandering around.
After watching Cayleigh Elise's nameless video about Hope Doe where an African American girl around the same age was found decapitated I can't help think that maybe the skull found could belong to her. It all happened around 1983 as well...
Renée Puff crazy but good point. I watched that the other night as well.
I thought the same thing myself lol
Renée Puff i thought so too !!! i was hoping someone would mention it. we should mention it to her , hopefully it'll get solved ..
That was my first thought as well. Does anyone know if they have ever tried to match the dna?
Had the same exact thought.
I love how this channel just states facts without interjecting their own wacky, unfounded theories. The best True Crime channel on UA-cam, bar none.
Joe Orton word up!
#3 seems odd to me or maybe its how the story is being told. The baby sitter and his accomplices had such a weak story. Kill the little boy, make it look like a kidnapping, okay - that's been done, but why not call the police? the boy is missing right? No, instead, what happened, happened and it just seems sloppy. The mother didn't seem to put up a fuss and even believed the guy. I would have assumed him right away.
Icyclear it's crazy, I can't believe he was acquitted
If someone did that to my pet, you'd find me featured in one of these videos
me too
How demented to you have to be???
Absolutely! That poor pig 😢
I'm never leaving my kid with anyone EVER
Ur pretty 😍 I subscribed to you
Chris D. You’re a creep
Mr. Cruel has to be the cheeziest nickname ever given to a serial killer, lol. Joking aside, its unfortunate that the police never caught him.
Did you notice the "sketch" that said "Mr. Cruel Prime Suspect" at the top... It was just a drawing of a guy in a ski mask ffs. Super helpful I'm sure 😂😂😂 THAT could be why he's never been caught lmao just sayin'...
Lol, good point.
The first case wasn't Ed Gein, I don't think. Breaking in and kidnapping wasn't his MO.
Missy Cabic nor does she the age range.
The police cleared him as a suspect
It was not him
True, he was a psychopath in thed area. Pools of blood were his MO, well murder was his MO so its very likely
And she was a child. Not full grown woman.
Going out and drinking over spending time with the kids just doesn't seem worth it.
famous brillance ......i guess. But as a full time parent I generally only get to leave to go to work or the store. So yes a couple times a year I may go out and have fun and be an adult with a real name and identity that isn't just mommy. Don't be a dick and judge spend three months just at work and with family tell me if you don't want a night out
famous brillance - as a single mom we need breaks occasionally. All moms do. I'm lucky and my father watches her those rare occasions I choose to go out.
famous brillance, where do you think the saying “hindsight’s 20/20” comes from?! And it’s ‘brilliance’...
Well said, when my son was young the only people he used to stay with when I went out was my mum & dad that's it no one else
Rebecca Byam ever? That's realistic.
That makes a ton of sense in Pocatello. We have solved the murders, we think we know who did it and how it happened, but we are not charging anyone. WTH?
Dumb asf🤦🏾♂️ I swear
"And the case is colder than a winter's night in Wisconsin" That part had me cackling like a wicked little witch 😂
I had to look to see where Wisconsin was, I was so intrigued!
I feel bad for these families who lost their children
"Colder than a winters night in Wisconsin"
*Anxiously laughs
You and me both XD
There is little chance that Ed Gein killed the first girl. She was way too young compared to his typical victims as well as the fact that he never had any trace of her afterward.
I agree. doesn't seem to fit his m.o.
I don't believe it either. Gein was very open about who his victims were and he had no idea who Evelyn was. He was also an opportunist killer, meaning he wouldn't stake out a house for an opportunity.
Ya Ed just used the skin and skulls...most he killed were in pieces and parts in his house...
I agree doesn’t fit at all with him
Not true they say he killed his brother and never admitted to it
Mr Cruel was definitely law enforcement
If Hell exists you can guarantee that plenty of lawyers will have a front row seat.
They’re just doing their job. I’m sorry that you despise civil rights and fair trials so much.
Hello, lawyer here, sorry that you feel this way. If anything happens to you or a loved one please don’t call an attorney to help you or make sure your rights are being met.
K g oh so all lawyers are great moral individuals? Did u watch the video? I didn’t say all lawyers & if u can’t pay attention to details any better than that for damn sure I don’t want a lawyer like u. If u believe all lawyers are great you’re fucking brainwashed by your own biases
Problem with Ed Gein kidnapping Evelyn Hartley, it doesn't fit his M.O.
Ed was obsessed with becoming a woman and his dead mother. Geins victims (2) resembled or reminded him of her in some regard, same with the graves he robbed. Ed was a psycho but I can't find much motive for him going through all that trouble. He was a very sloppy kidnapper, especially when it came to the two women he killed.
When he kidnapped bar owner Mary Hogan in 1954, Gein openly joked that she was at his farm, but nobody believed him because he was harmless.
But, he was from La Crosse originally and was in town visiting a cousin who happened to live a block or two over from where Evelyn disappeared. He could have done it, who knows. Sadly, much of the evidence wasn't fully recovered when the farmhouse burned down under mysterious circumstances so any evidence of her burned up.
@Jonathan Heyward Not exactly what happened. He was still in sheriff’s custody when it burned down. It was indeed arson but wasn’t investigated because the fire chief was Bernice Wardens son. By the time Geins trial started, the house was gone.
Never clicked a notification faster! Adore your channel! Good content, and I've never heard of hardly of any of the cases you've used!
Harley Quinn or because half of the stories happened in the frickin 80s
Hall About Family nah, not really - if there were to be a news channel dedicated to reading off current incoming reports then it would be going 24/7 nonstop, and we'd still not hear about half of the daily killings / disappearances. I will agree with ya that with technology and facial recognition as it is these days, it has helped lower the number of unsolved cases that we hear about, though.. just another one of those things about the 70's and 80's that I do love reading about!!
It still baffles me how none of the bigger news outlets picked up on the 'three guys, one hammer' case - there's really not very much information out about the case, at all!
A million people go missing in the US alone, every single year. THAT'S 3,800/DAY!!!!! Out of the million, 200k are adults, 300k are abducted by non-custodial parents, leaving 500k kids accounted for. Five million go missing world wide!!!
Harley Quinn I have watched over atleast 50 videos on these topics, and read countless lists, and watched many programs. Thats why i find it so amazing that I haven't heard of many of these. Lemme just add im not insane or anything 😂 I just enjoy mysteries, even though il probably never solve one.
Hall About Family Thats not bad. Not only are they interesting, but it may spark new clues and jog memories for some people, and possibly even help solve a solid cold case. It also ensures he doesnt recycle content which has been used 100 other times.
This sounds so weird but I'm watching this video to calm down right now. The Narrators voice is so soothing and calming, who cares if he's talking about dead people, right?
Well a lot of us care, even if you don't.
agreed! (and don't worry, I picked up on the sarcasm/joke)
His voice puts me to sleep lol
I noticed that too.
I don't think it's horrid at all. His accent sounds like a cross between a California Dude and a Canadian.
Number 2 is SKETCHYYYY
Cops and Authority: **refuse to cooperate**
Me: “It’s an inside job. A cop did it.”
I know that back then you didn't hear about it like we do today but I remember my mom telling me when I was a text that if she ever divorced my dad she wouldn't have a guy around us until we were grown bc of this type of thing. Back then I thought she was crazy, now I understand completely.
So sad.
Your Mom was so right! There are men who prey on women with kids. It's so scary out there.
You're mother is a very, very intelligent woman! Bravo to her!
@@bettyjohnson4875 Yep, your kids come first, not a boyfriend/girlfriend, drinking, a night out...nothing. Time for all that once your kids are grown. Your time is no longer yours when you choose to have children.
Your mother was right to say so. I'm the exact same way with my daughter. If my mother or sister aren't watching her, it's me. I refuse to be that parent who finds out years later that something horrible was happening to my baby
your mom is a queen
You really should add in the phone number for tips on cases. Even if you just put them in the description box it really could help one day. I'm sure there's numbers everywhere while you are researching.
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OK I killed them my number is 555438879 shit how do I delete this, fuck IT they don't have my name 😎👈GOD
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Dáithí Ó Nuallaín um wut
FBI, we got him.
For the case with Melissa though it could be totally unrelated. I remember watching an episode of Unsolved Mysteries where children where being abducted by well dressed people, taken to an 'orphanage' and put up for adoption. There is a lot more to this but it's been so long since I seen the episode I just clicked when I heard about the part with the white gloves.
Jodeye Wrestler Ric Flair believes that he was a victim of that ring.
Jodeye I think I remember seeing that episode as well
Dang, I gotta watch that show now!
The friend even thought it was a man dressed as a woman. So many why’s !!!!
I remember that episode, too.
Just got home from work, right as im twisting up this spliff perfect timing!
Shin James ayy im with ya on that
Shin James Best way to hear them.
Just about to chew some shrooms myself
Man i would be paranoid hittin a double ender and watchin this stuff.ha ha
Yes!!
The whole Pocatello police department should’ve been fired! Too much negligence
"the case is colder than a Winter night in Wisconsin", where the crime took place... is some beautiful writing, brother.
These videos are even better if you close your eyes and imagine that it's Tina Belcher narrating them.
Austin J. Hall that actually does make them 10x better
Ohmygod
Check Forensic Files. You can thank me later 😉
Okay usually I jump to this guys defense about his voice but this is TOOO funny!😂
You're right!
Does anyone else think it's really weird but interesting that the dad came through the same window into the house that his daughters killer did? Like that's an interesting kind of situation that you'd only see in movies
Check out Jonbenet Ramsey case the situation is there as well
Well if it's the only way in, and the dad was frantic, he would go in any which way he could.
Did he kill her, perhaps?
I hate watching unsolved cases: Me: *clicks the video anyway*
today I learned to never go to Pocatello.
You said there was no sign of forced entry and the girl must have known the man but if he took the keys then he has a key to the house of course no sign of forced entry
What was up with the cops posting on facebook that they'd solved the case, but weren't going to do anything about it, KTHXBYE. And then refusing to answer any questions? Could they have been trying to draw the killer out by doing that?
I live in Oneida County. They think the same person that killed Sarah Ann Wood is the same person in those cases. From what I’ve been told my whole life the cases were handled very poorly and countless boxes of evidence and interviews have been lost.
As for Facebook. OCS loves posting on Facebook because it makes them look like they’re doing something.
Edit: I forgot to mention that the guy they arrested has only been charged with one murder of a young boy I believe. I’m not going to bother looking it up. But as far as I remember off the top of my head that’s the case.
irishbreakfast lmao calm down
Thank you for putting karmein in this.
I'm from the same town and have always wondered about her case. I was quite young when this happened, but I remember her mother on the news when she went missing, absoloutely heart breaking. I still have hope they find the murderer.
Ariana Potorski Maybe not. Mr. Cruel's crimes had escalated with each crime, he showed the most interest in the young girls of the families he victimized, which eventually lead him to kidnap and then finally kidnap and murder. He definitely had a *thing* for girls of a certain age, and it's probable that the younger sisters of Karmein weren't in his preferred age range.
Plus, since Karmein was found a year later, he could have kept her for quite a while for his use... shudder
Yeah. Not many things move me, but I remember the mum begging for Karmein's return. Still don't like thinking about it. Karmein seemed like such a bright, happy and intelligent child. Most children aren't. Kidnap and kill them. Leave the ones like Karmein Chan alone.
Wow. That girl Melissa. Her poor mother must have so much guilt? Poor her.
I suspect she was sold to a black market adoption ring. Back then many little ones were stolen to be sold. A 1 year old would be perfect.
Close y'all curtains!
Close you're all curtains? How about you go back to school to learn some proper English.
Beth Clark that’s literally how people from the countryside talk, just how london people talk like “wagwan g what you sayin” it doesn’t mean she doesn’t know English
@@bethclark5700 lol Y'all is indicative of a southern accent which I possess. Also I screamed Thanks Yall! When I crossed that stage to receive my M.Ed. Your curtains are open huh Becky? See if You had learned something in school you would know advertising the inside of your home for crazy people to see is not wise.
True! Idk how people have big ass windows but don’t cover them?? Some creep can see every move they make
Yeah. As soon as it gets about 5-6 pm, before the sun has even set, I close every blind & curtain in the house. I have seen so many crime shows that said the victim had been watched thru open windows. Oh heck no. The worst is when I’ve been gone all day and come home after dark & have to close them all quickly. I always have that creepy being watched feeling until every single one is shut. I don’t understand how u cd be comfortable in your house with windows open. Even out in the country on a 500 acre spread, I STILL wouldn’t be comfortable w open windows. U just never know what kinda creep cd be outside, seeing ur every move.
The music always gets me paranoid
I'm obsessed with this channel! 😍
STOP SHOWING PICTURES OF MR. CRUEL. it's very disturbing and I'm going to have nightmares
What I love about your channel/videos is how you pick cases that I've never heard of! You do an amazing job on these and I love everything about them, thank you so much for what you do.
Mr Cruel was active in my city when I was a child.
It's me or Patricia Campbell looks like a prime Brittney Spears?
I thought the exact same thing.
Holy shit. Donald Sevege's lawyer (at 10:27) has the worst toupee I've ever seen. That's a toupee right?
CHRIS DMOWSKI in British style court they still wear powdered wigs. Not even kidding. Look at law and order U.K.
Well, they aren't powdered but yes, in the higher courts they still wear wigs and robes in Australia. Each wig is individually made too, so they are all unique.
Was thinking the exact same thing lol
CHRIS DMOWSKI Donald Sevege? The whole time I was hearing domasavage😭
OKT 11 same that's how I heard it
Sad about the little boy jus sad
The Mother of number 3... it's a little too late to be acting like a good mother after years of backing up that pos up knowing he had to be the one who killed your son...what a sketchy story that was lol bless that little boy
I love how he says " this case is colder than a winter night in Wisconsin" bc it gets so fucking cold 😥😥😥
I hope the drinking and whatever else you were doing was worth it "mom"
I stayed up all night for you guys. How could you.
Andy lol SAME HERE
Andy lol lmao unfortunately people don't live on your schedule. Sucks doesn't it? 😩😂😂
Andy lol 😂 😂😂 😂😂 😂😂 😂 😂
*criminally listed uploads a 22 minute long video*
Me: *grabs popcorn*
OnlyAbbykid stfu loser
Would have loved if you'd included Kelly Cook case from Alberta in the early 1980s. That one always freaked me out, as it was close to where I lived
Lost Control can you refer to a video or something about her? I didnt find anything
As a person who lives in Pocatello Idaho it just makes me laugh at how he pronounces " pokeyello " 😂
Melissa Highsmith Kidnapper:
Guy: "Hey man did you get that baby you always wanted?"
Ruth:"...Ye...yeah, they just gave her to me."
Guy:"They didn't question your stupid disguise?"
Ruth:"No, they just gave her to me, I was gonna back out if anything happened or they questioned me but they just handed her over no questions asked at all.. ."
Guy: "Well, be a better parent then them is all I can say."
Ruth: "They didn't set the bar very high so I'm already winning at that."
I never miss these. This channel is awesome. Please keep these coming!
BlkPnk RckStar same
i really love your videos dude, i have watched every single one of them and listen to them as i draw. sometimes i gotta stop and look around me because i get an unsettling feeling. keep it up!
Always love your videos.
Three observations.
1. Isn't amazing how alcohol appears in SO MANY videos like this?
2. In the #1 clip, I noted he quit right after the killing. There are a couple of reasons why this might happen
a. in prison or died.
b. The killing was an attempt at escalation, that had very negative effect.
c. Perhaps she injured him in some way? (I do not want to say this in a crude way but am at a loss as to how not do that. So I apologize in advance if this offends anyone.) If he were forcing her to perform oral sex on him. She may have bitten him badly. So he shot her but well let's just say his fishing rod is broken. Permanently!
3. A couple of things that come to mind when cops refuse to arrest a person they are "confident" of committing a crime.
a. Rich and powerful
b.The killer is one of their own!
I just want to say thank you to the creator(s) of this channel. This is one of my favorite youtube channels and I appreciate all the work put in and the amount of videos uploaded. :)
Stories like this is are the reason why I always keep my doors locked at night..
I stayed up til 5 in the morn last night! don't judge me! 😂😂😂😂
You beat me by three minutes...4:57am haha
I don't blame you nishia boo this stuff is hella addictive and fascinating. 😱😱😱
millercork: I stay up anyway, but I was still waiting for it to pop up 😂
King of Thailand: I said don't judge me 😕😂
Nishia Boo 👏🏼perfect reply 😂
Great, got a go walk the dog in the dark ... why did I watch this now and not after lol... that Mr cruel composite sketch was just hella scary!
Lola Belle agree scary but horrible name
I've never been more aware of the word "house" than when watching these vids.
angelleftwing Or do you mean "hoose"
10:29 WTH is going on with that lawyers hair lol.
And yes I am going to say it just like a lot of other people, who the hell lets a complete stranger take care of their child without ever having met them. oh lord.
God my name is Evelyn and it was extremely difficult to listen to the first story, especially because I am a straight A student that also baby sits occasionally