Yup. Humans are doggedly stupid. No other way to analyse classic sports. Football stadiums were made of flammable wood, with smoking allowed. F1 had zero speed limits in pit lanes back in the day too, until a pit crew member got split in half by a car driving nearly 300 km/h in a narrow lane, inches from the pit crews. I admit I was very late to start using helmets on bicycle. It can only be explained with stupidity. :)
@@danfuerthgillis4483there didn’t used to be actually. When the rule came in, riders could take them off on a climb finish stage. Not sure when that changed.
This climb is objectively the most mutant level climb ever done. Some do the mistake and take contadors climb up verbier at a higher level. But its like comparing apples to bananas contadors watts per kilo wereabout the same and was only for 20 minutes. Heutacam is a 35+ minute climb and verbier is a short 20 minute climb not even out of category(HC) but only category 1. its a difference of keeping the pace for 15 minutes longer. Riis did aproximate between 6,8-6,9 watts per kilo in 35 minutes. about 10% faster than any climber today. It is higher than pantanis climb up the alpeduez - which is by the way the second most mutant level climbing in history for 30 minutes + climbing. Then comes ivan basso and lance ascend in 2004. but that was a little shorter than the other 2 climbs.
was wondering if doping works better on some cyclists than others? In other words...if two rider are equal and they both dope equally..will the dope work better on one rider than another? just wondering
@@joeenglert for sure there can be differences no doubt u enter another factor into the equation and there will be variation. Though it will by no doubt improve performances of everyone.
Riis at Hautacam in 96 Ullrich at Andorra Arcalis in 97 The Team Telekom boys produced the most mutant climbing performances in tour history. Mr 60% and Der Kaiser were the last "wow" moments in cycling before the magic tricks were revealed. The tour never will again see performances that aren't questioned due to the Festina affair. 90s tour de France was unmissable television due to the chemically enhanced performances that lit up our tv screens
Lol "magic tricks"; Ullrich was the most gifted rider ever and the Telekom doping was nothing compared to the mafia known as Lance Armstrong and US Postal later. That's what the FBI investigations clearly showed.
@@pnkdrmz I still think Riis watts per kilo at Hautacam bests Pogi at PDB although with the technological advances it's hard to compare but I think modern bikes now are estimated to give a 10-15% advantage
I was in Sigonella Sicily watching this race with a coffee shop full of Italians who were routing against the Great Spaniard. I really was a fan of Indurain but if had I spoken up for Big Meg in that Sicilian coffee shop, I would not be here to write this. San Francisco2024
Thats intresting since he was pretty popular in Italy. Having raced the Giro three times whilst winning two. On the other hand he had won against many italian heroes along the way such as Chiappucci, Bugno and a young Pantani so it goes both ways.
You know that 1996 they didn’t have the 50% haematocrit rule yet - which is why Mr. 60% ruled the peloton by being one of the most reckless. One year later one could see what happens if you put a threshold on the riders - there was one clearly superior driver who ruled the tour. And who would’ve won ‘98, too (if there wasn’t this episode with the “bonk”, whatever it really was…) 😢
tbh ullrich could have easily won 1996 tour too. Career wise perhaps every race he raced in if he didnt enjoy alcohol, drugs and women more than cycling
è una cosa speciale, è il top assoluto, un passista scalatore, un omone che si alza sui pedali e da solo distrugge Indurain, il dittatore del Tour, il nemico assoluto, è una cosa fantastica. non c'entra un cazzo il doping ( erano tutti preparati alla stessa maniera, italiani inclusi, facevano autotrasfusioni per aumentare l'ematocrito già da metà anni 80, nel ciclismo come nell'atletica o altrove ). quindi silenzio davanti a questa prestazione leggendaria. a 3:27 io mi commuovo. è troppo bello da vedere.
Voglio sperare tu sia ironico nella conclusione tra il poetico ed il mistico, perchè il resto è tutto drammaticamente vero. Aggiungerei tra le altre cose che è stata proprio la farmacia italiana, quella dei Conconi, Grazzi, Casoni, Cecchini, Ferrari a creare prima l'emo-doping e poi l'epo doping, diffondendolo a macchia d'olio in tutto il peloton. Nella connivenza delle istituzioni (si pensi a Romano Prodi che ancora oggi presenzia ad incontri e convegni con Conconi) e delle federazioni, nonchè nell'ipocrisia di chi tra ex, commentatori, opinionisti tutto sapeva e tutto celava, per poi punire il capro espiatorio di turno e far finta sia avvenuta una ripulita.
Riis is why they decided to crack down and regulate drugs more, he's a nobody who's system took exceptionally well to it. The UCI is cool with a lil dope if the rider is star or insane youth talent but Riis was an old water carrier and believability was at stake.
The commentator states "A man not renowned for his climbing has left the climbers behind". Looking back at it now with everything we know it is really quite comical. That said it made for great storylines and made the sport a spectacle.
03:29 Riis lays down the hammer and goes full gas! 😤 In the background, behind Paul and Phil, you can hear the spectators and commentators freaking out! I can’t be the only one who misses when the tour was like this 😕
Not to the same degree as Riis. He was on the absolute brink of death - if you read Jef D’Honts's book Riis was extremely mean towards other people and abused EPO to such a ridiculous degree that he had to get daily blood thinning injections because his hands stopped working and his heart couldn't pump his blood - meanwhile Jan Ulrich and others showed sportsmanship and loved their family too much to go 64% hematocrit. Point is there is degrees in this, and Riis was the biggest junkie of them all (excluding others like Armstrong later on, bit more sophisticated junkie though).
@@EscapeKey well I live in a democracy. Rule of law. Can you PROVE everyone did it? No, you can’t. Innocent until proven guilty. End of conversation for me. 🍻
@@freecatalonianow is that a joke? there have been so many admissions, so many articles, so many issues raised, so many actions taken... - like the entire of festina being raided in 1998, for instance. and how about michele ferrari and eufemiano fuentes? their client lists were miles long.
At 13:39 the commentator says the group of climbers couldnt match the power of Bjarn Riis and Riis in not renouned as a.climber! Now if there ever where a red flag 🤦♂️
Only problem is that Riis (as most would know) had in fact done very great in mountains for a couple of years by then, and that btw those 3 climbers (who were not better climbers, but simply less allround) were also doped each one of them. The sudden strenght of an up till then unknown laurent dufaux along with pascal herve from festina was way more smelly.
Indurain was on EPO already for years. Riis started in 1993 with this and took it to another level in 1995. This was seriously a level Indurain didn’t want to go to and was forced to retire.
I’ve always suspected why Indurain quit so suddenly. Before this tour he was dominant as ever and even won the Olympic TT before the disastrous autumn which was excused as a breakdown with his Banesto team. We shouldnt forget his physio Sabino Padilla walked out the year before and that a guy named Brisson had a suggestion for a EPO test in February 1996 (they didnt have any prior to this Tour) and that they started to take intrests in this. In hindsight it was a clever move by Mig since it all crashed down on everyone just a few years later. None of the riders in the clip isnt either a convicted doper or having a disgraced name - except Indurain who we know doped but just got out in time for not having his name draught in the mud. Riis, in particular, is here so doped that he even violated the hematocritlevels set by DDR-doctors Schmid and Lothar by over 10%. It was insane what they had to do to topple Big Mig.
@@danx8482: Obviously, at the time, many things that is now forbidden would be considered legal because as i said they didnt had a proper metric to detect EPO or blood doping. So in this regard sure Indurain would be considered ”clean” because he was always transparent with the authorities and never failed a test right? But that is also my point that he got out in due time before it broke. Guys like Riis didnt confess until 2007 but all of his Telekom domestiques at the time like Ullrich, Zabel, Bölts was caught or confessed.
@@jozuavanlangenhove6586 'Being drugged you can still have a bad day'. Sure, great argument... HE WAS ON DRUGS. He should not be part of Le Tour de France history...
@@jozuavanlangenhove6586 All that have admitted that were drugged, or found guilty of, should be nanned from history books… Lance Armstrong, Bjarne Riis, Ben Johnson, Jan Ulrich, André Agassi… I’m sure we can agree on that… Others, as a believer of rule of law, innocent until proven guilty.
I was thinking about this era the other day. To be frank it’s unlikely that any of the top riders were clean, but what set these guys apart from the whole Lance debacle is that they weren’t jerks. Lance chasing and catching Simone then lecturing him while racing (presumably about Ferrari) showed us all what an ass he was. The rest is history. I doubt Riis would have been exposed if it weren’t for the Lance situation and the witch hunt aftermath. But I gather that we can all agree that, doping or not, the Indurain era produced done exciting racing, Cheers
@@tomdavis3038 Amstrong was not just a jerk. He has been described by the FBI as a narcisist psychopath. He entertained a criminal organisation, committed crimes, and went after people.
What would actually happen to a decent amateur cyclist if they started serious training in the Alps and Pyrenees and started HGH, testosterone and EPO??
More juice than the cold aisle in a supermarket. By the way guys all this ranting about Hematocrit…? I am 63 and a pretty ordinary cyclist despite naturally having between 50 and 56% hematocrit. So it’s not the full story 😅
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My hermatacrit has gone to 60 watching this
😂
😂
You mean hematocrit.
@@ohnezuckerohnefett yes I did👍
Depends where you live. In Brazil we call it hematócrito 😅
Those guys are glowing radioactive. Haha.
Monsieur 64%, not 60%. Riis needed to be woken up multiple times a night to avoid a heart attack 🤨
Love the days when they rode without helmets. Now that’s real classical racing.
Yup. Humans are doggedly stupid. No other way to analyse classic sports. Football stadiums were made of flammable wood, with smoking allowed. F1 had zero speed limits in pit lanes back in the day too, until a pit crew member got split in half by a car driving nearly 300 km/h in a narrow lane, inches from the pit crews. I admit I was very late to start using helmets on bicycle. It can only be explained with stupidity. :)
I also hate the helmets
There should be no need for helmets when the stage ends on top of the climb. It’s not like they are going 80km hr up hill 😂
@@danfuerthgillis4483
Poggi is getting close thanks to his 165 mm cranks and carb strategy 😅
@@danfuerthgillis4483there didn’t used to be actually. When the rule came in, riders could take them off on a climb finish stage. Not sure when that changed.
Most famous climb up in the history
Today we are back at Hautacam. Go Jonas Wingegaard!!! 🇩🇰
Riis did it in 34:41 with around 480 watts average vingagaard 2 min slower but clean 🤔
Durty victory.
Not to remember
Not to celebrate
You are not wining again. Now is first time. Congratulations
Vingegaard…
Great entertainment!
Shame
This climb is objectively the most mutant level climb ever done. Some do the mistake and take contadors climb up verbier at a higher level. But its like comparing apples to bananas contadors watts per kilo wereabout the same and was only for 20 minutes. Heutacam is a 35+ minute climb and verbier is a short 20 minute climb not even out of category(HC) but only category 1. its a difference of keeping the pace for 15 minutes longer. Riis did aproximate between 6,8-6,9 watts per kilo in 35 minutes. about 10% faster than any climber today. It is higher than pantanis climb up the alpeduez - which is by the way the second most mutant level climbing in history for 30 minutes + climbing. Then comes ivan basso and lance ascend in 2004. but that was a little shorter than the other 2 climbs.
Y la Plagne 1995? Seguro Indurain andaba rondando el 55% de hematocrito, seguro que si.
was wondering if doping works better on some cyclists than others? In other words...if two rider are equal and they both dope equally..will the dope work better on one rider than another? just wondering
@@joeenglert for sure there can be differences no doubt u enter another factor into the equation and there will be variation.
Though it will by no doubt improve performances of everyone.
Ooops ! Poggi the Slovenian alien just did 40 mins at 7w/kg totally clean 😅😅😅😅😅 It’s his 165 mm cranks you see.
@@marcdaniels9079 Just wanted to say the same, welcome to Pogacars 2024 humiliation - of course its the better nutrition and the cranks
Riis at Hautacam in 96
Ullrich at Andorra Arcalis in 97
The Team Telekom boys produced the most mutant climbing performances in tour history. Mr 60% and Der Kaiser were the last "wow" moments in cycling before the magic tricks were revealed. The tour never will again see performances that aren't questioned due to the Festina affair. 90s tour de France was unmissable television due to the chemically enhanced performances that lit up our tv screens
Lol "magic tricks"; Ullrich was the most gifted rider ever and the Telekom doping was nothing compared to the mafia known as Lance Armstrong and US Postal later.
That's what the FBI investigations clearly showed.
Indurain la Plagne 1995: 60%
@@bobbwc7011plus motor doping
tadej pogacar just beat this climbing performance by riis for greatest of all time lol
@@pnkdrmz I still think Riis watts per kilo at Hautacam bests Pogi at PDB although with the technological advances it's hard to compare but I think modern bikes now are estimated to give a 10-15% advantage
What a dope ride
Great times.
Beautiful bikes there.
Looks fast. Is that a climb or a descent?
It's EPO
Still an unsung hero here in Denmark
For they all were on multi vitamins
I was in Sigonella Sicily watching this race with a coffee shop full of Italians who were routing against the Great Spaniard. I really was a fan of Indurain but if had I spoken up for Big Meg in that Sicilian coffee shop, I would not be here to write this.
San Francisco2024
Big Mig not Meg
Thats intresting since he was pretty popular in Italy. Having raced the Giro three times whilst winning two.
On the other hand he had won against many italian heroes along the way such as Chiappucci, Bugno and a young Pantani so it goes both ways.
"..the face in the middle... Jan Ulrich I think a man for the future." he knew well.
You know that 1996 they didn’t have the 50% haematocrit rule yet - which is why Mr. 60% ruled the peloton by being one of the most reckless. One year later one could see what happens if you put a threshold on the riders - there was one clearly superior driver who ruled the tour. And who would’ve won ‘98, too (if there wasn’t this episode with the “bonk”, whatever it really was…) 😢
Are you suggesting your boy Ullrich wasnt doped here? 😂
tbh ullrich could have easily won 1996 tour too. Career wise perhaps every race he raced in if he didnt enjoy alcohol, drugs and women more than cycling
è una cosa speciale, è il top assoluto, un passista scalatore, un omone che si alza sui pedali e da solo distrugge Indurain, il dittatore del Tour, il nemico assoluto, è una cosa fantastica. non c'entra un cazzo il doping ( erano tutti preparati alla stessa maniera, italiani inclusi, facevano autotrasfusioni per aumentare l'ematocrito già da metà anni 80, nel ciclismo come nell'atletica o altrove ). quindi silenzio davanti a questa prestazione leggendaria. a 3:27 io mi commuovo. è troppo bello da vedere.
Voglio sperare tu sia ironico nella conclusione tra il poetico ed il mistico, perchè il resto è tutto drammaticamente vero. Aggiungerei tra le altre cose che è stata proprio la farmacia italiana, quella dei Conconi, Grazzi, Casoni, Cecchini, Ferrari a creare prima l'emo-doping e poi l'epo doping, diffondendolo a macchia d'olio in tutto il peloton. Nella connivenza delle istituzioni (si pensi a Romano Prodi che ancora oggi presenzia ad incontri e convegni con Conconi) e delle federazioni, nonchè nell'ipocrisia di chi tra ex, commentatori, opinionisti tutto sapeva e tutto celava, per poi punire il capro espiatorio di turno e far finta sia avvenuta una ripulita.
Ma tutti usano il 39 x 23 e lui il 49
Back when they did 50km/h uphill.
Those were the days
Some EPO came out of my screen, while I was watching this video
Go ahead and take some 😈
We all know this was generation epo so please stop pointing fingers at just one…Riis was intelligent-brave combined with super power
The generation of EPO is MUCH stronger today and is used by the best runners, rowers, fighters, runners and cyclists.
@@durianriders if that’s true, doesn’t changed anything what I pinpointed..equal competition
@Dan T which “clean” riders from that era are you thinking of,,in the tour de france?
@Dan T but we’re talking Tour de France here,,I’m not trying to defend anything,just how things were back then..corrupt and a needle
Nothings changed
3:29 Mr. 60 percent puts the hammer down and begins his circus strongman act!
Riis is why they decided to crack down and regulate drugs more, he's a nobody who's system took exceptionally well to it. The UCI is cool with a lil dope if the rider is star or insane youth talent but Riis was an old water carrier and believability was at stake.
Wow this race was doped.
You gotta be naive to think the riders today are clean.
@@123wrain You know this is a satirical comment, right? Yes, I know you are.
They all are. The riders nowadays are climbing the steep mountains in the same time as the riders of the 1990s. They are just hiding it better today.
@@peternielsen8601 that's right. The latest time trial from TDF says it all. Someone said he can't believe the numbers he's seeing.
Good lads. Remember the old way
The commentator states "A man not renowned for his climbing has left the climbers behind". Looking back at it now with everything we know it is really quite comical. That said it made for great storylines and made the sport a spectacle.
Absolute shambles of a man.
Riis juiced up. Actually the top 10 of that tour were all on it.
Indurain was a freak of nature so he was an exception
"What I wanted [was] to see how they looked in their faces.. and most of them didn't look so well" (18:30).
Definitely an Epo...er Epic ride.
Both true 😉
SOID! THE! MIG!!! THE! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (G,O,A,T)!!!
03:29 Riis lays down the hammer and goes full gas! 😤
In the background, behind Paul and Phil, you can hear the spectators and commentators freaking out! I can’t be the only one who misses when the tour was like this 😕
Well he admitted later he was on drugs... Me, I do not miss it.
@@freecatalonianow they all were. they all were.
Not to the same degree as Riis. He was on the absolute brink of death - if you read Jef D’Honts's book Riis was extremely mean towards other people and abused EPO to such a ridiculous degree that he had to get daily blood thinning injections because his hands stopped working and his heart couldn't pump his blood - meanwhile Jan Ulrich and others showed sportsmanship and loved their family too much to go 64% hematocrit. Point is there is degrees in this, and Riis was the biggest junkie of them all (excluding others like Armstrong later on, bit more sophisticated junkie though).
@@EscapeKey well I live in a democracy. Rule of law.
Can you PROVE everyone did it? No, you can’t.
Innocent until proven guilty.
End of conversation for me. 🍻
@@freecatalonianow is that a joke? there have been so many admissions, so many articles, so many issues raised, so many actions taken... - like the entire of festina being raided in 1998, for instance. and how about michele ferrari and eufemiano fuentes? their client lists were miles long.
7.57 I remember Tony Rominger - he spoke Danish with a funny accent.
SOID! THE! (MIG)!!! THE! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (G,O,A,T)!!! IS! THE! INSPIRATION! FOR! LANCE! ARMSTRONG! SOID! CONSIDER! (YOURSELF)!!!! NOW! (INFORMED)!!! BY! (ME)!!! SOID! *MIKE!!! SPENCE!!! THE! (G,O,A,T,B)!!!
28 años después, y sigue doliendo.
At 13:39 the commentator says the group of climbers couldnt match the power of Bjarn Riis and Riis in not renouned as a.climber! Now if there ever where a red flag 🤦♂️
Only problem is that Riis (as most would know) had in fact done very great in mountains for a couple of years by then, and that btw those 3 climbers (who were not better climbers, but simply less allround) were also doped each one of them. The sudden strenght of an up till then unknown laurent dufaux along with pascal herve from festina was way more smelly.
@@maltrhoLaurent Dufaux now thats a name i havent heard in a long time. Brings back memories. Thanks 👊
Indurain was on EPO already for years. Riis started in 1993 with this and took it to another level in 1995. This was seriously a level Indurain didn’t want to go to and was forced to retire.
I’ve always suspected why Indurain quit so suddenly. Before this tour he was dominant as ever and even won the Olympic TT before the disastrous autumn which was excused as a breakdown with his Banesto team. We shouldnt forget his physio Sabino Padilla walked out the year before and that a guy named Brisson had a suggestion for a EPO test in February 1996 (they didnt have any prior to this Tour) and that they started to take intrests in this.
In hindsight it was a clever move by Mig since it all crashed down on everyone just a few years later. None of the riders in the clip isnt either a convicted doper or having a disgraced name - except Indurain who we know doped but just got out in time for not having his name draught in the mud.
Riis, in particular, is here so doped that he even violated the hematocritlevels set by DDR-doctors Schmid and Lothar by over 10%. It was insane what they had to do to topple Big Mig.
I think the controls were of hematocrit levels not EPO
Of course. You’re right.
@@david9243 Indurain always said he "complied with the rules." Thats not doping.
@@danx8482: Obviously, at the time, many things that is now forbidden would be considered legal because as i said they didnt had a proper metric to detect EPO or blood doping. So in this regard sure Indurain would be considered ”clean” because he was always transparent with the authorities and never failed a test right?
But that is also my point that he got out in due time before it broke. Guys like Riis didnt confess until 2007 but all of his Telekom domestiques at the time like Ullrich, Zabel, Bölts was caught or confessed.
Mr 60% reached 62% that day
he was talented to reached 62 % .d
@@mariusgerstner2549 His talent is not to have died after so much drugs.
@@tx4n so true!
that era was so ridiculous 😏
Riis was doped out of his head
He was simple the best😊 fantastic race of Riis. Every onde was compieding on the same level
Mr. 60%, shame of cycling
@@jozuavanlangenhove6586 'Being drugged you can still have a bad day'. Sure, great argument... HE WAS ON DRUGS. He should not be part of Le Tour de France history...
@@jozuavanlangenhove6586 All that have admitted that were drugged, or found guilty of, should be nanned from history books…
Lance Armstrong, Bjarne Riis, Ben Johnson, Jan Ulrich, André Agassi…
I’m sure we can agree on that…
Others, as a believer of rule of law, innocent until proven guilty.
@@jozuavanlangenhove6586 innocent until proven guilty = rule of law.
Anyone who saw it live knows something strange was going on with RIijs
Who says drugs don't work
I remember Fignon saying Riis was a nobody in cycling. And then................................
When did Fignon say that. Cause i just saw an Danish program about Riis (after he won TdF) where Fignon speaks highly about Riis.
@@jenstoldshj8253 it was in his book, We Were Young and Carefree
Doesn't get anymore mutant than this
No sympathy for indurain, he cheated Lemond in 91. Karma is a bitch.
Look at his hand movement when he sits and rides them off his wheel. :)
SOID! THE! MIG!!! THE! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (G,O,A,T)!!! SOID! IS! THE! INSPIRATION! FOR! LANCE! ARMSTRONG! SOID! CONSIDER! (YOURSELF)!!! NOW! (INFORMED)!!! BY! (ME)!!! SOID! *MIKE!!! SPENCE!!! THE! (G,O,A,T,B)!!!
Ulrich , indurain, and riis leading up a 7% climb ?. Wtf were they on?
I dont know what exactly they/he was on, but he did later publicly admit that he was doped... ;-(
I was thinking about this era the other day. To be frank it’s unlikely that any of the top riders were clean, but what set these guys apart from the whole Lance debacle is that they weren’t jerks. Lance chasing and catching Simone then lecturing him while racing (presumably about Ferrari) showed us all what an ass he was. The rest is history. I doubt Riis would have been exposed if it weren’t for the Lance situation and the witch hunt aftermath. But I gather that we can all agree that, doping or not, the Indurain era produced done exciting racing,
Cheers
Everything in the medicin bag
Ullrich was as strong, or actually might stronger than Riis but encumbered by being Riis's teammate
@@tomdavis3038 Amstrong was not just a jerk. He has been described by the FBI as a narcisist psychopath. He entertained a criminal organisation, committed crimes, and went after people.
The biggest performance enhancing substance abuser in this tour was Phil Liggett.
EPO Golden Age
What would actually happen to a decent amateur cyclist if they started serious training in the Alps and Pyrenees and started HGH, testosterone and EPO??
" la Belle EPOque"🎉
Monsieur 60
Epoooooo
Doped racing was better than today's racing.
They were all on gear. Who cares, the best was still the best.
they are all on juice today maybe 2010-2016 was clean-ish
Yet he keeps his tdf win
42x23
Dope(d)
How funny how the comentator explains why Riis's tactic is bad...
The time when only had to work of blood doping, steroid, now we worry about moped motors, tesla motors, boing turbines.
The Danish know what is good!
Indurain is the BEST of all history
Nah. He just didn't have the best doctor that year
@@mortenpoulsen1496 Now say It without criying 😭
@@mortenpoulsen1496 Riis Doped man 😂
@@messiasd10s78 Indurain didnt?
@@mortenpoulsen1496 Do you have any proof? ....circulate.
More juice than the cold aisle in a supermarket. By the way guys all this ranting about Hematocrit…? I am 63 and a pretty ordinary cyclist despite naturally having between 50 and 56% hematocrit. So it’s not the full story 😅
U can do alot when your doped up.
mr 60
Riis doing 480 watts for 34 min
He's riding like a superb Doper🤣🤣🤣
he was stronger than indurain ..but he did not that before coz he did not believe the tour of france many years ago was not for him
Mdrrrr riis est bien dopé 👎👎👎👎
Greg Lemond was better :)
40km/h average speed in a mountain stage... way to go EPO!
beh , mica tanto epica , Riis li ha bastonati tutti
That is what doping looks like ladies and gentleman
Epo power
💉💉
Riis one of the worst spoofers, in a sport replete with spoofers/spivs/cheats.
You just don't like him because he's bald.
Bjarne Riis 💪🇩🇰🇩🇰
EPO 💪💉💉
@@TommyCarstensen I don't care 🤷♂️
Så du er ligeglad om Crack Bjarne lyver og bedrager? Han har ALDRIG vundet Touren.
@@SjefVanOekelDraaftDoor Han vandt Touren på lige vilkår.
@@henriksrensen3220 Så du mener Jonas og alle andre var også dopet.
This is a big joke.Riijs-EPOman can´t win the Tour clean
Epooooooooooo