Stiv Bators Talks Sid Vicious and Nancy's Murder (Proof Sid didn't Kill Nancy) Rare Footage

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  • Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
  • Stiv Bators speaks about his friendship with both Sid and Nancy and what really happened to Sid and Nancy.

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  • @MusicalAddictionOnlineLessons
    @MusicalAddictionOnlineLessons 5 місяців тому +10

    Been watching/reading about this for years, this seems like the most genuine, reliable account I've come across.

  • @dathorndike4908
    @dathorndike4908 7 місяців тому +18

    Stiv really sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I believe he does.

  • @desertrose1226
    @desertrose1226 8 місяців тому +24

    Stiv looks here like a cross between Alice Cooper, Ric Ocasek and John Lennon!
    RIP Stiv and Sid. Gone too soon.

  • @ianwhitehead691
    @ianwhitehead691 6 місяців тому +15

    I believe what he is saying about that night is probably what happened.

  • @TerryChimes123
    @TerryChimes123 5 місяців тому +10

    I met him in 1982 and he told me the same story.

  • @robbiewarden
    @robbiewarden День тому

    On top of being a great guy Stiv was smart AF. Happy to have spent some time with him. ❤

  • @martinrees4788
    @martinrees4788 6 місяців тому +14

    Kind of confirms what I've always suspected.
    1- The involvement of Steve Cinchetto (Tuinal dealer, supposedly unstable character. In later life he turned to the Catholic Church so possible guilt complex over Nancy's death?
    2- Sid is incapacitated due to Tuinal on night of her death, and would have used his own blade. Yet why when he loved her to bits. They fought when intoxicated yes, but never escalated to attempting to kill one another.
    3- Crime scene, too clean and obviously been wiped, missing money, lots of money
    4- Mysterious individual known as Michael disappears around the same time
    5- Police have redacted the names of five suspects in official records
    6- Peter Kodick/ Gravelle knows more, apparently he obtained strong heroin from a batch ordered by Keith Richards from an Englishwoman known as Maggie as upcoming Rolling Stones gigs in US at the time. Same woman supplies heroin to John Belushi who dies from a speedball several years later. Allegedly she can travel under diplomatic immunity as her father works in British embassy
    6- Rockets Redglare is and never was a real suspect. Too obvious
    7- Anne Beverley is more involved. Sid is looking at long sentence and wants to check out? Twisted mercy killing?
    8- Hotshot, there have been suggestions, also misadventure as Sid's tolerance is low following enforced detoxification. However heroin alone is not in his bloodstream, our old friend Tuinal pops up. Notorious for amplifying effects of opioids
    Mmm, maybe John Lyndon has the right idea. We will never know. Smack happened, Rock'nRoll mystery. Maybe keep it that way
    RIP Sid'n'Nancy❤

    • @BootlegGarage108
      @BootlegGarage108  6 місяців тому +3

      Back than they didn't look into cases as deep as they do know especially 2 know drug addicts.

    • @martinrees4788
      @martinrees4788 6 місяців тому +3

      @@BootlegGarage108 You're right there. Would be a different result today, most definitely. Still very interesting. I've never seen the footage you uploaded. Bators was involved in that scene which was very small. Nice one man😎

    • @hatednyc
      @hatednyc 6 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely bang on. Too many holes in the official narrative. NYPD didn’t care to investigate.

  • @user-gw2bm3vx4p
    @user-gw2bm3vx4p 2 місяці тому +3

    Stiv seemed like a down to earth guy. This does seem like the more logical conclusion on what happened, in my opinion.

  • @martinrees4788
    @martinrees4788 5 місяців тому +1

    I would watch Sad Vacation docu or Who killed Nancy both informative if you are interested in this case. Very revealing and puts a lot of the myths in perspective

  • @reverendjames9842
    @reverendjames9842 6 місяців тому +2

    Well, that cleared that up :/ Any wonder it was never solved with witnesses like this?

  • @roterfuchs8201
    @roterfuchs8201 5 місяців тому +2

    Rockets Redglare is the dealer he's talking about

  • @winnipegperfectcircleflyin7859
    @winnipegperfectcircleflyin7859 7 місяців тому +4

    interesting

  • @dathorndike4908
    @dathorndike4908 7 місяців тому +6

    What happened to Stiv's mouth? damn.

    • @jake6t9
      @jake6t9 6 місяців тому +5

      I believe he got that from eating baloney off of the stage floor at CBGBs.

    • @nathueil1
      @nathueil1 6 місяців тому +1

      It’s called a Stiv.

    • @tonystevenson26
      @tonystevenson26 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jake6t9mmmmm, stage bologna!

    • @bradhome1323
      @bradhome1323 3 місяці тому

      right ? I don't remember it like that when he was in the lords ?

    • @evangeline77x
      @evangeline77x Місяць тому

      He had a scar through the side of his upper lip.

  • @stevenimeson902
    @stevenimeson902 6 місяців тому

    Amen stiv , I have a 007 blade and mine still has the leather tong

  • @newwavepop
    @newwavepop 6 місяців тому +1

    trying not to talk about it or think about it, but the camera man blatantly zoomed in on it. any way there is aor at least was an awesome video similar to this with Sid and Nancy and Stiv and Cynthia all together.

  • @winnipegperfectcircleflyin7859
    @winnipegperfectcircleflyin7859 6 місяців тому +2

    So Stiv is saying the killers name was Michael?

    • @SM-mx1it
      @SM-mx1it 6 місяців тому +1

      Rockets Redglare (born Michael Morra; May 8, 1949 - May 28, 2001)
      Not an official police suspect, but some say it was him. He sold dope back then and may have been there that night.

  • @justsomedudeyouknow8372
    @justsomedudeyouknow8372 6 місяців тому +3

    Whats wrong with his lip?

    • @necromaya
      @necromaya 4 місяці тому +1

      He had a big mole there that he most of removed at a later date. You can see it in other pics, his lip on on side was still a little swollen.

  • @RavnerRavner
    @RavnerRavner 6 місяців тому +2

    What is going on with his upper lip?!?!

  • @mj.l
    @mj.l 5 місяців тому +1

    sid was innocent