Why some in NYC say overnight deliveries just won't work
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Cutting back on truck deliveries during the day is one way New York City's Department of Transportation says the city's often paralyzing traffic could be reduced, but some business owners say overnight deliveries are not for everyone. CBS New York political reporter Marcia Kramer has more.
The city that never sleeps but everything in the city is closed at 9pm.🤣🤣🤣
I was just in Brooklyn to pick something up at Microcenter. I didn't eat dinner and was looking for something to eat at 8pm on my way out of Microcenter. Everything was closed.
Dude and then New Yrokers make fun of london its not like theres much difference other than the skyscrapers 😂
Yup side effect of gentrification
@@GROGU123KFC was open
You probably live on the UES..lol... Thanks for sharing gramps...
As vendor who drives to the city, getting people who double park ticketed fast will help, also getting all those annoying city workers with passes to "park everywhere" and take the spots for commercial vehicles will work wonders.
Annoying city workers? You mean the ones who help the city run and without them the city would crumble?
@@juliusbrewster No, I literally mean annoying, abusive and entitled city workers. Not all of them are like that, but there are a lot of cops, firefighter, mta etc that put a pass on their dashboard and park in front of a hydrant, in front of a school, in front of a commercial space to load and unload products, yet they do not get any tickets. This people should be fined and reprimanded for abuse of power. FYI, I am also a city worker and have my own business and I have never done this, but I know plenty who do.
The city made two no-parking "loading zones" in my delivery area so that I don't have to double park my truck, but I rarely get to use them because people with special plaques and plates just use it as regular parking. It's a joke.
@@colombiantomI know what you are talking about. I've seen it myself before
@@magellanicspacecloudslet the air out of their tires! It's not criminal mischief
overnight is a bad title description. "graveyard shift" would've been more accurate
It's going to be difficult finding people that want to work graveyard shift(all those business).the consequences make It a bad idea.
Yep they call it the graveyard shift because someone might walk up to you and shoot you for no reason
Right, everybody loves the idea of convenience but they won't work it themselves. We just got away from 24/7 Walmarts, no reason non emergency services should be open overnight.
@@andersonabreu1667 not really . It's plenty people doing it now ..
anybody will do any job for the right price. stop pushing this notion that people should be paid less than they are worth
Lol “by 2040” most people or businesses in question would be long gone from the world or NYC by then 😂
Why do they assume we live forever. That is 16 years from now.
When Pathmark grocery stores were still around in the city, we always did our deliveries in the form of drop and switch trailers between midnight and dawn. Frozen and perishables were also delivered within this time frame as partial palletized loads, in and out easy peazy.
PATHMARK WAS A NICE STORE UNTIL ONLINE SHOPPING CAME ALONG AND FKD EVERYTHIGN UP
Who the F is going to be around for a nighttime delivery? Also not safe whatsoever with crime.
It’s actually fine. I have walked all over NYC without any issues. I also have worked in the middle of the night in NYC and there is no shortage of people doing the same. This is about Manhattan not the rest of the city.
? R u dumb IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY EVERY NIGHT 😂😂😂 where do u live bud
What about cutting back on all the Uber cars that are roaming the street like maniacs.
That would indeed reduce congestion.
Also cut back on hipsters riding bikes playing instrumentals
True...the city created this mess allowing uber and lyft to complete with black town cars and yellow cabs
Why is it that you people's solution to every problem is just more top down government control of people
This is exactly why not: TLC and NYC want to keep making money out of the fees from Taxi License. Even drivers are asking to stop crowding the market. Remember the “Green 2030” initiative? This is the consequence of an imprudent and without limit change of regulation in over-night.
it will create too much noise.
the city is already noisy, most people do not live downtown, too expensive
Not really .
You live in a major city
@@dodobono452 it doesn't give you an excuse to make too much noise.
@@Lobsterman5481 it should be expected though.
everything but expand the train services between nyc and nj. the gwb can support train and was designed to do so. c line was supposed to cross the gwb into jersey
Nobody risking their lives in smelly trains
@CRAPO2011 Only millions every week, but that's nobody, right?
They want your money and looking for all the ways to extract it from
Extract or extort?
they need to be more worried about the growing crime rate instead of this
It's called "multitasking." It's what one expects of any assistant.
Why would the Department of Transportation focus on crime? That's a NYPD issue.
You can't walk and chew gum at the same time?
So where's the extra cash to pay drivers a night differential going to come from?
Who at the "business" is going to stay overnight to wait for a delivery while the business is otherwise closed? Pay someone to do nothing?
What about noise complaints from people hearing *"BEEP-BEEP-BEEP!"* from trucks backing in somewhere at 2-3am, or from just regular loading/unloading noise as things get slammed around?
Oh yeah, that plan is going to work soooooooooo well...
Did you watch the video? The coffee shop delivery company clearly show it works.
Extra cash comes from drivers not being stuck in transit, spending less time with parking, less people in the streets to bump in to, etc
Cleaning and prepping already happens before/after hours today.
If you lived in manhattan you would already know that the city is noisy as hell, even at night.
They said there's an incentive
Garbage truck do the same beep beep at 3am
Many of these stores and restaurants are on residential streets. What about those living on lower street facing floors? Want them to wake up at 2 AM when a truck drops their lift gates?
Been saying this for years but it makes too much sense so it won't happen.
Lobbying bullcrap. I lived in Manhattan for over a decade. The bodega is open all night. The milk truck showed up around 3 or 4am. Unions can be negotiated with - I'm sure someone will take a little extra in the paycheck to be the early guy, show up at 4am for deliveries and go home at Noon.
This is a perfect example state and local government bureaucrats squandering the tax dollars that middle class workers and families are struggling to pay.
The DOT spent $6 million on a program called “Off-Hour Deliveries.” The DOT used taxpayer money to hand out checks to businesses to pay for installation of low-noise equipment, building security retrofits to enable unattended deliveries, and safety equipment such as security cameras.
If you are poor or rich, NY is great. If you are work hard and make good money, NY is terrible. The state government siphons money away from middle class families so they can give it to their friends through government contracts and “non-profits”
It is a known fact that NYC subsidizes NY upstate!
Start with getting rid of those ridiculous eating areas taking up narrow NYC streets.. Covid is way over, yet these stupid shacks, that are empty... Just causing all these traffic problems..
Cars create traffic, not furniture
@@daveassanowicz186 furniture, in addition to walls that take up half of an already narrow street, with trucks, taxis, scooters, e-bikes, pedestrians.. I’m sorry, what were you saying?
@@hle144You’re right, so don’t worry about it, it wasn’t important !
If graveyard, overnight shifts don't work, try it at dawn: 3-4am, stop making excuses, the solution is there
😂 Dawn is when the sun comes up .... NOT 3- 4 AM. IFYOUONLYHADABRAIN
Dawn is 3:45 AM this week. The time the sun comes up is sunrise, which is around 5:30 AM this week. @@billybrown7953
True..... For ppl that says they cant hire an extra guy at night to take delivery then just let the delivery guy make an unattended drop at night. Is just sickening to see a large truck making deliveries double park in the busiest hours in the busiest street. Yes your store has needs but that is your problem dont inconvenience others becoz your store has needs.
@@hktrucker Who are they inconveniencing? The busiest hours meaning rush hour for people commuting? So how about we make the people commuting to work commute only during overnight hours? They are inconveniencing the rest of us that want to get around without traffic. Yes you need to get to work but that is your problem don't inconvenience others becoz you need to work.
@@JJ-sk9nsfirstly, double parked itself is illegal. "who are they inconveniencing? " you are talking about hundreds of cars having to get around 1 truck. I believe you drive to work right?! That means yourself included. And now you want everyone works at night so that your foods and toilet papers can be delivered to your store. Yeah see how well your business will do. This is the typical me first self centered mind set. A major problem in our society today.
@ 1:45....I started driving a 40,000lb of food truck in that program.....my truck got $900 - $1100 worth of tickets a night...
Again that’s the City being STUPID!
Let’s see how that cargo bike will work out. insane!
i question the people that say the roads are always jammed because it seems the busiest road isnt usually jammed. i think it was like rail? road or somthing like that?
😂 Clearly you've never actually used a railroad in NYC before! There are literally only two tracks going into and out of the city into NJ, which are shared between NJ transit and Amtrak. There are constant delays, especially during commuting hours. The subway trains are also often jam packed and delayed.
And if you're talking about cargo trains into NY, the goods still have to be collected from the train and delivered all across the city - it's not like there's a rail yard on every block.
We need more people working night shifts, accepting deliveries.
Did they say the city is willing to pay companies to deliver at night. Now the tax payer is paying private business. Geez!
We have stupid people in charge
I wouldn't let that "Commissioner" take care of my dog.
I wonder if he came legally to this country??
Commissioner of transportation please speak english😂😂
Union guys can work at night.
They are union, they get paid good enough to shift shifts
the "paralyzing traffic" is from all the misdirection the DOT (pedestrian plazas etc) been doing since the DeBlasio era. Then the same sheeple who drive the excessive demand for uber, food delivery services, dining sheds choking the streets are the same folks who want congestion pricing. It's Moronic
Yeah, what an insane idea to have people use city spaces to live. Cities should be built for cars to flow, not for people to live!
@@bcs1793 There was and IS always space for BOTH......
do you know the most delivery people are on bikes
@@cjspykerActually most of them are ON SCOOTERS.....the same ones zipping on the sidewalks, running the lights, going the opposite way.....the same ones the DOT and NYPD FAIL to regulate.
Actually it was Mayor Bloomberg that started and aggressively pushed hard for those Pedestrian plazas, and bike paths!
Mayor Deblassio just went along with it.
This all or nothing mentality is so often the true problem we face. We don't need ALL deliveries to be 100% overnight from one day to the next. I don't have access to the data, but I would bet that Pareto's principle holds here as well, i.e, that 20% of the stores cause 80% of the traffic related to deliveries.
Just incentivize big stores, which can already use night/early morning shifts for cleaning and prepping, like trader joes, whole foods, target, etc, to make overnight deliveries. Also, make amazon, fedex, dhs, etc also deliver at night - so often they paralyze an entire lane because they keep stopping at every other building.
When that's done, then we can think of the next steps.
I agree with your point about it not needing to be 100% right away but it still doesn't realistically work. Big box stores like you said are the only ones that can pull it off. From what I can tell they already do overnight deliveries as they don't usually have workers doing major inventory stocking during store hours. Amazon, fedex, ups etc can't do overnight deliveries to most people unless you want a bunch of packages left unattended in front buildings.
IT can be done, Order 3 days in advance and you will never run out. If you can work during the day you can work during the Night, NYC operates 24 hours, I used to work in wall street and Kitchens would get deliveries as early as 12 am. Most deliveries in those kitchens came in from 12am-6am. Double order when you need to so there are no delays. Trust me it can be done.
If Union guys don't want to work during the day time, they won't have a job and newcomers will.
They should give those incentives instead to support NY companies doing remote work with employees living in NYC. That will reduce cars on the road at peak hours.
Oh we can’t do that, they would have to get rid of a lot of useless middle managers that overseer the workers.
@@phantomcruizer 🤣
Why can't bodegas take deliveries at night?
Too expensive when nobody is working. Like the person said, they would need all their vendors to deliver at the same time to make sense. A couple of vendors delivering at night and all the others not willing to doesn’t work.
The same reason as why can't you just commute to work at night? The traffic will be better.
you have to be a special kind of stoopid. why dont you go to work at 2am?
So now me as the delivery person I’m forced to change the time I spend with my family to go to work at night just to keep my job 🤦🏻♂️, they better be ready to pay a premium price for my service
Meanwhile it probably takes you an hour to go a few avenues during the day just to make deliveries when you can do it in a fraction of time at night.
Deliver at night.
Come home and take your kids to school in the morning.
sleep during school hours.
pick them at 3 pm and spend all afternoon and evening with them.
Put them to bed and then go to work.
WIN WIN
More family and home time.
Easier navigating the streets.
You aren't going to be obligated to do your work overnights, they may choose someone else to do the job in that case.
🤔 There’s a saying at work to all complainers: “if you want your paycheck, benefits, and your pension this is what you have to do to get them…otherwise stay home…now get hot!” 😏
Delivery-Driver-Tunnels, modern infrastructure for a huge capacity city, add-on a superior storm-drain; bring freight up through sidewalk on elevators.
When you hear that Beep Beep at night, that's the sound of your latte showing up from some other country or the eggs from the south maybe fuel for taxis and personal vehicles. Places like new York treat truck drivers like crap with poorly managed/ no loading areas, fines, booting and barnacles. That driver wouldn't be there with out the demand that's how that works.
I live in the middle of a pasture in rural country and I see a dozen delivery trucks a day out here, what do you expect in a place the size of New York?
I agree. I hate delivery trucks they park it the dumbest places to unload. The guy who delivers for my local liquor store parks across the street because the trunk wont fin the the lot. Walks all the boxes across the street. Doesnt even use the cross walk. It sucks if you work early in the morning
As always, people who aren't affected by these massive changes, demanding that others make the sacrifice. We say this same thing during covid with the people who got to keep their jobs telling the rest of us to stay home. If you want to help congestion, then YOU stop driving downtown. Don't force others to make the sacrifice for you.
Unblock all the streets that are choked with dining sheds, pedestrian plazas, bike lanes, etc. Our leaders have caused the problems they say they're trying to solve.
That Frankenstein looking transportation commissioner who can't speak English needs to be replaced. All of this nonsense with bike lanes, dining sheds and citibike stands everywhere is his doing.
do you know that no bike Lanes will cost more traffic
OK, Robert Moses.
They just don't want to work OVERNIGHT Ive see a lot of deliveries especially food delivery for supermarket around away in MANHATTAN being delivered OVERNIGHT
Overnight delivery is not great. I have worked with places that used it. Modt the time we gave the delivery person a code and tgey accessed the building with no one else there. Which is obviously risky from both the driver or any random criminals who take advantage of the door being propped open.
Even the quality of the delivery was worse as you got more missed or damaged products as there was no one to refuse on delivery, often leading to lengthy fights to get refunds or replacements.
Take more lanes away for bikes, that’ll help
The noise complaint is gonna go up at night.
This is absolutely a great idea, I’ve been saying this
Whats funny is that a majority of the studies of off hour deliveries show that it will help with traffic, pollution, deliveries, parking,costs etc
the reason why some want to keep it at day time is to charge more money, as being stuck in traffic means more billable hours
@@TravelTechie415 This is ridiculous. People don't want it at night because it's absurdly impractical. These businesses aren't open at night.
Studies show that you will lose weight if you only eat once a week. The obvious rejoiner is that it's not practical. The people it doesn't help is the people who now have to do overnight deliveries. These businesses aren't open at night.
@@TravelTechie415 that's why I think NYC was so hell bent to charge congestion pricing, as opposed to the delivery shift, which might lower revenues or level them and NOT increase revenue.
@@justaguy328 and yet, somehow, Europe makes it work. Are they all vampires over there?🧛🏻♀️
NYC is a good test for autonomus delivery.
Keep congestion price the same but up it for delivery truck to $100 between 6am-10pm then 12am-6am free everyone gonna make it possible from impossible.
It’s to dangerous at night, no cops around. Don’t past that bill. Only deliveries truck at the peak hr. Have no parking, during those hrs. Emergency vehicles only., it can work .
That would make less traffic all deliveries made at night
Way too many cabs in the city
Overnight deliveries is an idea that comes from people who have no idea how the city works and lives in a bubble. Exactly who is going to pay workers to sit around overnight to wait for a delivery if you're receiving it? 99% of business operate during normal business hours, do you expect all of these businesses to stay open 24/7 because they have to wait for deliveries to come in overnight? It is only logical that business is conducted during business hours, and shipping and receiving is a large part of business activity. Imagine people wanted to limit the use of internet bandwidth during daytime so people could browse the internet without delay so it was proposed that all businesses should only be allowed to send and receive work emails during overnight hours. This is the dumbest idea I have ever heard.
Did you watch the video? The company that supplies coffee shops clearly shows it works. Stores already have people doing prepping/cleaning hours before they open.
@@bcs1793some stores do, not all. Graveyard shifts suck.
Cause coffee shope.usually open up.at 6
@@bcs1793 Did you watch the video? The company that supplies the lighting clearly shows it doesn't work. If you ever work with logistics, companies have receiving hours and they are quite limited. You are proving my statement about people being ignorant and living in a bubble right... That guy you are referring to is the CEO of a coffee supply delivery company promoting his business. Most coffee shops are not ordering through his company, he is saying it works for him and his few customers... that does not translate to the entire NYC economy.
@@bcs1793 Coffee shops have to open at 6am which means they usually have employees on site doing prep work at 3-4am anyways. The vast majority of other business don't open that early and don't normally have employees ready to accept deliveries at 3-4am
Public officials coming up with these ideas are out of touch, if you want to cover OT for union workers just to take delivers then cough up the money.
No personal vehicles allowed on the streets. Commercial vehicles, buses, and emergency vehicles are staying.
NOT practical…MTA will NOT get you there, or in a timely manner!
@@phantomcruizer it's practical.
How are you gonna load a 4000 pound pallet of onions and potatoes onto a EV or cargo bike....
200 to 400 pounds at a time for the bike. An EV can easily handle 2 tons. These things can all be worked out. People are deliberately being difficult about it. They don't want to change.
I agree! EVs aren't the answer. Simply put can't load that kinda weight into an EV
They double, triple, park and do it both sides, the Amazon and fedex are the worst, they take over each block and set a distribution hub in the middle of the street.
How did those fool become a commissioner
Everything is possible if u pay enough
Then get ready to pay yourself! $10 for a 20oz soda!
At what point does it become too expensive to get the simplest thing done!
more and more....nyc just doesn't work
Yes they can. Get people who are nocturnal plenty of people stay up all night.
You have to force guys to work at night on both ends. Won't work.
The NYC DOT created this traffic mess because they took away 2 Lanes from the Avenues for the dumb Bike Lanes and moving the curb parking to the middle of the street
That's not true. Hours are not fixed!
this is so catastrophically misguided. the city doesnt cool off well as it is. without the nighttime reduction in traffic, nyc will feel more like jamaica and harken back to 90s LA pollution. we could greatly reduce road traffic if we restored some of the east-west freight rail that already exists. some of the worst traffic runs parallel to the sunken brooklyn-queens rail. its almost like amazon picked their locations along the brooklyn waterfront hoping they would.. some depot-depot carrier trucks operate at night; restoring the E/W freight lines would let union workers load and unload them during the day, with a fraction the number of workers operating vehicles (way lower liability and distributed costs).
Delivery truck needs armed escorts. All the crazies and homeless would attack these trucks for their cargo.
Have they lost their minds
Cargo bikes are gonna clean up
New York is where dreams go to die.
glad I live far, far away from this cesspool city
How about we ACTUALLY enforce parking rules? Im tired of seeing any car that feel entitled parked in commercial parking or truck loading zones and not get ticketed. As a result,commercial trucks have to double park.
I'm sorry but if the city (and indirectly voters) don't give me commercial parking space for my truck, then they don't get to be mad that I'm blocking them double parked. People have a very selfish point of view here. They want both the street parking for their personal car and all the groceries and packages delivered to homes and stores. In the most congested place in America, they wanna have their cake and eat it too.
Make it the legal requirement and slowly shift delivery hours by half an hour every year for the next 14 years. 7am - 2pm becomes 12am-7am overnight deliveries as a gradual change.
How about no.cars...why do they have to bend to your will
@@ralphpal Are you asking why the 8 to 12 percent of delivery trucks on the NYC roads should service the 88 to 92 percent of general transportation vehicles? How about common sense?
Trucks clog up streets by being overly large. Then they completely block streets by double parking for deliveries. While deliveries are vital for the city, there's no real reason they can't be done at night other then convenience factor. If it was done at night when the streets are far emptier, the traffic is so much lighter. The trucks can move around faster, and double parking won't really matter.
This is opposed to daytime driving where most people have no choice but to drive since they need to go about their daily lives.
@@nybiggs Trucks are large but they are efficient in the sense that they are loaded up with cargo. Most cars driving around is a single person driving a vehicle alone. This takes up much more space and completely inefficient if you took the unused space on a truck vs all the single occupant cars. Why put restrictions on deliveries instead of passenger cars? Lets make passenger cars limited to after hours use only instead. You see the point I'm making?
@@JJ-sk9ns I understand what you're saying but it's not taking into consideration the impact. Night time deliveries would be a major inconvience for business owners and delivery companies/drivers. That's a very small percent of the population.
You also ignore the fact that trucks clog streets. Have you ever been stuck waiting for a delivery driver blocking the street for 10+ minutes? That back up just builds and starts affecting other streets exponentially. It's certainly happened to me mulitple times.
We're trying to improve conditions for the greater good, or the majority of New Yorkers. You take 8-12% of vehicles off the road, and greatly reduce backups, congestion improves significantly. for most drivers.
Great idea!
The leaders of NYC are working hard to ensure NYC becomes the California of the East....
Continue making foolish policies, busineses will just close, resulting in no traffic.
👏👏👏👏
Highly supoort, designate certain roads to trucks only.
Dumb idea… just throwing good money at bad ideas….
Does New York City have a only drive your personal vehicle on the day your license plate last number is odd or even. That's done in other countries to help with traffic. And it works good
How about Vanity Plates ?
Do they have a a better public transit system than MTA?
Not speaking to the traffic issue, this report is a snapshot of the problem with government/civil service.
So the commissioner has no responsibility, basically you won’t see my success until the next generation…nobody can ever be held responsible. Just spend more money, hire more leaches/people.
WHY😊
Blud said by 2040 😂
Uber is getting out of control
Nyc and LA should just move in together somewhere in the middle of nowhere & never come out. Build walls around their new city
How about getting rid of the stupid BIKE LANES and turning streets back Car traffic streets without people eating and sitting like it's Park.
Easy theft 100% anything at night 😂😂😂 that means higher police presence during the night to tackle any threat for more workers working at night
The criminals will love it🤣
Paralyzing traffic ?
How about getting rid of bike lanes permanently!
Bloomberg and NYC DOT caused this disaster by pushing bike lanes.
…..2040😂 by then trust me we’ll have fewer cars probably fewer people and temperatures reaching 150+. On a minimum.
Get rid of the paparazzi. It’s that’s easy.
These drivers all have lives and families. Forcing them to now work at night isn't right. Many of them will be out of work.
Take out the bike lanes and bus lanes and poof, less congestion
Overnight deliveries totally make sense. I'm all for it..
Crime rate priority please. Plus you know the muggers will be waiting when they change shift.
Finally
the irony of those reporters saying what they said at the end there, thats what congestion pricing is supposed to be in place for.
It all the Uber car and taxi then other vehicles
Humanity is pretty spoiled. *Too* spoiled. To be honest, more humans should plan WAY ahead. There's no reason to expect any delivery in 12-24 hours. That's LUDICROUS until or unless teleportation becomes a thing (lol).
ROCKBAR 4 EVER/ what’s with this anti union papa Gandalf
Then close down your business
How about dont drive into the city
You got to do what you got to do, cause MTA will not get you there in a timely manner!
To reduce greenhouse gases, all deliveries should be via public transit.
Wait for congestion pricing for pedestrians.
I always joked saying it would cost money to walk down the street in NYC..... STAY Tuned!
clown world central.
It will force business owners to create a new work shift which will be very costly. Not affordable!!!
So we paused congestion pricing so that rich people can still drive into Manhattan without having to pay, now we take the money from everybody to incentives night time delivery. This just sounds like a taking from the poor to give it to the rich kinda bs.
Do something about crime stop wasting time on nonsense
Excessive traffic is nonsense? Ok.