@@stroupperformance9384 im wondering about doing just that. what other info can you lead me in. great video btw. thinking about this swap vs the v8 now.
@@mindtrick714 I would check out Jimmy Lunchmeat's channel. He has done a 2.0 ecoboost swap in his. I can't give much specific info on the ranger swap, as I have not done one. I can only give generic ecoboost swap help/advice.
@@mindtrick714if yours is a 2003+ with a Duratec 2.3 an eco 2.0/2.3 would be an easy swap since it will bolt directly into the existing mounts and transmission
@@young11984 this is only partially correct. You will need a custom passenger side engine mount and the firewall will need to be pushed back 6" or so to clear the high pressure fuel pump.
Just finishing up installing a 2.3 EcoBoost crate motor (from Ford) our full race 1970 FordCortina GT . Used a spun steel bellhousing from Quick Time mated to a T5/G-Force. Transmission and a Winters mini-quick change. Almost a straight forward install, transmission did not have to be moved, removed small section of firewall but due to. Ground clearance problems had to install a Mountune dry sump system. .Used the 2015-2017 wiring harness , had to bypass computer for the electric fuel pump and start system. Believe this is the only Cortina in the world with a 2.3 EcoBoost. only Cortina MK2
Would be interested in seeing how the engine and transmission mounts were done. I've thought about building a Pinto Restomod with the Mustang 2.3 Ecoboost, think such a build would be a mean ride.
No way, I'm the biggest Ecoboost 2.0/2.3, so glad I found your channel after seeing you on ThatDudeinBlue. I'm gonna check all your stuff out later. I'd like to get an Ecoboost Mustang down the road and have also been thinking about Ecoboost swapping an earlier Mustang as well, I have an 02 drift car right now.
These are easy to swap in 1st gen Mustangs. Straight 6s have the same bellhousing bolt pattern as SBF. Lots of room. Ecoboost swap gets more power, add power steering, power brakes (4 corner drum with 4 lug gone and new 5 lug disc front with 5 lug rear axle.) And Air conditioning components are available.
Use a 2.5 duratec block/closed deck also, 2.3 eco rotating assembly with 2.5 head eliminating the head a fold and DI for simplicity. Mustang, mazda miata, Ranger and Mazda b2300 transmission for bolt on transmission/ECUs. JS if you have access to multiple engine options to play with
The duratec block and head are good options. But you would need to buy or fabricate a turbo manifold for it which could get expensive. Also the manual transmissions they put behind those were pretty weak. I think the simplest way to complete the swap is to buy a used 2.0 Ecoboost. But you could definitely do a complete build with the duratec and have the 4 port head and longer stroke.
@@stroupperformance9384 the transmissions i mentions are bolt on but Esslinger has a SBF bolt pattern adapter than you could bolt anything for an older pushrod 5.0 to it and that opens up a world of options. Also the 6R80 can take a lot of abuse and its a factory auto option from the Mustang which is what i have behind my turbo 2.5. Turbo manifolds can be had from $120 to $500 or more if you want a tubular stainless one but its all sorts of options like buying a used Mazda CX7 turbo manifold thats a bolt on
Great info Dalton! I'm about dive deep into doing an Ecoboost engine install into a 93 FD3S Mazda Rx7. I'm tired of the unreliability of the rotary. I'm in Maryland. Where are you located? Wanted to see if I could tap more into your knowledge of these engines.
I'm about an hour north of Pittsburgh. If you want you can message me on Facebook or join the Ecoboost swap Facebook page. Tons of guys with lots of good information in there.
Awesome video! I was recently given a new edge mustang with a 3.8 and this video has me thinking... lol I know I can get the engine bolted in with the same AJE K-member and your mounts but I need to research wiring for a new edge. Also wife hates manuals so maybe a 6r80 option or go SBF adapter and keep the 4r70w. IDK yet, lots to research.
Wiring is super simple, at least for the engine. There are a few kits that make it pretty much a stand alone system. Integrating your current dash board would be the hard part. AC is pretty easy too, just grab a compressor from an Ecoboost powered car.
so im dreaming of putting a 2.0 into an old pre-75 ranchero. Less for the power, and more for the fuel economy. think it would be a nice foundation for a daily. something i can putt around in and maintain high 20's to low 30's on the mpgs. enough torque for anything id put in the bed or pull a small trailer.
I will be trying the HPT MPVI3. Not sure if it will be able to tune just yet, but I have confirmed that it will communicate with the ECU and read data.
You're making a modernized Mustang SVO with that Foxbody there, I like it. I always wondered what kind of performance you could get out of a Foxbody with a Cosworth Engine out of the Sierra or Escort, but this is a lot more obtainable with that 2.0 Ecoboost
I've been thinking about doing a ecoboost 4 into my '74 maverick 2dr when they first came out, currently running a 289/T5. the weight savings, and power being close to the same, along with the newer tech should give better mpg without losing performance. Besides many issues preventing me from doing it (can't tear down my only car...), I've also had a hard time deciphering the new engines, to figure out which is best for reliability and performance. My 289 is at about 300hp/trq which I'd like to stay around.
That would be a tough call between the 2.0 and 2.3. I personally prefer the 2.0 as it's more cost effective. But the 2.3 would also be a very good choice for that power level.
Looking for advice, next year, we plan on an 84 Porsche 944 with the 2.3 and a corvette C6 trans/ torque tube and IRS. Any advise we can get would be greatly appreciated!
You will likely have to make a custom adapter plate for the Corvette torque tube setup. Depending on your power goals, it might be cheaper and more reliable to go with a 2.0 instead of the 2.3.
@stroupperformance9384 i just read up that the 2.0 block had more strength. I have the guy to make the adapter or even bell housing to accommodate. Hardest part is clearing work out to do it
@@clearchoice2112 Yeah the 2.3 has an open deck block vs the 2.0 closed deck block. I would recommend something like the garrett 2867 or 3071. 2867 will be good for 400-450whp with quicker spool (full boost by ~3000rpm). 3071 would be good for 450-500whp with a slightly slower spool (3200-3400rpm).
just a quick question. I assumed you delete the crank balancer to be able to use the rwd oil pan. The V8 SBF flywheel that you used its the 50oz inbalance one. ? Did you have clerance issues between the clutch plate and the bellhousing ? thanks
I did not delete the balance shaft assembly, it fits even with the mustang oil pan. You want a 0oz or balanced flywheel. The engine is internally balanced. I didn't have any issues with bell housing to flywheel clearance on my setup, but I've heard of others who have issues with that. You can take the crank adapter to a machine shop and have them take some material off to give you more room. This can also be done on a lathe if you have one.
@@stroupperformance9384what do you think about stacking two flywheel plates to make the space between the adapter and bellhousing ? what it could be a side effect of doing that ? I am about to test the starter tooth print this weekend, this is the first thing that come to my mind that would be a problem.
Yeah I missed that, 2.3 can be found in the bronco. The 2.0 can also be found in the bronco sport. It sounds like you want to put this into an offroad or crawler rig. In that case the LSPI would probably be a big issue.
JEM Sport also makes a swap solution for the 2.0 or the 2.3 EcoBoost. I went with them after speaking with Jake at JEM sport as the way they do their PATS delete allows for use of off the shelf Focus ST Tunes or for someone with an HP tuners to plug in and tune on the ecu, Where as ANT harness uses a can network to spoof the ecu into thinking it has PATS, and limits the tuning availability. I believe you can still tune gen 1 EcoBoost ECU's with the correct harness, but it seemed a little in the dark. I have the JEM sport ZF adapter to mount up a ZF. The ZF trans is much stronger than the Getrag, and is also quite light. I also liked how they use a shift rod that connects to the trans rather than directly on top, so I could alter the length of that rod and retain my factory shifter location with a chassis mounted shifter. This is all going into an NA miata, cant wait to get the engine harness in and fire it up!
I wish that JEM sport had the ECU available when I purchased my ANT steering ECU. I'd have to talk to them more, but I believe they are using something similar to Ford's 2.0 control pack to delete PATS. I'm glad to hear the ZF trans option is working for you though. Like I said in the video, I don't know a whole lot about them. But I have heard that they are pretty cheap used.
@@stroupperformance9384I’m still waiting on the harness, but the zf seems like a great option on paper because it’s super strong and quite light. The JEM sport harness is in fact based on a ford control pack ecu
I plan on 2.0 ecoboost swapping my 13’ focus with the mtx75 5 speed trans, do you know if I could bolt the ecoboost header, intake, etc up to my stock block? The intervals won’t be as strong, but I am wondering if my stock block is the same 2.0 na is the 2.0 ecoboost. Thanks for the video and have a good one!
I believe the N/A engines are a bit different. The head has 4 exhaust ports, the Ecoboost has the exhaust manifold integrated into the head and only has one exhaust port. You'd probably be best off buying a used Ecoboost engine and swapping that in. Look up Rebel Devil Customs, they do a bunch of N/A to Ecoboost swaps on the Focus.
Yes, you can add port injection to both engines. Stratified makes a intake manifold spacer that allows you to add a 4 port injectors. Personally, I just use DI intake valve cleaner spray made by CRC to keep the valves clean.
Just a quick video topic idea for you: Can you talk about the differences between the Gen 1 2.0 and Gen 2 2.0 engines? Are you seeing much in the way of price difference between the two?
That is a great idea, there is a lot of confusion between the two generations. I'm not sure about the price difference between the two, I don't look at Gen 2 engines because they have a weaker block.
@@stroupperformance9384 Yeah, I've been discovering this while doing my own research. I think you might be able to help a bunch of people with a discussion on this topic.
Yes, you can also use 2.3 internals in the 2.0 block. This way you get the best of both worlds, a strong closed deck block with an extra 0.3 liters of displacement, and a better flowing head.
What's wrong with the 6 speed manual mustang transmissions I think there the getrag mt82 or the tremec tr3160 will they not bolt up without the adapter??
Between the 2.3 & 2.0 what block would you say is better at high rpm? I’m looking to build a drift motor and don’t need more than 300 but looking to make around 250-300 so it’s more power than stock 3.8 v6
How easy is it to pull the torque out on the 2.3? I would like to maintain roughly the same fuel economy but id like to get around 400ft/lbs of torque. Is that unrealistic?
They are extremely torquey engines, especially with the stock turbo. The 2.3s stock turbo will spool fast enough to make a ton of torque down low. Just have to be careful to not make too much torque at low RPMs, the rods and pistons can't handle the added pressure.
Unfortunately the GT and Ecoboost Mustangs have different bellhousings for the MT82 they are not interchangeable. If you can find a MT82 from an Ecoboost mustang, that should bolt right up using all Ecoboost mustang flywheel and clutch parts. I am not sure how it will fit within the trans tunnel or where the shifter will be located though. You may have some fabrication work ahead of you if you go that route.
2.0 Eco Focus block and then the crank etc from the 2.3 Eco and the head from the Mondeo 2.0 Eco which still has a external manifold. Not this internal shit from Focus ST/RS :) This combo is the best haha.
@@stroupperformance9384 Possible. Mondeo had 2 Versions of the 2.0 Ecoboost. The one i mean is the 2.0 EcoBoost SCTi from the yea 10-14 and the Evoque had the Ecoboost from 11 so could be the same head yes :)
I don't know of anyone who makes mounts for the BRZ/FRS yet. Also the Ecoboost is a pretty tall engine, so I'm not sure how it would fit under the hood of one of those cars.
Do it! I've walked 3 or 4 people through the swap so far. We have had great success with the 2.0s. even in stock form they are pretty potent compared to other 4 cylinders.
That generation escape should have the duratec 2.3. They are very similar to the Ecoboost, so it should be an easy swap. I believe the engine mounts are almost identical
so i have a 2012 wrx and the motor just recently blew, i was wondering if it would be worth the effort to ecoboost swap the wrx, for cost effectiveness and easier power. does anyone know of a ecoboost swapped wrx?
An MT82 out of an Ecoboost mustang should bolt up to the 2.0. I don't know if this has been tested yet though. The bell housing bolt pattern is the same between the 2.0 and 2.3 though.
@@TheMotherTucker Yes, when you order you have to specify which ECU type you have and which harness you will be using. All of that information is on their Ebay store page.
TCET117765. You could also use TCET18084 or TCET18085. The only difference between the three are the gear ratios. I went with the 2.87/1 first gear and 0.68/1 fifth gear option.
Search LKQ for the model cars that were listed in the video. For example here are the results for engines from an Escape. 70 engines ranging from $600-900 depending on mileage. www.lkqonline.com/2016-ford-escape-engine-assembly/-hPOj4ncnnP
The 2.0 has a stronger block however make sure you have the spain block and not the ohio The ohio has a qr code barcode on the valve cover (Open deck) problematic Where as the spain block has a barcode style (Closed deck) what you want
All of the older style single scroll turbo engines are closed deck. The newer twin scroll turbo engines are open deck. But I agree the closed deck is the way to go!
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Your info is not 100% accurate. There is 2 different 2.0 , there is the 2.0 semi closed twin scroll, and 2.0 closed deck that comes off the focus ST. The best way to build a ecoboost is with a 2.0 ST block with a 2.3 head and 2.3 internals. People also use the 2.0 semi closed block. Basically anything besieged the 2.3 block. Some use cylinder support systems for the 2.3 but id say its a waste of money. 2.0/2.3 ecoboost can make lots of power. But the 2.3 stroker builds are the way to go.
That is what I said in the video. The list of engines are all the same as the "ST" engine. The twin scroll engines came in the later cars depending on year. The engine that I have in the car is a 2015 escape, which is the same as a Focus ST engine except for the oil cooler, which is a bolt on part. For a high power 2.3 stroker build I would only use the early closed deck 2.0 block. I don't have a lot of trust in the later twin scroll blocks.
@@stroupperformance9384 2.0 semi closed (ford fusion), and 2.0 closed deck (ST) are not the same. Every 2.0 block is different. Originally designed off the mazda 3 2.0 block which is almost identical to the ST block but also different.
Also weird that Ford calls the 2.7 and 3.5 V6s Ecoboosts in all of their advertising and documentation. Unless it's the hybrid, then they market it as a "Powerboost" V6.
They get a lot of hate because the newer engines are pretty unreliable. The older gen 2.0 Ecoboost is reliable and can hold much more power than the newer gen stuff.
I was thinking about running a 2.0 ecoboost in a 98 Ranger splash 5 speed. This is a great video! Thanks!
I know of a couple people who have put the 2.0 Ecoboost into rangers. It's an awesome swap!
@@stroupperformance9384 im wondering about doing just that. what other info can you lead me in. great video btw. thinking about this swap vs the v8 now.
@@mindtrick714 I would check out Jimmy Lunchmeat's channel. He has done a 2.0 ecoboost swap in his. I can't give much specific info on the ranger swap, as I have not done one. I can only give generic ecoboost swap help/advice.
@@mindtrick714if yours is a 2003+ with a Duratec 2.3 an eco 2.0/2.3 would be an easy swap since it will bolt directly into the existing mounts and transmission
@@young11984 this is only partially correct. You will need a custom passenger side engine mount and the firewall will need to be pushed back 6" or so to clear the high pressure fuel pump.
Just finishing up installing a 2.3 EcoBoost crate motor (from Ford) our full race 1970 FordCortina GT . Used a spun steel bellhousing from Quick Time mated to a T5/G-Force. Transmission and a Winters mini-quick change. Almost a straight forward install, transmission did not have to be moved, removed small section of firewall but due to. Ground clearance problems had to install a Mountune dry sump system. .Used the 2015-2017 wiring harness , had to bypass computer for the electric fuel pump and start system. Believe this is the only Cortina in the world with a 2.3 EcoBoost.
only Cortina MK2
That sounds like a sick build! Are you in the Ecoboost swap group on Facebook, I thought I saw a cortina in there recently.
Thanks for posting this is exactly the kind of video I was looking for, and thanks for giving me another excuse to go big turbo!
Would be interested in seeing how the engine and transmission mounts were done. I've thought about building a Pinto Restomod with the Mustang 2.3 Ecoboost, think such a build would be a mean ride.
The engine mounts were off the shelf parts. The trans mount is actually for a 5.0. check out my other video, I show what the mounts look like.
No way, I'm the biggest Ecoboost 2.0/2.3, so glad I found your channel after seeing you on ThatDudeinBlue. I'm gonna check all your stuff out later. I'd like to get an Ecoboost Mustang down the road and have also been thinking about Ecoboost swapping an earlier Mustang as well, I have an 02 drift car right now.
I wanna swap an ecoboost into a porsche 944 someday, imma have to remember this video
RWD motorsport also has a bell housing for a T5 (tremec or borg-warner) for a duratec.
Thanks for the video, a true pioneer!
Awesome! looking forward to more content.
These are easy to swap in 1st gen Mustangs. Straight 6s have the same bellhousing bolt pattern as SBF. Lots of room. Ecoboost swap gets more power, add power steering, power brakes (4 corner drum with 4 lug gone and new 5 lug disc front with 5 lug rear axle.) And Air conditioning components are available.
Use a 2.5 duratec block/closed deck also, 2.3 eco rotating assembly with 2.5 head eliminating the head a fold and DI for simplicity. Mustang, mazda miata, Ranger and Mazda b2300 transmission for bolt on transmission/ECUs. JS if you have access to multiple engine options to play with
The duratec block and head are good options. But you would need to buy or fabricate a turbo manifold for it which could get expensive. Also the manual transmissions they put behind those were pretty weak. I think the simplest way to complete the swap is to buy a used 2.0 Ecoboost. But you could definitely do a complete build with the duratec and have the 4 port head and longer stroke.
@@stroupperformance9384 the transmissions i mentions are bolt on but Esslinger has a SBF bolt pattern adapter than you could bolt anything for an older pushrod 5.0 to it and that opens up a world of options. Also the 6R80 can take a lot of abuse and its a factory auto option from the Mustang which is what i have behind my turbo 2.5. Turbo manifolds can be had from $120 to $500 or more if you want a tubular stainless one but its all sorts of options like buying a used Mazda CX7 turbo manifold thats a bolt on
Great info Dalton! I'm about dive deep into doing an Ecoboost engine install into a 93 FD3S Mazda Rx7. I'm tired of the unreliability of the rotary. I'm in Maryland. Where are you located? Wanted to see if I could tap more into your knowledge of these engines.
I'm about an hour north of Pittsburgh. If you want you can message me on Facebook or join the Ecoboost swap Facebook page. Tons of guys with lots of good information in there.
Because of you I am now going to do this to save money versus a 5.0 build in my 04 GT.
Awesome video! I was recently given a new edge mustang with a 3.8 and this video has me thinking... lol I know I can get the engine bolted in with the same AJE K-member and your mounts but I need to research wiring for a new edge. Also wife hates manuals so maybe a 6r80 option or go SBF adapter and keep the 4r70w. IDK yet, lots to research.
Oh and I need to figure out air conditioning, cant do no AC in my region. Too HOT lol
Wiring is super simple, at least for the engine. There are a few kits that make it pretty much a stand alone system. Integrating your current dash board would be the hard part. AC is pretty easy too, just grab a compressor from an Ecoboost powered car.
Good information. Just sitting here looking at what to put into a 61 Econoline
Ecoboost would be a cool swap, I have also seen quite a few with the older 2.3L turbo Limas.
so im dreaming of putting a 2.0 into an old pre-75 ranchero. Less for the power, and more for the fuel economy. think it would be a nice foundation for a daily. something i can putt around in and maintain high 20's to low 30's on the mpgs. enough torque for anything id put in the bed or pull a small trailer.
Miata transmissions are also a great option for manual transmissions.
Also, what tuner did you use with the ANT ECM setup?
I will be trying the HPT MPVI3. Not sure if it will be able to tune just yet, but I have confirmed that it will communicate with the ECU and read data.
You're making a modernized Mustang SVO with that Foxbody there, I like it. I always wondered what kind of performance you could get out of a Foxbody with a Cosworth Engine out of the Sierra or Escort, but this is a lot more obtainable with that 2.0 Ecoboost
So an LS swap is way cheaper after having to buy thousands of dollars of extra parts for the ecoboost 2.0? LS with a lumpy cam sounds way better!
great work with the set of videos ! Thanks for sharing.
I've been thinking about doing a ecoboost 4 into my '74 maverick 2dr when they first came out, currently running a 289/T5. the weight savings, and power being close to the same, along with the newer tech should give better mpg without losing performance. Besides many issues preventing me from doing it (can't tear down my only car...), I've also had a hard time deciphering the new engines, to figure out which is best for reliability and performance. My 289 is at about 300hp/trq which I'd like to stay around.
That would be a tough call between the 2.0 and 2.3. I personally prefer the 2.0 as it's more cost effective. But the 2.3 would also be a very good choice for that power level.
Shouldn't the factory 6 speed manual that comes in the 2.3L Mustang be a good candidate especially if it's still attached?
Yes, the MT82 is another option.
Always wondered how a E/B 2.0/2.3 in an AC Cobra kit, instead of the 427.😂
You would make a lot of people upset. But I'm all about it! I really want to do one in a GT40 kit car.
@@stroupperformance9384 I wonder if it would have better cornering. I do agree I would miss the V8 rumble.
Looking for advice, next year, we plan on an 84 Porsche 944 with the 2.3 and a corvette C6 trans/ torque tube and IRS. Any advise we can get would be greatly appreciated!
You will likely have to make a custom adapter plate for the Corvette torque tube setup. Depending on your power goals, it might be cheaper and more reliable to go with a 2.0 instead of the 2.3.
@stroupperformance9384 i just read up that the 2.0 block had more strength. I have the guy to make the adapter or even bell housing to accommodate. Hardest part is clearing work out to do it
@stroupperformance9384 water jackets are the issue right? What turbo would you recommend for the 2.0
@@clearchoice2112 Yeah the 2.3 has an open deck block vs the 2.0 closed deck block. I would recommend something like the garrett 2867 or 3071.
2867 will be good for 400-450whp with quicker spool (full boost by ~3000rpm).
3071 would be good for 450-500whp with a slightly slower spool (3200-3400rpm).
The 3.5 would be killer in a tbird TC/SC
just a quick question. I assumed you delete the crank balancer to be able to use the rwd oil pan.
The V8 SBF flywheel that you used its the 50oz inbalance one. ?
Did you have clerance issues between the clutch plate and the bellhousing ? thanks
I did not delete the balance shaft assembly, it fits even with the mustang oil pan.
You want a 0oz or balanced flywheel. The engine is internally balanced.
I didn't have any issues with bell housing to flywheel clearance on my setup, but I've heard of others who have issues with that. You can take the crank adapter to a machine shop and have them take some material off to give you more room. This can also be done on a lathe if you have one.
@@stroupperformance9384what do you think about stacking two flywheel plates to make the space between the adapter and bellhousing ? what it could be a side effect of doing that ? I am about to test the starter tooth print this weekend, this is the first thing that come to my mind that would be a problem.
@@JoseGutierrez-ur9uu I have heard of people doing that with some success.
Im looking to put a 2.0 in my 1996 mustang gt.
That should be a really straight forward swap. That will be the same chassis as my Foxbody. Good luck man!
The 2.3 L mustangs run a 355 gear set
Isn’t the 2.3 also in broncos? QuickDraw makes a bell housing to Jeep trans… but the LSPI is a concern
Yeah I missed that, 2.3 can be found in the bronco. The 2.0 can also be found in the bronco sport.
It sounds like you want to put this into an offroad or crawler rig. In that case the LSPI would probably be a big issue.
2.3L ranger.
JEM Sport also makes a swap solution for the 2.0 or the 2.3 EcoBoost. I went with them after speaking with Jake at JEM sport as the way they do their PATS delete allows for use of off the shelf Focus ST Tunes or for someone with an HP tuners to plug in and tune on the ecu, Where as ANT harness uses a can network to spoof the ecu into thinking it has PATS, and limits the tuning availability. I believe you can still tune gen 1 EcoBoost ECU's with the correct harness, but it seemed a little in the dark. I have the JEM sport ZF adapter to mount up a ZF. The ZF trans is much stronger than the Getrag, and is also quite light. I also liked how they use a shift rod that connects to the trans rather than directly on top, so I could alter the length of that rod and retain my factory shifter location with a chassis mounted shifter. This is all going into an NA miata, cant wait to get the engine harness in and fire it up!
I wish that JEM sport had the ECU available when I purchased my ANT steering ECU. I'd have to talk to them more, but I believe they are using something similar to Ford's 2.0 control pack to delete PATS.
I'm glad to hear the ZF trans option is working for you though. Like I said in the video, I don't know a whole lot about them. But I have heard that they are pretty cheap used.
@@stroupperformance9384I’m still waiting on the harness, but the zf seems like a great option on paper because it’s super strong and quite light.
The JEM sport harness is in fact based on a ford control pack ecu
I plan on 2.0 ecoboost swapping my 13’ focus with the mtx75 5 speed trans, do you know if I could bolt the ecoboost header, intake, etc up to my stock block? The intervals won’t be as strong, but I am wondering if my stock block is the same 2.0 na is the 2.0 ecoboost. Thanks for the video and have a good one!
I believe the N/A engines are a bit different. The head has 4 exhaust ports, the Ecoboost has the exhaust manifold integrated into the head and only has one exhaust port. You'd probably be best off buying a used Ecoboost engine and swapping that in. Look up Rebel Devil Customs, they do a bunch of N/A to Ecoboost swaps on the Focus.
No what about the DI and the carbon build up.
Does the 2.0 or 2.3 have a way to add port injection to clean the backside of the valves.
Yes, you can add port injection to both engines. Stratified makes a intake manifold spacer that allows you to add a 4 port injectors.
Personally, I just use DI intake valve cleaner spray made by CRC to keep the valves clean.
Just a quick video topic idea for you: Can you talk about the differences between the Gen 1 2.0 and Gen 2 2.0 engines? Are you seeing much in the way of price difference between the two?
That is a great idea, there is a lot of confusion between the two generations. I'm not sure about the price difference between the two, I don't look at Gen 2 engines because they have a weaker block.
@@stroupperformance9384 Yeah, I've been discovering this while doing my own research. I think you might be able to help a bunch of people with a discussion on this topic.
I’m under the impression the 2002 up ranger 2.3 trans bolts up also.
I believe that it does. Same with some of the Mazda trans from the same era.
@@stroupperformance9384 the 6 speed from the last gen Miata’s fits. Not sure they made an ‘02+ b2300, if they did it’s super rare.
If you can bolt all the 2.3 stuff onto the head to do the swap, can't you use a 2.3 head on a 2.0 block? 🤔
Yes, you can also use 2.3 internals in the 2.0 block. This way you get the best of both worlds, a strong closed deck block with an extra 0.3 liters of displacement, and a better flowing head.
Has anyone put this engine in a 86-92 Mazda b2200? In stock form I think that would be a blast to drive.
I have seen a couple different generations of Ford Rangers with Ecoboost swaps. I'm not sure if anyone has done a Mazda truck yet.
the3.5 litre ecoboost engines have actual exhaust manifolds, only one without the "headifold"
He was referring to 4 cylinder only.
Not messing with my 5.0 notch, but gotta admit, I would ....love... to find a clean, 2 dr Fairmont, and do this swap + 5sp. !! Lol
I am really considering a Fairmont as the next project. They are so cheap even for the super clean cars!
Thanks for this video
So much good info thanks.
What's wrong with the 6 speed manual mustang transmissions I think there the getrag mt82 or the tremec tr3160 will they not bolt up without the adapter??
The MT82 may work with the 2.0. I know it works with the 2.3.
So we should be using gen 1 engines? Which blocks are open deck and which ones are closed?
Yeah use the Gen 1 engines. They are closed deck. The newer engines are all open deck.
Between the 2.3 & 2.0 what block would you say is better at high rpm? I’m looking to build a drift motor and don’t need more than 300 but looking to make around 250-300 so it’s more power than stock 3.8 v6
Neither engine is better at high RPM. But for that power goal, I would suggest the 2.0. you can get pretty close to 300whp with the stock turbo.
Can you swap the turbo off a 2.0 or 2.3 into a naturally aspirated Fusion’s 2.5?
No, the turbos on the 2.0/2.3 are both designed to fit their respective headifold. They won't work with the earlier 4 port exhaust duratec engines.
What about the head gasket issues 2014-2020?
That's not an issue on the first gen engines listed in this video. Only the newer open deck blocks have head gasket issues.
Was thinking about doing this in an OBS but no clue how to make that happen
Obs f-series? Ranger?
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How easy is it to pull the torque out on the 2.3? I would like to maintain roughly the same fuel economy but id like to get around 400ft/lbs of torque. Is that unrealistic?
They are extremely torquey engines, especially with the stock turbo. The 2.3s stock turbo will spool fast enough to make a ton of torque down low. Just have to be careful to not make too much torque at low RPMs, the rods and pistons can't handle the added pressure.
So I just picked up a 92 Hatch Foxbody. I also have a 2017 GT and I have a spare MT82 laying around, will that bolt up to a 2.0?
Unfortunately the GT and Ecoboost Mustangs have different bellhousings for the MT82 they are not interchangeable. If you can find a MT82 from an Ecoboost mustang, that should bolt right up using all Ecoboost mustang flywheel and clutch parts.
I am not sure how it will fit within the trans tunnel or where the shifter will be located though. You may have some fabrication work ahead of you if you go that route.
2.0 Eco Focus block and then the crank etc from the 2.3 Eco and the head from the Mondeo 2.0 Eco which still has a external manifold. Not this internal shit from Focus ST/RS :)
This combo is the best haha.
The Range Rover Evoque I believe also used that same head.
@@stroupperformance9384 Possible. Mondeo had 2 Versions of the 2.0 Ecoboost. The one i mean is the 2.0 EcoBoost SCTi from the yea 10-14 and the Evoque had the Ecoboost from 11 so could be the same head yes :)
Worth in BRZ or skip and do more tested k24?
I don't know of anyone who makes mounts for the BRZ/FRS yet. Also the Ecoboost is a pretty tall engine, so I'm not sure how it would fit under the hood of one of those cars.
here i am watching this with a tired high miles 2.5 lol figure if i need to swap the engine why not go for more power..
Do it! I've walked 3 or 4 people through the swap so far. We have had great success with the 2.0s. even in stock form they are pretty potent compared to other 4 cylinders.
Could I put one into my 2005 ford escape 2.3
That generation escape should have the duratec 2.3. They are very similar to the Ecoboost, so it should be an easy swap. I believe the engine mounts are almost identical
@@stroupperformance9384 really if you have any tips please send them my way
so i have a 2012 wrx and the motor just recently blew, i was wondering if it would be worth the effort to ecoboost swap the wrx, for cost effectiveness and easier power. does anyone know of a ecoboost swapped wrx?
Factory 5 racing makes an adapter. They use an ecoboost and subaru trans in their kit cars.
Thank you for the input, I did not know that adapter existed. Might be tough in the Subaru though, Ecoboost engines are MUCH taller than the boxers.
Subaru transmissions are also super far forward, so the length of the 2.0 or 2.3 compared to an ej/FA will be an issue
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A few guys did k24 swaps on Subarus they just take the hood off
How can I order a set of your motor mounts?
Email me at StroupPerformance@gmail.com and we can get it worked out. I'm still working on setting up a website.
man im looking at getting a 93 mustang. and its got the 2.3L
Ecoboost swap it!
@@stroupperformance9384 im thinking my 86 svo 2.3 turbo be nice or my 96 4.9L 300 inline 6. im not familur with these newer ecoboosts
Thanks g
Can you run an auto trans with the esslinger adapter?
Technically you should be able to run anything that would bolt up to a small block ford. I don't see why an auto trans wouldn't work.
Do you know if an mt82 will bolt up to a 2.0?
An MT82 out of an Ecoboost mustang should bolt up to the 2.0. I don't know if this has been tested yet though. The bell housing bolt pattern is the same between the 2.0 and 2.3 though.
@@stroupperformance9384 Thanks for the response and sorry about the delay. Do you know if the ANT kit is plug and play?
@@TheMotherTucker Yes, when you order you have to specify which ECU type you have and which harness you will be using. All of that information is on their Ebay store page.
what tkx did you run theres 6 different ones
TCET117765. You could also use TCET18084 or TCET18085. The only difference between the three are the gear ratios. I went with the 2.87/1 first gear and 0.68/1 fifth gear option.
I’m in Michigan want to do one for me?
I'm always down to help out! Check out JEMsport too, they are in Jackson, MI.
I wanna 2.o
swap my 98 ranger!
Do it!
Very cool
Where do I find a 2.0 for under a grand?
Search LKQ for the model cars that were listed in the video. For example here are the results for engines from an Escape. 70 engines ranging from $600-900 depending on mileage.
www.lkqonline.com/2016-ford-escape-engine-assembly/-hPOj4ncnnP
Fuck lkq
The 2.0 has a stronger block however make sure you have the spain block and not the ohio
The ohio has a qr code barcode on the valve cover
(Open deck) problematic
Where as the spain block has a barcode style
(Closed deck) what you want
All of the older style single scroll turbo engines are closed deck. The newer twin scroll turbo engines are open deck. But I agree the closed deck is the way to go!
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the 2.3 computer can run a 2.0, for what its worth.
I was not aware of that. Thank you for information!
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Your info is not 100% accurate. There is 2 different 2.0 , there is the 2.0 semi closed twin scroll, and 2.0 closed deck that comes off the focus ST.
The best way to build a ecoboost is with a 2.0 ST block with a 2.3 head and 2.3 internals.
People also use the 2.0 semi closed block. Basically anything besieged the 2.3 block. Some use cylinder support systems for the 2.3 but id say its a waste of money. 2.0/2.3 ecoboost can make lots of power. But the 2.3 stroker builds are the way to go.
That is what I said in the video. The list of engines are all the same as the "ST" engine. The twin scroll engines came in the later cars depending on year. The engine that I have in the car is a 2015 escape, which is the same as a Focus ST engine except for the oil cooler, which is a bolt on part.
For a high power 2.3 stroker build I would only use the early closed deck 2.0 block. I don't have a lot of trust in the later twin scroll blocks.
@@stroupperformance9384 2.0 semi closed (ford fusion), and 2.0 closed deck (ST) are not the same. Every 2.0 block is different. Originally designed off the mazda 3 2.0 block which is almost identical to the ST block but also different.
@@stroupperformance9384 also the 2.0 ST block and 2.0 fusion block have different mounting points. And the v6 is not an ecoboost.
That is interesting. Ford's part system says that the 2013-2016 Fusion and 2013-2018 Focus ST have the same block with the same exact part number.
Also weird that Ford calls the 2.7 and 3.5 V6s Ecoboosts in all of their advertising and documentation. Unless it's the hybrid, then they market it as a "Powerboost" V6.
Engine, not motor
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Aren't all ecoboost engines trash?
They get a lot of hate because the newer engines are pretty unreliable. The older gen 2.0 Ecoboost is reliable and can hold much more power than the newer gen stuff.
EcoBoost engines are crap 💩 at best 😅