Yes yes yes. I love mATX, I think it's the perfect balance between size and function. Also it's not as expensive as ITX builds and often cheaper than ATX builds.
With graphics cards being as big as they are today, now we just need motherboard manufacturers to swap the primary slot down to the bottom slot so you don't immediately give up all the other slots. That would be no worse latency wise than the ITX riser cable / card that so many cases use, and honestly if you're going to block all the slots anyway you wouldn't really lose anything by going with an ITX board.
@diomedes7971 because of the vending machine style casing and rotated Mobo they end up looking more cramped than normal cases. I have a tower 100 and have seen plenty of pics of air cooled tower 200. Is this case a little bigger, yes. But overall it's still the same look and feel as the 100 and 200.
Air cooled is a thing of the past. I gladly left that era of computers behind. I had enough terrible experiences with air cooling. Water cooling is the way.
Their tower 200 and Tower 100 are both made for itx builds, but they are a bit big for itx cases. I have the 200 and I'm pretty sure it's bigger than a micro ATX build I used to have. But the use of vertical space gives it a smaller desk footprint so it doesn't bother me
@@SidVirtuous tower 200 actually supports some smaller matx board, it's strange that they don't advertise it as such but includes the needed standoffs in the case
@@dandyND they probably don't advertise it because it's a bit of a tight squeeze to fit the cables between the motherboard and the cutouts. I almost went with a micro ATX motherboard for my build but I think I'm glad I didn't. It probably would've been alright but I hate when things fit awkwardly in my case. Maybe I'll try that when I inevitably switch to am5 socket
@@SidVirtuous I think that's probably why, and the fact that it doesn't support all matx sizes maybe confusing for their target customers who are more mainstream than sff enthusiasts who are more used to cases having weird compatibility with different sizes components
I wasn’t too interested in the tower 200 because it looked like a stretched out tower 100. This on the other hand has a very unique design to it. I’m interested to see if it would even fit on my desk horizontally. It looks like something from Outer space And I’m all for it.
love this case. im gonna be updating my build around March and this new Tower 300 has me sold. It's exactly what im looking for....a small form factor case that can fit a 4090 + 360mm AIO and also has a built in screen that can show temps. Perfection.
Man, I really like that... This is like PERFECT for what I would want. Compact still. This just might be the case for my next system in a year or two, but namely due to the size and vertical factor for my desk space. There are so many good cases out these days, Dev's are doing well... But I was waiting for something like this. They did well, though I'm a little concerned about the Cable management for the back of the motherboard etc. and I would need a Motherboard with Wi-Fi.
I was going to go for the nr200p v2 but after seeing this it seems like such a waste to not be able to see most of your build. This makes it look like an aquarium lol.
Blocking off all the IO ports and them being INSIDE the case seems like one heck of a design flaw. And if you have a lot of USB devices/displays, then all those cables will start to mess with airflow around the top fan too....
YOU WIN! I dislike this clunky feature as well. I'm often connecting/disconnecting something or other in the rear of my PC. Daily use of this case would make my inner Hulk emerge…quite often👹🤯.
I have the tower 200. These things come with tons of options to route your cables around the fans to the point where youd actually have to go out of your way to block off the fans. Also, with the way the case is orientated, blocking off the I/O ports make it look much cleaner on top, even though I wouldn't mind having all the cables flowing out from the top but I think this looks better for most people. Edit: just to clarify, I know there are differences between the tower 200 and 300, but I think the same logic applies.
exactly what im saying. Though airflow wouldnt be inhibited that much. So i have a wired headphones, mic, keyboard, controller, and a wireless mouse. Also the speaker cable. Cant put the mouse dongle inside the faraday cage. Big ol knot coming out of it.
I like the look of this, especially fitting a 420mm rad in something this small. But, it means I'll have to do extra research about which graphics card I use in relation to the issue with reduced heat pipe effectiveness that can be seen in some models, when the IO is at the top.
AS someone who has space issues in my room and desk. Really love how compact this case is. If it is ever in Europe I am instantly buying one (can't seem to find it yet).
Hey that's suprisingly nice! I hope we get an ATX version with the option to lay it flat as well. Sounds weird I know, but it kind of gives me an escape pod or space ship vibe which I really dig.
True true. I hope they keep the design of this front and grow the Tower series, as this seems to be a refreshing visual choice, that many people appreciate. -D.
@@HardwareCanucks Glad to see that great minds think alike. I'd probably get rid of my Torrent for an ATX version of that case in white. Main problem is price point tho since I won't spend more than maybe 250€ for a case at the very most.
Is it small? No. But it takes advantage of the vertical space that a lot of people have on their desk. I quiet like the case, maybe a good option if I upgrade from my 011 mini.
Thermaltake actually killd-it with this model, because the cubic design in this format ... really works: its not that big as older bigger brothers -models- of this case, aim to the micro-atx market which its a nice price target, and the side panels are easy to work... looks really good too..sideways
i'm really loving this year mATX case offering, i just got the 2500X and it's oh so easy to work with compared to my previous NR200 and it still got ample of room for my SSDs and HDDs without being as big as a traditional midsize case
I like this a lot. I have an Arctic LF II 420 AIO in my current case, but I want to downsize to something more space efficient.This would be a nice option for me.
@woofkaf7724 All relative. Need to see the dimensions of this, but the width and depth of the 200 is basically half of my current case. I don't care really about the height.
7:09 it's nice to see that there are more colour variations for these kind of 'experimental' cases to really show off your build. Bit of a shame that I am missing Red.... Kinda SUS
Beautiful and very smart ! The only "little" thing in this case is the motherboard; huge graphic card, huge cpu tower fan cooler or aio, and long psu. Perfect design. Another great solution imho, a real vertical graphic card (without riser cable) to avoid sagging !
This case looks awesome! I love the different ways to stand the case and that TT supports all of them out of the box. The angled TG and overall symmetry of the whole case, especially on the angled stand for horizontal setup, is extremely satisfying to my OCD. LOVE the variety of colors, even though the blue is not a very solid blue despite the yellow and green variants being very vibrant. Less screws = moar good. It's looks to be as user friendly mechanically as it's design is visually appealing. If I were to do a mATX build, this would 100% be my case choice.
Awesome I exclusively want Matx computers and l've been looking at a lot of cases for a new PC build coming in the near future. So I'm glad I din't jump the gun on another case. This might be the one I've been waiting for!
I LOVE it!, i'm still running my Thermaltake P5, but i want this for a 2nd PC I have in my living room where horizontal space is at a premium in my appartment.
This one looks super cool, I wonder if it would support a full custom hardline loop with separate pump/res in a horizontal layout. I’m new to liquid cooling but I really enjoy it
My dad is giving me his spare 4090. I already have a prebuilt iBUYPOWER with a 3080. I plan to re use parts of. Have a MSI Z690-a pro, I7 12900, 32gb ram, AIO(iBUYPOWER), 1tb ssd M.2. I plan to just get a new power supply since I think it is going out(RGB on fans arent working properly), a new case, and new fans. Would love to keep the footprint small with a micro ATX case, but this case looks pretty nice! Id keep it upright for sure. After I build the new comp I can sell my Asus Rog 3080 and get some money back. Its barely had a year usage and I just play Rust.
Could you use the optional legs to secure the case to a wall, instead of sitting horizontally on a desk? Hard to tell if they are fastened properly to the case and sturdy enough for that application
mATX becoming more popular is due to ATX boards getting expensive as well as the brand new GPUs. If you're going to cut a corner in your build, it's the motherboard first, ram 2nd.
I have kept my eye on the Tower 100, and 200. But when choosing a case, it just never quite fit the bill. A bit too large for an ITX setup, and that was the only option for it. The fact that it expanded just a bit to allow mATX support (which was probably needed just to offer support to all 4 slot GPU's), it is now on my list of cases to buy and try. In the last 10 systems that I have built, 8 of them ar mATX, 1 ATX and one ITX. mATX I feel is often overlooked, and compromises need to be made in order to use in some enclosures. I think that we will see more cases for mATX simply due to the GPU sizes and want to support them. Many traditional layout ITX cases I expect to start expanding to mATX support (at least on paper). I feel that this case still has just a little too much unused space, but the airflow and radiator support I think can offset that just a bit. edit: looking at marketing material and static images, can fans/radiators be mounted on the GPU's side panel? If not, then I think this is a huge miss and write off on the case for anything but an aircooled GPU configuration. Sigh, I got my hopes up too early, which was the same way that I felt about Tower 200.
It seems that in the vertical orientation, the power/reset switches and USB outlets at the top would be better placed where the optional LCD screen is located.
Really like it... Should be ITX, though... That would probably take a cpu+GPU on watercooling with that 420... Which I would love to keep GPU fan noise down and temp cool...
Imagine if this case was fully aluminium :O Wish they had the option for a classic metallic silver or champagne color as well! I'm not into those they offer, so I'll probably end up choosing black.
maaaaan I got the previous version from my wedding registry a year and a half ago and I'm trying really hard not to just buy this one 😭 I love this style and can't wait to see it on sale one day
This case really does look interesting. Amazing all fan mount points take 140mm fans. A few questions: 1) the specs says you can mount two fans in the rear, which seem to put them under the motherboard? --- are the rear fans effectiveness restricted?; 2) how does the cables from motherboard and GPU route? can't tell how big the cut outs are to cables out of the case or how clean that would look.
is there a list of what motherboard was used and other pc parts if one wanted to copy or gain insight on what would fit best for this case? I plan on getting this when the green comes out.
What I like most about this case is ,you can lay it down on its side. BUT What Will Be The Final Cost having the case laying down and will a 360 fit with tubes down like they should be. I would like to see the I/O Cab be relocated to the bottom middle.
Yes yes yes. I love mATX, I think it's the perfect balance between size and function. Also it's not as expensive as ITX builds and often cheaper than ATX builds.
it's a good day when Chris Pratt uploads.
It's perfect. Replace the plastic parts with metal and a bigger screen, and it would be awesome.
I have loved the Tower series cases. Only thing I would do to improve them is move the USB/power button to the bottom front.
With graphics cards being as big as they are today, now we just need motherboard manufacturers to swap the primary slot down to the bottom slot so you don't immediately give up all the other slots. That would be no worse latency wise than the ITX riser cable / card that so many cases use, and honestly if you're going to block all the slots anyway you wouldn't really lose anything by going with an ITX board.
Would love to see a Transformers themed build where the GPU has a Autobots insignia, and the case is dressed up to look like an action figure box.
@jpmodified is a case modder sponsored by thermaltake hopefully he can make it
i believe someone did this with a barbie theme!
Am I the only one who wants to see an air-cooled build as well? Would be nice at least to visualize.
air-coolers make these types of cases look very cramped.
From the standpoint of optimizing the positive/negative case pressure - absolutely!
@diomedes7971 because of the vending machine style casing and rotated Mobo they end up looking more cramped than normal cases. I have a tower 100 and have seen plenty of pics of air cooled tower 200. Is this case a little bigger, yes. But overall it's still the same look and feel as the 100 and 200.
Air cooled is a thing of the past. I gladly left that era of computers behind. I had enough terrible experiences with air cooling. Water cooling is the way.
JUST TAKE THE L @@Ders_Island
I hope they come out with a mini itx version of this. Would look sweet. This doesn't really scream "Micro" anything considering it holds a 420mm AIO 🤣
Their tower 200 and Tower 100 are both made for itx builds, but they are a bit big for itx cases. I have the 200 and I'm pretty sure it's bigger than a micro ATX build I used to have. But the use of vertical space gives it a smaller desk footprint so it doesn't bother me
Nothing wrong with using a 420 with a mini or micro build.
@@SidVirtuous tower 200 actually supports some smaller matx board, it's strange that they don't advertise it as such but includes the needed standoffs in the case
@@dandyND they probably don't advertise it because it's a bit of a tight squeeze to fit the cables between the motherboard and the cutouts. I almost went with a micro ATX motherboard for my build but I think I'm glad I didn't. It probably would've been alright but I hate when things fit awkwardly in my case. Maybe I'll try that when I inevitably switch to am5 socket
@@SidVirtuous I think that's probably why, and the fact that it doesn't support all matx sizes maybe confusing for their target customers who are more mainstream than sff enthusiasts who are more used to cases having weird compatibility with different sizes components
I wasn’t too interested in the tower 200 because it looked like a stretched out tower 100. This on the other hand has a very unique design to it. I’m interested to see if it would even fit on my desk horizontally. It looks like something from Outer space And I’m all for it.
i have tower 100 and i love it with a 5800x3d and a 4070ti, only problem are the temps but its ok
love this case. im gonna be updating my build around March and this new Tower 300 has me sold. It's exactly what im looking for....a small form factor case that can fit a 4090 + 360mm AIO and also has a built in screen that can show temps. Perfection.
Same kind moving all my hard drives to a NAS do I want to get a smaller case. So this one has me interested.
Man, I really like that... This is like PERFECT for what I would want. Compact still. This just might be the case for my next system in a year or two, but namely due to the size and vertical factor for my desk space. There are so many good cases out these days, Dev's are doing well... But I was waiting for something like this. They did well, though I'm a little concerned about the Cable management for the back of the motherboard etc. and I would need a Motherboard with Wi-Fi.
I was going to go for the nr200p v2 but after seeing this it seems like such a waste to not be able to see most of your build. This makes it look like an aquarium lol.
Blocking off all the IO ports and them being INSIDE the case seems like one heck of a design flaw.
And if you have a lot of USB devices/displays, then all those cables will start to mess with airflow around the top fan too....
YOU WIN! I dislike this clunky feature as well. I'm often connecting/disconnecting something or other in the rear of my PC. Daily use of this case would make my inner Hulk emerge…quite often👹🤯.
I have the tower 200. These things come with tons of options to route your cables around the fans to the point where youd actually have to go out of your way to block off the fans. Also, with the way the case is orientated, blocking off the I/O ports make it look much cleaner on top, even though I wouldn't mind having all the cables flowing out from the top but I think this looks better for most people.
Edit: just to clarify, I know there are differences between the tower 200 and 300, but I think the same logic applies.
exactly what im saying. Though airflow wouldnt be inhibited that much. So i have a wired headphones, mic, keyboard, controller, and a wireless mouse. Also the speaker cable. Cant put the mouse dongle inside the faraday cage. Big ol knot coming out of it.
Maybe desk mounted hub as a solution?
Agreed. Im all about esthetics, but they cannot get in the way of function.
I have the tower 100 and would consider this for my next build.
I like the look of this, especially fitting a 420mm rad in something this small. But, it means I'll have to do extra research about which graphics card I use in relation to the issue with reduced heat pipe effectiveness that can be seen in some models, when the IO is at the top.
These oversized cases make me want to take out the glass side panels and replace it with a mounted portable monitor to make it an AIO system.
Wish that the stand that mounts it diagonally was the same color as the case
The horizontal presentation will be perfect for my office which is being made to look like a shuttle pod and it can be the warp core!
AS someone who has space issues in my room and desk. Really love how compact this case is. If it is ever in Europe I am instantly buying one (can't seem to find it yet).
When I saw the case laid down, I immediately saw an Apex Legends supply bin. Someone's gotta do it now.
I like the looks of this case with the horizontal placement.... Would like to see a costom loop inside of it.
I love this case! Your videos are always so detailed and you explain everything so well. Thanks guys!
Rear cabling looks like a PITA if you want to use a large air cooler.
Pre ordered mine can’t wait for it to get here
I'm just glad it actually has good ventilation unlike the older tower models.
Thermaltake needs to make that front "TT" logo rotatable ( a la the OG ps2 ) for horizontal mode placement to make more sense
Hey that's suprisingly nice! I hope we get an ATX version with the option to lay it flat as well. Sounds weird I know, but it kind of gives me an escape pod or space ship vibe which I really dig.
True true. I hope they keep the design of this front and grow the Tower series, as this seems to be a refreshing visual choice, that many people appreciate.
-D.
@@HardwareCanucks Glad to see that great minds think alike. I'd probably get rid of my Torrent for an ATX version of that case in white. Main problem is price point tho since I won't spend more than maybe 250€ for a case at the very most.
I'm glad someone build case for me. Now I don't have to go to CNC custom case, since I don't have enough desktop space.
Is it small? No. But it takes advantage of the vertical space that a lot of people have on their desk. I quiet like the case, maybe a good option if I upgrade from my 011 mini.
Thermaltake actually killd-it with this model, because the cubic design in this format ... really works: its not that big as older bigger brothers -models- of this case, aim to the micro-atx market which its a nice price target, and the side panels are easy to work... looks really good too..sideways
i like it. kinda no compromise matx with massive rad and 400mm gpu support.
The Tower 200 is also a MicroATX case, but Thermaltake has it labeled as a ITX only.
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If I had a mATX board I would totally get this case. Love the vertical look and would look nice on the corner of the desk.
I can't wait for it to release.
Had me till the internal rear i/o
i'm really loving this year mATX case offering, i just got the 2500X and it's oh so easy to work with compared to my previous NR200 and it still got ample of room for my SSDs and HDDs without being as big as a traditional midsize case
I like this a lot. I have an Arctic LF II 420 AIO in my current case, but I want to downsize to something more space efficient.This would be a nice option for me.
tower series is not space efficient
@woofkaf7724 All relative. Need to see the dimensions of this, but the width and depth of the 200 is basically half of my current case. I don't care really about the height.
This looks really cool especially laying on its side. It reminds me of a little biosphere
Finally! I have a reason to upgrade!
7:09 it's nice to see that there are more colour variations for these kind of 'experimental' cases to really show off your build. Bit of a shame that I am missing Red....
Kinda SUS
Beautiful and very smart ! The only "little" thing in this case is the motherboard; huge graphic card, huge cpu tower fan cooler or aio, and long psu. Perfect design. Another great solution imho, a real vertical graphic card (without riser cable) to avoid sagging !
love it, showing how you build a PC with the case that is being reviewed itself
This case looks awesome! I love the different ways to stand the case and that TT supports all of them out of the box. The angled TG and overall symmetry of the whole case, especially on the angled stand for horizontal setup, is extremely satisfying to my OCD. LOVE the variety of colors, even though the blue is not a very solid blue despite the yellow and green variants being very vibrant. Less screws = moar good. It's looks to be as user friendly mechanically as it's design is visually appealing. If I were to do a mATX build, this would 100% be my case choice.
Awesome I exclusively want Matx computers and l've been looking at a lot of cases for a new PC build coming in the near future. So I'm glad I din't jump the gun on another case. This might be the one I've been waiting for!
6:12 I like that, acres of real-estate if you keep it up top to show off, which you should be doing anyway.
The IO panel location is a solid deal breaker. Neat other than that.
horizontal casemod mounted on a wall and you have something really nice imo
I really need to convince them to start sending me stuff to build. These tower cases have all been very very good.
I see the quality build is improving with Thermaltake, I'm quiet impressed.
I LOVE it!, i'm still running my Thermaltake P5, but i want this for a 2nd PC I have in my living room where horizontal space is at a premium in my appartment.
I wished this was the same size as the Tower 200. It looks so good and a lot better.
This one looks super cool, I wonder if it would support a full custom hardline loop with separate pump/res in a horizontal layout. I’m new to liquid cooling but I really enjoy it
My dad is giving me his spare 4090. I already have a prebuilt iBUYPOWER with a 3080. I plan to re use parts of. Have a MSI Z690-a pro, I7 12900, 32gb ram, AIO(iBUYPOWER), 1tb ssd M.2. I plan to just get a new power supply since I think it is going out(RGB on fans arent working properly), a new case, and new fans. Would love to keep the footprint small with a micro ATX case, but this case looks pretty nice! Id keep it upright for sure. After I build the new comp I can sell my Asus Rog 3080 and get some money back. Its barely had a year usage and I just play Rust.
Might be time for a younger brother to be introduced to my classic
Thermaltake Level 10 GT SNOW
Finally an mATX. Is it perfect? No, but there's options!
I don't usually like mATX cases but this one looks pretty slick!
Looks like the new design came from design improvements and then naturally took this shape in order to keep the improvements
I've been in IT for a long time and always wanted to get my DIY with a Threadripper. Finally a case that I want!!!
I have this case in green for my second PC. Love it!
It looks nice but also hard if you want to connect something for the back I\O. I'll give it a 6\10 for practicality
Damn, this case is beautiful. Really restraining myself on putting together a build for this one...
Just built in this with the project zero board. Such a fun case to build in.
I always love seeing the Lego Technic Jeep in your vids.
This is really good looking. I think i might grab this for when i make a "steam machine" whenever valve finally releases SteamOS officially
The horizontal option slaps. It's so nice to see case manufacturers not being so austere and not-fun.
It’s A Beautiful Case And Practical
on the side it loks really good, it's probably the first time i feel like the 2nd orientation of teh tower was well thought
Forget computer envy. I have hair envy.
Micro ATX with a 420 AIO. Now we're talking
Cool case, now we need cool micro ATX motherboards
Is it possible to mount the legs on the other corner? Because I usually put my PC on the left side and I want the IO ports to face forward.
This case is making me debate whether continue with a mATX motherboard for my next computer to go full ATX...
I would actually buy this. I like the look.
It looks like an emergency escape pod, lol. However, I do quite like the design.
I love what TT is doing, but they really should have done a retro beige or gray option imo.
Could you use the optional legs to secure the case to a wall, instead of sitting horizontally on a desk? Hard to tell if they are fastened properly to the case and sturdy enough for that application
The legs at this time are just a piece of plastic the case leans on. So it won’t be suitable for wall installation. But a great idea for sure!
-D.
mATX becoming more popular is due to ATX boards getting expensive as well as the brand new GPUs. If you're going to cut a corner in your build, it's the motherboard first, ram 2nd.
I would really love to know if it supports Corsair Shift PSU. I am really into that case..
I recently bought a hyte case but I regret it because I prefer this so much more it fits on my small desk.
That's one cool case. Maybe in 20 years, I'll replace my current case 😂😂😂
yo that angled stand is so cool man!
Interesting case design and so many options before considering case orientation 👍
Shame doesn’t allow fans under the GPU. That would make a killer case. Would allow almost a CTE airflow style.
I have kept my eye on the Tower 100, and 200. But when choosing a case, it just never quite fit the bill. A bit too large for an ITX setup, and that was the only option for it. The fact that it expanded just a bit to allow mATX support (which was probably needed just to offer support to all 4 slot GPU's), it is now on my list of cases to buy and try.
In the last 10 systems that I have built, 8 of them ar mATX, 1 ATX and one ITX. mATX I feel is often overlooked, and compromises need to be made in order to use in some enclosures. I think that we will see more cases for mATX simply due to the GPU sizes and want to support them. Many traditional layout ITX cases I expect to start expanding to mATX support (at least on paper).
I feel that this case still has just a little too much unused space, but the airflow and radiator support I think can offset that just a bit.
edit: looking at marketing material and static images, can fans/radiators be mounted on the GPU's side panel? If not, then I think this is a huge miss and write off on the case for anything but an aircooled GPU configuration. Sigh, I got my hopes up too early, which was the same way that I felt about Tower 200.
I like this. If I didn't go for the Asus AP201 I would have gone for this.
1:51 well thats a great thing about matx over itx, ya can slot in a wifi card
It seems that in the vertical orientation, the power/reset switches and USB outlets at the top would be better placed where the optional LCD screen is located.
Loving the Matx resurgence
Really like it... Should be ITX, though...
That would probably take a cpu+GPU on watercooling with that 420... Which I would love to keep GPU fan noise down and temp cool...
Rreally good looking. First time I want to build a glass case.
Imagine if this case was fully aluminium :O Wish they had the option for a classic metallic silver or champagne color as well! I'm not into those they offer, so I'll probably end up choosing black.
damn, i just built a pc with the tower 200, very happy but this case is so damn good
maaaaan I got the previous version from my wedding registry a year and a half ago and I'm trying really hard not to just buy this one 😭 I love this style and can't wait to see it on sale one day
This case really does look interesting. Amazing all fan mount points take 140mm fans. A few questions: 1) the specs says you can mount two fans in the rear, which seem to put them under the motherboard? --- are the rear fans effectiveness restricted?; 2) how does the cables from motherboard and GPU route? can't tell how big the cut outs are to cables out of the case or how clean that would look.
Do love me some mATX and been waiting for this
the ability to tilt the case .. that i honestly like a lot..
is there a list of what motherboard was used and other pc parts if one wanted to copy or gain insight on what would fit best for this case? I plan on getting this when the green comes out.
I wish we could get some shot of how you route stuff from the back to the motherboard.
i have this case it is by far my favorite case to build in and best looking case
What I like most about this case is ,you can lay it down on its side. BUT What Will Be The Final Cost having the case laying down and will a 360 fit with tubes down like they should be. I would like to see the I/O Cab be relocated to the bottom middle.
Link to the mousepad?