How to Calculate Margin of Safety? Learn 3 Unique Methods | Ben Graham & The Intelligent Investor

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  • @PaulMaddela
    @PaulMaddela Рік тому +15

    Shankar I have to tell you that by simply watching your videos and then researching on and reading books written by folks you introduced such as one up on wallstreet by Peter Lynch and little book that beats the market by Joel greenblat i am able to create my own methodologies to invest. I am stress free while investing now by simply absorbing the knowledge you have shared. Thank you for another banger!!!

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +5

      Thank you very much Paul. Very happy to read this note & you nailed my objective of starting this channel -- I want to be a part of and build a community of learners. Thx for being a part of it & while not all videos will be bangers, I assure you there will be something to learn, improve & adapt in most videos which'll give us that little edge in investing & in analysing other life situations

  • @sandeepreddy9332
    @sandeepreddy9332 Рік тому +18

    I have been involved with finance for over a year now, and after a few months of my journey I felt like everything in UA-cam or other platforms was very repetitive. You are the only creator offering very high value and expert finance content which you cannot find elsewhere. Most UA-camrs always focus on the “Beginner Investor” because that’s where the views lie, but I am glad you chose to portray more advanced investment topics/ strategies even though it has a niche audience. I can only imagine how much effort goes into your videos. Thank you for all the effort you put in and all the knowledge you selflessly share. I hope you don’t stop creating content and get all the views you deserve!
    -A viewer who has been watching your videos since you were VP at ET Money

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +5

      Thank you Sandeep for your kind words of encouragement. Knowledge goes through cycles and I'm certain the current flock of new-to-investing beginners will want to learn advanced concepts in the lines of what I teach on my channel. I think I'm sowing the seeds for them now .. so that when they are ready, they have cooked food to feast on.

    • @harikrishnanchandramohan4209
      @harikrishnanchandramohan4209 Рік тому

      @@shankarnath On one end, experts preach time in the market. On the other end, the same experts talk about margin of safety. But don't they contradict each other.

  • @DurairajT
    @DurairajT Рік тому +8

    (1/Price to Earning) >=0.07 AND
    Market Capitalization > 500 AND
    (((Sales/((Net block + Net block preceding year)/2))*NPM last year * (1-Dividend Payout Ratio))-Depreciation)>Sales growth
    As shown in the video by Shankar JI.

  • @dheerajkukal8475
    @dheerajkukal8475 Рік тому +2

    The amount of Trust i have in Shankar sir is that first i like the video and then watch. I am so confident that i will definitely learn something from the video. Thank you Shankar sir for sharing all the learnings.

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +1

      So nice of you. But as the Russian proverb goes: Trust but verify .. which is why I'll always encourage to put the learnings into action and see the impact yourself.

  • @RajeshKumar-ut3mu
    @RajeshKumar-ut3mu Рік тому +2

    Excellent Video Shankar Sir and Dr.Vijay Malik is master of Fundamental Analysis of stocks.

  • @Jyyo
    @Jyyo Рік тому +3

    Lovely video, Dr. Vijay is a gem, great to see you referencing him

  • @AbhaySingh08
    @AbhaySingh08 Рік тому +3

    you put a lot of hardwork in educating common folks like me....more power to you... keep up shankar!

  • @TRAVELGUIDETIPSbyVivek
    @TRAVELGUIDETIPSbyVivek Рік тому

    I had taken Dr malik subscription earlier. Nothing to write about though but he is very knowledgeable, no question about that.

  • @thyagtubes
    @thyagtubes Рік тому +1

    I was about to ask for Screener formula…but you did include it in the last couple of minutes. Thanks a lot!!

  • @jayadevtn1987
    @jayadevtn1987 Рік тому +1

    Hello sir, had to watch this video 3 times inorder to clearly understand the concept (probably the first two times I was not concentrating enough), but now things are much clearer. I did try to run the query and with the filters u mentioned , am getting the below list via screener.
    Am not quiet sure if this is correct or if I applied something wrong with the query.
    Please find my stocks below.
    1. Binny
    2. Manaksia
    3. Shriram properties
    4. Equitas small finance bank Ltd.

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +1

      Glad you understood the crux of what Dr. Malik was saying. The core of the concept is the business's margin of safety. Also, good to know you applied the screener .. and atleast in my opinion, a screener does not do good justice to this concept. In my opinion, margin of safety as I explained in this video should be treated like an investing principle and not as much a stock selection rule. HUL was an example I inserted on purpose to explain how an exceedingly valuable stock might have some inherent hiccups in its business model that we might be ignoring. More work needs to be done on this topic I feel .. but thanks for going through the rigour. Hope you learnt something

    • @jayadevtn1987
      @jayadevtn1987 Рік тому

      @@shankarnath very much. I did feel the concept was more important than the screener . Thanks for reassuring that. Also thanks for sharing your knowledge , I have learned most of the knowledge from mutual funds , till whatever little i know about stocks mostly from you and few other channels.

  • @harshwardhanranasaria8704
    @harshwardhanranasaria8704 Рік тому +1

    Awesome work, Shankar ji,
    I m a Finance Professor, get to learn a lot from you.

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Thank you Harshwardhan ji. The world of finance is wide and deep .. we are all learning something everyday from blogs, videos, news, podcasts and even tweets.

  • @jaikishansmspl39
    @jaikishansmspl39 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing the concept

  • @sagarodedra6104
    @sagarodedra6104 Рік тому +1

    Thank you sir. Nice video

  • @salaudeenph9699
    @salaudeenph9699 Рік тому +1

    useful sir thank you

  • @MrVeer58
    @MrVeer58 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for clear explanation of Margins of Safety.
    HUL has low SSGR but good CASH Flow. Should one invest in it ?

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  8 місяців тому

      Most welcome. Apologies, I have not analyzed HUL so don't have an opinion on it

    • @MrVeer58
      @MrVeer58 8 місяців тому

      @@shankarnath You have explained about 3 methods for calculating Margin of Safety. Amongst the 3, which one is most reliable ?

  • @lisboaprince4513
    @lisboaprince4513 Рік тому +1

    your presentation skills are superb

  • @epicenteryt
    @epicenteryt Рік тому +11

    Dr. Vijay mallik is indeed very underrated

  • @mohangopalan1937
    @mohangopalan1937 Рік тому +1

    Great learning 👍

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Thank you, glad you found it useful

  • @sangramjog5882
    @sangramjog5882 Рік тому +1

    RAN QUERY ON SCREENER - PUBLISHED AS SHANKER NATH 3 POINT FORMULA - THANK YOU SIR

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Most welcome! Shankar's spelling is a bit incorrect :)

  • @sheikmydeen4362
    @sheikmydeen4362 Рік тому

    Recently started viewing your channel. The way of your research just awesome. It is giving new way of idea and thinking in the world of personal finance. I need a clarity on one thing which i am not getting clarified anywhere. you are the correct person to answer it. I want to invest Mutual funds for 7-10 years with 15% ROI expectation. To achieve this i want invest aggresive plans.
    My choices are
    1. Nifty50 index , 10yrs ROI 12.9%
    2 . Technology fund , 10 yrs ROI 21.7%
    3. Midcap fund , 10yrs ROI 18.9%
    4 . Conservative Hybrid ( THis is for balancing and investing during market fall ) . ROI 9.3%
    Allocation is 25% each. I had a doubt 4th fund to go Equity only or Conservative fund for re-investing during market fall ? By doing extra investment during market fall of 20% or more it will good to achieving the goal of 15% .
    Please suggest or add some points into next videos.

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Thank you very much, Sheik. I have a video on how I position my own portfolio, maybe that can help. I should mention that I don't have any big expectations like 15% ROI from this portfolio but still I think you'll find some useful info there. Link: ua-cam.com/video/bN5QdxY3RVs/v-deo.html

  • @DevNeerajSharma
    @DevNeerajSharma Рік тому +1

    Keep up the amazing work Shankar..

  • @pardhumurali1206
    @pardhumurali1206 Рік тому +1

    The content was very informative and refreshing

  • @karthikeyanv463
    @karthikeyanv463 Рік тому

    Thanks Shankar. Another informative presentation,,👍👌

  • @niteshchauhan4051
    @niteshchauhan4051 Рік тому +1

    Kudos, you got a new subscriber. Quality content ❤️

  • @anudevmadhu902
    @anudevmadhu902 Рік тому

    Superb learned something new

  • @amanrathod9043
    @amanrathod9043 Рік тому +1

    Very informative video👍
    Good job Shankar

  • @jaikrishnank428
    @jaikrishnank428 Рік тому +1

    Great work Shankar

  • @chemistrycorner6874
    @chemistrycorner6874 Рік тому +1

    To me Dr. Vijay Malik's blogs are bible to do fundamental analysis of any stock....

  • @drshn_h
    @drshn_h Рік тому +1

    Nice illustrative video👍. Is this from any post from Dr. Vijay? Any link to the article would be appreciated. Thanks.

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Thanks. I have already tagged the article in the video's description. As a practice, I add most sources and additional reading material in the description for everyone's benefit. Enjoy!

  • @vikasnarang83
    @vikasnarang83 Рік тому

    In my view free cashflow is the most important but underrated signal of how a bus is doing.

  • @rituyadav1851
    @rituyadav1851 Рік тому +1

    Very informative video..Happy to subscribe your channel.

  • @krushnadeshmukh2489
    @krushnadeshmukh2489 7 місяців тому

    Please share important books on investing concepts

  • @arvindsharma3995
    @arvindsharma3995 4 місяці тому

    great

  • @deepanshuarorashorts
    @deepanshuarorashorts Рік тому

    Margin of safety is the real cushion which we should not forget while buying a stock.

  • @GoutamDey
    @GoutamDey Рік тому +1

    Shankar thanks for your insightful videos which I am really a fan off. One suggestion for you to consider and that is proving some sharable screener for people like us to start with to understand and may be tweak here and there to understand it more about the concepts like this video. Again thanks a lot for your awesome contents .

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +2

      Most welcome, Goutam. I do share screeners wherever possible. There are screeners in 6 videos so far. In 4 additional videos, I have attached excel worksheets that viewers can play around with.

    • @GoutamDey
      @GoutamDey Рік тому

      @@shankarnath great thanks for sharing. Thank once again.

  • @hemanthkaja
    @hemanthkaja Рік тому +1

    Intriguing video as always. I looked in the screener using the parameters used here and somehow it seems to be the secret recipe for banks, state run companies, Asset management and infra companies 😂 Any idea as to why this would be the case?

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Thanks.
      1. The SSGR and the FCF methods are not apt for evaluating financial companies including banks and AMCs. These are applicable more for traditional manufacturing and service companies.
      2. I am surprised you are receiving PSUs and infrastructure companies in your screener. Given their low sales-to-NFA and poor retention ratio, these should have been weeded out. Ofcourse, there is the cyclicity factor and if you are examining just 1 year of data then the sales and profit margins will be deceptively high which'll not present the right picture. Kindly be vary of that and as practice, pls use normalized earnings and sales numbers

    • @hemanthkaja
      @hemanthkaja Рік тому

      @@shankarnath I was surprised too. I too believe it is the cyclical factor that brings these stocks into the list.

  • @harikrishnanjavahar6718
    @harikrishnanjavahar6718 Рік тому +2

    Really informative.

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Glad you liked it. I loved it as a concept .. the "margin of safety of a business" is something I hadn't thought of.

    • @harikrishnanjavahar6718
      @harikrishnanjavahar6718 Рік тому

      @@shankarnath concept of ssgr was new to me. Margin of safety 🦺🙏

  • @corcookings4766
    @corcookings4766 Рік тому

    Can you please explain full video on EDELWEISS FINANCIAL LMT COMPANY

  • @rajkumarr4209
    @rajkumarr4209 Рік тому

    Excellent sir

  • @shashi3378
    @shashi3378 Рік тому +1

    Nice video

  • @ramyasri6093
    @ramyasri6093 Рік тому

    Even i have read Dr. Vijay Malik articles. They are good. But sir the companies which you mentioned as having more cash flow are not high growth right. Sometimes too much cash flow means lack of growth opportunities.. especially for large cap IT companies

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +1

      Yes Ramya Sri & that's why a screener is never my most trusted weapon, it should not be considered the brahmastra of stock selection. Every company will have pros and cons .. and growth rate, cash flow, management, valuation etc. all metrics one needs to examine

    • @ramyasri6093
      @ramyasri6093 Рік тому

      @@shankarnath true sir . Requesting you to make a video regd. Qualitative aspects of business . Especially from corporate governance point of view .. please give few points to retail investors as to which type & kind of companies to avoid

  • @AB00730
    @AB00730 Рік тому

    Very nice

  • @Jyyo
    @Jyyo Рік тому

    I have a request, since we are almost at the peak of high debt yields or mostly likely to taper down.
    Folks around me tend to understand your explanations more than mine, trying to convince few of my elder relatives that they might be safer of with bonds 😇

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +1

      I've recorded a video on 5 alternative fixed income investment products. I'll release it on Saturday & the objective of the video is to help people diversify their fixed income portfolio beyond debt funds or fixed deposits. Come to think of it FD, most debt funds carry the same fate i.e. interest drops, defaults, banking sector hiccups -- this video explore some opportunity areas. Hope you like it

  • @sms9865
    @sms9865 Рік тому

    Great video 😊😊

  • @RashidPremier
    @RashidPremier 6 місяців тому +1

    More power to you from Pakistan

  • @nikhilbansal4542
    @nikhilbansal4542 Рік тому +2

    Sir if you make reels on finance your channel growth📈 will be significant

  • @s0ulweaver
    @s0ulweaver Рік тому

    What about margin of safety using PEG ratio?
    Can we compare PB to that stocks historical average or median PB?

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Hi,
      1. How would the formula work with PEG ratio? I mean, what is the PEG ratio be compared with?
      2. I haven't seen any visible benefits of comparing current PB with historical average or median PB

    • @s0ulweaver
      @s0ulweaver Рік тому

      @@shankarnath 1. Comparing the PEG ratio with it's historical average perhaps? And comparing with industry average?
      2. Noted

  • @sampathkumar3110
    @sampathkumar3110 Рік тому

    i find that your videos have content which is more than a one hour lecture .

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Thanks! There is a lot of preparation that goes into making these videos. It takes me 35-40 hours to produce a 15-minute piece of content i.e. time spent on researching, scripting, revising, pre-shoot planning, recording, post-production, description, thumbnail, commenting etc.

  • @saivenkatesh7309
    @saivenkatesh7309 Рік тому

    Waiting for this video sir

  • @pavanrode6682
    @pavanrode6682 Рік тому

    NIIT LTD share ke bare me bataiye

  • @shaikakber4717
    @shaikakber4717 Рік тому +1

  • @fearless5973
    @fearless5973 11 місяців тому

    how averaging the growth rate is 8.9% . its coming to be 15.35

  • @nabeelyahiya
    @nabeelyahiya Рік тому +1

    Excellent again. It was good decision not to give names of stocks with margin of safery😊👍

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +2

      Thanks Nabeel. Yes, the point of the video was not to give stock names but to give an understanding of the concept. I tried it on 5-6 of my stocks (not screener but actually calculated the values normalizing some of the values to account for covid years & business cycles) and the process gave me some more ideas on recognizing MOS.

  • @PrasanthBenjamin
    @PrasanthBenjamin Рік тому

    With margin of safety we reduce the downside risk, does it reduce the upside potential?

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Hi, why did you think of that premise? A context will help

  • @vidya014
    @vidya014 11 місяців тому

    Try these:
    PE (fair)
    = D/E weighted Average(ROE,Gni,Gtotal_equity)
    = (ROE+Gni+Gtotal_equity)/3 ÷ (1 + D/E)
    Margin Of Safety
    = [ Quoted P/E ÷ PE (fair) ] - 1
    G = Growth
    ni = Net Income

  • @9092295555
    @9092295555 Рік тому

    It's more of finance class then Investing. Anway's, it has valuable info which is of not my type.

  • @129prashant
    @129prashant Рік тому

    👍

  • @Prim0rdiaL7
    @Prim0rdiaL7 Рік тому +1

    Shankar ji, please write and pin a community post listing a few books that beginner, intermediate and advanced investors should read. Topics could range from personal finance to macroeconomics. Just for us to get a better idea about how the world of finance works.

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому

      Hello Debarun - I'll try. In each of my videos, I have a section on "Some Useful Readings/Resources" where I list books, articles, websites, videos and even twitter thread which can further one's understanding of that topic. Maybe, you can start with these

  • @saurabhsgkp
    @saurabhsgkp Рік тому

    I think Debt Capacity Margin is also an important metric. Read an article by Bakshi Sir on it . Your view on it .....

  • @prdudi5939
    @prdudi5939 Рік тому

    Really great video sir and it would be better if you can speak in Hindi. Thank you

  • @amareshpradhan5160
    @amareshpradhan5160 Рік тому

    You are good but needs marketing skills to attract subscriber

  • @debkumarbiswas9927
    @debkumarbiswas9927 Рік тому

    SSGR measure is a suspect at best.

  • @ambedkarpodeti
    @ambedkarpodeti Рік тому

    Namaskaram, thanks for the video.. Can you suggest stock of the month for investing purpose... I am still learning the concepts about stock market but it will take sufficient time... Also, recently I received a phone number in the message in UA-cam chat from you... Starting from +1.. I had a doubt whether it's real or fake.. otherwise u can show your phone number in the video itself to avoid the confusion. Thank you 🙏

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +1

      Hello Ambedkar ji: I don't share my phone number/whatsapp details with anyone.

    • @ambedkarpodeti
      @ambedkarpodeti Рік тому

      @@shankarnath Ok .. but be careful... Someone is trying to take advantage... If you want to know about that number, i can share the screenshot to your email..

    • @shankarnath
      @shankarnath  Рік тому +1

      @@ambedkarpodeti Thanks! I have enabled Spam Alert on UA-cam and changed it to "Strict" now. This will keep most spam messages out although 1-2 will creep in from time to time.

  • @srirangamvenkatasatyamurth4148

    Sir,
    Pls share your mail id