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Is This The Best League In The World?
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2018
- Massive crowds, competitive games, cheap prices, and historic clubs - all factors that contribute to make the Bundesliga II one of, if not, the best league in the world
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Even Germany's third division attracts thousands of fans every season, recently the team Kaiserslautern had a record of 40k spectators in a match. Pretty impressive really.
BuzzFox www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/GB4 www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/L3 www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/L2 www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/GB2
Owen ATkins Thats not true (Source: www.ran.de/allgemein/bildergalerien/top-20-die-sportligen-mit-dem-hoechsten-zuschauerschnitt-der-welt )
2. und 3. Bundesliga ist einfach geil.
@@novelist5380 ua-cam.com/video/HWAtk5_tniU/v-deo.html
Thats the official statistic
@@ian5956 WTF plastic fan
At Leicester City we have had a friendship over the last 10 years with VFL Bochum. I went to see Bochum v Freiburg a couple of years ago and it was absolutely brilliant. I am in my fifties and it reminded me of how football was in Britain 30 years ago.
Cheap..atmospheric..and raw passion. Oh... and you can drink beer and eat currywurst standing on the terraces.
Also, most of the clubs are owned by the fans. We have so much to learn in Britain from the Bundesliga and the German second division
@@oldskoolnutterbielefeldbbc5685 Kühe und Schweine Bielefeld!!!!🖕🖕🖕🖕
@@oldskoolnutterbielefeldbbc5685
Ostwestfalen, Idioten... Scheiß Arminia Bielefeld
Ostwestfalen, Idioten... Scheiß Arminia Bielefeld
🤢🤮🤬😡🖕🖕
I've been to see VFL once. It was great atmosphere. And they won 2-1 against union Berlin.
I still prefer Borussia Dortmund tho lol
the premier league cant be saved anymore.
its not possible for investors just buying clubs in the most cases rb leipzig proofs the opposite,but that the fans own the club is just a romantic view from the supporters cause at the end of the day money rule in the bundesliga also and supporters hae nothing to say;)
Tradition schlägt Kommerz! Respekt, aus Serbien.
The premier league is being ruined by money, ticket prices are insane at some grounds like emirates, so the working class can’t afford it and so it gets replaced by tourist
I think the Premier League is the best League to watch on television but not a great league for going to the stadium.
In the 80s and early 90s all german Fans look up to the english supporters now the support in England is nearly dead english lads Come on bring back these days football is for you and me not for fucking industry
@@BaguetteOfDoomYes, but the two go hand in hand. The selling of the English game to the highest television bidders, and the richest owners, and the highest-paying foreign tourists and fans, has completely killed much of the terrace culture that made the English game great in the first place (although it has also largely killed the dark side of that culture).
The main issue in UK was lacking stadium safety, which they didn't invest and organized sustainable and reacted opon with drastic measures. With high prices they didn't price "the working class" out, but people who drink more than one beer and celebrate hilariously. Even the Bundesliga is more sterile as it was in the past, but still keeps things far better in balance and individualistic. With the creation of the Premier League all effort was focused on things who are in contrast of that of typical fan issues like identification and sense of proportions. The remaining attending people of a more superficial match making are business people, event people and tourists, who want "quality" and "planned enjoyment" for their money spent, or they are at another event.
true
cheap tickets followed by Loyalty, History and fan input has made Germany the best supported leagues no matter the level
The 2nd and 3rd divisor yeah, the Bundesliga is shit and boring, let’s be honest...
@@sasukeito1287 still the best supported league if you look at the number of fans per game.
My club in England Tranmere Rovers was relegated from the 3rd tier to th 5th tier in consecutive years were we spent 3 seasons. We were then promoted in consecutive seasons back to tier 3. In those 3 seasons in tier 5 we never dropped below 5000 average crowds. We now get over 7000. If a club gets the fans on side and believing in it then anything is possible. We do not have tons of money like the big clubs but we have loyal fans who care and good owners who have a clear plan. They actually want the club to eventually follow somethiing similar to how German clubs operate with the fans owning a fair amount of the club.
@@sasukeito1287 Shit and boring? Seems you cant appreciate good atmosphere and attacking football....
@@lukashradecky5492 🤙🏼
I personally think German leagues are the best leagues in the world coming from a Celtic fan. 🍀🍀🇩🇪
Stephen HH
Best regards from ‚a german team‘ (Borussia Mönchengladbach). Celtic is such a sympathic club
Celtic is a great club! Greetings from Germany.
Doesn't' mean much coming from someone who supports a team in the SPL.
BVB and Celtic Forever 🖤💛
Premier League fans triggered
Exactly!
You mean customers or cash cows
I'm a city fan and i couldn't agree more
well at least we are better than their first division
@@kingt2olase94no ur not u just have more money.
I'm from Dresden and I hoped so long, that you show these 3 teams. The ultra scene in Germany is very good. The create own songs, the whole stadium is singing and we have the best choreographies. And we hate Red Bull Leipzig
i hate bayern beacuse they steal players from other teams for free mostly.
@Leonard H. Informier dich ma genauer über uns.. Und dass du Grundlos beleidigst, sagt schon viel über dich aus ;)
@Leonard H. akzeptier,dass man ohne Sponsoren im Profifußball es zu nichts bringt
@@aarushparvataneni3249 NUR der FC Bayern
Als Gladbach-Fan kann ich Dir nur zustimmen. Scheiß Red Bull!
Ich hätte 1000 mal lieber Dynamo Dresden in der 1. Liga. Und Bayer L ist genauso ein Drecksverein. Da ist mir Köln sogar noch lieber.
notice how after defeats the fans stay and clap for their team, same as the players appreciate the fans? that's what being a supporter(!) is about. you dont see that happening to "bigger" clubs like real madrid for example where a lot of people just go, expecting to be entertained and leave early or boo when their team isnt doing great. take arsenal vs 1. fc köln (exactly 1 year ago) as an example. a lot of arsenal fans werent interested in europa league, their atmosphere was crap. there were about 17.000(!!) supporters from cologne and they celebrated their team even long after the defeat. dont get me wrong, i love watching the premier league and their core supporters are trying hard, but english football sold their soul years ago. they should learn from german football culture to get back to golden days..
Exactly
2nd and 3rd devision is where you find the real supporters who go through everything with passion
My club KSC got relegated a few times between 2nd and third but the support always stayed the same
@TheSmithersy ooooh yeah, the sun and the daily mail said that....and nothing was true about it. Cologne fans behaved better than english fans when they visit the continent.
@TheSmithersy nah, it came from the yellow press and actually there were only 5 people arrested, the hooligans who tried to get into the stadium were 50-80 people, so also nothing special, and they just wanted to get more people from cologne into the stadium, because Arsenal only gave them the minimum of tickets and wouldn't let cologne fans get into the normal fan blocks.
Also: Fc Köln warned Arsenal, that there were coming much more fans from germany than they had been given tickets, but Arsenal underestimated that.
It was a normal football game, only many cologne fans were there, so the atmosphere was at least for one day as it should be in a football game, not like all the other games at the arsenal stadium.
And man, the english hools are still the worst, you can see that at every world cup, european cup and in a lot of the club tournaments as well.
And why the war references? Still salty that germany is the powerhouse in Europe even if we lost? Have a nice life in post brexit britain, I'm glad that you leave.
@TheSmithersy yeah of course, european championship 2016 the english fans rioted in Marseille and the last incident was in Amsterdam in March 2018 before a friendly game, but of coooourse, you outgrew it years ago XD
TheSmithersy wow, you really try hard to sound like an idiot, don‘t you?
Went to Preussen Muenster in the 3rd league recently, have to say I was very impressed. Much better feeling and atmosphere than anything I'd experienced in League 1 or 2 in England and at a fraction of the price. Quality of football was also good. I pay double what I did for Preussen to watch Coventry lose or draw 0-0 every week normally
Preußen münster ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Dynamo Dresden, 2 Round of dfb cup, away in berlin at olimyia stadium. 30K Away fans!
Aaaaaand currently second to last those idiots.
35k
@@gintokisakata7490 So?
@@gintokisakata7490 They are playing better football than you will ever do in your live shut up. Dont say they are idiots just because of the natural being of football
Keep coming with the German football content! Ignorant EPL fans in the US dont know what they're missing
Honestly, people should just support an MLS team.
I agree and im a Manchester United supporter. This is what we miss in england and i love to see, no matter how small or less competitive your german club will be you always wear it on your shirt with passion and love. For me its either Germany or Italy at this point.
Go to Hamburg- Derby :D
It’s gonna be the greatest derby in this season! Auf geht’s, HSV!
Morgen ist es soweit 💪 Nur Der HSV
Go to Celtic vs Rangers 😂 🍀🍀
@@PlayboiMatt. Sankt Pauli ?
@@yerdaridesgoats Ja
And now Union Berlin are preparing for their 3rd season in the Bundesliga and will be playing in Europe 😮
The 2. Bundesliga is the best 2nd League in the world!!!
That's not true for a long time. The level has unfortunately fallen.
@@sasukeito1287 which one is better in football
@@tornadothor1041 championship
i love watching this kind of support the English clubs need to allow this kind of atmosphere at our own clubs instead of moaning stewards telling you to sit down. Great video with amazing fans
I recommend sharing the story of darmstadt 98, from going down into league 4 to the death of Johnny the story is probably one of its kind
i abseloutley love watching dinamao dresden every year, i do a road trip through germany visiting family going places like cologne, berlin and frankfurt but dresden is my favourite city in germany
and also going through poland as my mum is from there, some of the biggest cities like Katowice and Lodz are in the second division and the atmosphere they deliver is incredible, the ultras and organised fan groups are some of the best in the world
So close to ten minutes.... a missed oppurtunity
It would be awesome if every European league would like the Bundesliga 2. There would have to be less business with the teams and limit the purchases of foreign players (1 or 2 at the most). Do not let the teams change the names of the stadiums by brands of companies, not change the shields of the teams and well, many more things. Grettings from Italy to my German friends!
this shows how disillusioned the prem is. BOYCOTT THE PREMIER LEAGUE, A LEAGUE NOT FOR THE FANS.
TheLemonizer lol see how you’re all upset and whining about it all. Proving my point for me mate :)
Kaiserslautern
Samstag werdet ihr begraben
Bremen liebt euch!!!
Ohne Lautern fetzt keine Liga! Selbst Frankfurter und Mainzer wünschen sich wieder richtige Derbys...
KAISERSLAUTERN !!!
We're still a big club. In Germany a good club is defined not primarily by its success but by its fans. RB Leipzig, Leverkusen, Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg will never hold a candle to Kaiserslautern, Dresden, Magdeburg, 1860, Rostock etc.
Ive never agreed more with anything published by copa 90 than this
2. Liga ist super
Dear Copa90,
Could you do a short piece on TSV 1860 München? The recent history is very interesting.
BraGamer GT - nun, ich bin für die Bayern, aber wir sind alle Münchner und mir wäres lieber wenn die Löwen wieder da wären.
@@nickystyles868 find ich auch. Ich vermisse die München Derbys
German Fans are the best Fans 🤙🏻👌🏻
Einfach wahr, selbst wenn der Verein absteigt egal wo hin, man bleibt bei ihm
You should try out some of the lower leagues. In the Regionalliga Südwest, which is division 4, Waldhof Mannheim is definitely worth a visit.
DYNAMO DRESDEN ARE CRAZY!
Pronósticos Deportivos Yes i was there last year. It was very nice.
wer hätte es gedacht das die in dresden kein englisch können
YES MAGDEBURG they have amazing fans (Wrexham fan)
Wrexhammmmmmmmm..... greetings from Magdeburg! Blue/White Greetings
actually, nobody likes Magdeburg in Germany. They are just trash
@@TheOneMarwin1 Nonsense den du da verzapfst 😅
There's so much passion from players and fans alike in the lower rungs of most football leagues. Players play for the fans
Premier league isn't even the most competitive it's the South and Central American leagues like Brazil, Colombia and Mexico or even Russia who seems to have a different champion every year
MLS is competitive as well.
THE Atmosphere! And the pre game and halftime food!!!
Best quality = premier league
Most passion = 2. Bundesliga
SouthSide Ultras
NO CHANCE, Most passionate fans are in the greek league.
Serie A is miles better then the EPL
@@suziehassan7752 😄😄
I don't think Premier League has the best quality. You could see that in the champions league there was no english team in the semi finals. The problem is the money they have. They just buy and buy and buy. Most teams from the 2. league habe more money than teams in the Bundesliga in germany. And thats why they always buy so many new players. They have to start to build teams over a long time imo and not to buy new players and change the roster every year.
Rly would like to see that in english football
@@yasch3696 how much English teams were in the final in 2019
ein spiel wo heidenheim gewonnen hat haha ganz was neues.. sehr schön anzusehen👌🤗
to see this now and to know where Union Berlin is right now.... crazy
Johnny 💙💙 Du musst Kämpfen ⚜️
Premier League Fans salty lol
Ahem... customers
@@hanssiegling8262 did you say RB Leipzig?
Copa 90 should go to league 1 and league 2 and do a documentary there. Some large supporter groups like Pompey consistently get high attendances and great atmospheres
You should visit Dresden again and show some more of this huge club (for example search for " Dresden krieg dem dfb " here on yt )! From a black & yellow "cousin" 😉
Dirt Cheap tickets. Amazing atmosphere. Good football. Germany knows how to do football. The last stronghold for top tier football freedom
I just ran into your channel. I highly appreciate it. I'm super excited to get to watch some more.
Would love to see a video about FC hansa rostock. Ahu!
Homeplay is the best in Magdeburg ( HKS) forever blue & white
I love 2nd division leagues. So much passion and sometimes more interesting than top flight.
I hate the premier league for what its become. I don't want to but the entire culture has been sold out, the German league is the best without a shadow of a doubt. I just hope and prey all us english fans work together to bring back the culture, safe standing, beer affordable prices. How can the premier league be the best in the world when the football fan experience is the least important thing?
Even in Germany the Clubs are not owned by the members or supporters. But: there's much more Impact to the Clubs. Although nothing functions without Money and sponsoring, companys still aren't allowed to overtake majority. (50+1 !!!)
It’s great, especially when Stuttgart arrived (and left) two seasons ago
I've always liked Dynamo Dresden. Mainly due to the fact that in Stoke-On-Trent there is an Area called Dresden.
In our Stadium in Darmstadt we have 16.000 fans and all are singing!
Lovely. Also a favorite on Football Manager, go Fortuna Köln !!
Celtic V St Pauli is what I'm waiting for. What a game it would be🍀
awesome stuff! Eisern!
the commercialisation of football especially in England ruins football. Germany has done well with this
A nation of values and traditions, love it!
Fans in germany is another level with positive vibes❤❤❤
I went to a 2. Bundesliga game in 2016 , It was a Bochum vs RB Leipzig game , great atmosphere, cheap tickets
Dynamo Dresden the team where Ulf Kirsten started his carreer. Great vid Copa90
You should watch Brunswick v Hannover
Fußball Club Magdeburg!
Und jetzt am nächsten Spieltag ist Dresden fällig!
Sandhausen hatt das Eis gebrochen :D
Ihr kriegt aufs Maul so sieht's aus ! FORZA DYNAMO 💛
I Was really looking forward to the Dresden vs Hamburg game but it got postponed
You must go to Ruhrpottderby. It is Dortmund vs Schalke. 8.12.2018. But it is very difficult to get tickets
2nd and 3rd devision is where you find the real football fans is where you find passion and real support.
I m not german but how the germantreat a fan n club is absolutely amazing
Grüße aus Rostock :D
Respect to people who supports their teams good times, bad times !
the saddest thing about german soccer is there are so many teams that deserve to play bundesliga but are stuck in 2. or 3. division
Come to Arminia Bielefeld in the second League
There you can see good Football and one of the best Fans of West Germany.
Not the MLS 😂
0:20 so ein Ehrenmann 💙💙💙
Make a documentary on Mumbai City FC
Andheri complex arena😂
Plz Copa90 make a documentary about the club ucd afc they just won the league in Ireland and are promoted to the top division they are also a really interesting team cause they are a university team!!!
Tries currywurst:
This is the best food in the world
Tries Bratwurst:
This is even better than the last one
Please make a video about Hansa Rostock
Love Premier League, but I have to admit that these leagues are as awesome as Premier League, La Liga or Bundesliga itself
And now UB in the CL madness
2nd Bundesliga is Just The best
Hey copa90 im waiting for the next derbyday eps, why dont you guys looking for derby at asia continent there is so much derby here cant wait that episode
Go to Bielefeld next, we'll meet in Block 1❤
My chickens in the garden: 3:18
i love scottish league
As an SC Freiburg fan I also really like the Scottish premiership. Visited a game of Hearts and Rangers and it was great!
Dynamo is actually pretty alienated in the city, many people in Dresden hate the club because they still struggle to get their curve clean from racism violence and hatred. Obviously Dresden has mostly nice fans but still has the hooligan image.
I think I just became a Darmstadt fan.
Quality and Standard of football: Premier League is the best
Atmosphere, history and fan culture: Who knows, there are so many of these leagues, but it definitely isn't the Prem!
@@tonyh7994 Your are right
Quality wise nothing is close to La liga, they've dominated everything.
@@timmi2198 In the past,maybe when Real,Valencia,Deportivo as well as Barca but now half the time its just players cheating and diving
Bochum and Leicester 💙💙
Even some 4th division teams in Germany have better atmosphere than PL. I hope we'll never become like them even if it means we'll lose our ability to compete on an international level.
First comment :) Great content, please keep it up, from Asia :)
Now in League one !!! Eisern !!!
My local club plays in the 2nd Bundesliga :D
Yeah, this Jacob guy must be very happy this year.
I Mean they're right with on the competitve side a club named cottbus Was close too get religeted to liga 3 and promoted next season
Schalke and Dortmund have the best fans in the league. Maybe even the best fans in the world. They travel everywhere for their team, they are extremely loud and have great choreographies.
Dortmund hahhaahahaha
They are very strong of course, but I think the best atmosphere for football is in sud america, buenos aires..
But dortmund, schalke, Stuttgart, Frankfurt,Köln, Hamburg have a great ultras movement
You guys need to go to the Hamburg-Derby
You have to watch a game of Cologne in Our Stadium, it is incredible
And union berlin is doing a title run this season in the Bundesliga
Standing in the K-Block and not chanting is a risky business my boy
Sweet, man.
Would be great to have Dynamo Dresden in the Bundesliga (1.) so there's a proper East German team in that division instead of plastic Red Bull Leipzig. I expect HSV and FC Koln to be back but I'm worried Stuttgart will get relegated which a club of their size shouldn't be. The playoffs should be between 4 teams (include 4th and 5th place teams in B2) instead of 2 for added excitement.
Lets go Dinamo btw FK Sarajevo fan