Did you wash that oil screen before putting it back in? Anyway, this is a very useful video! I'm going to be ordering a GPX fse300R very soon and was wondering how to change the oil, where the filter and screen were, how much oil to use, etc. So thank you for the video! Oh and one more thing. You don't have any clutch issues using the automotive oil instead of motorcycle oil? I also read that motorcycle oils have extra additives to protect the transmission gears, like zinc or something, can't remember exactly what it is.
I've been using Rotella for 20 years in all kinds of motorcycles, before Shell had Rotella approved for motorcycle use by having it certified (T6 that is). They had their own forum, where they had a motorcycle section saying it was fine to use in motorcycles. Only reason T5 isn't certified is because the ash content is slightly too high for the certificate. Only reason, I use T5 or T6...always have except for the brief time in my GasGas that I used Amsoil but later dropped that and just went with much easier to buy Rotella. Asking what oil to use is a huge can of worms on motorcycle sites. Some say use, whatever the manufacture states. Obviously that is the safest answer to give someone. A manufacture is paid by oil companies to market their oil. Some consumers eat that up not understanding how manufacturing works. An engineer is going to design a product to work with a standard, not with a brand. At most you should stick with the standard the manufacture says, not worry about brand. No engine in the history of engineering was manufacture to work with Motul over Shell, or Honda or etc. Also people sometimes get so hung up on brands that are manufacture brands like Honda or Yamaha. Do you think Honda owns and manufactures that oil? Or do you think they contract out to Shell, Penzoil, Valvoline, etc to produce the oil that meets the standard they want to meet! For example Wal-Mart oil (Supertech) is just a rebranded oil by one of the largest oil manufactures 'Warren Oil Company International' for producing oil for stores. I could approach 'Warren Oil Company International' and have a Meeker Extreme oil produced. I always like to give this example. We had a Ford Edge when they first came out (2002?) on the fuel cap it said 'Use BP Fuels' do you really think Ford's engineers designed the engine to work with only BP fuels? Or most likely that BP paid Ford huge money to have that printed on the gas cap and in the manual! I bet there were people out there was believed it and bought BP Fuel thinking it's somehow different from other fuels all produced to a standard. I won't even get into that for example Flint, MI the distribution center for ALL fuel is Mobil owned, so that fuel at BP, Speedway, Ma & Pa station technically was all the same base fuel (different companies add different packages upon fill up like dyes and additives. But in essence it's all Mobil Fuel. What I always find amazing is that people worry so much what they use in a $0-$20,000 motorcycle but that car they just spent $60,000 on they have no clue what oil the dealer, or service center uses. LOL The rule of thumb is do not use oil with anti wear additive packages. Most automotive oil have these now, Diesel oils typically do not. Reason being is it could cause your clutch to slip. If we are talking a beta 4-Stroke or KTM 4-stroke where you have a clutch oil and a transmission oil you can run automotive on the transmission side and then whatever you want on the clutch side that doesn't have anti wear additives. If you are so worried about the oil to use, stick with the manufacture who was paid by Motul (or whoever) to recommend their oil. That's the safe bet. If you understand how things are manufactured then don't be afraid to try other cheaper options.
Is that oil rated for the wet clutch...?You need a specific oil for a motorcycle with a wet clutch otherwise you'll burn the clutch plates...just saying...
ah the old oil debate and the fear to run Rotella. I will figure you are not in the US and maybe haven't heard of Rotella. I'll let you Google all about it. 100,000+ miles on my old Honda XR650R I think I'll stick with Rotella. It's made by Shell, even Shell says you can use it, around 5-10 years ago the got the T6 certified. The T5 failed only because of a higher ash content...but not because it won't work in motorcycles wet clutches.
Per the owners manual? LOL There is no owners manual, oil is cheap...do it as often as you want. My old Honda XR650R I let it go 5,000-8,000 miles...I know I know it's a Honda though. Honestly in the 1065 miles on it now its had like 4 oil/filter changes...LOL I tend to overdo it though. This bike is for sale, $5,500 or best offer.
@@Meekerextreme I’ve got a 2023 YZ250FX and give that bike an oil change every 8 hours. I’m looking for a cheap ish Dual Sport to play around on with low Maintenance. Looks like I will just get that little 23HP KLX300. Thanks for replying.
Thanks for doing this!
Sure thing!
Easier to get the filter out with the magnet on the drainplug :)
Great point!
Did you wash that oil screen before putting it back in? Anyway, this is a very useful video! I'm going to be ordering a GPX fse300R very soon and was wondering how to change the oil, where the filter and screen were, how much oil to use, etc. So thank you for the video! Oh and one more thing. You don't have any clutch issues using the automotive oil instead of motorcycle oil? I also read that motorcycle oils have extra additives to protect the transmission gears, like zinc or something, can't remember exactly what it is.
I've been using Rotella for 20 years in all kinds of motorcycles, before Shell had Rotella approved for motorcycle use by having it certified (T6 that is). They had their own forum, where they had a motorcycle section saying it was fine to use in motorcycles. Only reason T5 isn't certified is because the ash content is slightly too high for the certificate. Only reason, I use T5 or T6...always have except for the brief time in my GasGas that I used Amsoil but later dropped that and just went with much easier to buy Rotella.
Asking what oil to use is a huge can of worms on motorcycle sites. Some say use, whatever the manufacture states. Obviously that is the safest answer to give someone. A manufacture is paid by oil companies to market their oil. Some consumers eat that up not understanding how manufacturing works. An engineer is going to design a product to work with a standard, not with a brand. At most you should stick with the standard the manufacture says, not worry about brand. No engine in the history of engineering was manufacture to work with Motul over Shell, or Honda or etc.
Also people sometimes get so hung up on brands that are manufacture brands like Honda or Yamaha. Do you think Honda owns and manufactures that oil? Or do you think they contract out to Shell, Penzoil, Valvoline, etc to produce the oil that meets the standard they want to meet! For example Wal-Mart oil (Supertech) is just a rebranded oil by one of the largest oil manufactures 'Warren Oil Company International' for producing oil for stores. I could approach 'Warren Oil Company International' and have a Meeker Extreme oil produced.
I always like to give this example. We had a Ford Edge when they first came out (2002?) on the fuel cap it said 'Use BP Fuels' do you really think Ford's engineers designed the engine to work with only BP fuels? Or most likely that BP paid Ford huge money to have that printed on the gas cap and in the manual! I bet there were people out there was believed it and bought BP Fuel thinking it's somehow different from other fuels all produced to a standard. I won't even get into that for example Flint, MI the distribution center for ALL fuel is Mobil owned, so that fuel at BP, Speedway, Ma & Pa station technically was all the same base fuel (different companies add different packages upon fill up like dyes and additives. But in essence it's all Mobil Fuel.
What I always find amazing is that people worry so much what they use in a $0-$20,000 motorcycle but that car they just spent $60,000 on they have no clue what oil the dealer, or service center uses. LOL
The rule of thumb is do not use oil with anti wear additive packages. Most automotive oil have these now, Diesel oils typically do not. Reason being is it could cause your clutch to slip. If we are talking a beta 4-Stroke or KTM 4-stroke where you have a clutch oil and a transmission oil you can run automotive on the transmission side and then whatever you want on the clutch side that doesn't have anti wear additives.
If you are so worried about the oil to use, stick with the manufacture who was paid by Motul (or whoever) to recommend their oil. That's the safe bet. If you understand how things are manufactured then don't be afraid to try other cheaper options.
Is that oil rated for the wet clutch...?You need a specific oil for a motorcycle with a wet clutch otherwise you'll burn the clutch plates...just saying...
ah the old oil debate and the fear to run Rotella. I will figure you are not in the US and maybe haven't heard of Rotella. I'll let you Google all about it. 100,000+ miles on my old Honda XR650R I think I'll stick with Rotella. It's made by Shell, even Shell says you can use it, around 5-10 years ago the got the T6 certified. The T5 failed only because of a higher ash content...but not because it won't work in motorcycles wet clutches.
How often do you need to do an oil change on this biker per the owners manual?
Per the owners manual? LOL There is no owners manual, oil is cheap...do it as often as you want. My old Honda XR650R I let it go 5,000-8,000 miles...I know I know it's a Honda though. Honestly in the 1065 miles on it now its had like 4 oil/filter changes...LOL I tend to overdo it though. This bike is for sale, $5,500 or best offer.
@@Meekerextreme I’ve got a 2023 YZ250FX and give that bike an oil change every 8 hours. I’m looking for a cheap ish Dual Sport to play around on with low Maintenance. Looks like I will just get that little 23HP KLX300. Thanks for replying.
LOL at the slow KLX300, that bike is like riding a stone age Flintstone vehicle
@@Meekerextreme That’s why I ride my YZ250. 40HP Baby
Yes, I test road the KLX...what a dog! Felt like a kids bike.@@Meekerextreme