I spent about $100.00 on two practice locks. The Revolver and the Ultimate Challenge. After watching this video early last week, I'm getting every penny's worth out of those locks. Thanks a lot.
Worth way more than the price of admission. I haven't seen every video on UA-cam, but I have never seen this topic covered so in depth. Thanks. I love to hear your thoughts about the theory of locks and their makeup.
Just made a video about a bunch of my failures with security pins... I didnt realise how the bitting is 50% of the equation.... you are so damned helpful that you beat me to this video!!!!! Love ya brotha....
Thanks for the kind words! This was honestly something I never though of when I was first starting out until theboredlockpicker pointed it out to me in this video: ua-cam.com/video/jJR0QnHAE_U/v-deo.html
Excellent video. I had saved this video in my library earlier but couldn't remember the details. Needed this info for placing my security pins. Thanks!!!
When you repin it with security pins using the numbers on the key itself like you seem to have done here does that mean you can still use the key once put back together?
You should be able too. The only time you wouldn't be able to would be if you had a very long keypin and used a very long driver pin and there was not enough room in the chamber. This is not likely to happen
I've seen that you should put a non-spool above at least one pin (so that the key goes in with everything aligned nicely). Is it safe to say that a serrated pin would serve that purpose (as a good alignment pin)?
Gilbert Wong I don't use them a lot but I usually treat them more like spools for pinning. Just never put a t pin in a lock with construction keying holes
Check out my most recent video [267] How To Optimize Spool Pin Placement ua-cam.com/video/pucv54RqRhY/v-deo.html I hope to cover some more down the road as well.
I see you didn't talk about serrated key pins which are, of course, common on American padlocks. I also seem to think spool pins are somewhat randomized and many times ineffective -- you can observe that on other picking videos and usually the picker will point it out. Nice explanation with great visuals of pin stacking
Thank you for the feedback and checking out the video! I wasn't sure how much detail I should go over in the one video but pointing out the serrated keypins is a good point, I will have to go over them in a future video :)
Are there stronger pins, like stainless steel pins... that prevent prying attacks? (when thieves break the pins themselves by inserting something in and twisting it)... I feel this is just as common, if not even more common, than just picking. Thank you for this video :)
Hello Great topic as are all your posts But Why does the pin numbering shown at 9:28 in to the video appears to be reversed?? The whole topic is also very pertanent to repining Kits (which often ignore the top pins completely!) So repinning key pins only could actually decrease the security of a lock by "de-optimizing" the existing top pins Or am I completely off base Thanks
Hi. Thanks for this series, I learned a lot. Is it possible for a (cheap) lock to get damaged by picking? I've got this cheapo lock I've been practicing on, and in the beginning it was susceptible to all the techniques of opening. However after a few days it's getting harder and harder to open it, even with SPP.
G3n7r0 cheap locks wear out faster it is possible your pins are getting worn down a little bit and becoming tougher to set. You could consider lubricating your lock. Also the springs could be getting worn. Lock picking is not easy on locks but I do not feel after two days it should do that much damage. What type of lock are you working on?
As best I can tell it's a cheap 5 (standard) pin lock, made in China. I threw away the packaging, the inscription on it says FOM Standard Line. I've got a couple of other locks (more expensive) I've been practicing on for months and haven't had this problem with . So either I'm getting worse at this, or the lock in question is of really bad manufacture :). I'll try using WD-40 on the offender.
I would try something silicone based like Lock Houdini or TriFlow. WD-40 is a degreaser and will not keep the lock lubed long term. However, it is a cheap lock and it is probably the lock and not you.
Very informative video as usual. My question is about pin sizes for different lock manufacturers, are they standardised, or do sizes vary from one company to another?
Thank you for the reply. So in universal pin kits, I assume there is just a large variety of lengths. How easy is it to take the measurements of pins and cross check to the size code each manufacturer uses?
@@alfie9486 the 0.003 universal kit goes up in increments of 0.003". You can find what each type of lock uses on the specification sheet from the manufacturer pretty easily
I would just go with what the manufacture says. I would have to look it up on Schlage. I personally use a key everyday where I fully utilizes the MACS and my key works well and the lock works well after years of use.
How's it going bro. I was looking through your videos and didn't see anything on dimple locks. Did you ever do one? Maybe I just missed it. Later my friend...
The only video I have is me picking my MTL Junior 4/5 pins. I have a MTL 7x7 I would like to do a video on but right now I am getting through regular pin and tumbler locks and will probably do something separate on them later.
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I spent about $100.00 on two practice locks. The Revolver and the Ultimate Challenge. After watching this video early last week, I'm getting every penny's worth out of those locks. Thanks a lot.
Scott Walker thank you for the kind words and I'm glad you are having fun :)
Worth way more than the price of admission. I haven't seen every video on UA-cam, but I have never seen this topic covered so in depth. Thanks. I love to hear your thoughts about the theory of locks and their makeup.
Barnett Bursley thank you for the kind words!
Your illustration of the different security pins and how they are used was very helpful and interesting! Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helped :-)
Well done. Yes, I agree. Most store bought locks are pinned up very random with not much thought. Unless they are high end.
Albert Lebel that's seems to be the case, I first started to notice it with American locks
Just made a video about a bunch of my failures with security pins... I didnt realise how the bitting is 50% of the equation.... you are so damned helpful that you beat me to this video!!!!! Love ya brotha....
Thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helped :) I'm also glad to see you making videos!
Yes. Can I buy a pinning kit and use it for different brand locks? Suggest a really wide variety kit.
Do these kits have security pins?
You can get a universal pinning kit and buy some spools and serrated separately
More great content. A lot of challenge lock makers will learn a lot from this :-)
Thanks for the kind words! This was honestly something I never though of when I was first starting out until theboredlockpicker pointed it out to me in this video: ua-cam.com/video/jJR0QnHAE_U/v-deo.html
Excellent video. I had saved this video in my library earlier but couldn't remember the details. Needed this info for placing my security pins. Thanks!!!
Thank you and I am glad this helps!
When you repin it with security pins using the numbers on the key itself like you seem to have done here does that mean you can still use the key once put back together?
You should be able too. The only time you wouldn't be able to would be if you had a very long keypin and used a very long driver pin and there was not enough room in the chamber. This is not likely to happen
I've seen that you should put a non-spool above at least one pin (so that the key goes in with everything aligned nicely). Is it safe to say that a serrated pin would serve that purpose (as a good alignment pin)?
A serrated pin would do a great job for that. Also, you want to put spool pins over the shorter key pins so they are more effective.
If I don't feel confident doing this (and I don't) can any locksmith add security pins to a lock?
Yes, it is a simple thing to do.
Great info, what about T pins? How are they used?
Gilbert Wong I don't use them a lot but I usually treat them more like spools for pinning.
Just never put a t pin in a lock with construction keying holes
Please show more on this topic and pin + key examples. Thanks for the education.
Check out my most recent video [267] How To Optimize Spool Pin Placement ua-cam.com/video/pucv54RqRhY/v-deo.html
I hope to cover some more down the road as well.
I see you didn't talk about serrated key pins which are, of course, common on American padlocks. I also seem to think spool pins are somewhat randomized and many times ineffective -- you can observe that on other picking videos and usually the picker will point it out. Nice explanation with great visuals of pin stacking
Thank you for the feedback and checking out the video! I wasn't sure how much detail I should go over in the one video but pointing out the serrated keypins is a good point, I will have to go over them in a future video :)
Are there stronger pins, like stainless steel pins... that prevent prying attacks? (when thieves break the pins themselves by inserting something in and twisting it)... I feel this is just as common, if not even more common, than just picking. Thank you for this video :)
Yes, some of the high security locks use them as anti drill pins
@@HelpfulLockPicker Thank you!
One of the most useful I've seen. Thanks
Sam III thank you for the kind words!
Once again, a very informative video...👍👍👍👍
Briarberrycove thank you for the kind words!
Hello
Great topic as are all your posts
But Why does the pin numbering shown at 9:28 in to the video appears to be reversed??
The whole topic is also very pertanent to repining Kits (which often ignore the top pins completely!)
So repinning key pins only could actually decrease the security of a lock by "de-optimizing" the existing top pins
Or am I completely off base
Thanks
It does not seem to be reversed to me. The pins are reading from right to left if that helps.
Excellent! Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words!
Great vid very informative
Thank you for the kind words!
Very great video
Thank you very much!
Hi. Thanks for this series, I learned a lot. Is it possible for a (cheap) lock to get damaged by picking? I've got this cheapo lock I've been practicing on, and in the beginning it was susceptible to all the techniques of opening. However after a few days it's getting harder and harder to open it, even with SPP.
G3n7r0 cheap locks wear out faster it is possible your pins are getting worn down a little bit and becoming tougher to set. You could consider lubricating your lock. Also the springs could be getting worn.
Lock picking is not easy on locks but I do not feel after two days it should do that much damage.
What type of lock are you working on?
As best I can tell it's a cheap 5 (standard) pin lock, made in China. I threw away the packaging, the inscription on it says FOM Standard Line.
I've got a couple of other locks (more expensive) I've been practicing on for months and haven't had this problem with . So either I'm getting worse at this, or the lock in question is of really bad manufacture :).
I'll try using WD-40 on the offender.
I would try something silicone based like Lock Houdini or TriFlow. WD-40 is a degreaser and will not keep the lock lubed long term. However, it is a cheap lock and it is probably the lock and not you.
Thanks for a fast and informative reply!
Very awesome explanation of this. Thank you.
Jeffrey Reindeer no problem, I'm glad it helped!
Very informative video as usual. My question is about pin sizes for different lock manufacturers, are they standardised, or do sizes vary from one company to another?
The diameter is standard for many locks but the length varies per manufacture
Thank you for the reply. So in universal pin kits, I assume there is just a large variety of lengths. How easy is it to take the measurements of pins and cross check to the size code each manufacturer uses?
@@alfie9486 the 0.003 universal kit goes up in increments of 0.003". You can find what each type of lock uses on the specification sheet from the manufacturer pretty easily
Thank you, loving the Home School videos by the way.
Very good explanation my friend! 👏👏😊👍
Thank you for the kind words frosty!
What about selection of different springs?
It helps and is worth playing with
What Maximum Adjacent Cut Specification would you recommend for everyday use in Schlage? Is 7 too steep, should I go with 6?
I would just go with what the manufacture says. I would have to look it up on Schlage. I personally use a key everyday where I fully utilizes the MACS and my key works well and the lock works well after years of use.
Great video, very informative!
Spyder thank you for the kind words!
How's it going bro. I was looking through your videos and didn't see anything on dimple locks. Did you ever do one? Maybe I just missed it. Later my friend...
The only video I have is me picking my MTL Junior 4/5 pins. I have a MTL 7x7 I would like to do a video on but right now I am getting through regular pin and tumbler locks and will probably do something separate on them later.
Cool, was just curious.
great info thanks for sharing.
Marty Hastings thank you for the kind words!