And don't forget that the collector just needed the power of friendship to be stopped. The thing that stopped bill from doing anything was getting DELETED, and getting sent to THERAPY.
@@goldenbunny-rc7mr yeah, which means bill wins automatically. Bill can just make a deal with him and since he's a kid, he would probably be gullible enough to trust him.
@@MajaHristovskacope, the only thing we've really seen golb do is fuse a bunch of banana guards and stuff together to make big monsters and turn the lich into a cube
@MajaHristovska like golb, bill is also an idea. Bill could also absorb souls, golb have only been around for a few billion years. Bill has probably consumed more souls cause he has lived for over a trillion years
The fact that he really beat a child😮. But tbh, they are all in the same collective universe, so if Bill can wipe the world every time except once probably he won every time against all the celectial entities (from Amphibia too). I know they connected by thing like Eda and Stanly marige and Amphimbia's Ann missing poster was shoen in toh (and in Amphibia we see Bill on the fucking frog box book),but it's still a fact that can be analyzed @tortellium3750
@@SeaGamin-gi watched and finished both shows , i assure you bill would win collectors feats were below universal level bill literally can erase time baby but he sent him to crash into the earth , the time baby is the literal guardian of space and time of the universe so collector gets no diffed by bill
Honestly this probably wouldn't even get to a fight sure bill wins hands down but he's also a trickster and does gather "friends" like his henchmaniacs the collectors pretty naive bill could easily get him in a deal and boom hes got a new pawn
Well here’s the main difference. The collector is a humanish cosmic being who can manipulate reality. However, he is bound by certain restraints due to the reality he was born in. Bill was born in a Two Dimensional realm know as the Toon Realm. He is literally a cartoon. A cartoon within a cartoon. As such he is bound by very few rules because he has toon power
In the book of Bill, his homeworld(Euclydia) is a 2d world and Bill has a deformity; one eye and the sight to perceive a 3d space. Before gaining physical form, his fight with Time Baby shook the nightmare realm, a byproduct of their fight.
Can we just take a step back please, everywhere I go I see Bill cipher vs this character or reality and he always wins but let's be honest we can't have our cake and eat it bill cipher may be powerful but he can't beat everybody that's just not how this works I mean bill literally gets deleted I mean when I write my stories I get it I want my characters to be on top to but I have to kill off characters whether that be permanently or temporarily and that doesn't stop with my villains I write some good villains but I still kill them off. So please do not over exaggerate bill ciphers power even to the tiniest degree (but I half agree with this)
Maybe a couple of the "Archivists" or the collecters older siblings may have a chance against bill since it's a fully grown celestial and are much more powerful but that's at least a few of them and that's a minimal chance
What about the archivist their basically like the collectors parents/older siblings that aren't childish and know what their doing and can legit stop someone from being revived
The Collector vs Bill-Bill (Manipulation does the trick) Discord vs Bill-Discord (Discord can manipulate reality and as long as chaos exists he can still live even if Bill were to destroy his physical form) Alastor vs Bill-Bill (manipulative, agile and slick but just one hit and hes over for good as seen in the fight with Adam) The Core vs Bill- Bill (The Core may be agile but is far more limited and vulnerable than Bill when it comes to inhabiting a body as it has to be connected to the person while Bill only needs acces to enter and its not something as easy to get rid of unless he wants to leave the body or this one is no longer usable to him) Black hat vs Bill-Black Hat (he's far smarter and more evil than Bill so he wouldn't fall prey to Bill's manipulations) Golb vs Bill- Golb (as seen how easy he manipulates reality and took out the lich)
I would disagree.for most of the show he needed a body to inhabit to trick people into doing anything which wa shis only option after gideon summoned him. And throught the corse of the show hes constantly getting outsmarted by the twins which themselves are children. And his powers had limits as well as he couldnt get past gravity falls- a very tiny town in Oregon for Armageddon in which he littersly died and was brought back to get trapped in therapy in which he has no hope of escape. Bill is only as strong as ypu let him be while the collector is powerful but inexperienced. In another thousand years im sure the collecter woth more time to practice his abilities would mop the floor with that dorito.
(sort of related to vid ig?) GOOD HALLOWEEN COSTUME IDEA FOR A DUO IF UR TOH FAN AND GF FAN: KING AND BILL. EASY. SAME VOICE ACTOR AND BOTH HAVE MENTALITY OF A GOOFY AND SILLY GUY FROM KEWL SHOWS.
nah I'd sing I know his pretty scene, girl I wish you could've seen her I know she got some problems But i don't wanna leave her And everytime i see her She makes me get this feeling It feels just like i am dreaming Gets me higher than the ceiling
I gotta remember the collector is a child for his creatures so we never saw the specie of the collector when grown up so they grown up could be much much more op
Tbh for most of the time the colllocter was sealed in the in between realm while bill is becoming stronger with each time passing and he makes deals taking their souls bill have way more experience
I also think its the mortality. The collector had a line to where they wernt comfortable with hurting people. Bill has no line. He knows what death and pain truly are, and understands them, yet still gives them out like candy
How I imagine the fight would go:Bill cypher sees the collector then tells him he could create a deal to give him anything he,Bill cypher would say he just needs a “puppet”bill cyphers hand catches on blue fire then they shake hands and bill cypher possesses the collected gaining more power
The reason I think Bill Cipher wins all the time is because he was *built* to be overpowered, unlike the Collector who was written with more prominent flaws. On a side note, I definitely think that The Owl House deserves as much praise as the Gravity Falls. I think both shows were executed amazingly and it disappoints me to see The Owl House not getting the credit it deserves.
I love the collector. That is my child. If anyone touches him, they will deal with me and I’m sorry Bill your reality bending will not save you because I will purposefully make a deal with you to go into my mind and watch absolute delight as you crumple before my feet by the absolute chaos And disorganized nonsense that is my brain I will specifically stop taking my ADHD meds to take you down bill because physically I may not be able to do much but mentally you’re in my hell😊 so while you could easily take down the collector, you would have to deal with me. I promise you it wouldn’t be worth it because you see Bill most people can see shit in their brain. I can only hear and get phantom sensations so you will get to be in complete darkness so you will be hearing cotton eye, Joe random words being repeated several other songs and feeling and smelling everything try me bill
And don't forget that the collector just needed the power of friendship to be stopped. The thing that stopped bill from doing anything was getting DELETED, and getting sent to THERAPY.
Its because collector is a kid
@@goldenbunny-rc7mr yeah, which means bill wins automatically. Bill can just make a deal with him and since he's a kid, he would probably be gullible enough to trust him.
@@meltedchees its very easy to do a deal with collector you just need to play hide and seek with he and he will do anything you want
not even therapy, psych ward
@@goldenbunny-rc7mrHe may look like a Kid but I think he's much older than that😅.
The real question is golb from adventure time vs bill
A being of pure chaos that takes no sh*t and a little sh*t that loves chaos😂
Now that would be an interesting match up 👀👀👀
Golb wins
@@the_chestnut_tanuki I'm sorry but this isn't even close
Golb is what bill ASPIRES to be, golb is basically bills dream form
@@MajaHristovskacope, the only thing we've really seen golb do is fuse a bunch of banana guards and stuff together to make big monsters and turn the lich into a cube
@MajaHristovska like golb, bill is also an idea. Bill could also absorb souls, golb have only been around for a few billion years. Bill has probably consumed more souls cause he has lived for over a trillion years
Putting Bill Cipher up against The Collector is like putting a grown ass man up against a toddler and calling it a fair fight.
I mean everyone is talking abt it
Couching baby VS Hydrogen bomb
@@Lionel09_literally Time Baby vs Bill Cipher
The fact that he really beat a child😮.
But tbh, they are all in the same collective universe, so if Bill can wipe the world every time except once probably he won every time against all the celectial entities (from Amphibia too).
I know they connected by thing like Eda and Stanly marige and Amphimbia's Ann missing poster was shoen in toh (and in Amphibia we see Bill on the fucking frog box book),but it's still a fact that can be analyzed
@tortellium3750
@@tortellium3750 in the real show bill destroyed him.
Centuries? Bill been alive for trillions of years 😭🙏
Which is _a lot_ of centuries :D
1 000 000 000 012 years, to be precise
Trillion of centuries
He even says “For one trillion years I’ve been trapped in my own decaying dimension.”
Please leave Collector alone, is just a child. Please dont give him nightmares, if he met Bill he would get nightmares
I’ll give him nightmares….
Bill can collect his teeth and rearrange it
Bill ain’t winning he selling he lost to 2 mortals
@@SeaGamin-gi watched and finished both shows , i assure you bill would win
collectors feats were below universal level
bill literally can erase time baby but he sent him to crash into the earth , the time baby is the literal guardian of space and time of the universe
so collector gets no diffed by bill
Cipher can literally snap his fingers and a random dimension will burn, explode or anything. Bill solos
Honestly this probably wouldn't even get to a fight sure bill wins hands down but he's also a trickster and does gather "friends" like his henchmaniacs the collectors pretty naive bill could easily get him in a deal and boom hes got a new pawn
Now I really want to see a fanfic where Bill Cipher manipulates the Collector and that he becomes his second in command
And a decently strong pawn at that
@@kingnoob-c5v omg we got the REAL bill ciphers opinion on the matter
She literally says that at the end of the short
I think bill cipher and collector can be friends
Ye, I think so.
Bill cipher is Adult and collector is Child
@@DrFebafriends not bf😅
The collector literally MADE STARS SHOOT AROUND THE SKY JUST FOR FUN
But i agree bill wins
Two celestial beings that lived for centuries? Bill's trillions of years old!
Well here’s the main difference. The collector is a humanish cosmic being who can manipulate reality. However, he is bound by certain restraints due to the reality he was born in. Bill was born in a Two Dimensional realm know as the Toon Realm. He is literally a cartoon. A cartoon within a cartoon. As such he is bound by very few rules because he has toon power
Oh my fucking god I only realised NOW Bill's Two Dimensional realm is a cartoon realm
Is that cannon tho?
@@bpanda5047 I’m not 100% certain but I’m pretty sure it is. If you find out otherwise let me know!
In the book of Bill, his homeworld(Euclydia) is a 2d world and Bill has a deformity; one eye and the sight to perceive a 3d space. Before gaining physical form, his fight with Time Baby shook the nightmare realm, a byproduct of their fight.
Cosmic diety vs coughing cosmic baby
The true question is, Bill vs Curious George
LMAOO we already know the winner 👀👀👀
George solos
@@Nerdonardo-1 fr
BILL is the eater of gods and souls
And lost to two 12 year old twins
I understand it was a 1/ ♾️
@@thewildkiki1567 that was pure luck and grunkle quick witt
@@thewildkiki1567 in 1 out of BILLIONS of universes, our Gravity Falls was the ONLY one where the twins survived and won against Bill.
Also Bill has the good ol’ “Fuck everything in that general direction move”
Let’s get real rn
Bill Cipher vs. Discord from MLP
Bill literally disentagrated the physical embodyment of time with a single laser and barley any effort
Oh snap he just killed time baby!
The collector: BILL I WILL KILL YOU
Bill: OK THEN HOW ABOUT THIS, *BOOM!* (destroys him in one tap)
Can we just take a step back please, everywhere I go I see Bill cipher vs this character or reality and he always wins but let's be honest we can't have our cake and eat it bill cipher may be powerful but he can't beat everybody that's just not how this works I mean bill literally gets deleted I mean when I write my stories I get it I want my characters to be on top to but I have to kill off characters whether that be permanently or temporarily and that doesn't stop with my villains I write some good villains but I still kill them off. So please do not over exaggerate bill ciphers power even to the tiniest degree (but I half agree with this)
Even if their powers were even, bill would win because the collector is a child and can easily be tricked
A demonic creature feared across the multiverse .V.S. Your little cousin?
I mean bill killed the time baby so ain’t nothing standing in his way
Maybe a couple of the "Archivists" or the collecters older siblings may have a chance against bill since it's a fully grown celestial and are much more powerful but that's at least a few of them and that's a minimal chance
What about the archivist their basically like the collectors parents/older siblings that aren't childish and know what their doing and can legit stop someone from being revived
I definitely agree about the collector because he is exactly what bill needs to win, but the archivists might stand a chance as well?😊❤
Like they're all adults who r not good guys but probably would kill bill because of his power
Like I know they're villans but they would kill bill for having power so he couldn't manipulate them easily
with this Treasure I summon Eight-Handled Sword Divergent Sila Divine General, Mahoraga!
The Collector vs Bill-Bill (Manipulation does the trick)
Discord vs Bill-Discord (Discord can manipulate reality and as long as chaos exists he can still live even if Bill were to destroy his physical form)
Alastor vs Bill-Bill (manipulative, agile and slick but just one hit and hes over for good as seen in the fight with Adam)
The Core vs Bill- Bill (The Core may be agile but is far more limited and vulnerable than Bill when it comes to inhabiting a body as it has to be connected to the person while Bill only needs acces to enter and its not something as easy to get rid of unless he wants to leave the body or this one is no longer usable to him)
Black hat vs Bill-Black Hat (he's far smarter and more evil than Bill so he wouldn't fall prey to Bill's manipulations)
Golb vs Bill- Golb (as seen how easy he manipulates reality and took out the lich)
kirby vs bill- Kirby-(as seen in how he has fought death and Fecto Elfilis the ultimate life form)
@@LemonHIVEnow I want to see Kirby Cipher hat.
Bill could probably win without a physical form too lol
Poor enzo gabriel 😢
Bill cipher vs Kirby...... KIRBY F-CKING WINS EVEN SEARCH IT IN UA-cam I PROMISE YALL
if bill gets a physical form your basically in his domain expansion
I would disagree.for most of the show he needed a body to inhabit to trick people into doing anything which wa shis only option after gideon summoned him.
And throught the corse of the show hes constantly getting outsmarted by the twins which themselves are children. And his powers had limits as well as he couldnt get past gravity falls- a very tiny town in Oregon for Armageddon in which he littersly died and was brought back to get trapped in therapy in which he has no hope of escape. Bill is only as strong as ypu let him be while the collector is powerful but inexperienced. In another thousand years im sure the collecter woth more time to practice his abilities would mop the floor with that dorito.
Now.
A good question is, how about bill VS The collectors brothers. Or peers
(sort of related to vid ig?) GOOD HALLOWEEN COSTUME IDEA FOR A DUO IF UR TOH FAN AND GF FAN: KING AND BILL. EASY. SAME VOICE ACTOR AND BOTH HAVE MENTALITY OF A GOOFY AND SILLY GUY FROM KEWL SHOWS.
The collector is also a kid that doesn’t know much
nah I'd sing
I know his pretty scene, girl
I wish you could've seen her
I know she got some problems
But i don't wanna leave her
And everytime i see her
She makes me get this feeling
It feels just like i am dreaming
Gets me higher than the ceiling
Bill is easily one of the strongest characters in fiction his power only being outmatched by the axolotl who we know almost nothing about
Discord vs bill cypher next plss!!!❤
"Oh no, a tantrum. Whatever will I do about tha- HOW ABOUT THIS?! BOOM!"
Your pfp explains this perfectly
He IS....a child....that's the point😂
And Bill is a one trillion year old pre-teen
@@neutralplayeroflol5722 shis
Didn't Bill said that going inside a child's mind is extremelly dangerous and even him is afraid of that?
@xianmarcote3484 Is just not entering the mind
i feel like bill would be like a grunkle to the collector instead of an enemy lmfao
The collector:what you ganna do?
Bill:how bout THIS BOOOM
As somebody who has never watched the Owl House, I can confirm that the collector looks like a child with cool face paint
I gotta remember the collector is a child for his creatures so we never saw the specie of the collector when grown up so they grown up could be much much more op
I love how everyone forgets about bill cypers weakness to emotional damage
Tbh for most of the time the colllocter was sealed in the in between realm while bill is becoming stronger with each time passing and he makes deals taking their souls bill have way more experience
Comparing a mine to a intercontinental ballistic missile is like this comparison
Bro why don't i see anyone talking about the typo in the title💀💀💀
Someone call Ben 10
We have Rouge Dorito here
😂
Okay, hear me out.
Dante (or Vergil) from dmc solos Bill imo
I feel like bill would just play with the collector and it would be adorable
I feel like he would dismember him. It would be adorable
The collector has morals
Bill cipher: if you give me your soul you’ll get robux
I also think its the mortality. The collector had a line to where they wernt comfortable with hurting people. Bill has no line. He knows what death and pain truly are, and understands them, yet still gives them out like candy
Bill cipher in collector's body is overpowered.
Bill killed a godly time baby
Bill would destroy them all.i like toh but it’s not even close
Toh is one of my faves but the collector is getting no diffed 😭
How I imagine the fight would go:Bill cypher sees the collector then tells him he could create a deal to give him anything he,Bill cypher would say he just needs a “puppet”bill cyphers hand catches on blue fire then they shake hands and bill cypher possesses the collected gaining more power
Remember, bill killed time baby.
Bill vs goku, curiosity took over
The reason I think Bill Cipher wins all the time is because he was *built* to be overpowered, unlike the Collector who was written with more prominent flaws. On a side note, I definitely think that The Owl House deserves as much praise as the Gravity Falls. I think both shows were executed amazingly and it disappoints me to see The Owl House not getting the credit it deserves.
Your forgetting bills ego would be tarnished by a knock knock joke
His cartoonish level of power is unreal 😩
Bill cipher is way too op
Love how the title is, BILL CIPHER VS THR CREATOR
THR - 1000 EARTHMOVER
Centuries? Bill Cipher has lived for over a trillion years.
The collector is just a kid and he has no limits when he gets older
Plot twist theyre actually besties
It would be so easy for bill to make a deal with the collector, too.
Bro he rick roll us with Sesame Street, he won in every single universe besides the one we saw
The collector barely reaches above world threatening level of power, while Bill Cypher is a multiverse level threat
It's been a while since I've heard fly day Chinatown
Everyone: bill vs the collector
Me: what if bill was the collector's dad-💥
he accidentally destroyed his own reality.
The collector is getting cooked 😂
Collecter is misunderstood bill is a maniac crazy insane god of weirdness and chaos can come into the weird world
The collector is there bc they have magic that’s like one of the reasons random characters get put here
imagine bill cypher takes the collectors body
When he was soos was the best
I love the collector. That is my child. If anyone touches him, they will deal with me and I’m sorry Bill your reality bending will not save you because I will purposefully make a deal with you to go into my mind and watch absolute delight as you crumple before my feet by the absolute chaos And disorganized nonsense that is my brain I will specifically stop taking my ADHD meds to take you down bill because physically I may not be able to do much but mentally you’re in my hell😊 so while you could easily take down the collector, you would have to deal with me. I promise you it wouldn’t be worth it because you see Bill most people can see shit in their brain. I can only hear and get phantom sensations so you will get to be in complete darkness so you will be hearing cotton eye, Joe random words being repeated several other songs and feeling and smelling everything try me bill
LMAOOO
You really love the collector 😅
Sorry bro bill cipher solos
@@bpanda5047 he is my child. He is small bean
@@RyanMrmustachiolo I would really like to see Bill try by all means if he can survive my brain he can have it. I just don’t think he can.
bill would wipe the floor with the entire owl house verse
Don't forget he destroyed TIME BABY
atomic bomb vs coughing baby
Don't forget. Bill has toon force. and not that normal one. he has THE toon force
Dude, Bill Cipher practically solos everyone 💀
Ok bill vs the archivists
"Hey kid if you give me 50% of your powers I'll play hide and seek with you"
Collector:" *Deal* "
Somehow I read that in both their voices 😭
@@spencylolmaybe because of the pfp
Bill is multiversal. The collector is universal
But Bill got beat up bye a couple of 12 Year olds
Maybe if the collector was an adult and knew more about their power, then we can have a conversation lol
Not me thinking the collector was Moondrop from fnaf 😭
I used to call Bill cipher the dollar bill man
HA
Let's just hope that bill wont make a deal with the collector otherwise it would be a disaster if the collecter accepted👀
The collector is a child with the powers of a cosmic being, bill cypher is a cosmic DEMON
Crazy how both of them still somehow get clapped by Kirby😭
Depends on circumstances. Post ending collector is getting WHOOPED, but after the time skip... He got a chance thats above 20%
Hmm... doubt it. He cant viably destroy bill
Bill Cipher vs The Collector vs Sonic.exe
Now for the more important question, who would win? Bill or Kirby? I say Kirby wins easily.
Even including the fact bill destroyed time baby
What I want to know is what would happen if Alaster (hazbin hotel) and Bill cipher (gravity falls) made a deal
Even if bill solos, still crazy to think he just lost to like, 12 kids, hopes, and dreams 😭😭😭
(in 1/∞ realities)
His downfall was his ego. He lost not because he defeated him, but outsmarted him