Richard Dawkins & Deepak Chopra (Sub) | El Encuentro del Siglo | CDI 2013 Dangerous Ideas
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2013
- Diálogo entre el multipremiado científico Richard Dawkins con el famoso escritor y médico Deepak Chopra sobre si existe un propósito en el universo, si la religión es buena o mala para la humanidad y la relación entre la ciencia y la espiritualidad. Siendo ambos científicos de formación tienen diferentes resultados y diferentes formas para explicar la ciencia. También, la plática por un lado aborda problemáticas ligadas a la ciencia y su metodología frente a los fenómenos de la conciencia y el misticismo, el origen de la vida, el universo y el lenguaje y, por el otro, la espiritualidad y sus problemas del lenguaje y la confusión que puede conducir.
Richard Dawkins:
Richard Dawkins (Miembro exclusivo de la Real Sociedad de Londres, Fellow of the Royal Society, FRS) fue profesor "Charles Simonyi" de la Cátedra de la Comprensión Pública de la Ciencia (Public Understanding of Science) de la Universidad de Oxford hasta su retiro en el 2008.
Hizo su doctorado en Oxford bajo el ganador del Premio Nobel, el zoólogo Niko Tinbergen. Es autor de doce libros como: El gen egoísta (The Selfish Gene), El fenotipo extendido (The Extended Phenotype), Destejiendo el arcoiris (Unweaving the Rainbow), El capellán del diablo (A Devil's Chaplain), El cuento del antepasado: un viaje a los albores de la evolución (The Ancestor's Tale), El espejismo de Dios (The God Delusion) y Evolución. El mayor espectáculo sobre la Tierra (The Greatest Show on Earth).
Deepak Chopra:
Es el creador de la Fundación Chopra y, cofundador y Jefe del Centro Chopra de Wellbeing en Carlsbad, California. Es cronista para San Francisco Chronicle y The Washington Post, y contribuye regularmente con Oprah.com, Intent.com y The Huffington Post.
Chopra es conocido por ser un prolífico autor de más de 75 libros, con 21 bestselles de The New York Times, tanto de relatos de ficción como obras ensayísticas. Los libros del Dr. Chopra han sido publicados en más de 35 idiomas. Sus últimos bestsellers incluyen Súper Cerebro: Nuevos avances para maximizar la salud, felicidad y bienestar (Super Brain: Unleashing the Explosive Power of your Mind to maximize Health, Happiness, and Spiritual Well Being), Guerra de dos mundos (War of the Worldviews), Reinventa tu cuerpo, resucita tu alma (Reinventing the Body, Resurrecting the Soul) y Soluciones espirituales (Spiritual Solutions - Answers To Life's Greatest Problems).
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La Ciudad de las Ideas es un Festival Internacional de Mentes Brillantes con sede en la ciudad de Puebla, México. Andrés Roemer, Presidente de Poder Cívico A.C., es el audaz curador del festival. - Наука та технологія
That thing at the start made me check if I clicked on the right video.
I thought I was the only who saw that. What the fuck was that doing right before a debate about God?
🤣🤣🤣
Black Sheep - The whole idea was to whip the crowd into a frenzy - rather like a charismatic preacher - all hot air .
I thought that was quite funny but didn't understant either ^^
That dude dangling down slowly looked like he had no clue what he was doing lolol.
“Sometimes I start a sentence and I don’t even know where it’s going to end up”
-Michael Scott
- Deepak Chopra
joe biden
That's very comedically humourous man
chopra in a nutshell
😂😂😂 love a good office reference
Really hit the nail on the head there 👍
1:02:59 “A good metaphor is one that clarifies and does not obscure” - what priceless words 👏🏼
Not necessarily, not necessarily. A good metaphor may take you out of the intellect and to a different realm, realm of feelings and ... .. more
Dawkins´ definition of a metaphor is only words. Chopra beat him from beginning to end. What Dawkins called jargon was backed by those many scientists Chopra named: Nobel Prize winner Roger Penrose, Lawrence Krauss and other world famous physicists.
@@abelochoa584 shut up, talking nonsense 🤣🤣🤣 my guys tryna say atoms are conscious, and you agree👀🤣🤣 embarrassing
FOR YOU SIR
Good News but not common knowledge
Mr Josh Timonen helped Richard Dawkins with his website and he also helped him produce documentaries and sell merchandise. Josh Timonen had been Richard Dawkins right hand man for many years and for this loyalty, Richard gave special thanks to Josh in his book “God Delusion” published 2nd Oct 2006, another invention of Richard’s carrying no substance but his opinions, fancies and whims, he further dedicated another book to him called “The Greatest Show on Earth” published on the 3rd Sept 2009. Richard’s interpretation of life.
Mr Josh Timonen has today become a born again believer in Jesus Christ, this must have really hurt Richard Dawkins and his crusade against the God he hates without a legitimate cause. How that his books could not capture the heart of Josh, but when he truly came under the sound of the gospel, he became broken in heart and spirit giving his heart to the Lord. The Bible is the book of life. In the parable of the wheat and tares the servant came to the land owner saying did you not sow good seed upon your land, how is it that there are tares among the wheat. The Master said an enemy hath done this. The servant said shall I pull up the tares from among the wheat. The Master said wisely, let both grow together until harvest, lest you pull up some of the wheat with the tares. Josh Timonen appeared to be a tare but turned out to be wheat. Let us continue to pray for Richard Dawkins, that he will repent, for it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God!
The Bible can seriously damage your health, so if you are an atheist or agnostic, don’t go near it as its truth is eternal in duration when it comes to spiritual truth manifested in the life of Jesus. Josh now believes in loving God and loving his neighbour as himself. What a wonderful change in his life has been wrought since Jesus came into his heart.
The Bible is the book that the Chinese Communist Part fears more than any other book, because it tells the truth. The North Korean Communist Party fear the Bible, the Russian fear the Bible, in-fact all false religions fear the Bible and its content, because there is power in the loving words of Jesus to change lives. No other religion teaches thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all of your heart, mind, soul, spirit and strength and thou shalt love thy neighbour as thy self. Jesus went further, if you want to be disciples of mine, then you must love your enemies, and as we abide in Jesus daily he enables us to love our enemies, something we could not do in the natural, but when the supernatural is allowed to be imposed on the natural then we are changed into new creatures in Christ. This is why Christians are persecuted and imprisoned for distributing Bibles and preaching the gospel of God’s love and wisdom through Jesus Christ. Fear paralyses communist countries and all false man- made religions.
In short people are afraid of the Bible otherwise they would leave Christians alone. Many people read the Bible to find fault with it! A Pharisee named Ga-ma’liel a doctor of the law gave sound advice to the religious hierarchy in Jerusalem saying: Refrain from these men, and let them alone, for if this council or work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God [Acts 5:38-39]. What sound advice but they didn’t take heed. It is still the same today. Satanists in their temples and those involved witchcraft burn Bibles on a regular basis because of its contents. The devil and demons are consumed by great fear because they know that their time is short. The prophetic word will be fulfilled despite all the sufferings of Christians who have taken up the cross and followed Jesus to eternal glory.
I've never heard so many words spoken with such authority but with absolutely no meaning or truth behind them. Well done for developing such a skill, Deepak.
Dawkins expressions are priceless when Deepak talks...
Laughing my head off...
@Nisha chambiyal
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Good News but not common knowledge
Mr Josh Timonen helped Richard Dawkins with his website and he also helped him produce documentaries and sell merchandise. Josh Timonen had been Richard Dawkins right hand man for many years and for this loyalty, Richard gave special thanks to Josh in his book “God Delusion” published 2nd Oct 2006, another invention of Richard’s carrying no substance but his opinions, fancies and whims, he further dedicated another book to him called “The Greatest Show on Earth” published on the 3rd Sept 2009. Richard’s interpretation of life.
Mr Josh Timonen has today become a born again believer in Jesus Christ, this must have really hurt Richard Dawkins and his crusade against the God he hates without a legitimate cause. How that his books could not capture the heart of Josh, but when he truly came under the sound of the gospel, he became broken in heart and spirit giving his heart to the Lord. The Bible is the book of life. In the parable of the wheat and tares the servant came to the land owner saying did you not sow good seed upon your land, how is it that there are tares among the wheat. The Master said an enemy hath done this. The servant said shall I pull up the tares from among the wheat. The Master said wisely, let both grow together until harvest, lest you pull up some of the wheat with the tares. Josh Timonen appeared to be a tare but turned out to be wheat. Let us continue to pray for Richard Dawkins, that he will repent, for it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God!
The Bible can seriously damage your health, so if you are an atheist or agnostic, don’t go near it as its truth is eternal in duration when it comes to spiritual truth manifested in the life of Jesus. Josh now believes in loving God and loving his neighbour as himself. What a wonderful change in his life has been wrought since Jesus came into his heart.
The Bible is the book that the Chinese Communist Part fears more than any other book, because it tells the truth. The North Korean Communist Party fear the Bible, the Russian fear the Bible, in-fact all false religions fear the Bible and its content, because there is power in the loving words of Jesus to change lives. No other religion teaches thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all of your heart, mind, soul, spirit and strength and thou shalt love thy neighbour as thy self. Jesus went further, if you want to be disciples of mine, then you must love your enemies, and as we abide in Jesus daily he enables us to love our enemies, something we could not do in the natural, but when the supernatural is allowed to be imposed on the natural then we are changed into new creatures in Christ. This is why Christians are persecuted and imprisoned for distributing Bibles and preaching the gospel of God’s love and wisdom through Jesus Christ. Fear paralyses communist countries and all false man- made religions.
In short people are afraid of the Bible otherwise they would leave Christians alone. Many people read the Bible to find fault with it! A Pharisee named Ga-ma’liel a doctor of the law gave sound advice to the religious hierarchy in Jerusalem saying: Refrain from these men, and let them alone, for if this council or work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God [Acts 5:38-39]. What sound advice but they didn’t take heed. It is still the same today. Satanists in their temples and those involved witchcraft burn Bibles on a regular basis because of its contents. The devil and demons are consumed by great fear because they know that their time is short. The prophetic word will be fulfilled despite all the sufferings of Christians who have taken up the cross and followed Jesus to eternal glory.
Nothing is as laughable as Christianity
42:20 Dawkins: "I shall not make an argument ad hominem. My argument is ad bullshitem." Priceless.
I know, yet his 'blood pressure' according to the snake oil salesman was needing to come down.
I think Chopra likes to hear Himself talk.
@@Jessiejam-44 Every word he utters is to form the audience, picking up on the slightest thing and forming his argument as it goes on.. Like George Galloway and all other DEmagogues, Alex Jones for that matter.. demagogues..
“Ad Ridiculum” fallacy demonstration
ad bullshitem, actually proves that, Dawkin was using ad hominem fallacy of science 101 yet again, and your liking it proves your love for abusing opponent because you know you cannot defeat him.
Each word Prof Dawkins says is so well thought out. Not a word wasted.
That is because you are not capable enough to understand the higher materials. If I talk to a little kid do you like 1 ice cream or 2 ice creams, they understand that but If I am talking about How to add up Balance sheet of corporate organizations they blank out.
It's ironic that the people who believe in mystical and magical things are more like the kid who enjoy and cares about ice cream while the actual scientists know how to "add up balance sheet of corporate organizations".@@confidential303
A lovely sight every morning
Every day I see a lovely sight: little girls and boys with their hats and coats on, holding mum’s hand and thus trusting them for guidance on the way to school. They also trust teachers for their education; that they are being taught Facts in each subject. These little children deserve to be taught the truth and not be indoctrinated with Darwinian Evolution. I have studied evolution for many years in the various fields of science, and you can trust me; that there is no credible evidence for the theory. I keep up to date with all the major developments. It is a bottomless pit; full of hidden assumptions which the general public are not privy too. Evolution is a library of theories trying to rescue the main theory continually; without much success may I add.
Educating these young lives with this fundamental extremism will lead them down a path of self- destruction; into an immoral lifestyle. The truth is evolution is a Faith; not part of science. It is committing academic murder to teach that evolution is a Fact of science. It is robbing them of GOD-CONSCIOUSNESS. That is searing their conscience with a hot-iron to the reality of what is truly right and what is wrong. At best, evolution is a religious faith and should be treated as such in schools in relation to religious education. Am I your enemy because I tell you the truth I trust not?
Indeed. Deepak, on the other hand, dishes out an incoherent word salad and resorts to ad hominem attacks when he runs out of remotely coherent things to say. What a charlatan!!
I have no respect for him because he disregards, ignores and suppresses evidences against evolution that call it into question.
Genesis chapters 1- 11 is recorded in Chinese pictographs which are silent witnesses of events, these are rather like fingerprints of historical facts that took place, being historical in character not forgeries. Evolutionists believe everything is a forgery if it calls evolution into question, we must not go against this world religion of Darwinian Origins for it is a sacred cow. We must ignore, suppress and disregard any evidence that calls evolution into question. The pictographic clues to our ancient past have remained in hidden view for thousands of years. There is evidence of antiquity which is undeniable, but evolutionists will always remain arrogant and defiant to the reality of this evidence. The question is: Where did the Chinese picture concepts come from? Concepts that are memorialized in ancient Chinese pictographs and why do these figures match the Genesis account. Many Chinese people who were former communists have recognized the historical account in Genesis in their pictographic ancient language and have turned to Christ for salvation, knowing that their for bearers had knowledge of their migration from the Tower of Babel. These are just three pictographs as examples and there are others for those who want to do their own research. Noah’s Flood is mentioned in pictographic evidence particularly where the symbol for eight is concerned, because eight persons entered the Ark. It doesn’t matter what evidence points towards Creation, fall, Flood and redemption through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, evolutionists as goats will still head-butt the evidence, such as andesite stones carved with dinosaurs on them found in Nazca tombs in the desert with patina on them which takes thousands of years to form, speaking of antiquity. Dr Dennis Swift through this evidence he discovered doing excavations, turned him 360 degrees from an evolutionist to a creationist. Dinosaur figurines which are quite numerous in Mexico were studied by Dr Don Patton and were found to be genuine. See you-tube. The evidence is clear that the indigenous Indians lived alongside dinosaurs a few thousand years ago. They did not die out 65 million years ago, this is purely a religious concept.
The Turin Shroud depicting Jesus crucified was produced, when the fire of God’s presence raised him from the dead, leaving a negative impression on the shroud which scientists have tried to reproduce, in order to prove it a forgery. When the Lord’s body was exposed to God’s light, just like film being exposed in a camera to light, it produced a negative. In all these things God has not left us without his divine witness of events.
I need Deepak Chopra's confidence when he talks about random shit that he doesn't have a clue on.
What I can tell you is that all that D.Chopra says is in keeping with Kant and Plato and most certainly all of the Vedas, particularly Vedanta. It is a true expression of Non-duality of the wisdom traditions This, in turn, is in keepig with both quantum physics and metaphysics. Mr. Chopra is speaking of ontology and epistemology. Mr. Dawkins has restricted himself to empirical materialism, only. Much kindness.
@@dumont-art3971 - Plato had been proven wrong on virtually everything what he said. He was big in the past, but he's mostly irrelevant in the modern day. Neither you, nor Chopra have any idea what "quantum leap" means. Also, there's no such a thing s "quantum shift".
@@S_Bellew @Vadim Ivanchenko Dear me. If you can explain me any of what Plato was talking about, perhaps we could go further with the conversation. In general we are talking about epistemology and ontology Vadim. Who, if you don't mind me asking, would you or forward as an exemplar of superior understanding of metaphysics - Immanuel Kant? Hegel? Deepak Chopra is putting forward understandings which are in keeping with these peoples discussions.
@@S_Bellew Metaphysics does not become 'irrelevant' Vadim. The reason for this is that if is an explanation of the 'timeless'. It is knowledge of true Being, true Knowing. It is experience of the Eternally True. This does not, we might, very humbly say, change with time. Rather, is it not so, the 'ever-changing' goes on ad infinitum. This, in the ancient traditions, is known as Mara, maya or prakrti. We might also call it 'flux'.
@@S_Bellew Plato, for example, was talking about the 'figures on the wall of a cave', saying that all most of us see, are the dancing shadows as the fire lights up the figures. To really see truth, or Reason, we need to Go Beyond the illusion. How do we do this? According to Kant, Schopenhauer and Deepak Chopra, we must transcend the mundane. How do we do this? This is the domain of metaphysics. As stated, Mr.Dawkins is keeping to 'nice little, safe,' empirical-reductionist ' science'. I mean no ill will to Mr. Dawkins or to yourself, however, I must highlight that towering majesty of metaphysics over 'sense-based' reductive techniques.
"Chopras hair has awareness and the ability to curl itself" - Freeman Dyson.
Hahahahahaha!
i don’t think he said that he should sue you
@@donkaler213 welcome to Internet!
@@rafaelgonzalezj u clearly didn't watch the video then😂
Rafael González
Bro that’s what Dawkins said in this debate. Donkaler is joking.
Deepak demonstrates the Theory of Devolution.
I think he is a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect
Marc Driscoll was reading a quote about how people have their feelings hurt and complain about anything by Spurgeon. And says. "That's B.B before blogging. Totally different epoch in human devolution."
It boggles the mind... How can a mind like his have survived for so long lol...
dawkins was talking facts, but chopra was talking ideas--don`t compare the two
@@bullymaguire2061 The answer is,.....money.
The takeaway I got from this is just because science hasn't answered all the mysteries of the universe, doesn't give another faction the right to interject their particular guesses and call it a day.
you need to watch more theological debates, pretty much that every time.
Sums it up pretty accurately.
Excellent comments and arguments by Richard Dawkins.
By both of them .
Respect for Dawkins for being patient...
much respect
They were both patient.
@@r4h4al Chopra wasn't, because Dawkins at least knows how to make a point.
Dawkins is several lvls bellow Deepak inteligence, and the fact he does not respect the amazing Deepaks insights, drops him a few lvls more, or maybe he is doing his part on purpose for the debate. Dawkins logic -> "you have spoken "Word Salad Jargon" ,"ad bullshitem" . I have proven your argument wrong. " Then he claims to be all Scientific . LOL
@@badtuber1654 "Dawkins is several lvls bellow Deepak inteligence" LOL
When Chopra speaks, I get the illusion that I understand what he is saying. When Dawkins speaks, I know that I understand what he is saying.
Chopra likes to hear Himself talk.
It is easy to say what folk already believe, but that doesn't mean those beliefs are correct.
It is harder, but more profitable to challenge existing beliefs
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The very definition of casuistry .
That his, I say with kindness, because he speaks in the most base form. hHe speaks of the very averages of human experience. He speaks nothing of Knowledge or Gnosis.
Both are great minds, and the moderator is interesting. It was a very entertaining debate (even though it might not be the best format considering the participants' personality). Mr. Chopra is an accomplished professional who has successfully merged science with spirituality and has used it to help many people worldwide. He makes knowledge and understanding accessible. The topics he covers are not easily understood (or communicated) by most. It does require 'leap of faith' at times, especially where gaps are available in scientific basis; He calls them quantum jump and does use this word in many ways. I do not find it confusing or mumbo-jumbo because a curious and unbiased mind does understand what he means with the word 'quantum' in any context.
Mr. Dawkins is one of the best scientists alive today who is brutally honest. It is his strength, and it makes him a perfect candidate to be suited for scientific questions. He uses bottoms up approach (perfectly suited for a scientist) and discards everything that he cannot understand/explain in a rational way. He is afraid of falling in the trap of false-understanding and that is why he is a militant debater, to the extent that he exhibits contempt towards others who make assumptions while trying to give a whole picture of something that still has scientific gaps.
Both are different temperament people. While Mr. Chopra has a welcoming approach to different perspectives, Mr. Dawkins is very rigid in what he wants to hear in a debate. Overall, I find Mr. Hawkins to be a great scientist but the worst debater. Mr. Chopra, on the other hand, does sound like a fake at times (making things up to fill the gaps), but on deeper analysis we find his assumptions to be the best possible answer. The best part is that Mr. Chopra is always open to others in filling those gaps with more scientific evidence. Personally, I like Mr. Chopra's approach.
Thanks for sharing this whole video. I've previously seen only clips taken out of context and it was nice to finally see the whole discussion.
Deepak thinks "If you can't convince a person, confuse him"
Confuse with heavy words and scientific terms
exactly... pure gibberish!!!!!!
Are you Shure that is not just a part of the people that don't understand what is he saying? Does for exple the term "ego death" or "cosmic counsciousness" means something for you? If you ever had a transcendental experience, you will understand (and I'm not saying this implies a metafisical reality)
Gargon - A ridiculous word from the ideology of Jubril that was formed by mistakenly saying it instead of jargon. It has now evolved to mean a mixture of Garbage and Jargon
@Sanjiban Bairagya Not difficult in your case
Nietzsche was talking about people like Deepak Chopra when he said "they muddy the water to make it seem deep".
Right
Daniel Dennett also called them “Deepities” and make things sound deep. No wonder his name is “Deepak”
@Yudhisthir dharma what are your thoughts on Deepak Chopra?
@Yudhisthir dharma ok..
you said Nietzsche was a thief.. well, can you point out any theories that he stole from Hindu Vedic concepts? I'm really curious about that.
Yudhisthir dharma Yudhisthir dharma Yudhisthir dharma I agree with your first point that Deepak is taking Hinduism and calling something else. Schopenhauer was influenced by Eastern Thought like Buddhism and Hinduism. However that doesn’t mean that it’s all stolen. I disagree there. Kierkegaard which was also an existentialist like Nieztche draws heavily from Christianity. Most of Western thought is from the Bible and the Greeks so I think you’re wrong.
Richard: My name is Richard Dawkins.
Host: WOW! POR FAVOR un applauso.
YA VES. Era híper exasperante.
Por Dios, hasta ha pedido un aplauso cuando el charlatán de Chopra dijo que los átomos tenían imaginación... flipante.
You reminded me of Juan Cervantes
I bow to you, Richard, always. 💖Thank you.
I started using the words “consciousness”, “universe”, “quantum” more frequently and now I have a bunch of potheads following me around and calling me “guru”. When do I get my diamond encrusted glasses?
they are actually rhinestones
He believes in pantheism but he’s just to stupid to recognize it, and you know, he makes a few bucks out of his stupidity. Which is even more stupid. He will rationalize all his life. He deeply may have good intentions tho.
@Robert atom has consciousness only when one smokes the woo woo weed
@@Rigvedification i see you're a fellow who loves James Randi 🍻
@@Shahid-mh8cj I do admire him for exposing spooky nonsense 🎊
Richard Dawkins thank you so much for your clear and wise comments.
One person is coherent, easy to follow and the other is Deepak
Lies to other liars can be easy to follow.
Richard Dawkins teaches the universe came from "literally nothing."
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't get anything from "literally nothing." We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
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“However improbable the origin of life might be, we know it happened on Earth because we are here.” -Richard Dawkins.
We only get life from life...the law of biogenesis. We can't get anything without God.
The odds are NOT there.
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No, the eye did not evolve into various eyes. Your mere chance mutations are absurd.
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Even Dawkins admits we can't know what is true because of natural selection...
The God Delusion, “Since we are creatures of natural selection, we cannot totally trust our senses. Evolution only passes on traits that help a species survive, and not with preserving traits that tell a species what is actually true about life.”
I used to work with head/brain injured people, accident victims, embolism stroke... etc. I can tell you when you interrupt the chemicals in the brain consciousness is affected in every way. I've never seen an exception to this. So while I can't explain how chemicals produce consciousness I can tell you that.
Richard Dawkins: We as scientist try to explain difficult things in a simple way so people understand , we do not us complicated jargon in order to confuse people.
Deepak Chopra: I like to move it move it, I like to !move it!!
thats a gross exaggeration
you came in with as usual your prejudices that your very statement reflects
and i am neither in one camp or the other
@@chrisbennett6260 lol nah he was pretty accurate
Good News but not common knowledge
Mr Josh Timonen helped Richard Dawkins with his website and he also helped him produce documentaries and sell merchandise. Josh Timonen had been Richard Dawkins right hand man for many years and for this loyalty, Richard gave special thanks to Josh in his book “God Delusion” published 2nd Oct 2006, another invention of Richard’s carrying no substance but his opinions, fancies and whims, he further dedicated another book to him called “The Greatest Show on Earth” published on the 3rd Sept 2009. Richard’s interpretation of life.
Mr Josh Timonen has today become a born again believer in Jesus Christ, this must have really hurt Richard Dawkins and his crusade against the God he hates without a legitimate cause. How that his books could not capture the heart of Josh, but when he truly came under the sound of the gospel, he became broken in heart and spirit giving his heart to the Lord. The Bible is the book of life. In the parable of the wheat and tares the servant came to the land owner saying did you not sow good seed upon your land, how is it that there are tares among the wheat. The Master said an enemy hath done this. The servant said shall I pull up the tares from among the wheat. The Master said wisely, let both grow together until harvest, lest you pull up some of the wheat with the tares. Josh Timonen appeared to be a tare but turned out to be wheat. Let us continue to pray for Richard Dawkins, that he will repent, for it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God!
The Bible can seriously damage your health, so if you are an atheist or agnostic, don’t go near it as its truth is eternal in duration when it comes to spiritual truth manifested in the life of Jesus. Josh now believes in loving God and loving his neighbour as himself. What a wonderful change in his life has been wrought since Jesus came into his heart.
The Bible is the book that the Chinese Communist Part fears more than any other book, because it tells the truth. The North Korean Communist Party fear the Bible, the Russian fear the Bible, in-fact all false religions fear the Bible and its content, because there is power in the loving words of Jesus to change lives. No other religion teaches thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all of your heart, mind, soul, spirit and strength and thou shalt love thy neighbour as thy self. Jesus went further, if you want to be disciples of mine, then you must love your enemies, and as we abide in Jesus daily he enables us to love our enemies, something we could not do in the natural, but when the supernatural is allowed to be imposed on the natural then we are changed into new creatures in Christ. This is why Christians are persecuted and imprisoned for distributing Bibles and preaching the gospel of God’s love and wisdom through Jesus Christ. Fear paralyses communist countries and all false man- made religions.
In short people are afraid of the Bible otherwise they would leave Christians alone. Many people read the Bible to find fault with it! A Pharisee named Ga-ma’liel a doctor of the law gave sound advice to the religious hierarchy in Jerusalem saying: Refrain from these men, and let them alone, for if this council or work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God [Acts 5:38-39]. What sound advice but they didn’t take heed. It is still the same today. Satanists in their temples and those involved witchcraft burn Bibles on a regular basis because of its contents. The devil and demons are consumed by great fear because they know that their time is short. The prophetic word will be fulfilled despite all the sufferings of Christians who have taken up the cross and followed Jesus to eternal glory.
Jajajajaj fantasia no !!! No pudiste escuchar por tus prejuicios !! Pero en todo el debate se noto la superioridad (en términos de consciencia) a favor de chopra !!!
Me gustaria que debatimos al respecto !! Te parece ??? Es una pena que la mayoria de comentarios estén a favor de una ser completamente conectado solamente con su hemisferio izquiero, que parece mas una maquina que un ser humano
Me gustaría saber que opina acerca del amor ? O la felicidad ?? Porque no debe tener ni puta idea. Como todos los que los siguen...
Solo te sugiero una cosa: Investiga en profundidad a Einstein (uno de los mejores científicos de la humanidad) cuando le preguntaban sobre la existencia de dios, él siempre respondía que creía en el Dios de spinoza. lo que habla el científico spinoza es lo mismo que explica Chopra sobre la conciencia !!
te invito a que lo investigues y lo escuches sin prejuicios en la mente porque eso te nubla tu receptividad.
Y no solamente a Einstein y spinoza. !!! Investiga enseñanzas de Sócrates, buda y millones de científicos orientales !! Como nikola tesla hablan de la conciencia Investiga y Estos tipos son muchos mas que este chico Dawkins
@@juanmacaballero33Spinozq no era cientifico. Su Dios es la monada. La naturaleza misma en donde todos. Spinoza es el padre de gran parte del materialismo ya que dice que no me pertenece mi cuerpo sino que yo soy mi cuerpo.
Ademas nosotros no podemos modificar la realidad con la mente ni esta es un completo fenomeno, porque sino por medio de voluntad podriamos cambiar dicha situacion de forma inmediata dicho elemento, critica ya hecha por Frege hace mucho. Dawkins tiene una de las teorias mas interesantes con los memes, despreciar a alguien de esa manera es ridiculo.
Algo mas que lo diga Einstein no significa que sea verdad y a si vez el ayurveda sobrevive sobre bases hinduistas que no se encuentran en Spinoza como quedo ya claro.
Deepak: May I ask you a question?
Dawkins: Yes
Deepak: *proceeds to ask 27 questions in a row*
And he answered haha
Mathias Fernandes Duarte Coelho Well Yea cause there’s nothing wrong with deepak doing that, he can ask as many questions as he wants as long as it’s all the same point he’s getting at. It’s only if he brought up multiple unrelated points that it’d be considered a gish gallop.
@@travispratt6327 You don't got the meme.
Mathias Fernandes Duarte Coelho Oh, whats the meme?
and even so he does not understand why the one who reddens with shame is in the MATRIX
Siempre contigo Richard ❤️🌼
31:28
When Richard inhaled and puffed the oxygen right out as a reaction from hearing the complete stupidity of Deepak was hilarious 😂 I understand Deepak is in a debate but pulling shit out your ass like that is worse than admitting your opponent is right.
Admitting your opponent right is a great thing. It means that you learnt something and it is something that requires great courage to do. Sheeple think that you lose when you admit your opponent is right but it is actually only then you win as the only way to truly win is to aquire new knowledge.
Every time Deepak speaks universe sneaks behind the couch in the lounge and begs mercy!
Deepak's presence at the debate was an insult to Richard Dawkin's intelligence.
Intellectualism not intelligence.
@@pourushsirohi4091 whatever "intellectualism" is in this scenario
And the OP meant "intelligence"
It was also an insult to his patience. How it survived intact is better proof of any mystical unknown than any of Deepak's bullshit screeds.
Totally agree with you 💯
I could only say thank you for sharing your thoughts. Richard Dowkin's is a light for all blind people of the world and Deepak is the one who sell beautiful lies.
I nominate Richard Dawkins for a sainthood!
I nominate ur mom's crack
The irony!
I often return to and watch this again.
I physically feel the pain of Dawkins in this debate.
I really don’t know how he accepted this.
@@acpliego mate everyone physically cringes when Deepak is involved... watch some other interviews/debates... he's such a scam artist
Seriously it was torture for him.
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Truly Dude
" Oxygen has Emotions "
__ Deepak Chopra
Dawkins has raped an amoeba . It told me in my transcendence . Arrest him - Depak
@@sumairahmad9464 😂😂
But oxygen is generated from conciousness but oxygen has memory and water has memory...its already proved....for anything which has memory,there should be fundamental orgin rite ?..
Thats true, you didnt see tha water experiment with words....
@@raajkumar9030 bruh
I had to pause each time after Chopra spoke, so that I could clear my head of the intense, throbbing pain and listen to the intelligible, sensible, articulate response from Dawkins.
its like you need to wash your brain from the stupid after every exposure , i have no idea what sorta haypiles exist in the heads of people who live on chopacobra's woo saladios
I am so grateful. No words. Thank you Richard for representing humanity, freedom in such an eloquent, beautiful way. I am so grateful I found home. ❤️
You're totally wrong, Dawkins only represents cynical atheists who are full of vulgarity and sheer impotence and will never ever win a debate because they reject spirituality rhout really having intelligent arguments.
Title should be "Torturing Dawkins straight for one hour."
Seriously...
Not only was Chopra insufferable, but the way this debate was situated ended up a total disaster. Takes 13 minutes for the opening question and it was such a boring question to boot.
This was a meandering debate. One that I don't always like watching unless I have watched all of Dawkins's other debates on UA-cam. lol
Dawkins is good but..not any best scientist..he is narrow minded
@@souravsahoo1582 Oh really? And will please elucidate on your judgment of Dr. Richard Dawkins, Professor at University of Oxford. Do also state your credentials in all their magnificence, because you must be very well-qualified and erudite to be offering a critique of Dr. Dawkins in a single sentence through the medium of an obscure UA-cam comments section.
@@sibadityapal1493 he is not open minded..these people have a serious problem in accepting spiritual concept..deepak Chopra's words make sense..but dr. Dawkins is not open minded
@@souravsahoo1582 yep, every individual word makes sense, but when u combine them, they dont😂😂
I loved when doctor Dawkins said "I shall not make an argument ad hominem. My argument is ad bullshitem".
At minute 42
No. See www.quora.com/Are-atoms-sentient. And there are others too
@LincolnSixEcho: Dawkins exhibiting his usual arrogance. People with deep belief systems simply cannot comprehend someone who disagrees with them. They think they're either liars or morons. I've had painful experience of this. About 16 years ago, i visited a long-time friend. An atheist, whom i had respected as a mentor for 25 years. During our conversation, i mentioned scientists had recently discovered something called 'Dark Matter' and i told him what i had read in New Scientist about it. He made a 'sour' face. When i laughingly asked him "why the look, do you think i'm telling lies?" he said "yes." I left his home that day and have not spoken to him since. A good man threw his closest friend in the bin with one word, because he refused to accept facts that he thought would affect his materialist beliefs. Dawkins falsely called Chopra a liar, said an eminent physicist was wrong without evidence, even called the audience liars, for the same reason my ex-friend called me a liar.
@@briansmith3791 This is the problem with Hinduism the caste system is ingrained in its identity. Just like deepak kept trying to use argumentum ad verecundiam or appeal to authority fallacy a number of times in his arguments the basic sadhu/guru/pandit does the same the only difference is deepak is trying to keep Hinduism relevant to educated Indians while the sadhu/guru/pandit scams the uneducated Indian masses. The similarity is that both want to keep people ignorant by filling their minds and time with spiritual and metaphysical bullshit. It is to conform with hindu society and appear knowledgeable with in any group even if your the most ignorant person their is. Abrahamic religions have one cult. In hinduism every brahmin or pseudointellectual can create confusion and his very own cult.
The scientists who do not pay attention to religion like Carl Sagan and Neil Degrasse Tyson. Who don't want people to remain ignorant due to their religious believes try to reach as large an audience as possible. They know the evils of Christianity and Islam. They do not know the disease of spreading any and all ignorant beliefs in Hinduism. It can be rewritten to fool anybody.
Hinduism is like liquid poison. you put in a bottle it will become the bottle. you put it in a glass it will become a glass. changing it shape does not make it any less poisonous.
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I don't think so. Deepak made appeals to authority not in a fallacious way at all. He did not state "X said so therefore Y is true". He's appealing to authority because Dawkins stated that he was stating incomprehensible word salads, while he was stating views by prominent scientists, so even if he were wrong in his belief it would not be a bullshit belief. If you want fallacies speak of Dawkins who DID make ad hominems.
If you close your eyes this sounds like a conversation between Richard Dawkins and King Julien from the penguins of Madagascar
Deepak: I explain something I hardly understand with something I do not understand at all.
I really wonder what Richard Dawkins was thinking while WHATEVER THE FUCK WAS GOING ON IN THE BEGINNING was going on
LMAO totally!
My thought exactly
I actually liked the music xD
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They were hooked up to a translation device. You can see that black device in their ears.
Hilarious!! I thought I was on the wrong video!
That was a horrendous format for a debate moderated by a loud blockhead!
That wasn't a debate
He wasnt that annoying, the Format was bullshit, give them 10 or 15 minutes to explain
Literally. 90 seconds wtf.
@@shamanicrevolution2204 Lucky for Dawkins it doesn't take more than 90 seconds to point out bullshit.
a serious debate and chopra is an oxymoron
Dawkins earned my respect at the 48:05 mark by admitting ignorance for how conscious exists.
Dawkins is an excellent and honest intellectual who truly respects his audience.
I find him rather arrogant
Dawkins cannot answer questions from his opponent..
@@riaklungmoita4923 bc they’re not intelligible. Sensible questions.
@@riaklungmoita4923 You misspelled his name. It's C-H-O-P-R-A. Just a friendly FYI.
Dawkings can be called an intellectual, but never an honest person. His rampant atheism has engulfed his honesty. He lost the debate from the first to the last word. He's not an honest person.
Deepak: How many people understood what I was saying?
[Crowds applauds]
Dawkins: You're lying!
That was sweet.
It was embarrassing... I don´t understand why many people who assisted to that event doesn't speak english even in a basic level.
Francisco Miranda Hernández Too bad you weren’t on that stage to enlighten us all with that stunning grammar of yours
Jabib Galt Dawkins should have been banned from media appearance for life for calling the audience liars: how dare he do such a thing.
@Ezio Auditore Why does it have to be about skin color? Maybe they just agree with him.
@@johnlawrence2757 Oh, the mind of an authoritarian.
"He should've been banned from media appearance for life!"
Are you THAT sensitive and dictatorial?
If you can't handle a statement that accuses people of lying, you're what it's nowadays called a "snowflake".
Moreover, it's revealing that your concern is not on whether the public were indeed filled with liars, but your concern is that Dawkins called them that.
"I'm gonna put 'quantum' in every sentence and that will make it scientific"-Deepak Chopra.
"Voy a poner 'cuántico' en cada oración y eso lo hará científico"-Deepak Chopra.
I like how u translated that
aea otaku
Why'd you write it twice? Why did you write it twice?
"Do you guys just put the word quantum in front of everything? "
Jajajajaj no pudiste escuchar por tus prejuicios !! Pero en todo el debate se noto la superioridad (en términos de consciencia) a favor de chopra !!!
Me gustaria que debatimos al respecto !! Te parece ??? Es una pena que la mayoria de comentarios estén a favor de una ser completamente conectado solamente con su hemisferio izquiero, que parece mas una maquina que un ser humano
Me gustaría saber que opina acerca del amor ? O la felicidad ?? Porque no debe tener ni puta idea. Como todos los que los siguen...
Solo te sugiero una cosa: Investiga en profundidad a Einstein (uno de los mejores científicos de la humanidad) cuando le preguntaban sobre la existencia de dios, él siempre respondía que creía en el Dios de spinoza. lo que habla el científico spinoza es lo mismo que explica Chopra sobre la conciencia !!
te invito a que lo investigues y lo escuches sin prejuicios en la mente porque eso te nubla tu receptividad.
Y no solamente a Einstein y spinoza. !!! Investiga enseñanzas de Sócrates, buda y millones de científicos orientales !! Como nikola tesla hablan de la conciencia Investiga y Estos tipos son muchos mas que este chico Dawkins
Dawkins is the honest one in this discussion and I respect all his attributes, especially his patience.
Great explanation about religion by Dawkins.
27:10 "you're lying" LOL I love Dawkins' brute responses
Nabil Saleh I love that moment
I think Richard was just tired of so much ignorance and got frustrated.
@Nabil S : 79 likes for a comment that 'loves' Dawkins calling ordinary people liars! He is publicly showing his contempt for those of us who are not of the 'elite', who didn't attend Oxbridge, Harvard, Yale etc, and 79 people applaud this? To paraphrase George Carlin, 'Wake up, it's a big elitist club and YOU ain't in it.'
@@briansmith3791 Shut the fuck up, you willing ignorant
@@HAL-iv2kd Shut the fuck up you unwilling ignorant!!!
if you close your eyes, this is a debate between Dawkins and the Lemur in Madagascar.
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It's so true. I closed my eyes after reading this comment.
Hilarious
Hahahaahhahaah
Best comment 😂
Waiting for parking the past hour. ANGRY. Lmao. And now I’m cracking TF UP 😂😂😂😂
I am very impressed with this audience, who through their applause and other reactions show a great deal of intelligence in evaluating these two speakers. This clearly shows the excellence of the public education available in México.
Applauding Deepak’s nonsense is certainly not indicative of intelligence in the evaluation of his arguments.
They are laughably pseudo-scientific ramblings that should be mocked, not applauded.
@@rekunta one man meat is another man poison
@@rekunta The problem with Dawkins is that he doesn't understand the concept of consciousness of Chopra, this universe is hierarchical, there are complex systems that integrate other more complex systems that react to their environment, if this reaction is called the "level of consciousness" then we can exemplify the cells that make up our body, they communicate through chemical signals but are not aware of the being that they integrate, Dawkins is like that cell unable to understand the hypothesis that it could form a more complex system and that it could therefore have a level of consciousness incomprehensible and superior to that of the human being
@@BetoIME93Yes, Dawkins doesn't understand consciousness but Bet Ol ME not only understands it but is selling books on it !
@@nickers7409 fr wtf is he saying😂😂
Deepak Chopra is not an idiot. This guy is a professional and amazingly talented gaslighter and conman.
Troll he's a troll with a PHD
It starts at 11:40
Thank you.
Thanx
Thanks
Thanks
thank you!
"Whoever knows he is deep, strives for clarity; whoever would like to appear deep to the crowd, strives for obscurity. For the crowd considers anything deep if only it cannot see to the bottom: the crowd is so timid and afraid of going into the water."
This is the dynamic between these thinkers - you tell me who is who.....
Deepak is an idiot that i know
Nietzsche?
I can say this, Dawkins is a loser.
Richard Dawkins teaches the universe came from "literally nothing."
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't get anything from "literally nothing." We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
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“However improbable the origin of life might be, we know it happened on Earth because we are here.” -Richard Dawkins.
We only get life from life...the law of biogenesis. We can't get anything without God.
The odds are NOT there.
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No, the eye did not evolve into various eyes. Your mere chance mutations are absurd.
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Even Dawkins admits we can't know what is true because of natural selection...
The God Delusion, “Since we are creatures of natural selection, we cannot totally trust our senses. Evolution only passes on traits that help a species survive, and not with preserving traits that tell a species what is actually true about life.”
That's profound! I have a nick name for Chopra, Deepcuck.
Krazy Kirl
"That's profound! I have a nick name for Chopra, Deepcuck."
I'm no fan of Deepak at all and I'm sure not a fan of dolt Dawkins. As I showed, he hates science.
I can't comprehend a single sentence being uttered by Mr. Deepak Chopra
How did this Deepak Chopra get so many audiences throughout the world, it is surprising.
You have to have a soul to understand
"Atoms can think."
Deepak Chopra.
LesPaul2006 That Phrase can be seen as the most smartest thing ever said, as well as the most stupid. But actually no one can prove that is right or wrong.
Erick Relentless Evidence strongly suggests it is wrong. They do behave weird allright, but not as if they could think.
You're right, there are "strong" evidence on both sides but nothing is proved.
Erick Relentless Not on both sides. The only "evidence" for the consciousness of atoms is Chopra's wishful thinking.
LesPaul2006 The double slit experiment it's a really good point to believe that atoms has some kind of awareness, also some of the conclusions of Shrödinger. In the other side we have the postulate of Decoherence that is enough strong to make you think that atoms are not aware.
"i respect scientist who use a simple language to understand,"i like that.
I have year 7 students with a stronger comprehension of matter than Deepak has. Still shocked Richard gave him the time of day.
Trevor don't overestimate yourself. There are kids that knows more about this universe then you ever will be.
Matter does't exist. I feel for your students.
Is it possible Deepak is talking from an elevated, spiritual platform that still eludes us.
Gran gran evento la ciudad de las ideas 😎 amo todas y cada una de las charlas y ponencias.
That intro is how Deepak interprets science.
excelente el nivel, ojalas mis conciudadanos tengan la curiosidad de escuchar y reflexionar sobre estos aspectos que lindan con lo filosófico, muchas gracias a IDEAS PELIGROSAS porque despues de este debate ya no son tan peligrosas.
Jajajajajaja al contrario, qué video miraste ?????? te diste cuenta que ese tipo estuvo los últimos minutos extremadamente nervioso y Colorado fíjate míralo bien !!!! y chopra todo lo contrario, siempre consciente y tranquilo
Me parece que muchos de ustedes tienen mucho miedo a mirar dentro de sí mismos dónde iban a encontrar realmente lo que buscan de ahí que todos los sabios siempre se repiten conócete a ti mismo Eso quiere decir ser consciente ahí está la conciencia y la conciencia está en todo. la conciencia no es una entidad separada Somos la conciencia en ella vivimos nos movemos Y tenemos el ser
qué decís que no se entiende?? Lo qué es lo que no entendés ?? me gustaría que me respondas porque la verdad que me da mucha pena que la humanidad todavía sea tan tan tan ignorante y no puede avanzar creyendo que todo se creó de pura casualidad y se alejan completamente del amor y de los sentimientos más altos que podemos experimentar como seres humanos. porque todo queda en la mente todo en la intelectualidad Y estás re aburrida Yo sé que sos infeliz y que no sos feliz porque no te puedes conectar con esa parte más sensible de vos misma !! Entonces vos No te engañes a vos misma !!! E investigue mas !! Todos los ateos no quieren creer en el amor ni en la felicidad ni en nada de eso, pero en fin todos en el fondo se esconden y siempre todo ser humano Busca ser feliz. Entonces qué están buscando. eso que no creen ?Por qué no tiene una explicación racional !!! la espiritualidad es una experiencia la sabiduría se saborea no se lee No sé no es un conocimiento es un es una experiencia te invito a que te tenga la oportunidad de tener una experiencia Mística y que te des cuenta que no son solamente una mente que hay una energía Más allá de eso y también te invito a que no subestimes a Einstein aguda a Espinoza todo científicos que eran recontra sabios @@RiversLive
@@RiversLiveJajajajaj fantasia no !!! No pudiste escuchar por tus prejuicios !! Pero en todo el debate se noto la superioridad (en términos de consciencia) a favor de chopra !!!
Me gustaria que debatimos al respecto !! Te parece ??? Es una pena que la mayoria de comentarios estén a favor de una ser completamente conectado solamente con su hemisferio izquiero, que parece mas una maquina que un ser humano
Me gustaría saber que opina acerca del amor ? O la felicidad ?? Porque no debe tener ni puta idea. Como todos los que los siguen...
Solo te sugiero una cosa: Investiga en profundidad a Einstein (uno de los mejores científicos de la humanidad) cuando le preguntaban sobre la existencia de dios, él siempre respondía que creía en el Dios de spinoza. lo que habla el científico spinoza es lo mismo que explica Chopra sobre la conciencia !!
te invito a que lo investigues y lo escuches sin prejuicios en la mente porque eso te nubla tu receptividad.
Y no solamente a Einstein y spinoza. !!! Investiga enseñanzas de Sócrates, buda y millones de científicos orientales !! Como nikola tesla hablan de la conciencia Investiga y Estos tipos son muchos mas que este chico Dawkins
Veo por primera vez éste debate. A veces veo documentales sobre cada uno de los invitados. Me parecen fantásticos. Siempre aportan algo a mi entendimiento. Tal vez si no los pusieran a competir terminariamos enriqueciendo más nuestro conocimiento. El moderador me pareció que dirigía un "espectáculo" o "concurso" de los que suele haber en la tv abierta mexicana...
Deepak no dice absolutamente nada por más minutos que hable. Es imposible que entiendas nada y si llamas comprensión a eso que sientes cuando le escuchas simplemente haz el ejercicio de explicar lo que has entendido para que veamos la lógica de ello. Lo preocupante si crees entender algo es que no seas capaz de distinguir la una frase con significado de una que no lo tiene y no veas la diferencia entre uno y otro.
@@yuzoookun muchas gracias. Iba a decir exactamente lo mismo. el hombre dice tantas palabras pero ninguna de sus palabras transmite una idea real.
Además, lo siento por el mal español. Google tradujo todo esto.
Jajajajajaja es que si no lo entendes ds justamente porque nunca agarraste un puto libro de espiritualidad (no hablo de religión )
En casi todo el debate chopra lo deja sin palabras esta claramente mucho mas avanzado !!!
Que es la consciencia para vos ????
Que es el "yo" ???
Pudiste experimentar el proceso de pensamiento como ilusion a traves de la meditación ???
Los monjes budistas si escuchan a estos cientificos dirían que ni siquiera llegaron a Jardin de infancia
Me encataria tener un debate contigo ya que (al igual que ese tipo) subestiman tanto a los sabios de la antigüedad como: Sócrates, buda, lao tse, Einstein, el cientifico spinoza, y millones de sabios que pisaron esta tierra y hablaron de la enseñanza mas poderosa que es el amor.. Estoy seguro que tampoco me podes describir el amor. Porque vas a decir que es una reaccion quimica en el cerebro jajaja que robots que son muchos de los ateos @@yuzoookun
@@randominternetguy3537cual no te parece real ???
i am not a science person but it seems like deepak is talking about many different things including way of life to prove his points while dawkins using accurate honest words to explain facts
Lu5ck what did Dawkins actually explain? Specifically? All I heard was that he can't actually prove anything.
Dawkins is not able to comprehend Deepak, as you are not either.
@@madelena1234 That's because Deepak isn't saying anything of substance. You're just easily fooled by the sciency words sprinkled at random in his sentences.
@@0oMag You don't have to falsify nonsense for it to be nonsense. All Deepak did was spit out unfalsifiable, nonsensical claims one after another. I could say there's invisible magic god stuff flying in the air that controls our subconscious minds. Does that mean it's rational to believe in such a thing just because you can't prove me wrong? Hell no.
@@Elintasokas how is that in any way shape or form coherent to my question?
Seeing this live must have been legendary
I couldn't imagine listening to Deepak without having the option to pause, take a few deep breaths and facepalm.
Literally
@@TunezCottage
How about a large amount of drugs before listening to this nimrod?
I hope that Dawkins had the opportunity to read these comments to know the appreciation so many have for him. Yet, I assume he does and doesn't require the admiration.
There is deeper consciousnes in us all, that throws out this universe at the speed of light. Wow
rhetoric - meaningless like most of what Mr. Chopra exudes
This bullshit expressed its intentionality by crossing the universal consciousness in a quantum shift.
I am in complete awe at how Dr. Dawkins tries to drive the audience back to the point comprehension from the jargon Dr. Chopra is throwing out there in quantum leaps in not so quantum quantity..
Really? Loser Dawkins puts you in awe?
Richard Dawkins teaches the universe came from "literally nothing."
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't get anything from "literally nothing." We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
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“However improbable the origin of life might be, we know it happened on Earth because we are here.” -Richard Dawkins.
We only get life from life...the law of biogenesis. We can't get anything without God.
The odds are NOT there.
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No, the eye did not evolve into various eyes. Your mere chance mutations are absurd.
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Even Dawkins admits we can't know what is true because of natural selection...
The God Delusion, “Since we are creatures of natural selection, we cannot totally trust our senses. Evolution only passes on traits that help a species survive, and not with preserving traits that tell a species what is actually true about life.”
In simple word you are saying that you HATE deepak and have no interest in scientific exploration.
@@SanSha2100 deepak engages in a quasi scientific illusion and speculation it is not a sound evidence based scientific method
@@SanSha2100 WHATTTTT
Some folk are willing to believe what they are told to believe by science, although they have no.direct personal evidence, in just the same way that some believe everything they are told to believe by religion.
Don't have any blind beliefs, but keep an open mind.
wtf is this shit at the beginning hahaha
Lol
That is at least better than the Rotten-Deepak-Talk
This beggining is so overly-epic and dramatic, it's hilarious, I love it.
science says it does not believe in god but it uses Infinity quite often to prove the theories.
what is infinity if not god.
@@venkatnz1229 Not god.
MIS Respetos y admiración es para Richard Dawkins
Jajajajaj fantasia no !!! No pudiste escuchar por tus prejuicios !! Pero en todo el debate se noto la superioridad (en términos de consciencia) a favor de chopra !!!
Me gustaria que debatimos al respecto !! Te parece ??? Es una pena que la mayoria de comentarios estén a favor de una ser completamente conectado solamente con su hemisferio izquiero, que parece mas una maquina que un ser humano
Me gustaría saber que opina acerca del amor ? O la felicidad ?? Porque no debe tener ni puta idea. Como todos los que los siguen...
Solo te sugiero una cosa: Investiga en profundidad a Einstein (uno de los mejores científicos de la humanidad) cuando le preguntaban sobre la existencia de dios, él siempre respondía que creía en el Dios de spinoza. lo que habla el científico spinoza es lo mismo que explica Chopra sobre la conciencia !!
te invito a que lo investigues y lo escuches sin prejuicios en la mente porque eso te nubla tu receptividad.
Y no solamente a Einstein y spinoza. !!! Investiga enseñanzas de Sócrates, buda y millones de científicos orientales !! Como nikola tesla hablan de la conciencia Investiga y Estos tipos son muchos mas que este chico Dawkins
I am truly baffled that some (or very many, apparently) find Deepak Chopra somehow wise and intelligent.
Damn, Richard Dawkins is one very patient man. Very honest and patient. Bless him I wish him very good health.
Deepak I feel was genuine in his quest for scientific education but lost his way into fiction as he is bringing up some questions of thought from all the scientists of various fields and textbooks he mentioned
Deepak Chopra had always been a charlatan since the very beginning. Why did a person as intelligent as Richard Dawkins even accepted to debate with this idiot?
The guy formed his image through has signature diamond-studded glasses and a load of lucrative endorsements showing his smug mug wearing them. I think it's quite easy to see the intentions of Deepak's quest and how genuine he really is. What baffles me is how the grift ever worked.
@@FakingANerve ..and Dawkins came from British Colonial Kenya, brought up with native servants, then to England to a house paid for by a slave-owning ancestor. From fee-paying private school to Oxford, where he has lived ever since. And people wonder why he has no idea of the world the rest of us live in? His condemnation of Julian Assange says it all.
I need Richard's patience
If we all had Dawkins' patience the world would be a better place.
True
Of the two which one showed the most patience to the others point of view?
this is brilliant in that the answer to the questions they both seek is the absolute balance right in between them. matter itself can be said to have formed in order to feel love.
arguments are usually semantics. defining quantum... science may observe the 'quantum' occurrences in the mind. is it possible matter came of a thought...
This has got to be the best moderator I've ever seen. What an absolutely great job
on behalf of the youtube community , let me rename this video to its correct situation
"Footage of Richard Dawkins Being Tortured"
So fuckin true lol
HAHAHAHAH yes, please
Poors Dawkins :'v
Epic
Yeah, poor Dawkins having to deal with this pea brained maniac
Man when I was younger I thought it would take me a while to understand deepak but as I grew and understood more (went to university) I realized it’s not important lol. I can literally skip but just listening to his keywords and move on to next line. Because the sentences have no meaning they are just built on keywords to make them sound interesting. Dawkins is legend
:D
lol
he just sounds like he knows soo much when clearly he does not understand anything , he is like a science book after a dog eats it and poops it and you try tor read the torn and chewed pages , all the words are there but they mean nothing
How did you manage such a terrible leap of faith? closing your mind so spontaneously
@@helmutgensen4738 took me 5 years. Wasn’t spontaneous
Quite the intro. Interesting conversation.
I watched this too late but for me, one of the most intelligent and lively interactions ever which made the host so exasperrated in the middle of the debate. 🤗😅
Dr. Dawkins has the patience of a saint
To him that would be an insult.
That is why he used ad hominem fallacy of science 101, several times. No saint or person with patience will use abusive language.
The irony 🤣
skip to about 3:26 to skip the crazy opening
11:36 is where the dialogue actually begins
I scrolled down looking for some comment like yours. Thx a lot!
My question is WHY
thank youuuuuu!!! you are a nice and lovely person xD
Nicholas Nace learnt some Spanish 😄😄 nice language.
Mi educacion desde niño incluyo una de las religiones mas extendidas en el planeta, y he aprendido un poco de otras. Lo que he sacado hasta ahora como conclusion es que siempre tienen explicacion a todo, no te permiten el derecho de pensar diferente
Ambos son geniales. Muy buena informacion. Gracias.
¡Ambos? Deepak es poco mas que un charlatán medianamente exitoso.
@@davidgalindez4856 No pudiste escuchar por tus prejuicios !! Pero en todo el debate se noto la superioridad (en términos de consciencia) a favor de chopra !!!
Me gustaria que debatimos al respecto !! Te parece ??? Es una pena que la mayoria de comentarios estén a favor de una ser completamente conectado solamente con su hemisferio izquiero, que parece mas una maquina que un ser humano
Me gustaría saber que opina acerca del amor ? O la felicidad ?? Porque no debe tener ni puta idea. Como todos los que los siguen...
Solo te sugiero una cosa: Investiga en profundidad a Einstein (uno de los mejores científicos de la humanidad) cuando le preguntaban sobre la existencia de dios, él siempre respondía que creía en el Dios de spinoza. lo que habla el científico spinoza es lo mismo que explica Chopra sobre la conciencia !!
te invito a que lo investigues y lo escuches sin prejuicios en la mente porque eso te nubla tu receptividad.
Y no solamente a Einstein y spinoza. !!! Investiga enseñanzas de Sócrates, buda y millones de científicos orientales !! Como nikola tesla hablan de la conciencia Investiga y Estos tipos son muchos mas que este chico Dawkins
Cómo no consiguieron un mejor presentador para este diálogo tan extraordinario?!
Su problema es que tiene un ingles pesimo y estoy seguro que hubo mucha gente que solo aplaudió por aplaudir
De pena ajena y el publico también :(
Que ganas de escuchar todo lo que tenían que decir sin interrupciones.
X2
X4
La forma del debate como una lucha de catch es un desastre 🤦.
Porque no me enteré de esto!!! Estos son los debates que deben hacerse públicos. Escuchar a Dawkins es una oportunidad que no se tiene siempre en países como México.
Como no es Fútbol, novelas o show de comedias matutinos por parte del gobierno, a "nadie" le interesa.
Chopra sin duda lo dejo sin respuesta y lo peor es que como humanidad estamos lejos de ese entendimiento me apena mucho
Me gustaria que me compartas que es lo que no entendiste y te lo explico 😉
If there is a great example of woo woo science, Deepak Chopra is the champion. His strategy is that he takes real science facts and mix it up fill up with words and explanations that sounds like a well educated articulate person. There are lot of people like a part that audience who declare that they understand. "the Emperor has no clothes" phenomena. Everybody wants to be smart and while they have no idea what he talks about, they do understand some of the words and would never admit they do not understand the entirety. They can't understand since it a nonsense made up to impress and earn money / benefits from society. If you oppose such, they will tell you nthat the emperor does wear clothes you just not as educated or sophisticated as they are to see it. Hilariously dark age mentality.
I agree on everything but i think bullshitters have existed throghout human history
Right on !
@@MarioDemaria110 of course, how do you think humanity created tens of thousands of religions and churches
Exactly, its just that 'dark age mentality' that made me think you thought it was just a modern plague
Tal cual
It's really remarkable that Deepak can talk complete nonsense for that amount of time without having any regret 😂
He is making a lot of money out of it...
You are idiot and will remain idiot he is the one who trying to take you out from your idiotness.
Just because you don't understand something, that does not make it complete nonsense!
It does if the person saying the stuff doesn't understand it...
@@abdulfahadabro5294 Why don't you explain why he's an idiot?
If Quantum theory explained in Deepak Chopra's books worked , we could have seen him still young.
que comentario tan estupido
@@mauriciocastaneda6097 You're stupid.
These guys are both spectacular
You can't argue with stupidity.
Once again, undefeated Dawkins keeps he cool.
Love you Dawkins
Defeated by Dr John Lennox.
@ergonomover
I stood in front of the skull of Sue, the T-Rex at Chicago's Field museum. It was a walk-in, Sue could engulf a standing adult human in one jaw-stroke, she had 50 10-inch teeth and jaw crushing-power of 2000 ppsi. Good thing humans and T-Rex's never shared the planet.
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@davidbanner6230
Do you think it possible that their demise had purpose?
How many millions of years did it take to evolve such creatures? Is nature so wasteful?
And if so, is our annihilation just as tenuous, at the whim of a madman?
Then life has no purpose, and evolution has no purpose, reason, or destiny?
Then this would mean that Atheists are right, there is no God, and the Universe/existence has no purpose?
Seems to me a mighty waste of time.....which also has no purpose?
Rephrasing your words, if you love Dawkings you love stupidity, cinicism, vulgarity and impotence.
Once again.. you can't argue with stupidity..
I rest my case..
@@johnnyb2442 You don't have a case to rest.
I respected Dawkins more after watching this.
This debate is like
Richard dawkin say 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 then comes 10
Deepak chopra 1,2,44,59,70,99,a ,b c,d the comes XYZ
😂😂😂😂
Good summary
Great summary, fella'
I'm getting the feeling that Derpak talked 3x more than Dawkins.
@@GEAsolar But Deepak almost always loses the main idea of his arguments
no - because the components in your list are actually in order 😊
Deepak's ability to bullshit is almost an art
No kidding, it is lowkey impressive.
Richard Dawkins😍❤💥👍🙏
Jajajajaj fantasia no !!! No pudiste escuchar por tus prejuicios !! Pero en todo el debate se noto la superioridad (en términos de consciencia) a favor de chopra !!!
Me gustaria que debatimos al respecto !! Te parece ??? Es una pena que la mayoria de comentarios estén a favor de una ser completamente conectado solamente con su hemisferio izquiero, que parece mas una maquina que un ser humano
Me gustaría saber que opina acerca del amor ? O la felicidad ?? Porque no debe tener ni puta idea. Como todos los que los siguen...
Solo te sugiero una cosa: Investiga en profundidad a Einstein (uno de los mejores científicos de la humanidad) cuando le preguntaban sobre la existencia de dios, él siempre respondía que creía en el Dios de spinoza. lo que habla el científico spinoza es lo mismo que explica Chopra sobre la conciencia !!
te invito a que lo investigues y lo escuches sin prejuicios en la mente porque eso te nubla tu receptividad.
Y no solamente a Einstein y spinoza. !!! Investiga enseñanzas de Sócrates, buda y millones de científicos orientales !! Como nikola tesla hablan de la conciencia Investiga y Estos tipos son muchos mas que este chico Dawkins
Choprah and the Woo-woo again. I've never heard so many words being spoken without anything being said.
Very well said!
Try Kellyanne Conway and Sarah Palin
true - except for the parts where he was just plain wrong
A K this is all even worse than the crap Chopra sells - you are completely ignorant or just lying about all of the science you included - and the rest isn’t even wrong it’s so ridiculous
Find Jordan Peterson when he gets onto God. You’ll hear it.
Chopra's logical fallacies:
- Ad verecundiam
- Ad ignorantium
- Ad bullshitem
Ad crapidum
Ad monetizatium
Ad HD
Ad vent
Ad herence
Dr Deepak is genius full of extraordinary wisdom of Upanishads 🙏
That was one hell of a intro 😂😂 this whole debate setting is hilarious.