Thanks really interesting. The beer looks great as well. Myself and several people who tried thought robs export Porter was the best they had drunk for many a year. Regarding stir bar problem. Get another stir bar in a piece of hose and you can remove it. They will attract each other. Speaking as an ex research chemist.
Takes me back! I built mine system 2x50L damaged kegs by cutting the top out with a dremel tool and making a syphon on the HLT and a hop stopper on the boiler, plus a plastic picnic cooler for the mash tun with a slotted manifold, no pumps, just gravity fed with contentious sparge( running off the same amount of wort as incomming hot liquor). There was no home brewing equipment on the market, all the Americans were brewing on gas. A trip to Highworth to see Ken for my brewing ingredience. Richard
Also I’ve been thinking about brewing an imperial stout in midsummer for Christmas. I think this may be the one. I loved the Mandarina Bavaria in last years IWD beer and I reckon it’ll be banging in an imperial stout.
Fantastic guys. This was probably one of the most interesting videos you have done. It was more educational than sales pitched but one day I may think about replacing my all in one & go down the 3 vessel system. Looking forward to the next one 👍👍👍
Nice video! I've been brewing on a 3 vessel HERMS system for many years, but still learnt things. I was very interested to see that you got a whirlpool going with all the bits in the boiler! I've never tried it because of that but will give it a go now.
Great video. I wish this was available when I started using my 3 vessel system a few years ago. Regarding the stir bar... I've dumped more than one into my fermenter over the years but you can use a magnet outside the flask to slide it up and out before pitching. Removes the risk and allows you to add the whole starter volume without leaving anything behind.
I used to be wary of getting the stir bar into the fermenter and failed on a couple of occasions. Then I read about someone using a magnet to the stirbar to the side of the flask. Works perfectly and so obvious when you think about it.
Another great video guys. I'm BIAB at the moment and looking at which all in one system to go for as an upgrade. You may have just convinced me to go three vessel instead!
Great video. I'd love a three vessel system, I haven't got the budget or the room ! Planning my 1st BIAB in my Burco in 25 years. I need to order an immersion chiller. I did think about using 2 chillers, with the first in a bucket of iced water connected to the second one in the kettle.🤔🍻
Sounds great! If you have a pump to re-circulate the chilled water through the chill that could work well but I'd imagine you may need to top up the ice a couple of times.
Really enjoyed this video and it’s inspired me to do a BIAB either in my 35L kettle or go right back to where I started a 11L pot on the stove. I really liked your set up for the blow off tube - how does it work?
For the blow off, 3/8 JG fittings and gas line. If you use a male 3/8 female to male it perfectly fits the hole in the silicone stopper that fits in the lid of the fermenter. You can then use 3/8 elbows and 3/8 gas line to fashion the blow off tubing to your specific set up. It also allows to to add small amounts of CO2 when cold crashing;)
would be great to see how you fly sparge on that system. I've home built various sparge arms using plastic pipe and quick fit connectors but never been very successful.
I would have liked to have seen a bit of the clean-up process. I have always been able to up-end the vessel containg the spent grain and the ease (or lack of it) of cleaning up would have been instructive, I had been expecting a sort of grain basket as I did in my very early days as a Lauter Tun. (bucket in bucket arrangement).
Hey! This really depends on your preferred method as both will work and create amazing wort when you apply the principles for brewing great beer - water quality, high quality ingredients, well constructed recipe, cleanliness and controlled fermentation and packaging. The difference is how much time you want to be "hands on" with the brewday. All in one systems such as the Grainfather offer massive amounts of simplicity and convenience coupled with smart control and repeatability. The less automated methods such as 3 vessel or BIAB offer you more in the way of hands on brewing and experiences. Both are great but each suites different requirements for the brewer.
If you use a plate chiller how would you do this without initially having to run run boiling wort through the magnetic pump to get it through the chiller?
Hey! Few things to consider with this answer. Firstly, some pumps will work at up to 120c, our magnetically coupled ones for example, some won't though and you can cause cavitation in the pump. The second thing to consider is how you have hops in your kettle, if you use a hop spider then you won't have as high risk of blocking up the plate chiller with them but there is always a trade off in hop efficiency. This all being said, in our experience the best thing to do is to not pump wort through the chiller until you are ready to transfer from the kettle to the FV and the way we approach it is to fill the chiller with sanitiser before you hook it up and then when you transfer the finished wort, discard the first runnings until its clearly wort coming through the chiller. You will then need to clean and rinse the chiller, plus allow it to drain out after the brew before storing.
No difference in the body as this tends to be driven by the residual sugars in the beer after fermentation, adding protofloc however does help remove the cold break proteins and give you a clearer beer at the end
Thanks really interesting. The beer looks great as well. Myself and several people who tried thought robs export Porter was the best they had drunk for many a year. Regarding stir bar problem. Get another stir bar in a piece of hose and you can remove it. They will attract each other. Speaking as an ex research chemist.
Awesome tip!
Takes me back! I built mine system 2x50L damaged kegs by cutting the top out with a dremel tool and making a syphon on the HLT and a hop stopper on the boiler, plus a plastic picnic cooler for the mash tun with a slotted manifold, no pumps, just gravity fed with contentious sparge( running off the same amount of wort as incomming hot liquor). There was no home brewing equipment on the market, all the Americans were brewing on gas. A trip to Highworth to see Ken for my brewing ingredience. Richard
Also I’ve been thinking about brewing an imperial stout in midsummer for Christmas. I think this may be the one. I loved the Mandarina Bavaria in last years IWD beer and I reckon it’ll be banging in an imperial stout.
Fantastic guys. This was probably one of the most interesting videos you have done. It was more educational than sales pitched but one day I may think about replacing my all in one & go down the 3 vessel system. Looking forward to the next one 👍👍👍
Our pleasure!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video! I've been brewing on a 3 vessel HERMS system for many years, but still learnt things. I was very interested to see that you got a whirlpool going with all the bits in the boiler! I've never tried it because of that but will give it a go now.
Love it
Great video. I wish this was available when I started using my 3 vessel system a few years ago. Regarding the stir bar... I've dumped more than one into my fermenter over the years but you can use a magnet outside the flask to slide it up and out before pitching. Removes the risk and allows you to add the whole starter volume without leaving anything behind.
Great tip!
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I used to be wary of getting the stir bar into the fermenter and failed on a couple of occasions. Then I read about someone using a magnet to the stirbar to the side of the flask. Works perfectly and so obvious when you think about it.
Great video, always wanted a 3 vessel set up but no space for it yet
Great video, well done , very educational. Would be interested to see how you set up and use the fermenter, taking yeast off etc.
Coming soon!
Another great video guys. I'm BIAB at the moment and looking at which all in one system to go for as an upgrade. You may have just convinced me to go three vessel instead!
Go for it!
Great video. I'd love a three vessel system, I haven't got the budget or the room ! Planning my 1st BIAB in my Burco in 25 years.
I need to order an immersion chiller. I did think about using 2 chillers, with the first in a bucket of iced water connected to the second one in the kettle.🤔🍻
Sounds great! If you have a pump to re-circulate the chilled water through the chill that could work well but I'd imagine you may need to top up the ice a couple of times.
Really enjoyed this video and it’s inspired me to do a BIAB either in my 35L kettle or go right back to where I started a 11L pot on the stove. I really liked your set up for the blow off tube - how does it work?
For the blow off, 3/8 JG fittings and gas line. If you use a male 3/8 female to male it perfectly fits the hole in the silicone stopper that fits in the lid of the fermenter. You can then use 3/8 elbows and 3/8 gas line to fashion the blow off tubing to your specific set up. It also allows to to add small amounts of CO2 when cold crashing;)
would be great to see how you fly sparge on that system. I've home built various sparge arms using plastic pipe and quick fit connectors but never been very successful.
That was great thanks. Kind of made me miss my old set up!
Any chance of you sharing the recipe?
www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/robs-imperial-twisted-stout-all-grain-kit/
I would have liked to have seen a bit of the clean-up process. I have always been able to up-end the vessel containg the spent grain and the ease (or lack of it) of cleaning up would have been instructive, I had been expecting a sort of grain basket as I did in my very early days as a Lauter Tun. (bucket in bucket arrangement).
Stay tuned 😉
Great video, what is your preferred at the 30 ltr volume, 3 vessel or all in one ?
Hey! This really depends on your preferred method as both will work and create amazing wort when you apply the principles for brewing great beer - water quality, high quality ingredients, well constructed recipe, cleanliness and controlled fermentation and packaging. The difference is how much time you want to be "hands on" with the brewday. All in one systems such as the Grainfather offer massive amounts of simplicity and convenience coupled with smart control and repeatability. The less automated methods such as 3 vessel or BIAB offer you more in the way of hands on brewing and experiences. Both are great but each suites different requirements for the brewer.
If you use a plate chiller how would you do this without initially having to run run boiling wort through the magnetic pump to get it through the chiller?
Hey! Few things to consider with this answer. Firstly, some pumps will work at up to 120c, our magnetically coupled ones for example, some won't though and you can cause cavitation in the pump. The second thing to consider is how you have hops in your kettle, if you use a hop spider then you won't have as high risk of blocking up the plate chiller with them but there is always a trade off in hop efficiency. This all being said, in our experience the best thing to do is to not pump wort through the chiller until you are ready to transfer from the kettle to the FV and the way we approach it is to fill the chiller with sanitiser before you hook it up and then when you transfer the finished wort, discard the first runnings until its clearly wort coming through the chiller. You will then need to clean and rinse the chiller, plus allow it to drain out after the brew before storing.
How did the fermentation go, as the yeast was still at the high krausen stage when pitched? Did this affect the taste of the finished beer?
It's being packaged this week, we will come back to you or post an update! The samples have been tasting lush!
Nice video, nice low tech system. Is there a link to the recipe you brewed?
www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/robs-imperial-twisted-stout-all-grain-kit/
@@themaltmiller8438 Thx!
I see you add protfloc to this recipe. Is their a difference in the body if you don’t add it. Will it still clear but with nicer head retention.
No difference in the body as this tends to be driven by the residual sugars in the beer after fermentation, adding protofloc however does help remove the cold break proteins and give you a clearer beer at the end
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Just wondering why you didnt raise the temp for mash out? was it just a mash at 68C
We wanted to keep it simple and don't have a heating option in the mash tun. If you had a HERMS set up then that would work a treat!
@@themaltmiller8438 so is a raised temp (75/77) for mash out nessesery nowadays
@@scottlannganlannigan2704 No, but it can be helpful. The raised temperature helps keep the grain bed fluid and stops the mash sticking.
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I got banned from kitchen brewing right after the wallpaper fell off.
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hahahaaha My Mrs was sick of the sticky floor the next morning