I absolutely love this movement of the premodern format. This is the era and game design feel that I loved the most. It has so much room for creativity with a large card pool, but doesn’t contain the type of power creep seen today. No chase mythics, no planeswalkers, and still limitless potential to feel like classic Magic.
Best magic format ever. Have been playing leagues with my friends every month for a year and a half now. It’s a the point now where it honestly feels like magic wouldn’t be the same without it. So thanks for creating this incredible format, martin. Love from denmark
Thank you for creating this format! I started playing in 1996 with Alliances and the Odyssey/Onslaught Standard was the high point of my Magic days. I'm really hoping I can get my LGS to support this and start having playgroups or events.
I was introduced to this format a little while back, and it sucked me back in time to when MTG meant the most to me. I have long felt that today's magic isn't meant for me, with the billions of new set releases and puke commander everywhere. Premodern is where it's at. It isna seemingly obvious formst, but I am glad you reminded us where we belonged all along.
So I started playing Magic with Champions of Kamigawa (2005) All this is new to me, besides of the staples that I have to use in commander. Very hype for this discovery!
@@Cynidecia right on. I could probably be on board with that. New phyrexia was when they introduced planeswalkers, right? It also makes choosing a commander or general more of a challenge.
@@chriszablocki2460 Lorwyn was when they introduced planeswalkers. And part of the appeal IMO is more of a challenge figuring out how what Generals to play and how to build a deck. IMO it's more satisfying because you need to research deeper and figure things out.
@@Cynidecia I dig it. So we get some of the early planeswalkers, but nothing over the top like Atraxa or anything. It kind of sets me back on my plans. I was thinking about building a five color control deck with The Ur Dragon, and running a few doublestrike instants. Maybe I just build both. Mission first, though. Get a 6 figure job to pay for my MTG fix. 😆
it doesn't need to grow in cardpool to grow in terms of playernumbers, the fact that you can play any variant of a printing of a legal card is what keeps the cost fairly low (excluding reserved list cards). Many staples like StP, have so many printings that they are dirt cheap, the manabase keeps getting reprints with Painlands and Fetches every couple years. The second biggest appeal after the nostalgia for the format is it's stability. Since no new cards can be added you can play your deck basically forever (which was the main appeal for Legacy before Modern Horizon 1). Another point is that thou some strategies like Oath of Druids can feel overwhelming and unfair there are always out's for every deck (which is a big reason why Enchantment-removal in the mainboard is so common), it lacks that feeling of inevitability more modern Magiccards have like Atraxa for example in current Standard
Great vid. If you have the time, I have a question about creating a format and would really appreciate your input as you've done so well! Format Name: 'Immortal Standard' Card Pool: All cards that have ever been in Standard or early MtG Equivilant Starting Ban List: The Modern Ban List, The Legacy Ban list, The Reserved list Meta Goals: Diverse meta with a wide array of tier 1 and tier 1.5 decks, consisting of highly interactive and highly skilled gameplay. The idea is to create a format that only consists of cards having been in standard to act as a kind of protection from things like Modern Horizons and Secret lair cards. Being clear, I love Modern Horizons! But I find that something has been lost from Legacy and Modern recently as instead of being a place for old cards where decks very rarely change, they are now much more dynamic formats. With Immortal standard, the goal would be to have a meta that doesn't change TOO much, but still can be effected by releases occasiionally and where the Mana base isn't as insanely expensive as Legacy. Do you have any thoughts on something like this? Other people have commented that blue would be very good and would probably need some bans, but baning force of will for this format might just be too much. Anyway great vid dude.
I absolutely love this movement of the premodern format. This is the era and game design feel that I loved the most. It has so much room for creativity with a large card pool, but doesn’t contain the type of power creep seen today. No chase mythics, no planeswalkers, and still limitless potential to feel like classic Magic.
Best magic format ever. Have been playing leagues with my friends every month for a year and a half now. It’s a the point now where it honestly feels like magic wouldn’t be the same without it. So thanks for creating this incredible format, martin. Love from denmark
This format saved magic for me, thank you so much for making it a thing.
Premodern is my favorite format. Thank you Martin Berlin ! 👍
Ace video. I love premodern era cards, just need a few more players in my area
Thank you for creating this format! I started playing in 1996 with Alliances and the Odyssey/Onslaught Standard was the high point of my Magic days. I'm really hoping I can get my LGS to support this and start having playgroups or events.
I was introduced to this format a little while back, and it sucked me back in time to when MTG meant the most to me. I have long felt that today's magic isn't meant for me, with the billions of new set releases and puke commander everywhere. Premodern is where it's at. It isna seemingly obvious formst, but I am glad you reminded us where we belonged all along.
Great format, i started in 95, Thanks for taking the time!!!!!!!!!!
1:15 Casualy looking for cards in box rewinding Mox Diamond :D
Love the format, art, borders and flavor!
Best format ever ! Lets Play !
I really love the format, but I think that Premodern will grow stronger when allows golden border cards. Cheers from Chile.
Grande Chile!!!!!
It is up to the tournament organizer to allow Golden border cards
Nice work ! mora videos ... more !!!
a community born by nostalgia, with a format that is technically based on casual play...technically.
So I started playing Magic with Champions of Kamigawa (2005) All this is new to me, besides of the staples that I have to use in commander. Very hype for this discovery!
One of The best vídeos of UA-cam. Tks my Bro.
Takes me back. Started in 1998 and loved that era. Will have to pick this up. Looks like theres a good scene in Sweden too!
swedishfool91 where are you from? Maybe I could hit you up with someone who plays :)
@@gordonandersson living in Enköping, so very close to Stockholm. Would be nice to start playing again with some like-minded dudes.
swedishfool91 hit me up on Facebook (same name and pic) and we’ll fix something!
Premodern and PreDH are the only magic formats truly worth it nowadays IMO
PreDH is edh in the same pool of pre modern?
@@chriszablocki2460 PreDH is everything Before the first Commander Precon decks. So nothing after New Phyrexia.
@@Cynidecia right on. I could probably be on board with that. New phyrexia was when they introduced planeswalkers, right? It also makes choosing a commander or general more of a challenge.
@@chriszablocki2460 Lorwyn was when they introduced planeswalkers. And part of the appeal IMO is more of a challenge figuring out how what Generals to play and how to build a deck. IMO it's more satisfying because you need to research deeper and figure things out.
@@Cynidecia I dig it. So we get some of the early planeswalkers, but nothing over the top like Atraxa or anything. It kind of sets me back on my plans. I was thinking about building a five color control deck with The Ur Dragon, and running a few doublestrike instants. Maybe I just build both. Mission first, though. Get a 6 figure job to pay for my MTG fix. 😆
Nice work!
Should probably publish this video on the main page of the site :)
Mattias Berggren tell that to Berlin as I think the same :)
This is where it begun.
Interesting format but how will the format grow if no new cards are introduced into the format?
it doesn't need to grow in cardpool to grow in terms of playernumbers, the fact that you can play any variant of a printing of a legal card is what keeps the cost fairly low (excluding reserved list cards). Many staples like StP, have so many printings that they are dirt cheap, the manabase keeps getting reprints with Painlands and Fetches every couple years. The second biggest appeal after the nostalgia for the format is it's stability. Since no new cards can be added you can play your deck basically forever (which was the main appeal for Legacy before Modern Horizon 1).
Another point is that thou some strategies like Oath of Druids can feel overwhelming and unfair there are always out's for every deck (which is a big reason why Enchantment-removal in the mainboard is so common), it lacks that feeling of inevitability more modern Magiccards have like Atraxa for example in current Standard
You look like Mac form Always Sunny
My favourite format either
Great vid.
If you have the time, I have a question about creating a format and would really appreciate your input as you've done so well!
Format Name: 'Immortal Standard'
Card Pool: All cards that have ever been in Standard or early MtG Equivilant
Starting Ban List: The Modern Ban List, The Legacy Ban list, The Reserved list
Meta Goals: Diverse meta with a wide array of tier 1 and tier 1.5 decks, consisting of highly interactive and highly skilled gameplay.
The idea is to create a format that only consists of cards having been in standard to act as a kind of protection from things like Modern Horizons and Secret lair cards.
Being clear, I love Modern Horizons! But I find that something has been lost from Legacy and Modern recently as instead of being a place for old cards where decks very rarely change, they are now much more dynamic formats.
With Immortal standard, the goal would be to have a meta that doesn't change TOO much, but still can be effected by releases occasiionally and where the Mana base isn't as insanely expensive as Legacy.
Do you have any thoughts on something like this? Other people have commented that blue would be very good and would probably need some bans, but baning force of will for this format might just be too much.
Anyway great vid dude.
The best format!!!
Superb video! Anybody playing in Spain ?
Manuel Amperio thanks! And absolutley! We just held the european championship in Madrid. Join the facebook groups and you’ll find people playing :)
ahh those near mint cards are making me jealous
he is an hero
thanks for this!
Snyggt! GG WP!
I have 4 decks already...
Premodern BIBE
Now, playing premodern is almost as expensive as legacy ...same thing.
This is Old School....when? XD
Unfortunately it’ll get prohibitively more expensive the bigger it gets
Because players with big collections and rich players won’t allow proxies. Netrunner is fine with all proxies. Oh well.
@@alpha1beta1gamma nETRUNNER DIED BRO
Cool format, but its so sad that the rules changes have gimped Morphling.
best era but like most magic will be worse becuase people will play control and op decks which arent fun
Then you should really have a look at the decks that do well in tournaments. It is a VERY wide field of decks you can top8 with. :)