They need a 3 step plan: A) separate Lake Pontchartrain and Lake Borgne from the ocean to protect from storm surge (similar to Amsterdam constructing walls to divide them from the North Sea) B) construct canals to allow more water to flow through the city and provide transportation channels for boats (Just like Venice) C) find ways to allow sediment to be deposited into the Gulf of Mexico and form new swampland which acts like a natural shield against storms and absorbs water like a sponge
all of this. we have begun redepositing sediment, funnily enough the largest of these was caused by a levee failure in an unpopulated area where the removal of that levee was being fought. the canal idea should have remained in place. many of the bayous which are now basically drainage canals used to be used this way. flooded places with shallow water used to see houseboats and camps and pirogues before they drained the neighborhoods to make midcentury McNhoods [which are all now slums]. honestly with the state government more focused on fighting lawsuits about unconstitutional state religion mandates than practicing their religion and actually helping anyone, just go visit now. I now live in the mountains about 500 miles northeast. my mother is 70, and I believe there's about a 50/50 shot she will live to see New Orleans go underwater. most local home owners with disposable income also have a whole second home they rent out or let friends or family use.... because they know they and or their kids will need to have a whole ass extra house out of the area someday. also 2024 is a la nina year. two more words: hurricane season.
I didn't really understand how such flooring actually affected the city until the last day I was there it stormed for a few hours and my Uber driver to the airport showed me some neighborhoods that already had streets that were completely impassable and even the road to the airport was covered in such deep water that everyone had to reroute. If one afternoon of heavy ish rain fan shut down as many roads as I saw I can imagine how a single hurricane could devestate the city.
My man did you just say the Mississippi river had never seen civilization? Has he heard of ancient indigenous empires and societies? My man you can’t give American history and ignore indigenous communities that were destroyed by the people who first took over the area.
I emigrated from New Orleans because the local government has shown it cannot effectively protect the city for it's future (or present). I would love for the city to find a way through and prosper once more. But it's just hard to see it from where we are right now. Required Edit: Its New Or-lens. Not New Or-leens. :)
I don’t think anyone could save the city, the Mississippi River naturally ebbs and flows over the course of centuries so fixing it in one location for NOLA’s benefit was never going to work. Couple that with climate change, more intense hurricanes, and rising sea levels means the inevitable is merely being delayed.
No. It’s named after the French city of Orleans in honor of the Duke of Orleans, Phillip II. Therefore, it’s original naming is probably more closely to “OR-LEENS”. It’s the same shit I hear with Louisville. “ ItS LoO-VaL” 🤤. What?…..How? It’s named after King Luis XVI. It’s LOO-E-VILL. As it would have been pronounced in French Dialect. I don’t understand the mispronunciation of people’s cities that is completely off from its spelling or history. Is it to be cool or something? Fit in? I don’t get it.
disagree. like the video says, exploiting groundwater has detrimental effects. One effect is sinking (the reasoning behind that also explained in the video). Silly me, I forgot we were post-truth. It’s easier to see the subject of the video, don’t bother watching it because ‘you have a better opinion’, write your opinion which gets likes by like-minded idiots, in turn validating your incorrect opinion unbeknownst to you. Over time all of you idiots believe one another, and truth no longer matters. This process is why the idiots don’t believe scientists, because there are far more idiots that agree with your stupidity than scientists exposing the ridiculousness of your views. US is smashing their groundwater. You’ve got a decade other two (at the very most) left. The whole global civilisation is more fragile than we like to admit.
Dutch Never solved their own ocean problem. They just lied about it so the foreign investors won't get out too soon. Their own NEED solution is not practical. Dutch are experienced with water management very good but there is no such thing as Ocean management.
New Orleans is easily the most unique city in America I love it, it’s like you’re in a different country entirely it’s a damn shame that the infrastructure is so bad
Glad one of my favorite UA-camrs made a video on my home city! I give a pass to non-American English speakers, but for future reference it would be pronounced New Ore-lens. Like the ore of a boat and a glasses lens. Overall great video!
The sad irony is that the city which has beauty and historical value is doomed, while mediocre ones are safe. It is hard to let go, if your city is one of the most unique in the country, it's not like New Orleans can be recreated. It would be one of the most interesting ghost-town for the future generations, an Atlantida of sorts along with Venice and Saint Petersburg.
@@CarbinKidactually, it was documented that they were leaning BEFORE Katrina in years 2002-2003 but nothing was done about it. Now there’s floodgates and new levees to prevent such. Also, in 2021, Ida was a borderline Cat 5, and guess what? New Orleans was fine.
You can say that for people who move there, but not for people born & raised there whose entire family is there. New Orleans people put family above most things.
I wish the government would give money to help the cities. Such a beautiful and unique place and part of American history. It’s so sad to watch it struggle and hurt
im not trying to sound like an asshole i say this out of genuine concern for the treasure that is New Orleans and its people. but the simple fact of the matter is you can only fight mother nature so much before she snaps and shows you who’s in charge. the beauty of mother earth is she is self healing and will always win in the end. when your entire city sits at most just a few feet above sea level, and almost half of it at or below sea level, and surrounded on 3 side by water, it’s a battle you’re going to eventually lose especially with climate change. we’ve soon through history that towns sometimes will just straight up pack up and MOVE the entire town to a new location to avoid the flooding and fight with mother nature. it’s also exacerbated by the fact the mississippi river is desperately trying to snap over westward near Vidalia, but because the port of New Orleans is so crucial they built the river control system to prevent this. simply put, new orleans is screwed. i genuinely think it’d be best to start building a port near Vidalia and allowing the river to move course, move whatever historic sites and landmarks we can, and help people relocate out of the area
I’m from Houma, a bayou area southwest of New Orleans. What you say is true. It’s sad, but true. We won’t save this area..the salt water intrusion and never ending hurricanes have doomed this area. There are many who are determined to stay, but I know when it’s time to fold my hand. Our insurance has shot up to 6k/yr and will continue to rise (that’s not including flood insurance). We’re early 40’s with a family. Our entire families are here…have always been here..born, live and died here. It’s daunting to try to “pick a place to start over” with no family or knowing the ends and outs of a new place. Most of us are here because of family and oil industry jobs. Plus it really is a great place. Great food and great neighbors. I’m taking any good ideas to move.
@@Bayoubebe If y'all love Houma, I highly recommend northern Alabama near the TVA lakes. my people are from Jeannette and Baldwin, I know where it's at. it's like the bayou with a mountain view, similar folks [well.... the Cat'licks are, anyhow], low property taxes, y'all can keep the boats or even find a split level bywater. we left Met-rey for Chattanooga Metro in 2006, and it's still like living in a foreign country when I talk wit dem locals [all dem folks t'ink we Brooklyn], but we worry less and know this land will survive us. we went from the lowest plot of land in Airline Park [-8 feet] to the highest hill in this part of town [800 feet]. I worry more about erosion than I ever will about flooding here [in my spot leastways] again. we took the yellow family daylillies from Baldwin, and they love it here. Banana trees even come back after winter in the valleys. I will be planting a bald cypress this autumn, and experimenting with Spanish Moss in my trees, it does endure winters near this altitude in South Carolina. we get cold, but usually nothing our grandparents didn't see back in the Parish, it just hangs around a few days longer at a time than we're used to. the kids and grandkids will love dat sneaux couple times a year. it gets hot when it's supposed to be, but 98 yesterday with 40% humidity was like "....yea you rite." my dream is Delta blues in Portland, Zydeco in Nashville, Mardi Gras in Manhattan and LA, and Louisiana cooking from sea to shining sea. the federal government and nature try to bury us, but they don't know we're all just spicy seeds. we will endure, Evangeline is ours for the taking. bless y'all, fam. don't never give up the fight.
@@deepbluesouth the cat-licks 🤣🤣 I love it. I’ve been eyeing northern AL and GA for a while. I think you are talking about the Guntersville area outside of Huntsville…yeah, I eye that spot often and it looks mighty nice. Feel we need to find a place with water for my husband bc I don’t know what he’d do without fishing🙃 I’m a nurse here and have some of my old patients that moved to that area after Ida. Trying to soak up all of the info I can on different areas so I really appreciate your comment. We’re all slowly disbursing….spreading our spicy seeds everywhere 🥳 my dream would be to open a cajun restaurant somewhere else and blow their socks off!!
I have an idea! Replace all the houses with boats, stores with barges, and warehouses with Ships and let it become a semi floating city. It would be like America’s Venice.
@@joelspaulding5964 well no but the idea is that we make it a floating city or a city where water transportation and walking are the only two ways of getting around.
thank you. YEA, there was a LOT beyond hurricanes and flood control and local history that an hour fact checking on wikipedia could have helped with. the river is even animated as running backwards at least twice.
A proposal, dig out under the road ways to make water access ways during flood events. Basically keep a layer for cars to pass over but water to flow underneath. It would also eliminate weight put on the city
That would require destroying and rebuilding roads. Not to mention digging channels in a city mostly at or below sea level will need pumps because if you dig you’ll hit water. It’s too expensive and the city isn’t going to take an option like this.
we tried that twice. they thought they dutch were asking for more than necessary, paid them for consult, and sent them packing..... like locks and a sea wall along the lake and reflooding or greenspacing most of New Orleans East would even help..... it's not like they would know or anything. /sarcasm
@@deepbluesouth wow i cant believe they would blow them off like that, considering what the Dutch know. im sure they definitely ended up paying more to rebuild than it would have been to follow the dutch advice.
Dutch Never solved their own ocean problem. They just lied about it so the foreign investors won't get out too soon. Their own NEED solution is not practical. Dutch are experienced with water management very good but there is no such thing as Ocean management.
New Orleans is on the ecotone for mangroves and salt marshes! It's actually really cool, it's warm enough on average to support a mangrove but it's too far north that the winter cold snaps stunt/kill off maturing mangroves, leaving marsh grass as the dominant plant!!! I agree tho definitely more plants and nature the better!!!!!
We have a corrupt inept government of fools in this state. They cause a lot of land loss by building canals which caused saltwater intrusion, which is a reason a lot of Louisiana has disappeared on the edges.
there is a plan underway, it involves some special root ball designed for mangrove sapling drops, but even if they are still doing the drops, they said it would take 5-10 years to understand if it can even work effectively.
i’m sure all those money wasted on ineffective projects dealing with the flooding problem could have already exceeded the total cost of relocating all the city residents.
correct. the big money wanted to do this after Katrina, gradually relocate everything and fix up Baton Rouge to combine the cities. it should have remained a long term plan. they could even have used the new flood map and said "grace period two or three years after Katrina; after which nobody is allowed to rebuild below this". they have nothing but great ideas, but they just don't wanna. kept NOLA dry last two storms, but it flooded equally populated areas in poorer parishes [countes], like it has for 100 years now. I pity the fools moving there now. usually gentrification makes me say, they get what they get, but there is only one right way to move in NOLA metro: away it was once a great city, but it's just future atlantis. go visit now.
i know you cant just abandon a large city for several reasons. it would be total caos. but maybe they should think about slowly moving the city to higher land thru the next decades. progressively building infrastructure and stimulating construction in nearby safer land, slowly depopulating the more flood prone land... i'm sure "moving" an entire city is impossible, but maybe slowly making it "slide" towards higher ground upstream along the river could be possible as a state project for the next 75 years or whatever?
the Big Money wanted to slow roll a plan to relocate everything to Baton Rouge, focus most rebuilding money into expanding Baton Rouge dramatically. NOLA would drift to more tourism/hospitality and less business, which honestly it has been for over 40 years now already. Tom Benson even DESPERATELY tried to move the Saints to anyone who would take them, probably because they tried so hard to focus on gradually emptying NOLA. smart money is that's still happening, there are still likely hundreds of still untouched Katrina houses. everywhere else is gentrifying and mostly westerners and foreign nationals residents with enough money are coming in. two years ago, the new post K systems were all tested. they passed. had they not been there, or say had Katrina never broken those levees in 2005, New Orleans would have flooded all over again, just about as bad. two years ago. next capital "S" Storm WILL be in our lifetimes, and it will likely be the last straw. I was born and raised in New Orleans, left nine months after The Storm to never return to live, my lifelong plan for such a storm growing up. Katrina was not a worst case scenario, it was a wakeup call, shot across the bow. MAYBE 6.5 - 7 out of ten in scale. a 9/10 and worse will see a stronger storm than Katrina, something like Camille or Mitch or the infamous Labor Day hurricane hitting the delta directly thru to NOLA, carrying a 35-40 foot storm surge UP the mouth of the mississippi, much like MRGO [Mississippi River Gulf Outlet] did before we dammed that closed after Katrina. the ships float past the French Quarter ABOVE the second story windows. if the Mississippi floods from that bad of a hurricane, and it has not done so in known [modern] history, being anywhere on the southshore below five stories will be like being on the lower decks of the Titanic quick, fast, and in a hurry.
New Orleans was named after Phillipe, Duc de Orleans, who served as regent for his nephew, Louis XV (1705-1774) for 8 years until he grew up. Essentially, this city that's half below sea level was founded by a Duke who spent most of his life half seas over.
An added complication is that the Mississippi River keeps trying to flow down the Atchafalaya River to a new outlet on the coast. Historically, the Mississippi has changed course regularly, and only stays in its current bed due to the efforts of the Army Corp of Engineers. Eventually, the Corp is going to lose that battle. When that happens, no more sediment and no more fresh water will flow through New Orleans. The delta will melt away, and the Port of New Orleans will become a saltwater port instead of a freshwater port, which will require expensive adaptations. A better use of money would be to relocate the city and port to a site on the Atchafalaya River with more favorable geology. Plan and dig a new port and channel for the Mississippi River, which will hopefully be easier to maintain. Then move everyone. The Mississippi River and a port near its mouth is vital for trade; since we can't prevent the loss without going bankrupt, it would be better to move those functions to align with where nature is intending to go.
New Orleans should team up with a city in a dry area somewhere, like say Amarillo, Texas, to build a pipeline to transport flood water to a reservoir in the desert. This way they could share the cost and both benefit.
Yeah, water just moves upwards... Can you imagine how much it would cost to build such a Strukturen and how much more damage would be done to the ecosystem of the Delta? Were you homeschooled? Are you smoking Crack?
Because if the flood is from the Gulf, it's salt water. I'd it's from Lake Ponchatrain, it's brackish (salt & freshwater combined). Then you would have a body of water that, as time passed and evaporation occurred, would gain salinity, killing off local plant life.
At a certain point it will just be cheaper to reconstruct a new exact copy of New Orleans in a different location and move everyone there, instead of continually trying to save something that can’t be saved long term.
Also, New Orleans needs a new drainage system. But the only place that can fix our pumps is making submarines for the US navy. So basically the US is prioritizing submarines for international war rather than save a city with millions of people (me being one of them). We care more about wars than civilians.
Very informative video. I hope the people in NOLA continue to fight for their city. But what can we do, corporations are killing the earth. What can we do...
Earthquakes to the west, hurricanes to the east, tornado Alley in the heart of the country and a volcano to the north and water to the south. fun fact, Miami run their pumps every day, regardless if it rains or not, because if they don’t, the streets will flood look it up. and New York isn’t safe either that was a category two hurricane! my question to you 🤡 who are saying just move why are people still living in Los Angeles and San Francisco The big one is coming right! why are people still living in Arkansas? Tornadoes are in tornado alley right! 😂 yall funny 😂😂 there’s no where to run
correct. they were removing virgin bald cypress in canals dug to float the 20-30 story trees, then near the towns or along the river, they milled them for the railroads to send out. the last of these are said to have been removed over 100 years ago. [Wikipedia] the virgin cypress wood that survives in some homes and buildings is likely some of the most valuable repurposed wood on such markets in the US.
New Orleans, it’s suburbs and much of Louisiana is low laying and marshy. A large part of this swampy coastal region should have never been settled and built on in the first place.
As a resident of the French Quarter of the city we don't see the flooding at all. The French were right that it was the highest ground and it still is. Most of the houses don't sit on the ground at all, they are built with from 6" in the oldest houses to 2 feet in the more "modern" ones (1850 on) of empty space under them to allow for drainage. This is common in many other areas as well. The Quarter is not the only high ground around and many places still never flood. Of course it doesn't alleviate major flooding, and it is true that some places flood regularly; however, this is not new By the way, one of the ideas that the whole city flooded during Katrina is not true. One of the problems is that as the city grew more low land was used to build housing and the poor people who settled there are now paying the price. You have one major error in your calculations however. The city is not sinking anywhere as fast as you imply and major areas will still be habitable for a long time to come.
I had a roommate who taught geology at a local college and he said this area is a fantastic course study in itself and a terrible place to build. Period
Also is the river at different times depending on rain upstream sinking and rising whilst the Gulf depending on accelerating GHG emissions rising and depending on hurricanes sinking?
New Orleans gets it water directly from the Mississippi ,it does not use well water. Many of the areas below New Orleans have gotten their water from large wooden cisterns that collect the abundant rain water.
Sinking is a given in NOLA and outside (unincorporated) but close suburbs. We use pumped in "riversand" to fill our land. We top off occasionally and buy "a load of sand". I do NOT see it speeding up in my lifetime of 73 years. The only saving grace is our canals, levees, and pumping stations. When those are maintained properly they work VERY well. When crooked politicians get involved, those essentials can fail like during Katrina. FAILED POLITICS is the lion's share of the problem.
If you're gonna talk about New Orleans, please don't use footage from the Mississippi Gulf Coast during Katrina bc alot of footage was from my hometown that got destroyed
Never that just that during that time everyone was stuck on New Orleans when the Gulfcoast was destroyed. So that footage makes it look like it was N.O when it was the Ms Gulfcoast
Boii y'all Be on these platforms Reaching 😂 Knowing Dam well This not go happen 😂 this been said for yrs by ppl who Don't live in New orleans or even close just visited 😂
I’m tired of bailing out cities like this because they refuse to give up and move. In 100 year this place will be completely gone and taxpayers will have nothing to show
One thing we currently have to show for it is a navigable Mississippi river, and if we let the delta just go to nature by not bailing them out, then it'll almost certainly become unnavigable and ruin the economy.
The city I grew up in, Norfolk, Virginia, is also famous for the sea wanting to take it back. In our case, the issue is more from ocean level rising. I hope we can learn from the situation New Orleans is in now and take action before it's too late.
Native Americans have lived in 'New Orleans' well before 1700 and were part of a wider civilization. I don't know why he doesn't consider Indigenous communities comparable to the European perspective of what classifies a city in the first place.
Why do people keep living in areas that obviously can not handle people living in them.. I just dont get it. It's the definition of insanity. Not to mention the waste of resources and money. And yes Vegas, Phoenix, and cities like them are on are on that list of insanity cities (Peggy Hill was right)
Family and culture….its always easy for ppl to say stuff like this when you don’t live in a place that moving would require you to leave your entire family/ support system.
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Enoring global warming has got you here! Your vote has done this. Giving deniers power you have screwed your selfs.
You can drain rivers.
You can drain lakes.
You can never drain the ocean.
They need a 3 step plan:
A) separate Lake Pontchartrain and Lake Borgne from the ocean to protect from storm surge (similar to Amsterdam constructing walls to divide them from the North Sea)
B) construct canals to allow more water to flow through the city and provide transportation channels for boats (Just like Venice)
C) find ways to allow sediment to be deposited into the Gulf of Mexico and form new swampland which acts like a natural shield against storms and absorbs water like a sponge
B & C already exists. New Orleans has canals all over town, and they have tried to collect sediment by natural means, but it hasn’t worked
all of this. we have begun redepositing sediment, funnily enough the largest of these was caused by a levee failure in an unpopulated area where the removal of that levee was being fought. the canal idea should have remained in place. many of the bayous which are now basically drainage canals used to be used this way. flooded places with shallow water used to see houseboats and camps and pirogues before they drained the neighborhoods to make midcentury McNhoods [which are all now slums].
honestly with the state government more focused on fighting lawsuits about unconstitutional state religion mandates than practicing their religion and actually helping anyone, just go visit now. I now live in the mountains about 500 miles northeast. my mother is 70, and I believe there's about a 50/50 shot she will live to see New Orleans go underwater. most local home owners with disposable income also have a whole second home they rent out or let friends or family use.... because they know they and or their kids will need to have a whole ass extra house out of the area someday. also 2024 is a la nina year. two more words: hurricane season.
Too bad the state and city gov are doing everything in their power to not actually do anything
b-but... the 10 commandments.... [dark sarcasm]
they spent decades building levees only for them to collapse in 2005.
🤣basically
I didn't really understand how such flooring actually affected the city until the last day I was there it stormed for a few hours and my Uber driver to the airport showed me some neighborhoods that already had streets that were completely impassable and even the road to the airport was covered in such deep water that everyone had to reroute. If one afternoon of heavy ish rain fan shut down as many roads as I saw I can imagine how a single hurricane could devestate the city.
My man did you just say the Mississippi river had never seen civilization? Has he heard of ancient indigenous empires and societies? My man you can’t give American history and ignore indigenous communities that were destroyed by the people who first took over the area.
Yeah wtf the river can't have a name without people being there first. Hutson river is just a river otherwise.
Exactly…. He’s doing the same thing the school books did🤦🏾♂️
Civilization 😂😂😂 yea ok bud
Facts just skip right pass the civilization of indigenous people and what was their land.
Tell the truth dude get your information right
I emigrated from New Orleans because the local government has shown it cannot effectively protect the city for it's future (or present). I would love for the city to find a way through and prosper once more. But it's just hard to see it from where we are right now.
Required Edit: Its New Or-lens. Not New Or-leens. :)
Actually it's pronounced O' shin
new oh-sheet
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I don’t think anyone could save the city, the Mississippi River naturally ebbs and flows over the course of centuries so fixing it in one location for NOLA’s benefit was never going to work. Couple that with climate change, more intense hurricanes, and rising sea levels means the inevitable is merely being delayed.
No. It’s named after the French city of Orleans in honor of the Duke of Orleans, Phillip II. Therefore, it’s original naming is probably more closely to “OR-LEENS”.
It’s the same shit I hear with Louisville. “ ItS LoO-VaL” 🤤. What?…..How? It’s named after King Luis XVI. It’s LOO-E-VILL. As it would have been pronounced in French Dialect.
I don’t understand the mispronunciation of people’s cities that is completely off from its spelling or history. Is it to be cool or something? Fit in? I don’t get it.
Houston is also sinking its below sea level.
Manhattan too.
Measures created to prevent flooding ironically led to more flooding.
disagree. like the video says, exploiting groundwater has detrimental effects. One effect is sinking (the reasoning behind that also explained in the video).
Silly me, I forgot we were post-truth. It’s easier to see the subject of the video, don’t bother watching it because ‘you have a better opinion’, write your opinion which gets likes by like-minded idiots, in turn validating your incorrect opinion unbeknownst to you. Over time all of you idiots believe one another, and truth no longer matters. This process is why the idiots don’t believe scientists, because there are far more idiots that agree with your stupidity than scientists exposing the ridiculousness of your views.
US is smashing their groundwater. You’ve got a decade other two (at the very most) left. The whole global civilisation is more fragile than we like to admit.
Ask the Dutch for help..The Netherlands had the same problem..they solved it..
Because it's not worth the effort
Dutch Never solved their own ocean problem. They just lied about it so the foreign investors won't get out too soon.
Their own NEED solution is not practical. Dutch are experienced with water management very good but there is no such thing as Ocean management.
New Orleans is easily the most unique city in America I love it, it’s like you’re in a different country entirely it’s a damn shame that the infrastructure is so bad
We won’t save it
Yea as a person who was 3yr in Katrina the water was up to my second story (7ft)
Nothing is more or less unique. It either is or it isn't. There are no degrees of "uniqueness. It indicates a single example. No other can exist.
City has a very strange eerie feeling to it too when you visit
Glad one of my favorite UA-camrs made a video on my home city! I give a pass to non-American English speakers, but for future reference it would be pronounced New Ore-lens. Like the ore of a boat and a glasses lens. Overall great video!
New O'shin
Wooow lmao @dsxa918
Bro never heard of different types of accents before😭😭😭😭
Same
@@justinrichardson9554 if only trolls were as funny as they think they are, the internet would be the funniest fecking place on earth.
The sad irony is that the city which has beauty and historical value is doomed, while mediocre ones are safe. It is hard to let go, if your city is one of the most unique in the country, it's not like New Orleans can be recreated. It would be one of the most interesting ghost-town for the future generations, an Atlantida of sorts along with Venice and Saint Petersburg.
isnt most of new orleans just a sad city with alot of poor people with a tiny tourist part thats old and historical ?
I visited New Orleans in 2019 and it’s a really cool place, I hope they can keep the city from sinking away
The levees failed due to improper maintenance.
The levees failed because waters unbeatable
You know those politicians need that money more than the city does! C’mon man! 🙃
@@CarbinKidactually, it was documented that they were leaning BEFORE Katrina in years 2002-2003 but nothing was done about it. Now there’s floodgates and new levees to prevent such. Also, in 2021, Ida was a borderline Cat 5, and guess what? New Orleans was fine.
@@Dee-pm8tl Thank God.
The levees were blown up by dynamite
WHY do people just continue to insist on living places not meant for people to live.
Dang we a hard headed bunch.
You've never been there!
You can say that for people who move there, but not for people born & raised there whose entire family is there. New Orleans people put family above most things.
New Orleans was perfectly fine to live in for over 400 years
@@worldofdoom995 With less crooked politics it could go another 400.
NOLA Aint Gonna Flood....
I wish the government would give money to help the cities. Such a beautiful and unique place and part of American history. It’s so sad to watch it struggle and hurt
The Government has and the local Government abused it.
USA governme my don't give money to USA to help lol they send it to other countries
im not trying to sound like an asshole i say this out of genuine concern for the treasure that is New Orleans and its people. but the simple fact of the matter is you can only fight mother nature so much before she snaps and shows you who’s in charge. the beauty of mother earth is she is self healing and will always win in the end. when your entire city sits at most just a few feet above sea level, and almost half of it at or below sea level, and surrounded on 3 side by water, it’s a battle you’re going to eventually lose especially with climate change. we’ve soon through history that towns sometimes will just straight up pack up and MOVE the entire town to a new location to avoid the flooding and fight with mother nature. it’s also exacerbated by the fact the mississippi river is desperately trying to snap over westward near Vidalia, but because the port of New Orleans is so crucial they built the river control system to prevent this. simply put, new orleans is screwed. i genuinely think it’d be best to start building a port near Vidalia and allowing the river to move course, move whatever historic sites and landmarks we can, and help people relocate out of the area
Would it cost the government money?
If yes : won't happen
Indeed there are a fair number of once burgeoning cities and towns... completely submerged for many decades...
I’m from Houma, a bayou area southwest of New Orleans. What you say is true. It’s sad, but true. We won’t save this area..the salt water intrusion and never ending hurricanes have doomed this area. There are many who are determined to stay, but I know when it’s time to fold my hand. Our insurance has shot up to 6k/yr and will continue to rise (that’s not including flood insurance). We’re early 40’s with a family. Our entire families are here…have always been here..born, live and died here. It’s daunting to try to “pick a place to start over” with no family or knowing the ends and outs of a new place. Most of us are here because of family and oil industry jobs. Plus it really is a great place. Great food and great neighbors. I’m taking any good ideas to move.
@@Bayoubebe If y'all love Houma, I highly recommend northern Alabama near the TVA lakes. my people are from Jeannette and Baldwin, I know where it's at. it's like the bayou with a mountain view, similar folks [well.... the Cat'licks are, anyhow], low property taxes, y'all can keep the boats or even find a split level bywater. we left Met-rey for Chattanooga Metro in 2006, and it's still like living in a foreign country when I talk wit dem locals [all dem folks t'ink we Brooklyn], but we worry less and know this land will survive us. we went from the lowest plot of land in Airline Park [-8 feet] to the highest hill in this part of town [800 feet]. I worry more about erosion than I ever will about flooding here [in my spot leastways] again. we took the yellow family daylillies from Baldwin, and they love it here. Banana trees even come back after winter in the valleys. I will be planting a bald cypress this autumn, and experimenting with Spanish Moss in my trees, it does endure winters near this altitude in South Carolina. we get cold, but usually nothing our grandparents didn't see back in the Parish, it just hangs around a few days longer at a time than we're used to. the kids and grandkids will love dat sneaux couple times a year. it gets hot when it's supposed to be, but 98 yesterday with 40% humidity was like "....yea you rite."
my dream is Delta blues in Portland, Zydeco in Nashville, Mardi Gras in Manhattan and LA, and Louisiana cooking from sea to shining sea. the federal government and nature try to bury us, but they don't know we're all just spicy seeds. we will endure, Evangeline is ours for the taking. bless y'all, fam. don't never give up the fight.
@@deepbluesouth the cat-licks 🤣🤣 I love it. I’ve been eyeing northern AL and GA for a while. I think you are talking about the Guntersville area outside of Huntsville…yeah, I eye that spot often and it looks mighty nice. Feel we need to find a place with water for my husband bc I don’t know what he’d do without fishing🙃 I’m a nurse here and have some of my old patients that moved to that area after Ida. Trying to soak up all of the info I can on different areas so I really appreciate your comment. We’re all slowly disbursing….spreading our spicy seeds everywhere 🥳 my dream would be to open a cajun restaurant somewhere else and blow their socks off!!
Move…….. there’s no amount of money that is going to provide a return that justifies saving this place.
“New Orleans is sinking man and I don’t want to swim”. Can’t help but think of The Tragically Hip when I clicked on this video.
Same here 😊
My memory is muddy what's this river that I'm in
I have an idea! Replace all the houses with boats, stores with barges, and warehouses with Ships and let it become a semi floating city. It would be like America’s Venice.
Venice isn't a floating city.
@@joelspaulding5964 well no but the idea is that we make it a floating city or a city where water transportation and walking are the only two ways of getting around.
@@hilljackzack7284So make it like the swamp?
@@iamjames8403 yeah kinda
Ironically venice is another sinking city
This deserves way more views! However, as a meteorology major, please brush up on your hurricane facts.
thank you. YEA, there was a LOT beyond hurricanes and flood control and local history that an hour fact checking on wikipedia could have helped with. the river is even animated as running backwards at least twice.
A proposal, dig out under the road ways to make water access ways during flood events. Basically keep a layer for cars to pass over but water to flow underneath. It would also eliminate weight put on the city
No. All the weight would remain on the city, just moved to different places🙄
That would require destroying and rebuilding roads. Not to mention digging channels in a city mostly at or below sea level will need pumps because if you dig you’ll hit water. It’s too expensive and the city isn’t going to take an option like this.
Time to bring in the dutch
we tried that twice. they thought they dutch were asking for more than necessary, paid them for consult, and sent them packing..... like locks and a sea wall along the lake and reflooding or greenspacing most of New Orleans East would even help..... it's not like they would know or anything. /sarcasm
@@deepbluesouth wow i cant believe they would blow them off like that, considering what the Dutch know. im sure they definitely ended up paying more to rebuild than it would have been to follow the dutch advice.
Dutch Never solved their own ocean problem. They just lied about it so the foreign investors won't get out too soon.
Their own NEED solution is not practical. Dutch are experienced with water management very good but there is no such thing as Ocean management.
Earth is fat shaming the city. 💀
😂😂
Why don't they plant mangrove trees to stop the sinking? It's warm enough for them in Louisiana.
To much Sediments.
It works on a beach, not in a City in a Delta.
New Orleans is on the ecotone for mangroves and salt marshes! It's actually really cool, it's warm enough on average to support a mangrove but it's too far north that the winter cold snaps stunt/kill off maturing mangroves, leaving marsh grass as the dominant plant!!! I agree tho definitely more plants and nature the better!!!!!
We have a corrupt inept government of fools in this state. They cause a lot of land loss by building canals which caused saltwater intrusion, which is a reason a lot of Louisiana has disappeared on the edges.
there is a plan underway, it involves some special root ball designed for mangrove sapling drops, but even if they are still doing the drops, they said it would take 5-10 years to understand if it can even work effectively.
i’m sure all those money wasted on ineffective projects dealing with the flooding problem could have already exceeded the total cost of relocating all the city residents.
correct. the big money wanted to do this after Katrina, gradually relocate everything and fix up Baton Rouge to combine the cities. it should have remained a long term plan. they could even have used the new flood map and said "grace period two or three years after Katrina; after which nobody is allowed to rebuild below this".
they have nothing but great ideas, but they just don't wanna. kept NOLA dry last two storms, but it flooded equally populated areas in poorer parishes [countes], like it has for 100 years now. I pity the fools moving there now. usually gentrification makes me say, they get what they get, but there is only one right way to move in NOLA metro: away
it was once a great city, but it's just future atlantis. go visit now.
2 inches a year? I mean, that’s a lot! 2 inches is like almost too much! Whewwww 😅😅😅
2in is almost bigger than most of Louisiana politicians 🍆
How’s 10 feet in 60 years hit ya’? 😒
It is 🤡
New Orleans is a lost cause
Better to spend the money on relocation of homes and businesses
Government collects taxes. They could help...
the money will go to proxy wars, sorry.
Michoud is pronounced Me-Shoo
It’s hard to feel sorry for bad engineering on this scale ? It was already well below sea level when building began.
top notch editing👏
Was hoping for the Tragically Hip!
We come as hosers
Why I'm not surprised the "french" had something to do with this 😂😂
To start, it's ALLLLLL American now
@@SoundsEpicMusic hahaha true
I’m only three minutes in but i love ur editing style and the vid is great so far
i know you cant just abandon a large city for several reasons. it would be total caos. but maybe they should think about slowly moving the city to higher land thru the next decades. progressively building infrastructure and stimulating construction in nearby safer land, slowly depopulating the more flood prone land... i'm sure "moving" an entire city is impossible, but maybe slowly making it "slide" towards higher ground upstream along the river could be possible as a state project for the next 75 years or whatever?
You must have never been or met a New Orleanian , there not moving, they have a mindset of flooding just a normal occurrence.
the Big Money wanted to slow roll a plan to relocate everything to Baton Rouge, focus most rebuilding money into expanding Baton Rouge dramatically. NOLA would drift to more tourism/hospitality and less business, which honestly it has been for over 40 years now already. Tom Benson even DESPERATELY tried to move the Saints to anyone who would take them, probably because they tried so hard to focus on gradually emptying NOLA. smart money is that's still happening, there are still likely hundreds of still untouched Katrina houses. everywhere else is gentrifying and mostly westerners and foreign nationals residents with enough money are coming in.
two years ago, the new post K systems were all tested. they passed. had they not been there, or say had Katrina never broken those levees in 2005, New Orleans would have flooded all over again, just about as bad. two years ago. next capital "S" Storm WILL be in our lifetimes, and it will likely be the last straw. I was born and raised in New Orleans, left nine months after The Storm to never return to live, my lifelong plan for such a storm growing up.
Katrina was not a worst case scenario, it was a wakeup call, shot across the bow. MAYBE 6.5 - 7 out of ten in scale. a 9/10 and worse will see a stronger storm than Katrina, something like Camille or Mitch or the infamous Labor Day hurricane hitting the delta directly thru to NOLA, carrying a 35-40 foot storm surge UP the mouth of the mississippi, much like MRGO [Mississippi River Gulf Outlet] did before we dammed that closed after Katrina. the ships float past the French Quarter ABOVE the second story windows. if the Mississippi floods from that bad of a hurricane, and it has not done so in known [modern] history, being anywhere on the southshore below five stories will be like being on the lower decks of the Titanic quick, fast, and in a hurry.
Which means the original family is back.❤
Great job on video
They been saying this for years and yet its still there its not going anywhere
I’d rather have rebuilt New Orleans than Ukraine how bout you?
Right! The math ain’t mathing! Make it make sense!
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New Orleans was named after Phillipe, Duc de Orleans, who served as regent for his nephew, Louis XV (1705-1774) for 8 years until he grew up.
Essentially, this city that's half below sea level was founded by a Duke who spent most of his life half seas over.
An added complication is that the Mississippi River keeps trying to flow down the Atchafalaya River to a new outlet on the coast. Historically, the Mississippi has changed course regularly, and only stays in its current bed due to the efforts of the Army Corp of Engineers. Eventually, the Corp is going to lose that battle. When that happens, no more sediment and no more fresh water will flow through New Orleans. The delta will melt away, and the Port of New Orleans will become a saltwater port instead of a freshwater port, which will require expensive adaptations.
A better use of money would be to relocate the city and port to a site on the Atchafalaya River with more favorable geology. Plan and dig a new port and channel for the Mississippi River, which will hopefully be easier to maintain. Then move everyone. The Mississippi River and a port near its mouth is vital for trade; since we can't prevent the loss without going bankrupt, it would be better to move those functions to align with where nature is intending to go.
The curse of gentrification is real 😉
The state literally looks like a toilet 😂
Of course it's a 💩 hole.
They left the food gates open a few years ago last and ended up with natural beaches. Made the news. It was the Bon Carre Spillway
New Orleans should team up with a city in a dry area somewhere, like say Amarillo, Texas, to build a pipeline to transport flood water to a reservoir in the desert. This way they could share the cost and both benefit.
Yeah, water just moves upwards...
Can you imagine how much it would cost to build such a Strukturen and how much more damage would be done to the ecosystem of the Delta?
Were you homeschooled?
Are you smoking Crack?
Because if the flood is from the Gulf, it's salt water. I'd it's from Lake Ponchatrain, it's brackish (salt & freshwater combined). Then you would have a body of water that, as time passed and evaporation occurred, would gain salinity, killing off local plant life.
@@BatteryH1862 oh ok, I thought it was fresh water from the Mississippi River.
At a certain point it will just be cheaper to reconstruct a new exact copy of New Orleans in a different location and move everyone there, instead of continually trying to save something that can’t be saved long term.
Vegas will build us a casino, I am quite sure. move over, Atlantis, there's a NEW lost city coming soon to the strip....
charge admission, add monorails.
You build on a swap& you get what you get!!
Why does everything go bad when them folks show up. Dang French
Without them you wouldn't even have North America.
Man it just gets worse and worse everytime the sediment is disturbed
Our aquifers are emptying quickly, leading to massive sink holes because the hole is still there.
Houston, New Orleans… I guess it’s not wise to build a city on the Gulf
Also, New Orleans needs a new drainage system. But the only place that can fix our pumps is making submarines for the US navy. So basically the US is prioritizing submarines for international war rather than save a city with millions of people (me being one of them). We care more about wars than civilians.
Im in Chalmette an my property is 3 feet above sea level an i still got 12feet during Katrina.. Thats 4 feet above the gutter.. insane
Very informative video. I hope the people in NOLA continue to fight for their city. But what can we do, corporations are killing the earth. What can we do...
Earthquakes to the west, hurricanes to the east, tornado Alley in the heart of the country and a volcano to the north and water to the south. fun fact, Miami run their pumps every day, regardless if it rains or not, because if they don’t, the streets will flood look it up. and New York isn’t safe either that was a category two hurricane! my question to you 🤡 who are saying just move why are people still living in Los Angeles and San Francisco The big one is coming right! why are people still living in Arkansas? Tornadoes are in tornado alley right! 😂 yall funny 😂😂 there’s no where to run
valid AF. survived Katrina (2005) - survived 2011 Tornado Superoutbreak (2011) - and now New Orleans is getting tornadoes as bad as we do HERE.
Subsidence is normal for sedimentary soils, especially when seasonal flooding that builds up the land is curtailed.
The Native Americans told the French not to build there because it floods and they were exactly right. Atlantis is real.
Laughed at the mispronouncing at first but quickly got old..
It all started because they harvested all cypress back in the day and sent it out by railroad.
correct. they were removing virgin bald cypress in canals dug to float the 20-30 story trees, then near the towns or along the river, they milled them for the railroads to send out. the last of these are said to have been removed over 100 years ago. [Wikipedia] the virgin cypress wood that survives in some homes and buildings is likely some of the most valuable repurposed wood on such markets in the US.
New Orleans, it’s suburbs and much of Louisiana is low laying and marshy. A large part of this swampy coastal region should have never been settled and built on in the first place.
You'd think they'd have built on stilts from the early days of floods making coffins pop out of the sodden ground like champagne corks 🍾
As a resident of the French Quarter of the city we don't see the flooding at all. The French were right that it was the highest ground and it still is. Most of the houses don't sit on the ground at all, they are built with from 6" in the oldest houses to 2 feet in the more "modern" ones (1850 on) of empty space under them to allow for drainage. This is common in many other areas as well. The Quarter is not the only high ground around and many places still never flood. Of course it doesn't alleviate major flooding, and it is true that some places flood regularly; however, this is not new By the way, one of the ideas that the whole city flooded during Katrina is not true. One of the problems is that as the city grew more low land was used to build housing and the poor people who settled there are now paying the price. You have one major error in your calculations however. The city is not sinking anywhere as fast as you imply and major areas will still be habitable for a long time to come.
flooding is not new. thats a good argument.
I had a roommate who taught geology at a local college and he said this area is a fantastic course study in itself and a terrible place to build. Period
They should’ve made Baton Rouge like New Orleans and make it a city area it’s the capital city like …
Florida is next to sink
NJ and VA- dang.
About time too if you ask anyone who vists that hell hole frequently
Is New Orleans sinking or is the ocean rising?
yes to both 😕
Also is the river at different times depending on rain upstream sinking and rising whilst the Gulf depending on accelerating GHG emissions rising and depending on hurricanes sinking?
@@rd264 What?
New Orleans gets it water directly from the Mississippi ,it does not use well water. Many of the areas below New Orleans have gotten their water from large wooden cisterns that collect the abundant rain water.
The 400 yrs r up
What was will be again. There’s no stopping nature. It’s best to move inland before roads out are destroyed.
I’m praying for more rain.
Sinking is a given in NOLA and outside (unincorporated) but close suburbs. We use pumped in "riversand" to fill our land. We top off occasionally and buy "a load of sand". I do NOT see it speeding up in my lifetime of 73 years. The only saving grace is our canals, levees, and pumping stations. When those are maintained properly they work VERY well. When crooked politicians get involved, those essentials can fail like during Katrina. FAILED POLITICS is the lion's share of the problem.
and their still building
It's a waste of money and effort. They should collectively agree they will all move the city inland taking as much stuff with them they can.
I LIVE IN New Orleans and I am scared :(
Good video, but as other commenters have stated, I dislike the way you pronounce the city’s name. New Ore-lens.
Well when you build a city in a bowl surrounded by water you get what you ask for.
If you're gonna talk about New Orleans, please don't use footage from the Mississippi Gulf Coast during Katrina bc alot of footage was from my hometown that got destroyed
😂😂😂😂 wow so bc your home town that was destroyed is in a video, the video shouldn't be used? Entitlement much loo ol
Never that just that during that time everyone was stuck on New Orleans when the Gulfcoast was destroyed. So that footage makes it look like it was N.O when it was the Ms Gulfcoast
1st + that's lilwayneland
This is so bogus the city is never gonna go anywhere
Watching this as I am visiting New Orleans RN
Most Americans won't care!
me who lives 10 mins away from new orleans:
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Versed, can you give us a list of software you use to make these videos? Thanks!
A swamp is a swamp always until a million years later
Ngl i was interested asf in this video
That background beat at the end is crazy
Boii y'all Be on these platforms Reaching 😂 Knowing Dam well This not go happen 😂 this been said for yrs by ppl who Don't live in New orleans or even close just visited 😂
Exactly , they just say this as an excuse to not pay us for all the oil they take
Why keep N O going? Let it go and leave. It was never meant to be and losing it will be no real loss
cant save something if wasn't made to be saved
Send for the Dutch
A great tragically hip song
The measures necessary to New Orleans seem too woke to be viable
whats a "woke"?
The work I do part of it is in New Orleans. It is to help the state and local government apply for federal funding for these drainage projects.
So is Florida.
I’m tired of bailing out cities like this because they refuse to give up and move. In 100 year this place will be completely gone and taxpayers will have nothing to show
One thing we currently have to show for it is a navigable Mississippi river, and if we let the delta just go to nature by not bailing them out, then it'll almost certainly become unnavigable and ruin the economy.
The city I grew up in, Norfolk, Virginia, is also famous for the sea wanting to take it back. In our case, the issue is more from ocean level rising. I hope we can learn from the situation New Orleans is in now and take action before it's too late.
Native Americans have lived in 'New Orleans' well before 1700 and were part of a wider civilization. I don't know why he doesn't consider Indigenous communities comparable to the European perspective of what classifies a city in the first place.
Need dredging...itambak sa kalupaan para tumaas ang lupa..
Why do people keep living in areas that obviously can not handle people living in them.. I just dont get it. It's the definition of insanity. Not to mention the waste of resources and money.
And yes Vegas, Phoenix, and cities like them are on are on that list of insanity cities
(Peggy Hill was right)
Because ppl are born and living there
Family and culture….its always easy for ppl to say stuff like this when you don’t live in a place that moving would require you to leave your entire family/ support system.
Enoring global warming has got you here!
Your vote has done this. Giving deniers power you have screwed your selfs.
LOL. You believe in the climate hoax...