To be completely honest I have no idea what the Kiriko change is supposed to be, I thought it was in invulnerability coming out of swift step, but the footage shows no real difference. I might be stupid, but if someone knows what the change is feel free to let me know!
While using swift step, Kiriko has i-frames which can be useful to avoid having to use her protection Suzu. This change makes it harder to i-frame abilities like Dva's nuke (im pretty sure). Hope this helps :)
@@SINotFound it is the i frames after she teleports, they even say in the patch notes its a thing in order to be able to react to stuff after u tp incase u tp to someone behind a wall where u cant see wats going on
@TechFrank Annoyance and it being good against low rank players shouldn't be an excuse to nerf something that has limited use at high ranks. Blizz dumb
@@sauceless6666 Are you actually complaining about it? 'Cause Junk combo is a million times better than Widow and Hanzo who always have one-shots, one of which is a hitscan that can be used at effectively any range. At least Junk's projectiles are slow projectiles, bright, and make noise so they're easily avoided outside of close range by anyone with at least average awareness. Oh and Sojo which everyone agrees should have been nerfed because she's good in every situation AND has a hitscan one-shot
Really appreciate the breakdown, especially doing the math for multiple changes (e.g. the overall DPS change for Genji, and the overall bubble duration change for Zarya). Missed these vids!
Trap is the only ability that relies on others to not pay attention in order to do its job. If people get hit by it, they should he punished. Same with the rest of Junk's kit, really. It's all loud and bright and easily avoided
Tbh they didn’t have to nerf genji, I get that he’s really strong if you know how to use him but that’s what every character is like and should be, I know it’s not that big a change but they should’ve focused on the other heroes, I thought he was in a pretty good spot, he has a huge skill curve
Hey sojourn is the most dominate hero in OW2 and has been played across every single of of its meta. Could you guys nerf her? Blizz: NO we must nerf junkrat's trap
I love playing Soujourn, she's a lot of fun to play but no nerfs to her primary fire damage, rail gun damage or even reduce the amount of time she can hold her railgun charge to encourage players to be more active with her and potentially reduce the amount of random one shots? No, let's just nerf Junkrat's trap instead.
Indeed. Reduce the bubble uptime and leave it at that imo. To be fair I'm not often in one on one's with her while I'm *not* Zarya, but I feel her kit would be balanced with just that one change
@TechFrank total mayhem is meant to be broken and chaotic. If you try to balance a character based on their performance in total mayhem, they will be unplayable in standard matches. Arcade is not taken seriously by the devs unless it's a bug/issue, so the player base should treat it the same. If you don't enjoy it, don't play it.
@@pr0gr4m she literally couldn't die in total mayham before. Have you never noticed that? I'm not the only one who had a problem with that. Thousands of players had a problem with that damn hero which blizzard understood the problem. No shit Sherlock of course it's meant to be chaotic but when it comes to something that can't be killed and therefore makes the game unfair for everyone, BECOMES A PROBLEM. Get that through your thick head.
@@livinglegendlanadelrey She needed them desperately. If you’ve spent any time playing Tank against an enemy Sombra then you’d know she was an absolute terror, so I think she absolutely needed the nerfs she had
She needs the nerfs If you're going for solo kills, you can absolutely destroy and squishies. As for tanks, one hack and focus fire is GG All these nerfs were needed
It's not even just a matter of balance, you have to consider how unfun to play against and badly designed sombra is. You can't have a hero that's very strong, easy to play, and annoying to play against. It's terrible game design and I think the only remedy for sombra (in her current state) is to remove some of her power, even if it makes her underpowered. For a decently designed example: Hanzo is annoying to play against when they're getting high value and just one shotting you, but at least I can say: "god damn! He's hitting shots!". With Sombra it's like "great, I'm hacked again. Now they're gonna spray me down in .5 seconds and teleport away at the press of a button, then emp the whole team and instantly win the team fight".
To be completely honest I have no idea what the Kiriko change is supposed to be, I thought it was in invulnerability coming out of swift step, but the footage shows no real difference. I might be stupid, but if someone knows what the change is feel free to let me know!
Could this is referring to the I frames Kiriko gets right before she teleports to her target? I know she gets invulnerability right before the tp
While using swift step, Kiriko has i-frames which can be useful to avoid having to use her protection Suzu. This change makes it harder to i-frame abilities like Dva's nuke (im pretty sure). Hope this helps :)
Oh ok, I was thinking it’s the I frames after she teleports
@@SINotFound it is the i frames after she teleports, they even say in the patch notes its a thing in order to be able to react to stuff after u tp incase u tp to someone behind a wall where u cant see wats going on
Yea but look at the video, they’re identical
Nothing can express how much I missed these.
I always loved seeing the direct comparison in game from these guys
The only way I want my patch notes
@@CakeIsOP truth
Junkrat nerf while sojurn exists
junkrat is broken rn, maybe not sojurn level but still needs more nerfs
@@hannesbaum9318 *lmao*
Yes, let's nerf trap, the only ability entirely reliant on enemies' lack of awareness. Coolio
Sarcasm by the way. It's not a good ability.
Yeah it's kinda annoying too
@TechFrank Annoyance and it being good against low rank players shouldn't be an excuse to nerf something that has limited use at high ranks. Blizz dumb
right, but leave the one tap combo in place. totally balacned
@@sauceless6666 Are you actually complaining about it? 'Cause Junk combo is a million times better than Widow and Hanzo who always have one-shots, one of which is a hitscan that can be used at effectively any range. At least Junk's projectiles are slow projectiles, bright, and make noise so they're easily avoided outside of close range by anyone with at least average awareness. Oh and Sojo which everyone agrees should have been nerfed because she's good in every situation AND has a hitscan one-shot
@@brightenblack207 Good idea, remove all 4
Really appreciate the breakdown, especially doing the math for multiple changes (e.g. the overall DPS change for Genji, and the overall bubble duration change for Zarya). Missed these vids!
the Junkrat nerfs seem a little unnecessary
He's a casual stomper just like doom
@@nin_kirsuji5284 bro doom bad in all ranks
Trap is the only ability that relies on others to not pay attention in order to do its job. If people get hit by it, they should he punished. Same with the rest of Junk's kit, really. It's all loud and bright and easily avoided
Idk I want his fire rate nerfed in junkenstien cause gawd he kills u in less a second even on normal
Can't have any strong "easy" CC in this game basically
Just got done playing a game and when I couldn't rehack the Rein i thought my controller was broken😂
Then i remember they were about to nerf sombra
Good
I MISSED THESE VIDEOS SO MUCH
bruh why nerf trap when sojourn exists
Why not?
@TechFrank because trap isn't a good ability so why nerf something that requires an enemy to run into it for it to be effective
@@SmokeyOwOs exactly
wait wheres Sojourn?
great question
with season 2 in a few weeks, nothing here
She had a mission to complete. But she'll be back. Oh look mei is back. Give her a welcome back😊👏
They nerfed Genji and not Soujorn
I'm so glad people that are above Silver are on the dev team
The Genji ammo change is making me question life
They shouldn't have nerf that. I think 30 was fine
@@techfrank2431 it used to be 24 before changing to 30 but people kept complaining about how it wasnt enough and i agree.
At this point I've lost count of how often it's changed back and forth.
Sombra can still spam hack you, she just can't hack you until it ends. You can still perma hack somebody if you want to
I think you missed the point here...
Yeah but you can't constantly lockout them, you have to wait extra time.
I haven’t played overwatch since like 2019 but I still watched this whole thing for some reason
" So we nerfed every meta characters (Except the new ones), so we can have a healthier meta and have more varied comps, fuck Junkrat's trap. "
30% less bubble uptime seems a bit harsh no?
No.
She was extremely oppressive in every rank, so a lower uptime means more strategic bubbles instead of "spam"
She was a problem in total mayham though
Wait genji still does damage? They really messed up here
Tbh they didn’t have to nerf genji, I get that he’s really strong if you know how to use him but that’s what every character is like and should be, I know it’s not that big a change but they should’ve focused on the other heroes, I thought he was in a pretty good spot, he has a huge skill curve
Thanks Cary
Poor Junkrat.. .remember the old days where the only one getting nerfed was Mercy ?
Glad those days are over. Lol
I MISSED THIS THANK YOU
Cary, hows your day going?
But sojourn and Winston are still good. Yup great patch 😃
Yup
Oh yes indeed
MAN is real is real!!!!! i missed
We all saw the original video.
What happened I was gonna watch it but they removed it😭
i think they forgot zarya but I was skipping around so im not certain
Hi cary :D hope your day is going great
Ppl are only mad about genji nerfs cuz hes popular hes not worse than many other characters post nerf but nonone cares about them
Sojourn: *Slowly walking out of here away from nerf*
Overwatch fans: Oi get back here!
Lol! That's something tracer would say🤣
@@techfrank2431 lol 😆
I came at the speed of speed
Hey sojourn is the most dominate hero in OW2 and has been played across every single of of its meta. Could you guys nerf her?
Blizz: NO we must nerf junkrat's trap
Why are we nerfing Junkrat? He's one of the worst DPS characters in the game right now. He needs a buff if anything
I thought he was alright. His damage attack is pretty well
Why nerf junk whyyyy
*shrugs*
MAN JUNKRAT REALLY NEEDED A NERF GUYS MAN ITS NOT LIKE KIRIKO OR SOJURN NEEDED A NERF NO SIR(IK Si not found is not responsible for patch)
Sojourn exists blizzard let's nerf genji
Good😊
why the nerf for junkrat
*shrugs*
I love playing Soujourn, she's a lot of fun to play but no nerfs to her primary fire damage, rail gun damage or even reduce the amount of time she can hold her railgun charge to encourage players to be more active with her and potentially reduce the amount of random one shots?
No, let's just nerf Junkrat's trap instead.
great balance patches that we definitely have not known about for 3 weeks
"great"
If sojurn doesn't get nerfed I'm quitting
Good😊
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Still no Sojourn nerfs
Nerfs? Nah
I am so sad, Zarya main moment
Indeed. Reduce the bubble uptime and leave it at that imo. To be fair I'm not often in one on one's with her while I'm *not* Zarya, but I feel her kit would be balanced with just that one change
Good. She was annoying in total mayham
@TechFrank total mayhem is meant to be broken and chaotic. If you try to balance a character based on their performance in total mayhem, they will be unplayable in standard matches. Arcade is not taken seriously by the devs unless it's a bug/issue, so the player base should treat it the same. If you don't enjoy it, don't play it.
@@pr0gr4m she literally couldn't die in total mayham before. Have you never noticed that? I'm not the only one who had a problem with that. Thousands of players had a problem with that damn hero which blizzard understood the problem. No shit Sherlock of course it's meant to be chaotic but when it comes to something that can't be killed and therefore makes the game unfair for everyone, BECOMES A PROBLEM. Get that through your thick head.
@@pr0gr4m if you don't believe me, look it up
Im so happy sombra and zarya got nerfs they really deserved those
So no one is gonna talk about mei's return? No? Ok then.
i love when they leave sojourns 1 tap in the game like honestly remove her ability to head shot with the tail gun and she’s fixed it’s so easy
Amazing too🤤
Makes no sense why kiriko can’t cleanse junk trap lol
*shrugs*
Wait until we get more CC abilities that she can't cleanse. More grounded abilities like trap would be amazing to counter Kiriko cleanse.
Sombra isn’t very good anymore😔 She’s not awful but it’s much harder to eliminate enemies now
They shouldn’t have nerfed her damage on top of all the nerfs on her hack
@@livinglegendlanadelrey She needed them desperately. If you’ve spent any time playing Tank against an enemy Sombra then you’d know she was an absolute terror, so I think she absolutely needed the nerfs she had
@@Allzoy
Nah the damage was perfectly fine now she’s trash. Rehack nerf should have been the only change
She needs the nerfs
If you're going for solo kills, you can absolutely destroy and squishies. As for tanks, one hack and focus fire is GG
All these nerfs were needed
It's not even just a matter of balance, you have to consider how unfun to play against and badly designed sombra is. You can't have a hero that's very strong, easy to play, and annoying to play against. It's terrible game design and I think the only remedy for sombra (in her current state) is to remove some of her power, even if it makes her underpowered.
For a decently designed example: Hanzo is annoying to play against when they're getting high value and just one shotting you, but at least I can say: "god damn! He's hitting shots!". With Sombra it's like "great, I'm hacked again. Now they're gonna spray me down in .5 seconds and teleport away at the press of a button, then emp the whole team and instantly win the team fight".
I am speed
Sojourn is someone who exist but nothing
Who?
@@techfrank2431 what you mean
@@gokuwitthesnapbackandtimbs who's sojourn? Never seen her in the game🤔
Why r they nerfing junk????????????? Bro that character is awful already
Not really. One shot combo is powerful, plus less damage mitigation due to -1 tank.
He's alright
No not zarya :(
Dva nerf seemed needless, and zarya cooldown should be 10 sec still. Bubble duration at 2 is good tho
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