Billie Jean: Surprisingly Difficult on Drums?

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  • Опубліковано 11 січ 2025

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  • @gmkbass
    @gmkbass Рік тому +62

    I've played the drums for almost 20 years by now, and I still get so immersed in these "Drumming 101" lessons, especially when the lesson is so cleanly explained like this video. You always have to remember the basics.
    I know the early teen me would have loved this video too.

    • @TheStrugglesReel
      @TheStrugglesReel Рік тому +8

      Agreed!! Remaining teachable is how you become an amazing musician. You're never done learning!! 🤘😝

  • @gfuterfas
    @gfuterfas Рік тому +135

    Great breakdown. I like this style of presentation from you! It's less Tik-Tok-y, less sass, but very accessible. Thanks!

  • @philatkinson3955
    @philatkinson3955 Рік тому +24

    She is a great teacher...I enjoy her short video clips...I have learned a ton ! Thank you.😎🥁🤘

  • @ClarenceHW
    @ClarenceHW Рік тому +15

    One thing to note: Your drums sound fantastic! Love the tuning, the musical sound and the grooves.

  • @b3s13g3d
    @b3s13g3d Рік тому +10

    PLEASE keep this up. I've learned SO much since I started following this channel!

  • @chrislenahan4477
    @chrislenahan4477 Рік тому +6

    The key is to slowly but clearly speed up and slow down your tempo at random times throughout the song. This is why the song is such a hit.

  • @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568

    may i suggest that in the lesson at around 4:50 - 4:59 you recommend to the student that the 'e' also be said/thought out (despite that no note is played on it) -for the sake of maintaining tempo.

  • @krg1965
    @krg1965 Рік тому +5

    Tres bon, love the content and presentation of this video. Sitting in the pocket and resisting the temptation to hurtle round the toms every 4 bars is a really importatn lesson and you've done it brilliantly. Great choice of song to demonstrate. I've always heard it (and played it) as pushing the kick ahead ever so slightly, while staying in tempo. Oh, and your advice on how to stick the fills - excellent. (As a lefty playing right-hand kit open, I have it easy, just moving across to play floor with right and snare with left :-) Great videos - you got a new subscriber.

  • @bigl6322
    @bigl6322 Рік тому +6

    Nice teaching style. I’m a guitar player who started playing drums by myself like 8 years ago, so the basic groove is a basic groove, but you definitely make it all relatable. Mostly I like your 5 minute timer tho…. I got a lotta grooves I can do for about a minute and a half…lol
    You’ve got some other stuff that looks interesting, I subbed.
    Thanks

  • @STEPHENRWILLIAMSMUSIC
    @STEPHENRWILLIAMSMUSIC Рік тому +4

    New follower here! finally someone who coaches brilliantly and doesn't annoy me.

  • @robertfeggans9459
    @robertfeggans9459 Рік тому +3

    It wasn't Sugarfoot on 1:45 drums...it was Ndugu.

  • @PeterWilliams-kb1yn
    @PeterWilliams-kb1yn Рік тому +8

    Would love to see you play “ Rubber Band Man” - A Mowtown classic by the Spinners

  • @nikitacalvus
    @nikitacalvus Рік тому +2

    Larry Mullen Jr is a drummer who always uses a floor tom on his left side, using a similar "ka-boom" fill on "Pride" for instance, or another one on the live version of "With or Without You" (Rattle and Hum era) which would be more difficult with the floor tom on the right, especially as regards snare hits consistency I suppose.

  • @stuartjameswright
    @stuartjameswright Рік тому +3

    I'm loving these videos. I've been a crap drummer for 50 years. I'm about to have an operation on both my shoulders. Once I'm over that I'll be signing up for your courses.

    • @love_to_learn_drums
      @love_to_learn_drums  Рік тому +1

      Good luck with your operation! I look forward to working with you 😊

  • @politubeyou
    @politubeyou 10 місяців тому

    I don't play drums, but I enjoy watching your lessons. I love your accent, and when you sing I melt like butter in the sun. thank you!

  • @mauricefrost8900
    @mauricefrost8900 7 місяців тому +1

    I had an instructor who said that the art of good drumming is to do simple things exceptionally well every time
    This seems to be a good example of that

  • @gcorriveau6864
    @gcorriveau6864 11 місяців тому +1

    For someone who gets 'easily bored' with repetition and 'sitting in the groove' - merely playing the identical and simple (but precise) pattern for 5! minutes will be a huge challenge. d'oh .. .Love your instructional style! thanks again.

  • @milkman100001
    @milkman100001 Рік тому +2

    hi hun. thanks for all these vids. the way you show hot to do things ,especially with the letters above ,make it more easy to learn.

  • @scottmcdonald2046
    @scottmcdonald2046 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @Tyner69
    @Tyner69 Рік тому +16

    I love how you are able to provide coaching and instruction for the early learner without indulging a "show-off" session of your own advanced skills. The latter has always been (and is still) my least favorite thing about UA-cam "tutorial" videos.

  • @bobcole612
    @bobcole612 Рік тому +2

    Kind of like Thunderstruck on bass. Just play B in 8th notes, for 83 bars. Or U2 With or Without You, mostly a nice little 4 bar phrasing, that repeats 23 times. Real easy to get sloppy, and very lost if you’re not paying attention.

  • @cutitshaveit
    @cutitshaveit Рік тому +4

    Love your teachings thank you

  • @bacbladerunner
    @bacbladerunner Рік тому +5

    If you watch Jonathan Moffett play this, they're pretty much all hard rim shots. I just cannot play solid clean rim shots consistantly.

    • @MS-dz1di
      @MS-dz1di Рік тому

      I think this ist very complicated and needs a lot practice. Keep in mind that nobody could play anything from the first moment. I'm sure Jonathan Moffett also needed a lot of practice for this.

    • @paulbfields8284
      @paulbfields8284 Рік тому

      Rim shots to me are the life blood of a good groove to get into and only change the texture of the beat without changing the beat. Learn them till they become second nature and soon you’ll be able to pull them out only as a great accent. Then you can learn to play them w both hands for a real nicely mixed up groove Buddy rich style

    • @michaelbinbc
      @michaelbinbc Рік тому

      This is not Jonathan Moffett. He wasn't on Thriller. It was Leon "Ndugu" Chancler for Billie Jean.

    • @michaelbinbc
      @michaelbinbc Рік тому

      @@TheHominidShow Fair enough, I guess I read it as all the other comments on this video saying it was Sugarfoot who played on the actual recording.

    • @bacbladerunner
      @bacbladerunner Рік тому +2

      @@michaelbinbc That could be. I watched Moffett play it on Drumeo.

  • @selcuksamicingi7633
    @selcuksamicingi7633 Рік тому +1

    Please please please mention the genius of the drummer himself who is Ndugu Chancler. Respect and regards...

  • @jonthecomposer
    @jonthecomposer Рік тому

    This is such good stuff! I give lessons in a few instruments as well as play. And one of my main points is to LISTEN FIRST no matter what you're on. And I find the sparser parts seem to be much harder for people to get tight. As mainly a bassist, my main goal along with being a support player, is to LISTEN to how the drummer interprets the beat so I can match my notes as closely to theirs as possible. The more musicians in a group who listen first and try to match each other, usually the tighter the sound. That's why some great musicians aren't necessarily virtuosos. But they can interpret what they need out of the music and use what they are capable of to present it in a moving way.

  • @nithyarajendrababu4020
    @nithyarajendrababu4020 Місяць тому

    Do you have a course for beginner's Emma ?
    Its impressive how easily you convey to your audience.

  • @manningbartlett522
    @manningbartlett522 Рік тому +2

    Billie Jean is like most AC/DC tunes, the groove seems simple, but finding the pocket is deceptive and challenging.

  • @DJWezzyK
    @DJWezzyK 11 місяців тому

    You should watch how Sugarfoot does it on Drumeo. That was a very great lecture on how to make a drum machine loop into a drumset partiture.

  • @w5i55601
    @w5i55601 Рік тому

    She is just so down to earth and lovely to hear! Listen to her and you'll learn to play the skins! Love her so much!

  • @s4lroachclip
    @s4lroachclip 4 місяці тому

    I think it is these simple songs that inspire new drummers to stay at it. What I forget, is that each time I learn a full song, I should totally write it down, no matter how simple that I think it is. This way I will see that I know a lot more songs than I think I do. Whether it is something I would ever be asked to play or not. Whether or not it is a genre I would ever play. Because I admit I have played genres for the money, and/or exposure that I never thought I would do. I enjoyed how this lesson was explained and I watched the whole thing even though I was hoping there was something actually surprisingly difficult. The teacher held my attention all the way through and gave players no bad information at all. Not too much or too little, shows the whole song, not over explaining, also a great vibe, not so overly enthusiastic or loud like other people I have seen. We all should be proud of the drummers on youtube, because the guitar lessons are so bad.

  • @TheSundayGamer
    @TheSundayGamer Рік тому +5

    I love the long form, quirky-English-lady-teaches-drums nature of this video. You are a ledge. Love you. Love your videos.

  • @spikey556
    @spikey556 11 місяців тому

    I just saw a video of mr Moffet himself playing it and he also does the passing of the left hand underneath.

  • @y2ksw1
    @y2ksw1 Рік тому

    I'm not having a kit for quite a while now and look into what other people do. I find it enjoyable to see problems I never had. My skills are top notch also at my failures 😅

  • @ZoeSummers1701A
    @ZoeSummers1701A Рік тому +1

    What did you mean by “a whip”?

  • @dopeydad1221
    @dopeydad1221 Рік тому +1

    Love your videos! But I thought Billie Jean was renowned as the first song to feature the Linn Drum drum machine providing the main groove. Is this not the case?

  • @maddrummer691
    @maddrummer691 Рік тому +1

    Great tips for this groove🥁

  • @HattenandOrliss
    @HattenandOrliss Рік тому

    I really like how your kit sounds. Are those acoustic tiles behind you?

  • @swampthing20
    @swampthing20 5 місяців тому

    Great lesson Emma 😃

  • @CheshireCatFun
    @CheshireCatFun Рік тому

    2:19 A "doddle"? Just learned a new word today! 😊

  • @Meteotrance
    @Meteotrance Рік тому

    What people call ( the pocket) or ( the groove) is how you able to manage the dynamic of your playing thats why Billy jean or even some most famous AC/DC song from Phil Rudd on drums are so hard to nailed it, it's not even a matter ot speed but how hard and light you hit your drums with accuracy , it's one of the most important thing to master and listen to your bass player and being in phase with it is important too...

  • @FreshAnton
    @FreshAnton 6 днів тому

    holy shit. I watch her Videos for DAYS now and just realized she looks loke Severus Snape :D
    please keep up your Videos! I love em and the help me as a bloody Newbie a lot!

  • @coltonsimmonds6991
    @coltonsimmonds6991 11 місяців тому

    ' I Like You; Your A Fantastic Teacher; Please Keep Up The Great Work That Your Doing'. X.

  • @VincentKeough-td1bo
    @VincentKeough-td1bo Рік тому +2

    New to your content.
    Love it 👍🏽

  • @brettallard9655
    @brettallard9655 Рік тому

    Check out Jonathan " Sugar Foot" Moffett play it on DRUMEO. It's simpler than you think. It's more of a feel than a constant thought.

  • @ixamedia6572
    @ixamedia6572 Рік тому

    Excellent breakdown! Thank you ❤

  • @markspaniola8596
    @markspaniola8596 Рік тому

    Could you teach me how to play Hot Rod Lincoln (commander Cody version ?

  • @arnfinnrong6233
    @arnfinnrong6233 6 місяців тому

    Love the channel and I am not even a drummer! It was that magic name Phil Collins which steered my unto you supercool channel, thanks from Norway

  • @karlsloman5320
    @karlsloman5320 Рік тому +4

    Ndugu Chanceller, the drummer on this track was proof that you can take a basic goove and make it sound wonderful. I spoke many times to Ndugu about this song, and he told me that you have to serve the song. I love this groove, and I am a progressive metal drummer! Cheers

    • @fraaggl
      @fraaggl Рік тому

      oh I thought it was Sugarfoot Moffet who played it.

    • @francoissaintpierre4506
      @francoissaintpierre4506 Рік тому

      He also told me that he did it alone and after everybody. I found that very sad. Actually I find Sugarfoot playing in the movie This Is It much more enjoyable and organic.

  • @pkj77
    @pkj77 11 місяців тому

    that beat was actually the first i was tough to play by my teacher back when i played the drums with a simple fill 1 snare 1 rag tom 1 rag tom 1 floor tom

  • @manassehjaphethhouston7738
    @manassehjaphethhouston7738 11 місяців тому

    Nice Crisp Hats. What are they?

  • @TechGuyBloke
    @TechGuyBloke Рік тому

    Similarly for the bass part, i.e. it's a simple riff with easy fretting but tremendously difficult to get the right groove and keep it going.

  • @mattiebigtime
    @mattiebigtime 11 місяців тому

    Excellent song to explain "in the pocket" to new drummers. Sharp, clean, accurate, tight, and perfectly in-time.

  • @overloadsound6661
    @overloadsound6661 8 місяців тому

    I'm impressed how you manage to be logical when you're counting, it's natural. Like when you play and you show it, it's a real game-changer compared to other more painful and indigestible videos. Have you ever thought about going back to ragae for Chanlenge?

  • @mr.rainbowlovescoffee
    @mr.rainbowlovescoffee Рік тому

    Another hi-hat drumming practice, the song Fame from David Bowie. That's a fun hi-hat drumming sound

  • @dennisrsvdennisrsv1679
    @dennisrsvdennisrsv1679 5 місяців тому

    do you have lessons to play along with the music on different levels? that make you feel and hear the music? I think you can teach that on a great way
    like all of your videos

  • @holton345
    @holton345 11 місяців тому

    I have played professionally (tuba) since 1985. I have been with my symphony orchestra for thirty years now. I have sat on many audition committees. The one piece that gets used to weed out poseurs in the first round of tuba auditions ALWAYS is the Overture from "Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg" (Wagner). It is all quarter notes and eighth notes. Only players with their shit together will realize that this seemingly simple line will sound like garbage unless the players subdivides like mad in their head as they play, or the time will wander all over the place. People advance at auditions because they have impeccable fundamentals. For a set drummer, simple grooves like "Billie Jean" are what will embarrass you on stage if you do not take them super seriously. Unless you are a bad musician.

  • @vpbranduk
    @vpbranduk Рік тому

    Love it. I am almost 60 and so wish I’d had you to teach me when I learned drums as a teenager. B

    • @ericl2969
      @ericl2969 11 місяців тому

      I'm 65 and just got back into playing drums (and also mallet keyboard) after not playing for 45 years while being too busy with "real life". Now retired, I'm amazed at how some hard work has quickly brought me beyond my formerly-decent skills, but I was never great then and am not great now. Like you, I'm envious of the online resources available to today's new drummers, and she explains many things really well. Regarding new drummers that are learning nowadays, I see lots and lots of kids who are far better than what the "really good" drummers were back in my day, and I'm sure that a big part of that is the better learning environment of today.

  • @safety_doge
    @safety_doge Рік тому

    I always wanted to learn to play drums properly. But watching a couple videos on that subject, I must say, I don't think I ever gonna get around to that.

  • @TikiDrinksatHome
    @TikiDrinksatHome 11 місяців тому

    What kit is that?

  • @hkgurry6299
    @hkgurry6299 9 місяців тому +1

    This channel is extremely beginner friendly there is nothing wrong with that

  • @CharlesIanChun
    @CharlesIanChun 11 місяців тому

    Love the video! You have a new subscriber!

  • @extremecanine
    @extremecanine 11 місяців тому

    Once again, beautiful video.

  • @joinushugabear5847
    @joinushugabear5847 Рік тому

    you’re a good teacher!

  • @yoro.jojjowi
    @yoro.jojjowi 4 місяці тому

    hey, as a girl myself, u inspired me to do drumming and made me believe that its not weird for girls to like drumming, keep up the good work :)

  • @michipichi0
    @michipichi0 9 місяців тому

    I just watched the original drummer do this song on Drumeo and it looks like he's hitting the floor tom underhand with the left hand as well

    • @discovolante13
      @discovolante13 8 місяців тому

      Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffet is NOT the original drummer

  • @TheCollectorCave
    @TheCollectorCave 5 місяців тому

    Gosh darn. For the first three minutes of this video I was thinking this was Smooth Criminal. Needless to say I was THOROUGHLY confused 😂. Great teaching though, love it!

  • @teachingbeats
    @teachingbeats Рік тому +4

    ANY thing by Jonathon Moffet is hard to nail.

    • @inkblotphd
      @inkblotphd Рік тому +1

      Drummer on the album track was Ndugu Chancler.

  • @rmatson
    @rmatson Рік тому +1

    Med-I-tat-ive. 8th notes. :-) Another excellent lesson, in my case, for a non-drummer who is all about groove. And MJ is The King.

  • @brianmaxwell3456
    @brianmaxwell3456 Рік тому

    Great breakdown, really not a simple as it seems. Thanks for this, Jeff Pocaro is my all-time fave drummer.

    • @andrewfrechtman6536
      @andrewfrechtman6536 Рік тому +6

      Jeff Porcaro didn't play this. It was Leon "Ndugu" Chancler, overdubbing a drum machine...

    • @brianmaxwell3456
      @brianmaxwell3456 Рік тому

      @@andrewfrechtman6536 that’s what I was told, if my information is wrong apologies

    • @elsongs
      @elsongs Рік тому +1

      @@andrewfrechtman6536 I got to play jazz with Ndugu once. Around 2014 I think. Good times. R.I.P.

  • @DrumSticking
    @DrumSticking 2 місяці тому

    This is one of those beats that is simple, yet we never feel like we play it perfectly...

  • @josiemarquez2160
    @josiemarquez2160 Рік тому

    Love your teaching ❤

  • @What-is-Faith
    @What-is-Faith Рік тому

    At last an excellent woman drum teacher excellent technique and her teaching style is excellent.

  • @nexdrums
    @nexdrums Рік тому

    Great Emma 🤟🏻🥁

  • @V4zz33
    @V4zz33 Рік тому

    Haha, I find it funny, that El Estepario makes things look easy, /I know it's something else entirely/, but with you breaking things down masterfully makes things look incredibly hard.;))
    I'm not a musician just an enjoyer of music related things.
    Happy 2024!

  • @TerryClarkAccordioncrazy
    @TerryClarkAccordioncrazy Рік тому +1

    Billy Jean was taught to me as a beginner in my first ever drum lesson. However, playing it to perfection is not at all simple.

  • @Warpedsmac
    @Warpedsmac Рік тому

    Billy Jean has a unique tempo. I have played this song many times live...it MUST be played at original tempo; anything other than original destroys the feel. Hi-hat ostinato must be clean and each note the same dynamic...cheers from Sunny Australia.

  • @WhisperingPeace
    @WhisperingPeace Рік тому

    I absolutely love your voice ❤️

  • @pedrovillegas5499
    @pedrovillegas5499 Рік тому

    I like your charisma haha, very nice video!

  • @WildMonkDrumcovers
    @WildMonkDrumcovers 3 місяці тому

    A great explanation 👌

  • @alanpassmore2574
    @alanpassmore2574 Рік тому

    Good for you girl. This is real world stuff that will help beginner players. Too much show playing on the internet that will never work in the real world.

  • @NS-dd9ou
    @NS-dd9ou Рік тому

    I'm far from being a brilliant drummer but from the title i was hoping something tricky to be played. Is the title intention to reveal it is actually difficult or just irony? ...couldn´t determine the real intention

    • @ILikeWafflz
      @ILikeWafflz 4 місяці тому

      It's bringing attention to how the simple things take a lot of attention to get right

  • @markielinhart
    @markielinhart Рік тому

    Brilliant Emma‼️

  • @bosejefferson237
    @bosejefferson237 Рік тому

    hi! make record of your drum line according to your explaination with only original bass line and we will see will you explanation be workable or there is something else!

  • @tdpunduerat
    @tdpunduerat Рік тому

    love ur humor and sass i hope u have a job teaching kids and beginners, cuz ur a natural girl cheers to u

  • @jlucasound
    @jlucasound Рік тому

    Using a Metronome is a MUST!

  • @Taikwendodo
    @Taikwendodo Рік тому

    How hard IS sound exactly ? 😊 (c.f. Thumbnail)

    • @sionsollis
      @sionsollis Рік тому +1

      Should be fixed now. Thank you for pointing that out. 😂

  • @markrobinson8254
    @markrobinson8254 Рік тому +1

    John Robinson

  • @MS-gj7ni
    @MS-gj7ni Рік тому

    This is great thanks

  • @attiliosylvio2799
    @attiliosylvio2799 Рік тому +1

    Please! Play the groove at the beginning…to get us inspired and know what we’re going for.

    • @sionsollis
      @sionsollis Рік тому

      She did. There is just talking over it as well. 😅

  • @KevinCasey-r4t
    @KevinCasey-r4t 9 місяців тому

    I love u man....... ( Girl ) U rock... I have learned so much from u. Keep up thew rock and Ill keep the views

  • @felipepestana
    @felipepestana Рік тому +2

    Sugarfoot is a man-metronome hybrid with dynamics, groove and showmanship all at once. Straight up genious

  • @DJMaul1031
    @DJMaul1031 10 місяців тому

    Not correcting you, God knows I'm no expert. But I always thought the kick was four on the floor for this?

  • @MrTommyemmanuel
    @MrTommyemmanuel Рік тому

    Funny enough, its the same concept groove as when approaching the song Vultures by John Mayer.

  • @lior5059
    @lior5059 5 місяців тому

    Thank a lot !

  • @belljo
    @belljo Рік тому

    I found this so meditative...

  • @Haitislays
    @Haitislays 11 місяців тому

    Thank you Emma

  • @ddeboy002
    @ddeboy002 11 місяців тому

    The kick can happen with the snare! Watch Sugarfoot!

  • @richardmurphy8744
    @richardmurphy8744 Рік тому +1

    Hi there, if you get time, check out "MJ'S" Drummer, "Sugarfoot" he will show you how it's played! But you're doing good! 🥁🎵🎶🖤👊

  • @Prell88
    @Prell88 Рік тому +2

    Do you teach in the real world too? I’d love to have a few lessons from you!

  • @jlucasound
    @jlucasound Рік тому

    Jonathan Moffett. SO Good. (And I am from the Rock Era.)

    • @discovolante13
      @discovolante13 8 місяців тому

      He did not play drums on Thriller!!!