The wacky world of twin-engine race cars

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  • @shoobfloof22
    @shoobfloof22 Рік тому +161

    There's a unique rally car that was raced in New Zealand in the 90s. As far as I can tell, it was only ever raced once or twice, and there's not very much information on it. But what I do recall was probably the most unusual thing I've ever heard of. It was based on a Mazda 323, though I don't know if Mazda themselves were involved. However, the driver sat where the backseats would normally be, because in front was two turbocharged rotary engines. Not just that, but the car was also SIX WHEEL DRIVE. It had a second front axle behind the first that could also steer. So therefore it was a "turbocharged twin-steer twin engine six wheel drive back-seat-driven Mazda 323 rally car", technically. Very interesting and unique car, kind of sad that there isn't much information on it.

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +46

      Yeah there's like 4 or 5 pics of it and literally only 2 seconds of video footage. A shame cause its veeeery interesting

    • @shoobfloof22
      @shoobfloof22 Рік тому +9

      @stijnpaspont Agreed, wish there was more info on it, it's so unique

    • @amtic9696
      @amtic9696 Рік тому +11

      this is insane, what the fuck

    • @redhoodie5084
      @redhoodie5084 Рік тому +5

      I thought this was a Joke but it's actually real

    • @ShibaInYourWalls
      @ShibaInYourWalls Рік тому

      hello there

  • @MilesLexicon
    @MilesLexicon Рік тому +127

    My favorite twin engined race car would be the Fittipaldi 3200, ridiculously fast little VW Beetle with two Beetle engines in it, made lap times comparable to GT40's of the time. Wasn't reliable as was to be expected.

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +24

      oh yeah the little fittipaldi beetle. also has one of the best unusual air intakes. really adds to the sleeper look of it

    • @prosto_potomuwto
      @prosto_potomuwto Рік тому +1

      would be if what?

  • @snoolbrunch
    @snoolbrunch Рік тому +66

    You know its a good day when theres a Stijn Paspont upload 😄

  • @zab5980
    @zab5980 Рік тому +41

    My favourite obscure twin engined car is the Citroen 2CV Safari. How did Citroen make a 4WD 2CV with it remaining cheap and reliable ? Simple, put another engine in the back and sell it to the public like that. They're less rare than you'd think, with some popping up in the classic car market from time to time.

  • @Turnip199
    @Turnip199 Рік тому +28

    What a really cool video! You know you're in for a good time when CANAM gets mentioned

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +7

      ikr. the wacky 2J overshadows soooo many other cars that sometimes are even more interesting.

  • @martron7
    @martron7 Рік тому +43

    Putting a second engine in your race_car is so dumb, so crazy, that's its simply amazing. There's a weird kind of fascination when something is super over-engineered and still not enough.

  • @Westfalon
    @Westfalon Рік тому +4

    I hear that cheeky AC5 briefing theme ;) It goes really nicely with historical cars

  • @gabrielechimento8719
    @gabrielechimento8719 Рік тому +2

    I subbed just because of the ace combat menu music at 1:10, then stayed till the end of the vid. Great channel, recommend.

  • @SpikerDragon95
    @SpikerDragon95 Рік тому +3

    Man the Cultus and the first Escudo was a trully monster! Also huge respect for using Ace Combat Zero OST love that game

  • @MaveRick01
    @MaveRick01 Рік тому +8

    This guy went 365 kph in a machine that offered zero protection even at low speeds. I'm wondering how his balls maanged to fit into that car

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +1

      Just another day in the life of Tazio Nuvolari

  • @NikoKyunKyun
    @NikoKyunKyun Рік тому +12

    there's also a twin engine cosmo used to race in australia, it's 2 13b, not 26b. Porsche also made a 917 PA powered by flat 24

    • @Nielsblog
      @Nielsblog Рік тому

      A flat 24… how does that even fit?

    • @NikoKyunKyun
      @NikoKyunKyun Рік тому

      @@Nielsblog i did a google, and it's not actually flat 24, it was flat 16, sorry

  • @tomanderson6335
    @tomanderson6335 Рік тому +6

    No multi-engine racecar list is complete without the 1966 Stein Twin-Porsche Indy car, an ambitious creation constructed by famed builder Joe Huffaker and powered by a 2.0L 911 flat-six at each end. The car DNQ'd for that year's Indianapolis 500 and never ran again.
    And there was also the Seat Ibiza Bimotor, which likely had a future in the WRC's Group S ranks had that ruleset not been thrown out together with Group B.

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +2

      Not kidding, both of these cars were on the shortlist for this video. Together with a bunch more.

  • @PUDRETE919
    @PUDRETE919 Рік тому +41

    I always wonder how those 5 engined tractors work

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +14

      Witchcraft

    • @HATECELL
      @HATECELL Рік тому +16

      Typically they use a "collector gearbox" that puts the power onto a single shaft, which then goes to the gearbox. Mechanisms to disconnect individual engines aren't common, they would just add weight and complexity, and if one of the engines isn't running the tractor isn't competitive anyway

    • @ngauruhoezodiac3143
      @ngauruhoezodiac3143 Рік тому +2

      Take a look at the Sherman tank that had 5 Chrysler 6 cylinder engines .

    • @chessie4
      @chessie4 Рік тому

      They just do

  • @MartlRS
    @MartlRS Рік тому +8

    Austrian HillClimb racedriver Erich Edlinger is actually building a BMW i8 with 4 HP4 superbike engines! 14800rpm, 1000kg, 880hp! Do yourself a favor and Google that thing.
    I truly believe this 880hp awd beast with a ton of downforce will be extremely fast. Think it’s planned to do rollout next year (maybe this year already).

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +1

      Christ in heaven i want to hear that thing so bad

    • @MartlRS
      @MartlRS Рік тому +1

      @@stijnpaspont we will soon ;) His former car was an BMW E30 with a Indycar engine. Also quite interesting :D

  • @lanternsown3525
    @lanternsown3525 Рік тому +4

    Monster Tajima's Suzuki Swift! You could make whole video about this Guy's Awesome Career.

  • @beunhaas102
    @beunhaas102 Рік тому +4

    Love that you included the legendary DAF Twin Turbo rally truck even though it isn't a race car ;)

  • @kiplibinkecle
    @kiplibinkecle Рік тому +9

    going by the "joining 2 engines into 1" logic, honorable mentions would be the hayabusa v8, which combines 2 inline 4 motorcycle engine and is used in cars like the ariel atom v8 and basically all rotary engines cos you can just stack them and make a longer shaft. great video anyways, love it!

    • @n_tas
      @n_tas Рік тому

      Rob Dahm's got some videos of a 12-rotor engine, it was built (not by him) for marine use but it's just three quad-rotor engines somehow stuck together. I don't even think they use a Mazda rotor housing as a module, pretty sure it's all custom made.

  • @McLeod917
    @McLeod917 Рік тому +2

    Great video. Finally got around to watching it. Indycar had some very competitive twin engined cars like the 1946 Fageol Twin Coach Special that qualified middle of the front row using twin Offenhauser engines. And the Sampson V16 that put two miller 122 ci straight 8s together. There are other less successful U16 engine designs as well, combining two I8s in a new form. They are all a bit hard to look up but they are worth it.
    Thanks again for all your videos. always looking forward to more.

  • @HATECELL
    @HATECELL Рік тому +6

    Some other cool multi-engined vehicles: the red porsche killer (drag bike with 4 1cyl engines), the Dolmette (drag bike with 24 engines from Dolmar chainsaws), various land speed record vehicles from the "Campbell/Segrave era", Zil 135 (military 8x8 truck), some Mini Mokes (light 4x4 using two Mini-drivetrains), Citroën 2CV 4x4 Sahara (a 2CV with two drivetrains to achieve 4x4)

  • @HATECELL
    @HATECELL Рік тому +4

    There are even some roadcars with multiple engines. The 2CV and the Mini both had offroad versions with a second drivetrain in the rear. The Cizeta Moroder V16T technically used two V8s with a power take off in the middle. Then there are several engines that are derived from adding or removing cylinders to existing engines. A few famous examples. The E30 BMW M3 used the engine from the M1 with two cylinders removed, the Peugeot 907 concept had a V12 made from two Peugeot V6s, the Volvo Penta B40 (marine V8 engine) was basically two B20s (2 liter inline 4 car engines) and the Radical SR8 uses a V8 derived from 2 Hayabusa engines. And even Cosworth's DFV has an inline-4 spinoff

  • @ClaytonBrownMusicOfficial
    @ClaytonBrownMusicOfficial Рік тому +1

    “Not to end the video on a sour note…”
    _the man said before ending the video on a very sour note_

  • @TokyoDrift456
    @TokyoDrift456 Рік тому +3

    not sure if this counts given its not a race car, just a show car, but a twin engined car that stands out in my mind is the Hot Wheels Twin Mill, they made a full sized build of it for one of their anniversaries, and despite it being just a showcar, it does run on both of its engines, it runs on twin supercharged v8s that (supposedly) make a combined output of 1400 horsepower

  • @toguapotobo
    @toguapotobo 6 місяців тому +1

    Seat built a twin engine Ibiza rally car called the Ibiza Bimotor. It raced in the Spanish championship. No idea how it went, though...

  • @MachineintheMonkey
    @MachineintheMonkey Рік тому +1

    Great video mate👍 I’m happy to say that I am a subscriber now 🇦🇺

  • @Rafagafanhotobra
    @Rafagafanhotobra Рік тому +5

    0:40 My spiritual animal

  • @bobmcl2406
    @bobmcl2406 Рік тому +2

    Citroën produced twin-engined road/off-road 2CVs, and Club Cassis built a twin-engined the 2CV to race in the Dakar Classic. I think it was called "Bipbip".

  • @ThaDutchDK1989
    @ThaDutchDK1989 Рік тому +2

    Good you’re back

  • @SZCH-World
    @SZCH-World Рік тому +7

    the ace combat ost fits in real nice with the videos :)) great topic and vid as well!

  • @milfordh.mercado2787
    @milfordh.mercado2787 Рік тому +2

    Just when i thought you were gone forever my friend you have returned unexpected today with deep dive on multi engines racers and one of then is pikes peak escudo a legendary suv ( but also infamous meme in grand turismo community too 😂😂) so thank you for upload a new video Stijn Paspont and have good weekend bye now. P.S. Hey Stijn Paspont when are you going to do my request for unique rallycross cars + can you please check some of your comments sections in last couple videos if you can ok then see you later bye now 😊.

  • @deepinthewoods8078
    @deepinthewoods8078 Рік тому +2

    That legendary DAF truck from Jan de Rooij in the Sahara desert... just epic!!

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch Рік тому +3

    The Hayabusa V8 out there is also combined with 2 straight 4 engines, do they count as well?

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +1

      Oh yeeaah. I totally forgot about those.

  • @il-ma.le.
    @il-ma.le. Рік тому +1

    Seat was preparing a two-engined racecar for that monster collection rally group that got cancelled, leaving other cars like te Delta ECV permanently unraced

  • @yommish
    @yommish Рік тому +1

    The best part is all the great footage. Is it all on UA-cam or do you ever have to search around or purchase it?

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +1

      there's a link to a list in the description that features all the footage.

    • @yommish
      @yommish Рік тому +1

      @@stijnpaspont should have checked, thank you. Appreciate the source lists

  • @sgkingly8392
    @sgkingly8392 Рік тому +4

    Tha land speed record has also seen its share of twin engine cars. The Sunbeam 1000hp 'Mystery' had 2 22.4L Sunbeam Matabele v12 aero engines. The Triplex Special had 3 27L Liberty V12 aero engines. Thunderbolt had 2 36.7L V12 aero engines. The Railton had 2 23.9L w12 engines.
    Then there is thrust ssc which had 2 afterburning Rolls Royce Speys out of a Phantom fighter jet

  • @stevendowns4378
    @stevendowns4378 Рік тому +1

    Is that.... the Ace Combat Zero aircraft selection music?
    MY GOD THERE'S MORE!

  • @andreysab3432
    @andreysab3432 Рік тому +1

    Love your vids man, keep up the good work ❤

  • @356Jordan
    @356Jordan Рік тому +1

    This list NEEDS the Fittipaldi Fusca
    Twin engined VW Bug that demolished lolas and GT40 at interlagos.

  • @chimchim2_
    @chimchim2_ Рік тому +1

    Love this channel

  • @neilmchardy9061
    @neilmchardy9061 Рік тому +1

    In the uk we have what is called grass track racing, the top class often use twin hyabusa engines which in a very light and small car is spectacular to say the least.

  • @filip-pi9hy
    @filip-pi9hy Рік тому +6

    nice video best car with twin engine is audi tt bimoto by MTM

  • @normalviewer740
    @normalviewer740 Рік тому +4

    Let’s goooo! Love silly dog racer man

  • @AaronSpielman
    @AaronSpielman Рік тому +1

    *Great* video!

  • @detectivesunshine1760
    @detectivesunshine1760 9 місяців тому

    Just browsing in my web browser and find this! Great Video, Stijn

  • @tetsmon
    @tetsmon Рік тому

    Someone made a one-engine-per-axle twin engine car on BeamNG, and it really made me appreciate the complexity of a traditional AWD system. driving the twin engine felt like if I had to pedal a bike where the pedals weren't connected to each other, for a lack of better expression.

  • @mooiboyace
    @mooiboyace Рік тому +1

    Could you do a video on top speed record cars? I remember seeing old (pre-war?)super aerodynamic Mercedes and Auto Union cars with crazy powerful 16 cilinder engines battling it out on the Autobahn.

  • @wroomwroomboy123
    @wroomwroomboy123 Рік тому +2

    There is a legendary interview of Ickx that I've heard from multiple old old schoolers about rhe DAF that I have never been able to locate. Where he uses more foul language he ever had.
    Ickx was asked about the stage or something, when in the desert, a DAF just blasted by them and disappeared in the horizon

  • @JSmith19858
    @JSmith19858 Рік тому +2

    The BRM H16 can't have been that bad, as it won a race in the back of a Lotus.

    • @stijnpaspont
      @stijnpaspont  Рік тому +1

      Proof that with a bit of good luck and Jim Clark behind the wheel, anything is possible

    • @DjDolHaus86
      @DjDolHaus86 Рік тому

      Good idea on paper, catastrophically unreliable in reality

  • @TheMadefaker2012
    @TheMadefaker2012 Рік тому +1

    thumbs up for the ace combat 5 background OST!

  • @laboratoryrack6488
    @laboratoryrack6488 Рік тому +1

    There was a Radical that used 2 Suzuki Hayabusa v4 engines, making it a v8.

  • @Triplez43
    @Triplez43 Рік тому +1

    Love the ace combat music I’m gonna go play that now lol

  • @effisjens1776
    @effisjens1776 Рік тому +2

    The first twin-engined racecar that i know about is i think this little Seat that was build for either Group B or Group S rallying. I recall it not being sucessfull at all.

    • @mikeymikey4186
      @mikeymikey4186 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, the Seat Ibiza BiMotor
      They couldn't figure out a 4WD system, so they just mounted a an additional engine transversily in the back that would power the rear wheels
      What's hilarious is that it had 2 sperate 5 speed gearboxes, for each of the engines, as well as 2 seperate tachometers
      It only ever ran in Spanish national rallies

  • @DHBKidd510
    @DHBKidd510 Рік тому +1

    Bro really used Ace Combat music in the background. Subbed.

  • @zexygamingwinter333
    @zexygamingwinter333 Рік тому +1

    Love the Ace Combat background music

  • @bzilla-d4i
    @bzilla-d4i Рік тому +1

    Enzo was a madman even in his Alfa Romeo days

  • @JooJSilvZ
    @JooJSilvZ Рік тому

    Nice video and Great background music from an Ace Combat game menu

  • @GuntanksInSpace
    @GuntanksInSpace Рік тому +1

    This was excellent, I didn't know about a lot of these (down to the amazing Dakar Truck)!

  • @59vaughn
    @59vaughn Рік тому +1

    Emerson fittipaldis vw bug down in Brazil ...??

  • @Agent-mb1xx
    @Agent-mb1xx Рік тому

    A guy in my province owns a twin-VR6 Corrado, nicknamed "Ghost" - the car is a beast

  • @eltonv8tao
    @eltonv8tao Рік тому +1

    There was a lack of a more detailed explanation about the position of the engines. 1 engine at the front and 1 engine at the back. or 1 engine connected to the other engine. or 2 engines side by side connected to the same gearbox.

  • @samuelebarberi8631
    @samuelebarberi8631 Рік тому +1

    Maybe in the next video you should mention the seat Ibiza bimotor

  • @healTHCare71965
    @healTHCare71965 Рік тому

    I miss home so much and being able to just go to the pikes peak hill climb. I wish I would have been able to see it when it was mixed surface before they paved it all

  • @guard13007
    @guard13007 Рік тому +1

    Ace Combat soundtrack over car information shouldn't work this well.

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch Рік тому +3

    Or the Citroen 2CV with two engines, 4x4? Nothing fast but was used in Africa afaik.

  • @SergioSergio12345
    @SergioSergio12345 Рік тому +1

    Is that Ace Combat 4/5/Zero music I recognize?

  • @Megaphone77
    @Megaphone77 Рік тому

    Drag racing in the 70s in America had a plethora of weird multi engine vehicles.

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers Рік тому

    Quality as always

  • @Tminus89
    @Tminus89 Рік тому +1

    Interessant onderwerp weer :)

  • @mikkoolavijarvinen3653
    @mikkoolavijarvinen3653 Рік тому +1

    Let's give a honorable mention to the USSR military for creating a twin-engined APC with two ordinary passenger car engines.

  • @SimplyTakuma
    @SimplyTakuma Рік тому

    The Bugatti Type 45 and 47 was also special, and the of course the W-engine from the Veyron and Chiron.

  • @bob_._.
    @bob_._. Рік тому

    The Chaparral 2J did not have "a pair of snowmobile engines" driving the fans, only one.

  • @kwisin1337
    @kwisin1337 Рік тому +1

    I miss the Escada pikss peak...❤❤

  • @axelregan
    @axelregan Рік тому

    Hairy Hurst Olds is gonna be my favorite twin engine race car

  • @ErkanMehmedali
    @ErkanMehmedali Рік тому +1

    is the background music from Ace Combat?

  • @The55nomad
    @The55nomad Рік тому

    Good stuff. Thank you.

  • @roberthill2219
    @roberthill2219 Рік тому

    There have been lots of successful twin engine drag cars, particularly in the early 60s during the NHRA Nitromethane ban.. . But... In 1966 after the release of the Oldsmobile Toronado with its 425 c.i. (7 liter) front wheel drive powertrain, there were TWO famously unsuccessful serious cars built using a pair of SUPERCHARGED Olds motors front end rear for a all wheel drive, tire smoking, out of control Funny Car that was more likely to wind up on top of the guard rail then make it down the track... look up the 'TERRIFYING TORNADO' and the 'HURST HAIRY OLDS'... Both of them had big budgets and drivers with big.....

  • @samc343
    @samc343 Рік тому

    hey, what about the SEAT Ibiza bimotor?

  • @Nlangkirby135
    @Nlangkirby135 Рік тому

    What about TV Tommy Ivo’s famous 4 engine 4wd Showboat dragster? There definitely should be a part 2 for this topic

    • @Nlangkirby135
      @Nlangkirby135 11 місяців тому

      Another example of a multi engine dragster is called the freight train… a twin engine top gas dragster.

  • @stevejones9290
    @stevejones9290 Рік тому

    Excellent video but Are the first 2 examples really twin engines? I don’t think so. The V12 Aston Martin was supposed to be based on 2 Ford Mondeo V6s.
    VW also built a twin engine Golf for Pikes Peak, and there was twin engined Mini Coopers in the ‘60s.

  • @BeamBinge
    @BeamBinge Рік тому +1

    ik was even bang dat je de daf niet ging benoemen😅

  • @snake_eater4
    @snake_eater4 Рік тому +1

    My respect for you brother you used the ace combat 0 the belkan war soundtracks

  • @DrBenIngle
    @DrBenIngle Рік тому

    The original mini with two engines or the audi tt always loved both of them

  • @artoodiitoo
    @artoodiitoo Рік тому +1

    No replacement for displacement
    except more displacement

  • @ruzgarakgul2051
    @ruzgarakgul2051 Рік тому +1

    Get this
    You get more engine, per engine
    Literally no downsides

  • @jamesreilly1786
    @jamesreilly1786 Рік тому +1

    Ace combat tunes❤

  • @bartomiejczerwinski5897
    @bartomiejczerwinski5897 Рік тому +1

    You forgot about two engined indycars

  • @minibus9
    @minibus9 Рік тому +1

    awesoeme video

  • @alaeriia01
    @alaeriia01 Рік тому

    Hopefully this video mentions the land speed record cars powered by multiple aerocraft engines.

  • @maggiepie8810
    @maggiepie8810 Рік тому

    Multiple engine setups are becoming more common in EV's. Electric motors are a lot smaller, so it makes sense

  • @pmman4232
    @pmman4232 5 місяців тому

    I love this guy

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider Рік тому +1

    please put timestamps

  • @288gto7
    @288gto7 Рік тому +1

    Whats up with ferrari logo on alfa romeos when ferrari as company didnt even exist? Did enzo ferrari made the ferrari logo in 30s while he was racing for alfa romeo and used the badge on alfa cars?

  • @robisfantasticutube
    @robisfantasticutube Рік тому

    "Sir the engines no good!"

  • @ngauruhoezodiac3143
    @ngauruhoezodiac3143 Рік тому

    Tazio Nuvolari won races with a 2 engine car that handled as well as a broken brick.

  • @LoganMPierce
    @LoganMPierce Рік тому

    Ace Combat 5 music! NICE!

  • @gp8666
    @gp8666 Рік тому

    to be fair the 2j made thrust with the auxiliary engine and reduced drag by quite a bit too

  • @KhristianGillespie
    @KhristianGillespie 11 місяців тому

    Hey you use Acecombat 5 unsang music!

  • @hoodedcreeper2465
    @hoodedcreeper2465 Рік тому +1

    I say put a 2 rotary on each wheel

  • @jodaytona2544
    @jodaytona2544 Рік тому

    Nice vidéo subject bro

  • @Realtime1501
    @Realtime1501 Рік тому

    Porsche flat 12 was just two of their flat 6 engines inline with the flywheel in the centre
    the real multiple engine story really starts in land speed racing
    Mickey Thompson twin Hemi
    Golden rods quad engine
    twin engine Indy cars also were around

  • @NBC_NCO
    @NBC_NCO Рік тому

    The more engines... more moving components .
    Therefore, there are more potential problems.