It you increase taxes three things happen. 1 is business close. 2 tax evasion increases and avoidance. 3 many businesses close to avoid paying. Means kra will collect less money. If the kenya government wants to collect more money must reduce wastage and corruption by 80%. Lower taxes rates and regulations and beaurocracy then revenue will increase.
Erick you are right.I feel that we are on the receiving end all the time as small businesses. Emails are flying all over with that phrase from 1st of Jan 2024 you will not be able to.........The law requires....weee we are in the dark. When do they hold these trainings?
what i know is this regime is messing every working process with their dreams. kibaki made the tax regime easy and fluid for anyone to do their filing and pay. the chaos today will see KRA make loses(not declines) in a decade. am tech survey as per say but can't figure my way around this, now consider the older generation who don't have accountants(their business can't even support one) but could do receipt and easy book account and pay turnover without qualms. they should have trained accountants first then on board for an year.
There are still countless small businesses that are yet to comply. Especially in the informal sector. Clearly at the moment they are concentrating on formal businesses situated in formal settings.
If i buy a packet of KSL sweets and i sell each for 1 Kes in my shop will i require to issues an invoice for every sweet I sell? The compliance cost will be too high. Tuko kwa shinda kweli.
Hi Latiff and team. This KRA lady sijamuelewa she needs to be simple explain to us properly do we still need ETR machines. What is the difference of having this software in points not that tax jargon. some of us don't have the resources to hire moonlighting accountants to do this for us break it down for mama mboga and the like to understand even if it means using Swahili or sheng for that matter. This TAX matter is so complex I have one pressing matter that needs clearance for example you have supplied the government with goods worth a million shillings after they award/give you an LPO then one year down the line they haven't payed you are you supposed to pay the VAT the month after you have supplied the goods or will you be charged all those months you have delayed to pay the VAT? You need to have her in the studio for about 5 days consecutively. Thanks
The eTIMS system is trash and cumbersome to use, i have a background in computing and it still frustrates me, now what of other business owners who are not very well versed with UNSPSC and stupid product codes? Again why would you have a system so crucial, yet it's just limited to one device yet as small businesses we usually hire external accountants who now have to have your computer to make these filings? If you want people to pay tax make it easy, we dont have time to work on our businesses and again deal with half baked tax softwares.
Kuna mhenga mjamoo amebaki huko 34b.eastlando...mnafaa kum trace anaitwa IDLE YAMBA... ALIWIKA @TY.., "UKIUUMWA NA NYOKA ONCE. UKIONA MSHIPI TOKA SYAKAAA😂".. sakaja mpatiee works hio mpya manager wa EMBAKASI London🇬🇧.. Through technology in shaa Allah
she also could not explain how the system works but they expect us to manage through it in the name that the taxpayer is technically advanced. The clouds are gathering
My problem is: My company's trade secrets and transactions are now open to persons outside my company. And i don't trust KRA officials not divulge this information to my competitors or unscrupulous people...
Youre system is still old. How is your system more expensive than the one we use in CAD, and ours is a headache, i remember a friend who owns a hotel, had to keep running to kra because their website is just shit, they always send people to his hotel, in the name of giving targets..😂😂😂 like who does that.
Kra iko nandi wengi. Ruto removing Many kikuyu nation have been removed from top kra jobs. Its called nandization of kenya in all government jobs. Sasa this is your serekali kikuyu nation enjoy. All kra top bosses will be trillionaires within 1 year.
@edwardonyaoking8173, this is a rather cheap way of looking at things. By the way, what is your definition of a KRA top job? From your records what was the % of Kikuyus in the top KRA jobs (a) in 2004 (b) 2015 and (c) 2024? Did KRA do wonders (qualify it) during each of the periods of Kibaki and Uhuru?
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It you increase taxes three things happen. 1 is business close. 2 tax evasion increases and avoidance. 3 many businesses close to avoid paying. Means kra will collect less money. If the kenya government wants to collect more money must reduce wastage and corruption by 80%. Lower taxes rates and regulations and beaurocracy then revenue will increase.
How hard was it for KRA to involve Lipa Na Mpesa as the point of compliance.
Legislation has to be in place
Erick you are right.I feel that we are on the receiving end all the time as small businesses. Emails are flying all over with that phrase from 1st of Jan 2024 you will not be able to.........The law requires....weee we are in the dark.
When do they hold these trainings?
am sure citzens wont mind paying tax but issue hear is they also need transparency on how their cash is being utilized
Nice proverb. Chura haina manyoya.
what i know is this regime is messing every working process with their dreams. kibaki made the tax regime easy and fluid for anyone to do their filing and pay. the chaos today will see KRA make loses(not declines) in a decade. am tech survey as per say but can't figure my way around this, now consider the older generation who don't have accountants(their business can't even support one) but could do receipt and easy book account and pay turnover without qualms. they should have trained accountants first then on board for an year.
There are still countless small businesses that are yet to comply. Especially in the informal sector. Clearly at the moment they are concentrating on formal businesses situated in formal settings.
If i buy a packet of KSL sweets and i sell each for 1 Kes in my shop will i require to issues an invoice for every sweet I sell? The compliance cost will be too high. Tuko kwa shinda kweli.
My invoice is refusing to download.
Is there a threshhold?
Hi Latiff and team. This KRA lady sijamuelewa she needs to be simple explain to us properly do we still need ETR machines. What is the difference of having this software in points not that tax jargon. some of us don't have the resources to hire moonlighting accountants to do this for us break it down for mama mboga and the like to understand even if it means using Swahili or sheng for that matter. This TAX matter is so complex I have one pressing matter that needs clearance for example you have supplied the government with goods worth a million shillings after they award/give you an LPO then one year down the line they haven't payed you are you supposed to pay the VAT the month after you have supplied the goods or will you be charged all those months you have delayed to pay the VAT? You need to have her in the studio for about 5 days consecutively. Thanks
Thank you sir. Been thinking of the same. Sadly we can't get an answer here and now.
May I jump in and answer you? You need to pay vat on the month the sale occured. Whether you have received the money or not.
The eTIMS system is trash and cumbersome to use, i have a background in computing and it still frustrates me, now what of other business owners who are not very well versed with UNSPSC and stupid product codes? Again why would you have a system so crucial, yet it's just limited to one device yet as small businesses we usually hire external accountants who now have to have your computer to make these filings? If you want people to pay tax make it easy, we dont have time to work on our businesses and again deal with half baked tax softwares.
do we pay VAT to both my capital and profit or just profits?
What about e-commerce, those like jumia, alibaba etc
Kuna mhenga mjamoo amebaki huko 34b.eastlando...mnafaa kum trace anaitwa IDLE YAMBA... ALIWIKA @TY.., "UKIUUMWA NA NYOKA ONCE. UKIONA MSHIPI TOKA SYAKAAA😂".. sakaja mpatiee works hio mpya manager wa EMBAKASI London🇬🇧.. Through technology in shaa Allah
There is a problem and this will back fire on someone very painfully it looks slavery..
Frog Aina manyoya means if u don't have some in come ur going to pay the tax doesn't matter
she also could not explain how the system works but they expect us to manage through it in the name that the taxpayer is technically advanced. The clouds are gathering
My problem is: My company's trade secrets and transactions are now open to persons outside my company.
And i don't trust KRA officials not divulge this information to my competitors or unscrupulous people...
This are half-baked officers left us more confused than before
9.months later etims still a shambles
Youre system is still old. How is your system more expensive than the one we use in CAD, and ours is a headache, i remember a friend who owns a hotel, had to keep running to kra because their website is just shit, they always send people to his hotel, in the name of giving targets..😂😂😂 like who does that.
Mama mboga hupeana receipt? 😂
Am also wondering if this rule requires mama mboga to issue an invoice.
Everybody has internet
Some of the questions are not helping to inform the public… it’s actually being fickle
Was Ngumu,koo and Patco necessary Erick 😂😂😂
Kra iko nandi wengi. Ruto removing Many kikuyu nation have been removed from top kra jobs. Its called nandization of kenya in all government jobs. Sasa this is your serekali kikuyu nation enjoy. All kra top bosses will be trillionaires within 1 year.
Uko na kabrain kadoogo
@edwardonyaoking8173, this is a rather cheap way of looking at things. By the way, what is your definition of a KRA top job? From your records what was the % of Kikuyus in the top KRA jobs (a) in 2004 (b) 2015 and (c) 2024? Did KRA do wonders (qualify it) during each of the periods of Kibaki and Uhuru?
@edward, thank you for speaking the truth