Tony Jeffries’ Reaction to an Aikido Demo is Priceless
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- A reaction to a reaction video as former champion boxer Tony Jefferies is introduced to the world of bullshido. Did our renowned Olympic boxing medalist misunderstand something about Steven Seagal’s aikido demo? Or was his reaction spot on?
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Tony thinks that he could box his way out in true fight? Only if oponent is not in clinch position. Aikido Demo is done to show the methods. A bit slow motion so crowd can see the move set. Once Aikido is in clinch distance forget about boxing. Overhand? Good luck.
I’m just going to pin this comment to see what everyone else thinks about Tony’s chances of out boxing an Aikido practitioner.
Um... 96 amateur & 10 professional fights multiple Olympic medals... Pretty sure he can fight my guy, trained fighters stomp I see red guys even if they only practice one discipline
@@jameskillen4369 Does the guy with the pinned comment know who Tony or Steven 'Sigung' is?
@@RamseyDewey lmao ramsey i got into it with a guy who said he heard of a tai chi master breaking a brick by tapping his finger lol
Boxers are pulled out of the clinch by the ref, yeah. But Aikido guys never practice the clinch or avoiding punches or kicks or takedowns. Or really anything. I'd put my money on a competitive tekken player of an Aikido guy - at least the former practices against resistance.
Next time my aunt comes up to me and tries to hug me I know exactly what to do. She will never see that clothesline. I will whisper in her ear, "Steven Segal sends his regards". Then I will proclaim to the world the greatness of Aikido.
Aunt-kido. It only works on the elderly, women, and the infirm.
@@doyourownresearch7297 Works on everything.
Dude, my dad use to always wear that style of hat, bringing back some of my good old childhood memories
This hat belonged to my grandad. He was a coal miner. He raised racing pigeons as a hobby. It’s good to have something that brings back the memories of those we love.
@@RamseyDeweymy old man was in construction, welder, rigger and alot more a proper jack of all trades, I haven't thought about that style of hat or how it use to be a trademark item of his until seeing it on you. That and good quality leather boots
Flat caps are based fashion
@@RamseyDewey Ramesy are you a real G?
@@RamseyDeweyyour such a good person bro
“Daddy, are they stupid?” Those are words I will never forget 😂😂😂
I met Tony Jeffries once, he comes from the same town as me. He'd just got back from the Olympics in Beijing. He was in a pub where I used to go with my family. He let us hold his medal. A really nice guy. Glad to see him doing well these days.
What Tony doesn’t know is that Aikido is FO DA STREETZ!!
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Tbh Aikido does have joint locks that have been deemed too dangerous for the UFC so your point is moot
No it's not
Tony has a fantastic channel about boxing..He was an Olympic Boxer winning a bronze medal
Tony Jeffries is definitely one of my favorites
It's not choreographed, that guy was moving preemptively because they're already being slowed down by Seagals Chi.
To answer Tony's question, based on what I've seen of actual Akido, it can probably be useful for someone who needs to control a much smaller and/or much weaker opponent who is not really a danger but needs to be moved or forced to comply with minimal damage. So a police officer or soldier dealing with prisoners could probably benefit from some knowledge of Akido in addition to their regular combatives or hand to hand combat training. I think Akido is basically meant as a supplement for someone who already knows how to defend themselves but is looking for extra tools to exert control over someone they can already dominate easily but maybe just don't want to injure too badly in the process.
Aikido sounds like an ANTI-martial art. Not a bad thing to have if you're 6'8.
I have indeed heard the justification of aikido as a supplement, and I suppose anything that looks at physical skills from a new point of view may be helpful. Several professional (American) footballers have benefitted from ballet, for example.
However, in practice, aikido dojos are almost universally open to beginners. Morohei Useshiba my have focussed on high-level practitioners of other arts - as he was himself - but it appears from his message as propounded by my instructors that his intention was that aikido is for everyone
Regular wrestling is much more useful, but as a security officer, you learn a set of moves to be used in conjunction with other officers. You have to know every part of the process, but, generally, you try not to detain alone if you can avoid it. I would not call it a martial art so much as a crash course in securing someone safely as a team.
We do, however, put every one of our guys through the white belt basics of judo so they can at least learn how to fall without hurting themselves. That's a life skill.
Aikido evolved as a less brutal form of Ju Jitsu. A pacifist martial art if you will. It probably has some health benefits and may be useful in some situations but is not a completely effective martial art on its own.
Trained in Tomiki Aikido for over 10 years, and you have absolutely hit the nail on the head. While I am not a fan of seagulls demonstration of Aikido, I will say that there are lots people who have a high level of skill who can do what he demonstrates. However, whether they can actually employ the skills in real combat, absolutely depends on the foundation of other martial arts combined with experience in actual street combat. The average person without other training experience, trying to employ Aikido in real life, is very likely to be killed.
my favorite part is all the Sambo guys in the background just being like "look at these asshats I could kneebar without trying"
you and tony are real fighteres, with the feet on the ground.. he start training jiu jitsu too.. hope see him in your channel some day
Hi Ramsey. Thank you again for answering my question yesterday. Much appreciated. I'm going to keep training and enjoying it.
A hat will not stop me, Dewey Man. It only adds fuel to my desire to grasp that beautiful chroma dome
Aiki is + or- 33% of my background, as in Yoseikan Budo. I can only say as per my experience, good aiki is only in people who also know fighting. Such exercise was intended to train falls (it's for the attackers, not the receiver) mostly, no reality application is required by who "suggests where to fall".Thanks Always great Coach 🙏💪🥋
Ramsey, the way you described how a typical street fights go is exactly how my school fights went 😅🤣😂 you can just turn that into a sketch. It's just perfect.
That fake low and come up with the high kick is amazing, could you show more of this kind of set ups?
Well, if you like getting knocked out... 😂
You know what really bothers me about this demo? Is the fact this is taking place at, what looks to be, a large sambo tournament. Imagine you’re waiting to start competing and they put this nonsense on.
I mean In the classic UFC we saw fighters of Sumo, Karate, Boxing, Savate, Muay Thai, Judo, Kickboxing, Luta Livre, Wrestling, BJJ but never Aikido.
According to every stuntman who has worked with Seagul, if you don't play along he will hurt you in any way he can. This includes broken bones and ruined careers. Steven Sadgul...
So he CAN hurt people?
yeah, sure, because they would be unemployed and expelled if they resisted...
@@nickcarroll8565 Anyone can hurt a person who lets themselves be put into a wrist lock by someone who they think is not going to hurt them.
@@RaimundoPAM Resist as in, make him actually throw them instead of throwing themselves like these guys do. 😂
@@nickcarroll8565 It isn't hard to hurt someone who lets you put them in a wristlock because they don't think you're going to hurt them. 😂
LOL Tony's reaction was hilarious!
Boxing is so underestimated as a MA. boxing is a brilliant MA, they are very fast, great timing, powerful, and amazing reflexes..
Its one of the best for street fighting..
But if a Grappler grab a Boxer they doesn’t have skills to defend against Grappling, I think the best are you know a bit of everything that is useful.
@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh Absolutely, I was, however, highlighting the benefits of boxing and why it's underestimated , so many MA's, especially back in the day, didn't rate boxing, they are so limited, they can only use their hands, failing to realise , how destructive them hands are and the skills that go with it.
The main criticism came from either MA's that have never had a real fight in their lives or traditional, semi contact fighters.
How is it "understimated"? When I see people respond to what are the most effective fighting sports, boxing gets mentioned right alongside bjj, kickboxing, muay thai and wrestling.
@@DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh Yeah, but that's a big commitment. When I'm blackout drunk and get into an argument, I can punch the other guy and walk away. If he's a superior grappler, he could beat my ass, but he'd have to commit to it.
@MrCmon113 Because many people. Believe it or not , don't rate boxing, the amount of people I've debated over the years that claim boxing isn't a martial art and not as effective (or even effective)on the street as other martial arts , is in the 1000s.
This was also due to many crossover comps between pure boxers ( in the ring) vs. MAs in the old days,resulting in the boxers losing badly..
I've always said that the best MA's for the street is
Boxing
Any grappling
Thai boxing.
With comps now like MMA, they realised that the most effective punching was the boxer style punch, but you have to understand, I'm probably older than you, and so presumably been into MAs a lot longer than you and seen a lot of debates on this subject over the years.
I think I also answered the question in my post just above yours.
I hope that helps..🙏
Thanks for teaching me a new word today, Ramsey. Even as a comic book and D&D fan myself, I curiously had never heard the term ergokinesis used before today. Fun little word. The more you know... 🌠, haha.
I had that same hat in ‘96!
Love both of these guys! Very cool to see the humor as well as mutual respect
The funniest part of these Seagall Aikido videos or shorts is the comment section.
What I got out of aikido was some good friends and the ability to take a fall, which is very helpful the older I get - lots of old people die of side-effects from falls.
As for fighting?
Well, practice was *always* choreographed, so that you knew what offensive technique the opponent (uke) was going to use. This was a great advantage, although I do not know how that works IRL.
Also, attackers were supposed to be compliant so you could learn the proper form. If attacker resisted, you might not be able to complete the technique, and what's the sense of that ;-)
Another thing you'll notice in those demos is that the attacker never follows up. One would think that if the defender has taken control of your left arm, you would use your right arm to punch them or grab them somewhere helpful ... but that's not aikido, I guess. Also attackers should never throw a combination of 2 or more punches because that interferes with practicing proper technique.
I think what happens with sincere people - like me and my friends and my instructors - is we stepped onto the mat expecting to be taught a very cool martial art, possibly the best one because it advertized the peaceful resolution of conflict - and wouldn't that be a great thing?
The first couple of years I understood I had to practice compliant technique and so forth, because learning sophisticated technique takes time.
After enough time had passed, the sceptics had left and we who were left just enjoyed each other's company a lot. Like I said, great friends. We also persuaded ourselves that we were indeed practicing the ultimate martial art, I believed in all sincerity. Don't ask me why, that's just how people are sometimes.
Now as for insincere people - of which there are some in every part of life - Mr. Seagal has a meal ticket. Why does he need to practice effective technique when the money is rolling in?
All this is by way of explanation, not of excuse. Humans are funny people.
You summed this up very well. I only took Aikido for a few months from a former guitar student of mine who was at that time 4th dan and the highest ranked Aikido instructor in the area. I'm going to preface the rest by saying this guy was one of the kindest people I've ever known, so from that perspective his martial arts training was obviously legit. I'd had other martial arts training, and I'd ask him questions like "would this really work?" and he was very patient with his answers. He told me that when he earned 1st dan ranking he'd sparred a Karate black belt and gotten his ass kicked. This was around the mid 1990's and I'd seen a couple of UFC's, and when I heard about a weekend training cruise with Royce and Rorion Gracie I jumped on it and went. When I got back I was telling my Aikido instructor friend about it and his exact words were "I don't know anything about fighting on the ground." That was my last Aikido class.
I love Tony, he gives susinct boxing advice and he has some of my favorite videos on trying BJJ for the first time.
I like Tony , been following him for a while, I like that he isn't afraid to try other martial arts like BJJ and Muay Thai, his kicks are rough but he will improve quickly .
dang, if i could move stuff with my mind, i'd never encounter a traffic jam ever again XD
Thank you, Coach Ramsay! I needed a smile!
Aikido has a strict 'No Hugging' policy.
Morihei Ueshiba was a very accomplished martial artist before he developed aikido. Heavily influenced by Japanese jiu jitsu. IMO A black belt aikidoist who became a good boxer would be very formidable, as he would have two very different but complimentary skill sets. Same with Tony Jeffries studying aikido. Now that would be something to see! 😆
Much of aikido, by itself, will get you hurt in a real fight if that's all you have--for the simple reason that your opponent really wants to hurt you, not make you look good. But if you set him up with a good punch or three, then you may well be able to employ aikido as a finisher. Joint locks are no joke.
Also IMO, the first and best single art you should study is boxing. Then build upon that.
Your description of a street fight had me cracking up, so true!
I bought one of Tony's shirts!
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Lol have you noticed the Sambo team laughing in the background? Lol mcDojo Master Seagal lol!
I did it for a year before I switched to Judo and BJJ. It is fun and good exercise but nothing more. People just need to stop pretending its something its not.
I re-heard your story of passing out bibles and Books of Mormon to muggers while narrating your story. I thought you would be interested to know that your technique of self narration is one I use in healthcare. I typically work with persons of diminished emotional control either due to dementia, traumatic brain injury or drug use - sometimes all three at once. Common situations often result in the patient having an emotional breakdown and subsequently assault their caregivers. I cut down on assaults dramatically by narrating myself. "I am now taking off your left sock, I am now placing your sock on the floor. I am now removing your right shoe" Several patients have told me this helped them stay calm. I also do this when new patients come to the hospital and I need to go through their belongings to record them and search for weapons and drugs, which we do with every single patient, every single time, no matter what. I always narrate "I am now reaching into the primary pocket of your bag, I am removing this shirt, I am unfolding your shirt, I am checking the breast pocket, I am giving it a shake, I am folding the shirt and placing it at the foot of the bed" this has saved me multiple times from people thinking I stole their stuff - even people who tell me repeatedly that my narration is overkill because they trust me will later accuse me of stealing, and I get to remind them that I narrated everything my hands did. I tell new staff about my technique, but it still has not caught on.
I love the fake anecdotal comments from people who claim their aikido gym is different and does sparring so they know it works...acting as if someone resisting 10 percent is the same as live competition...seen in boxing amateur fights, bjj and judo tournaments etc.... but it's always anecdotal and always some random school out in the middle of nowhere....that's totes different and teaches the real thing lol
There is legitimate aikido sparring and plenty of evidence of it happening at 100 percent. The talent pool isn’t very large so it’s not as good as high level judo or wrestling or other such things, but it’s good stuff nonetheless.
@@michaelterrell5061 if there's "plenty of evidence" please provide at least one video of this type of "legitimate aikido sparring." Like just one dude. I bet you can't even do that.
There's a small subsection of Aikido guys that spar and compete. But the founder of Aikido himself told people not to spar.
@@MrCmon113 Techniques like standing wrist and armlocks, as well as throws based on standing wrist and arm locks don't lend themselves to sparring. Which is another problem with aikido. Judo, on the other hand works well and can be done with full power and speed precisely because Kano removed the techniques that were too dangerous to be done in sparring.
I took Aikido for a few months. It was quite useful. The break falls are quite valuable. One in particular saved me from a broken arm when I was dumb enough to step onto a skateboard the first time.
Yeah but you can learn all that in Judo AND actually learn to fight
@@serpentinefire921 while most break falls do overlap between the two there are some that are unique to Aikido. Judo generally doesn’t have throws based on wrist locks while Aikido does. These sometimes have specific break falls that don’t apply to Judo. When I fell off the skateboard this is one I used.
That said, for the break falls that do overlap, I think Judo practitioners are better at them. I certainly didn’t see diving rolling break falls over rows of people in Aikido, but it was a weekly ordeal in Judo.
I respect Tony Jeffries he is very street wise.
All those poor Samboists who have to stand there respectfully. I wish them well.
What a lot of people don't understand about aikido including a lot of the people who practice/ teach it, is that it's a bunch of low percentage techniques designed to help you use a sword if someone's trying to grab and control you or ways to control someone who has a weapon.
And on top of that itvs done in a meditative way that isn't designed to teach you how to actually fight. Aikido is not meant for fighting it's a moving meditation to help improve your body and mind. In fact any japanese martial art with the suffix do (way) is designed to help improve your body, mind, and spirit. They might be a combat sport or they might be a moving meditation but the aim isn't supposed to be to be a violent person it's usually the opposite.
That's absolutely not the case.
Aikido is a hand-to-hand fighting system. They don't practice with swords. They do claim that it works. That something is "meditative" is an excuse that only comes up after something was shown not to work.
@@blockmasterscott Anything works when it's two 100kg dudes against one drunk 70kg idiot.
Wooden swords are everywhere in aikido.
@@blockmasterscott You guys can't even agree on an excuse.
Since when do bouncers use swords? Why are policemen meditating while arresting a subject?
Liked and comment for the hat alone!
Re Demonstrations: the wealth of available combat sports today has rendered the martial arts "demonstration" (even ones that are well done) useless at best and usually comical. You wanna show me your art is effective? Don't show me a demonstration. Show me you or your students (or at least practitioners of that martial art as a whole) success in combat sports. Because that shows me it really works.
Works for what? Combat Sports show Martial Arts in a sports context only, as if that is the only virtue a Martial Art can offer. Not every Martial Artist is training for sport and a demonstration only serves to show what an art has to offer, if a person wanting to study a Martial Art sees a Martial Art in a demo, I would assume it needs to tick the boxes for what the customer is looking for, maybe Aikido looks cool enough and that may be what they want, just an activity that looks cool.
As far as me showing you what I do actually works, I can't, I can say I don't ever recall losing a sports combat competition, it would also be intellectually disingenuous of me to claim the effectiveness of my Traditional Martial Art is down to it practice as I have trained a hell of a lot of sports Martial Arts. Does my TMA work in a sports context, I would say probably but it is not the most time efficient way to get good at a particular sport, but some of the qualities developed are the ones you need, a strong body and a iron will, good technique and an understanding of the principles, these are all very transferable.
@@andymax1 Works in a fight, obviously. And you're right, some people don't train martial arts to learn how to fight. And I don't have any issue with that. If you're doing it because it's fun or it looks cool or it's historical in someway that you appreciate, have at it! But we are talking about "Martial" arts. We're talking about the art of fighting.
I would hazard to guess that for most people they train martial arts because they want to be able to handle themselves in a fight. And sports combat... mind you I'm not talking about point karate or something like that, but full contact striking or full power Grappling or a combination of both… Is fighting. And if it works in that, then it works in a fight.
@@judosailor610 true enough that a majority are looking how to defend themselves, I don’t think that was me though I’m doing it for exercise, but in saying that I find the best arts for that are the sports ones, one day perhaps when I am retired aikido or Tai Chi will be a good choice to maintain mobility and movement.
@@andymax1 Sounds good man. Cheers!
@@andymax1 What a bunch of horseshit. People sign up to traditional martial arts dojos, because they claim to teach ppl how to fight.
Dewey, I suggest you and Tony dial up Segal and have a one on one session with him then make a judgement.
I still can’t tell if Steven Seagal is a troll or not. Like he’s been playing a part that’s gone way too far or something and he’s committed to the bit.
"at least Steven didn't fell into the telekinesis thing"
Well, other than the second guy.
I practice karate, and we used to do demo in the street square, shoes and protective gear on, full contact fighting with no prearranged moves
Tony makes sense.
It’s the do-rag. You got to wear the do-rag in order for aikido to work.
AIKIDO IS ACTUALLY VERY EFFECTIVE IF YOU CHALLENGE A KINDERGARDEN AS AN ADULT AIKIDO MASTER
I love that some people are defending this ridiculous bullshido
Don't hate on Aikido. It's a great way to learn how to fall down without hurting yourself (much).
You guys need to stop using the word “hate” until you learn what it means.
The funniest thing in my opinion is most of these moves won't even take the opponent down because there's no sweep, at most they might unbalance the attacker a bit or pull the attacker to a different direction.
Great Video , thanks.
Tony is a good dude and excellent fighter.
"300 victories by way of awesomeness" :D
Ramsey, you got to see Vargas discussing the video of Steven Seagal helping light heavyweight UFC champion to train aikido for his fight. And how illogical is everything he's teaching...
I just watched it. Gabriel Varga is another one of those guys who is super nice and diplomatic and never disrespects anyone… and even he had a hard time not tearing that video apart.
Everytime guys in my Judo dojo train some of these more obscure techniques (for kata), its always "I'm gonna move my hands like this and you're gonna perform a breakfall, alright?" lmao
drop a link to the Video into the description pls so we can see the original too :)
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Ramsey, I hope you told your daughter, "why yes. Yes, they are stupid."
While still not combat sport/street grade by any means, the old school Seagal Aikido demos were legit as hell (for what they were). He was truly doing full on Aikido Randori with ferocity and precision. While he probably still has these skills (perhaps even more refined over time), this recent demo seems like he's barely moving. Hugely different than the 80s/90s Seagal!
Actually, I love the way you described street fights 😁
Regarding the second attack, it's hard to see, but I guess the attacker was coming with a kind of yokomen'uchi, in a way that he was already pivoting and Seagal's move was "enough" to make him fly... Just by giving him the space to fall into.
In my opinion the difficult part in Aikido is translating the basic forms into movements that would be effective against more realistic "street attacks"
Love your channel
Love the flatcap, coach. I have a similar one.
Aikido is great if you want to handicap yourself against the opponent!
This is the reaction meta!
Viking Samurai just got annoyed with Tony's video and called him out. Apparently Seagal is gonna be training him for his upcoming boxing fight. This could be some fun drama to watch unfold.
Standing wrist and arm locks (as found in aikido, hapkido, etc) work* in 3 and only 3 circumstances. 1. You have such a significant size and/or strength advantage that you can simply manhandle your opponent. 2. You catch your opponent completely by surprise. 3. Your opponent is not actually fighting back, but is simply passively resisting**. In any other case and especially if your opponent is actively attacking you, it has a very low percentage chance of being applied successfully. In other words, it doesn't work.
*Meaning they can be successfully applied a high percentage of the time.
**Passive resistance is a LE term used to refer to someone that is refusing your commands , but not actively resisting (aka fighting back). They are basically just standing there, perhaps tensing up, but not pulling away or attacking.
4) your opponent is drunk. Seem to work well for some bouncers
@@scollyb Haha. Yeah probably that too. 😂. That said, I have a feeling that a lot of situations bouncers use it in fall under one of the 3 situations I outlined.
@judosailor610 true or if not 2 as anything would surprise them
@@scollyb Those same bouncers could probably just pick the guy up and carry him out.
Aikido(particularly aikikai) randori is not simulation of a fight, It's more of a practice to evade and to apply aikido techniques in quick successions to multiple attackers. You wouldn't know which one will attack you and the attacker wouldn't know what technique will be applied to them so both of them improvise on the spot according to their roles.
I dont think Aikidoka ever slow down videos of themselves to pick apart their bad habits. Tony actually walks you through that process. For free. With a checklist.
Would be interested to see a reaction to Leo Tamaki's style of aikido, Jesse Enkamp made a pretty cool video with him
Aikido demos are not fight simulation, also most of the training isn't. In the demos the attacker puts effort to make the attacker succeed, similar to a movie stunt. The better skilled the attacker at receiving the attacker the nicer it looks. In training you decide what resistance and force you want to train at.
But it's an interesting drill (the zombie run), I wish you would give it a try, but take someone with you that knows how to properly drill it
The attacker should provide a force vector, that doesnt mean he is compliant, but it it's not a fight, only one direction. The defender need to redirect that vector... From experience, it's hard and not intuitive.
I like you videos, I think in many respects Aikido is similar to Tai chi, it shouldn't be judged as a fighting training.
Hehehehe! I detected the Easter egg right at the end... Where you said, "Take a LEGITIMATE aikido class".
Hey Ramsey, I have a question. How come when we compare different martial arts it’s ONLY with how well they spar for example, karate vs mma. Why don’t we also include how well someone handles themselves if they are attacked such as a shove, grab, knife attack etc? As important as being able to spar is, a lot of self defense does not start with two people squaring up. I feel if we included more tests we would get a more complete idea of effective different styles may or may not be. (Where I train at, we will have a group of 5 people. One is in the middle and the other four take turns randomly attacking and we have to use what we know to defend ourselves. We also train fighting more than one opponent at the same time
You are just comparing one type of sparring to a different type of sparring. Sparring for a combat sport is it the same as competing in a combat sport, and sparring with the intent to prepare for real world violence is so far removed from real world violence it’s almost laughable.
Now, you tell me, why do YOU compare different martial arts ONLY with how well they spar?
@@RamseyDewey I really don’t and I’m sorry if it came off this way, I find value in tons of martial arts. I primarily study kenpo but have some experience with goju ryu. I’m hoping to get into boxing and bjj this year. I’m impressed with the kicking abilities of taekwondo and find wing chun fascinating. However, for personal reasons and not living in the greatest of areas I put an emphasis on self defense with my training more so than the other benefits you get from martial arts. I just think that some martial arts get short changed when in comparison videos, not yours just other ones I’ve seeen online. I think people are too eager to discredit an art just because the value of it might not be as straightforward as others. I believe that some martial arts you have to actively think about to get the full benefits of them.
Son enormes 😮
I feel like things resembling Akido and Hapkido took a very small and sometimes useful piece of martial arts and just overcommitted to it, to the point of nonsense. Like a boxing gym that does lead uppcuts only.
Right, that's useful, but only so much, and it gets a lot weaker and less useful when it's NOT mixed with other things.
And then - like karate and TKD - the cult shit takes over and any remaining value is lost.
Ramsey, I totally agree with you here. But I've been training with Jose Navarro couspinera, he's got several videos up here and he's a black belt in aikido along with judo and karate, He's really adamant that the movements in aikido the fundamentals are nearly the same as they are in judo and he's pretty amazing I don't know if you've gotten a chance or come across him but if not check him out and see what you think. I mean he's a judo coral belt and it spent his whole life training so he's pretty awesome at all of it but he's quite fond of aikido moves and even skilled BJJ black belts get humbled by him
I think it’s a bit easier laugh at seagal in this video with his goofy classes and headwear but in his younger days he would have been a genuine martial artist he was black belt in judo ,karate and aikido all of that and being 6.4 would of helped a little
I do not believe he had all had any black belts in any other arts besides Aikido. If he did they were honorary. But I can literally find no confirmation of that anywhere. No certificates, no naming of who supposedly awarded him those black belts. Plus, just look at him. He never does anything other than aikido. That said, his aikido credentials are mostly legitimate. I'll give them at least that much. And I guess he can shoot pretty well! That's not sarcasm, apparently it's true.
I was surprised that Seagal done this without seating in his favorite chair XD
outfit looks great on you man
A great man once said "everyone has aa plan until they get hit".
Hi Ramsey, I started doing kickboxing recently, around end of january. I recently took a few hits that wasn't so good in sparring (my fault, I was leaning back at a bad angle), and I had a really bad headache for a night, and some minor head pains in the next few following days. What signs should i look for to tell if it's serious enough to warrant taking a break/seeing a doctor, and/or how long to wait before sparring again?
"When did Ramsey become such a jerk?" - some interenet rando lol
I think modern aikido doesn’t work by design. Morihei Ueshiba removed most of the important principles like atemi, otoshi, gakun, etc. from his art after the war. If you can find old videos of his prewar demonstrations, you can see a lot of “force” was used by the founder himself.
7:40 "It's just boxing" I know Tony Jeffries was a boxer, but that does not mean he has not been in a real fit or two.
I agree with everything here, but I have to add this story. My dojo put on a demo for Philippine Day at the local university. One of our very skilled black belt/ black sash student did end up with a bloody face when he missed a counter to an olisi (stick) swung at his head. Some demos are more real than others.
That is why I am absolutely amazed when I see demos with live swords, that shit can go wrong.
Seagal have Superman powers and belly size of USA nacional debth
steven seagals moveset is _very_ effective. its effective against smaller opponents than himself. ..smaller opponents who dont know how to fight.
Eats another clothesline TO THE FACE😂😂🤣.. Coach..look..ITS BULLSHIT
It's not like every street brawler's default setting is boxing.✌
As you said l, it's a demo, not a fight, the drill is specific ... Both roles are predefined. So the whole criticism is not to the point. The better question would be what is the demo about? Does it develop anything useful?
I can't comprehend how self proclaimed MIXED martial artists would disparage an art continually when they lack knowledge and understanding of it. It's prejudice, the stance of ignorant bullies. I've trained in a lot of different arts and systems because I have a real passion for martial arts and am genuinely curious about the different perspectives and approaches that martial art creators have. Aikido at its core is very similar to boxing and BJJ and I know that because I've trained in all three and didn't judge by what I saw in a movie or a UA-cam video. I love all three systems for different reasons. I still train in boxing (6 years) and Aikido (16 years) but had to quit BJJ because I blew out my knee. I just had surgery so maybe I will regain the flexibility needed to start BJJ again. All martial arts have something to offer and there isn't one to rule them all. That being said, I love the idea of Muay Thai and think it's pretty damn close to covering everything I want. I've seen elements of Aikido (philosophy of entering and grappling) I trained it for a couple of months before my knee incident so I'll definitely be transitioning from boxing to train in it exclusively. I was a regular watcher of Tony's channel, kinda disappointed that an Olympian would have such a myoptic view.
You trained in aikido for a couple of months and you’re telling ME that I lack experience in the subject? 😂 Wow. I’m very interested in hearing your justifications as to why you think Steven Seagal’s demo is above scrutiny, as you didn’t offer any. Instead, you created a red herring argument about how disrespectful and judgy everyone supposedly is about the art of aikido generally speaking.
Steven Seagal clearly studied the "George Dillman" school of "nonsense-fu" and applied that learning to his Aikido.....lol. Grown men and women NEVER fall down at the slightest touch in martial arts. This is hilarious!
I got it! This is not a demo of the martial arts attack moves, it is a rolling demo. And they are doing a good job at it. This is how you roll in a variety of bad situations.
I've done a year of muay thai and jiu jitsu, an experienced boxer would easily beat me up.
That hat! You need a sheep dog, a flock of sheep and a cup of Yorkshire tea.
It belonged to my granddad. He was a coal miner.
@@RamseyDewey downt maaahns
What if demos were just that: demonstrations? But! What if the purpose was to showcase a selection of techniques and then afterwards, they spar w the intent to execute the specific demonstrated techniques.
If you made a point system, based on technical relevance and requisite skill... I guess it's kinda like iron chef.
What an interesting combat sport that would be... Maybe I'm just drunk. Lol
What should I do in Bjj if I’m doing a buggy choke and they defend? Is there a way I could get the buggy choke even when they defend?
I’ve trained some aikido along with mostly judo and some BJJ. Aikido is fun and demonstrates some good body positioning and biomechanical ideas to defend against some very committed movement patterns. It’s a low intensity training that has improved my throws a bit and opened my eyes to more wrist locks. That said, I don’t see myself hitting many aikido techniques in BJJ open mat against anyone but a very new white belt.
Edited to add: Seagal is considered a joke among aikido people too
Nope, Seagal is a totally legit Aikido master.
The founder of Aikido told people not to spar and pretended to have magical powers. Compared to that guy, Seagal is pretty down to earth.
@@MrCmon113 that’s why we do the branch founded by a judo guy (Tomiki) and incorporate it into our judo randori. It’s fun because you have controlled strikes (shoden ate) to the face to set up a throw and can counter an aikido technique with a foot sweep.