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  • After a gang banger is found dead, accusations fall upon a young boy. That is until they discover that the boy has a twin... yet the crime scene DNA points towards a male.
    Season 6, Episode 12 'Identity': Complications ensue in the investigation of a gangbanger who fell off a building after the victim that he tried to rape bit him in self-defense. When Detectives Benson and Stabler are sure that they have found the victim (Reiley McClendon), his twin sister (Reiley McClendon) admits to biting the gangbanger even though the bite came from someone who was chromosomally male. The twins are shocked at the revelation that their parents (John Bolger and Hillary Bailey Smith) tried to raise one of them as a girl after a botched circumcision. Investigation reveals more regarding the ulterior motive of a doctor (Peter Firth) to prove that nurture supersedes nature.
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  • @amandaljohnson
    @amandaljohnson 11 місяців тому +3206

    Their doctor was freaking sick. Sad that other doctor who told the truth to the mutilated twin had to lose her license and job for doing what the parents weren't brave enough to do: tell the truth. This is up there with the one of the craziest episodes of SVU.

    • @cloudstone123
      @cloudstone123 11 місяців тому +212

      And it is actually based on a real life case of a doctor who did this for the same reason.

    • @peter_pansexual6243
      @peter_pansexual6243 11 місяців тому +71

      This is based on John Money.

    • @DUCKDUDE4100
      @DUCKDUDE4100 11 місяців тому +1

      It happens a lot. Circumcisions go wrong and that's the messed up solution they use and intersex people are often mutilated at birth. Trans people routinely push for it be be banned because they understand how much being forced to live as another gender can harm a child, which is why I find it incredibly ironic that right wingers accuse them of pushing this onto kids.

    • @Bigmikecustomsteel
      @Bigmikecustomsteel 11 місяців тому +105

      It’s based on the Rymer twins and John Money when he was pushing gender dilution

    • @KrystoRock
      @KrystoRock 11 місяців тому +32

      Based on a true story

  • @Alex-rs1we
    @Alex-rs1we 11 місяців тому +2351

    If I remember correctly, the doctor who was advising the police not to tell Lindsay/Luke that he was born a boy at birth was also doing some extremely horrible things to the twins in therapy in the name of "teaching Lindsay how to be a girl." I wasn't sad to see him dead and with no way to charge his murderer.

    • @bursegsardaukar
      @bursegsardaukar 11 місяців тому +253

      Too bad the real doctor (John Money) got away with it in real life. The real twins ended up committing suicide.

    • @koppsr
      @koppsr 11 місяців тому +84

      Money not only got away with it, many misguided 🤡 see that monster as the Messiah of trans S-uality. All built on the bones of those two little boys. I'm not even blaming the parents. They were in an unfathomable situation and looked for help and guidance. You tend to trust doctors. They trusted the wrong one.

    • @dietotaku
      @dietotaku 11 місяців тому

      @@koppsr care to elaborate on what you mean by that? money founded the idea that gender identity is environmental, not biological, actual trans people and their doctors know it's a part of who we are from the moment we're born. if money is the "messiah" of anyone it's the nutjobs who think liberals are "transing" kids or that "rapid onset gender dysphoria" is a thing.

    • @KomoliRihyoh
      @KomoliRihyoh 11 місяців тому +182

      @@koppsr Hi, Trans person here! We all think Money was a horrible monster who's research was unethical and useless. We existed before Money's studies, and we'll exist long after he fades from memory.

    • @wtichery
      @wtichery 11 місяців тому +17

      i hope you also agree children should not be involved/taught these things at a young age because of the mental health statistics of substance abuse and or self harm@@KomoliRihyoh

  • @jimwise4307
    @jimwise4307 11 місяців тому +1115

    That child actor did a really great job.

    • @WarGrowlmon18
      @WarGrowlmon18 11 місяців тому +61

      Riley McClendon I think. He was in a couple of pretty good Disney Channel Original Movies back in the day.

    • @valnerothgaming
      @valnerothgaming 6 місяців тому +11

      Came a long way from the Million Dollar Cook-off that's for sure

    • @kevaunmitchell1316
      @kevaunmitchell1316 Місяць тому +2

      Reiley McClendon

  • @JRJuggernaut1
    @JRJuggernaut1 11 місяців тому +974

    One of the craziest twists in all of the show’s history. Crazy to me that everyone was so hush hush about this even when the kid admitted to being there!

    • @mikebasil4832
      @mikebasil4832 11 місяців тому +24

      This episode is most profound reminder of how delicate the subject matter in the Law & Order universe can often be.

    • @anastasia-rv5si
      @anastasia-rv5si 11 місяців тому +57

      It’s even crazier this is based on a true story/case about the Reimer twins. The poor boys went through so much especially David who was the one forced to be a girl.

    • @angie2452
      @angie2452 11 місяців тому +7

      The episode called Families is the other one. And both episodes involved the family keeping a secret from someone.

    • @haylene7521
      @haylene7521 11 місяців тому +14

      ​@@anastasia-rv5si david has passed away now. The depression got too much.

    • @JRJuggernaut1
      @JRJuggernaut1 11 місяців тому

      @@mikebasil4832 yeah, just look at how they covered transgender people before the subject became so toxic on social media!
      law and order often treats these subjects delicately and with respect, but sometimes watching them do it so long ago makes me wonder how the climate on some of these subjects shifted so much.
      Just to focus on transgender people for a second, it is amazing how despite most people supporting transgender people using spaces that match their gender identity, we still have so many bigots who will dehumanize them and use false tropes to justify their intolerance to the idea. It is shameful when you consider how SVU acted as a reminder that they are all just people at the end of the day, and yet you cannot go one day without seeing some bigot rant about how all transgender people are either fetishists or sexual predators. I hope the onslaught of anti-LGBT+ legislation ends ASAP!

  • @chsparkle
    @chsparkle 11 місяців тому +964

    And to think a pointless procedure to soothe the parents ego caused all this.

    • @AH-te5gs
      @AH-te5gs 11 місяців тому +62

      Child abuse as far as I'm concerned.

    • @sapphireseptember
      @sapphireseptember 11 місяців тому +56

      Agreed. No one should be chopping healthy body parts off children.

    • @estherross1
      @estherross1 11 місяців тому +30

      So sad that this is still happening today.

    • @thatgermanicguy
      @thatgermanicguy 11 місяців тому +1

      Transgenderism never ends well.

    • @drewhaynes1874
      @drewhaynes1874 11 місяців тому +10

      @@estherross1 not really.....

  • @Maatjuhhh
    @Maatjuhhh 11 місяців тому +269

    This was the case that has stuck most with me. Law and Order SVU was really famous for the plot twists late in the episode. This also aired in mid 2000's, so our society was wholly different back then.

    • @omarcogle1965
      @omarcogle1965 11 місяців тому +3

      You know looking at this also makes you really worry about Jazz Jennings. She was at a very young age when she transistioned, but still.

    • @dietotaku
      @dietotaku 11 місяців тому +23

      @@omarcogle1965 it would only make you worry if you took this episode as your entire understanding of gender identity. this episode was based on a real life case of a cisgender boy who was transitioned without his consent. the only reason you'd have to worry about jazz jennings or any other trans kid is if they were being forced to live as a cisgender child.

    • @omarcogle1965
      @omarcogle1965 11 місяців тому +3

      @@dietotaku I know about David's story, and it's very sad.

    • @renaldsunset
      @renaldsunset 11 місяців тому +5

      @@dietotakuforced or not, all these kids regret making those ‘’changes’’

    • @KomoliRihyoh
      @KomoliRihyoh 11 місяців тому +12

      @@renaldsunset Hi, trans person since childhood here! You don't speak for us.

  • @jamiejameskingofgames4648
    @jamiejameskingofgames4648 11 місяців тому +692

    This was based on a real story. The boy forgave his mom but took himself out. It was such a hard life

    • @lindinle
      @lindinle 11 місяців тому +60

      Its the dr.munny story. Both kids offed themselves.

    • @michaelnoble2432
      @michaelnoble2432 11 місяців тому +47

      @@lindinle John Money, one of history's worst monsters.

    • @imopman
      @imopman 9 місяців тому +25

      @@michaelnoble2432 And he was a leader in bringing forth the current ideological cult that was spawned using his "success" as proof.

    • @HenryLouis21
      @HenryLouis21 7 місяців тому

      @@imopman Not even remotely true because “gender ideology” predated John Money, and trans people were actually one of the earliest targets of the Nazi regime.

    • @Vynjira-chan
      @Vynjira-chan 7 місяців тому

      @@imopman John Money's views are directly contradicted by the current understanding of Trans Identities.
      He believed Gender Identity was Malleable..
      (Which is the idea behind ROGD/Social Contagion or that it's how you Raise your Kids.. "Nurture not Nature")
      Trans people and the Doctors and Scientists who support them... believe it's innate and immutable from Birth (technically it's during development in the Womb, which makes it "Nature not Nurture").
      _________
      It's funny you're repeating this Myth that John Money has anything to do with Trans people.. when he was particularly obsessed with trying to change Trans people's Gender Identity.. and when he failed, he said Transgender People had an Idée fixe.. which was his excuse for why his theory of "Gender Identity being Malleable" failed on Trans people (it failed on David Reimer too.. but he was still claiming he was successful in that case).

  • @harryshriver6223
    @harryshriver6223 11 місяців тому +1072

    The scary thing is there was a case just like this in Missouri, except it wasn't murder. A woman was impregnated by one of two identical twins she was having sexual relations with at the same time. So the question was, who's my daddy, and who is my uncle? Since the DNA is identical, there was no way to determine responsibility for child support. The state decided to charge them both child support! 😂😅

    • @nm0852
      @nm0852 11 місяців тому +28

      Wow 😮

    • @-MaryPoppins-
      @-MaryPoppins- 11 місяців тому +92

      LMFAO THATS SO AWFUL BUT HILARIOUS 🤧🤣

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому +45

      That’s a pretty reasonable middle ground considering the facts of the case. If I had a twin, I wouldn’t want him being my “eskimo brother.” Weird.

    • @peter_pansexual6243
      @peter_pansexual6243 11 місяців тому +17

      There was a case even more similar where one twin boy was raised as a girl.

    • @animebabe44
      @animebabe44 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@peter_pansexual6243if you're talking about the Dr. Munny case. I'm pretty sure that's the inspiration for this episode

  • @chellechong1
    @chellechong1 11 місяців тому +152

    As an identical twin, this episode's storywriting was lit.

  • @shavonnepayne4749
    @shavonnepayne4749 5 місяців тому +22

    Stabler's "None of that" at the secret convo was such a Dad thing to say

  • @the_supreme_king
    @the_supreme_king 11 місяців тому +219

    This child actor fucking KILLED it in this episode!

  • @WarGrowlmon18
    @WarGrowlmon18 11 місяців тому +229

    It's the same actor in a dual role. Riley McClendon I think. He was in a couple of great Disney Channel Original Movies back in the day.

    • @AngelofAnguish
      @AngelofAnguish 16 днів тому

      In my opinion, THAT being said, THIS story is a "modern version/take" of Psycho-MINUS the shower scene and the death of a P.I.

    • @WarGrowlmon18
      @WarGrowlmon18 15 днів тому

      @AngelofAnguish The what???

  • @bethdumont9020
    @bethdumont9020 11 місяців тому +127

    This is the boy called Brenda story. The experiment of an NZ doctor called Dr. John Money, when that exact same accident happened to a David Reimers.

    • @mollogan
      @mollogan Місяць тому +2

      yes! i was about to say this, we were taught about it in psychology. crazy to think that it actually happened and that people were so okay with using a child as an experiment without their knowledge

  • @WarGrowlmon18
    @WarGrowlmon18 11 місяців тому +344

    This doctor is sick!!!🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

    • @michaelnoble2432
      @michaelnoble2432 11 місяців тому +19

      And based on a real doctor (John Money) who was much, MUCH worse.

  • @shuntley23
    @shuntley23 8 місяців тому +53

    Usually the acting is terrible especially a lot of the young child actors. However, this kid who played the dual roles of the twins was phenomenal!!!

  • @peter_pansexual6243
    @peter_pansexual6243 11 місяців тому +1623

    This case is based on David (Bruce) Reimer and his twin Brian. After a botched circumcisions David (Bruce) was raised as a girl, both ended up taking their own lives.

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому +30

      Both of them did

    • @peter_pansexual6243
      @peter_pansexual6243 11 місяців тому +5

      @@Sniperboy5551 Sorry

    • @mocat1
      @mocat1 11 місяців тому +73

      Both of them? I remember hearing it on the news, when David took his life. I didn’t realise his brother did, too. So unbelievably tragic. 😔

    • @fafster6439
      @fafster6439 11 місяців тому +70

      So sad that David did at 38. Just saw a video and it looked he was doing so well after finding out he was a boy. Got married and all, but looks like life took a toll on him at the end. Such a sad story

    • @captaindestruction9332
      @captaindestruction9332 11 місяців тому +60

      @@fafster6439I think its the scars of your family lying to you for years, struggling with faith(he always felt conflicted because he liked females while he was told he was a Female) on top of the sensationalism of the media/extra attention over something so tragic. Has to make you feel so alone.

  • @notdan4631
    @notdan4631 11 місяців тому +684

    Man deciding someone's gender before they can even think for themselves is kinda fucked up

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому

      That’s what Dr. John Money did. He was evil, but he’s respected by the LGBTQ community.

    • @fafster6439
      @fafster6439 11 місяців тому +11

      ​@@Sniperboy5551I was wondering what their take would be on this given that his experiment flopped

    • @cdmp777
      @cdmp777 11 місяців тому +12

      It’s giving Mocklan energy from the show the orville

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому +26

      @fafster6439 I guess my original comment got deleted. This episode was from back when people still had common sense.

    • @peter_pansexual6243
      @peter_pansexual6243 11 місяців тому +15

      Yeah, kinda like it's a lot more complicated than that. That's why we also have people who are intersex.

  • @francostevo9939
    @francostevo9939 11 місяців тому +181

    I remember this episode. I feel so sorry for the poor child.

    • @renaldsunset
      @renaldsunset 11 місяців тому

      It’s now happening all over America with consent of the government and judiciary system. AND they’re forcing people to feed into the delusion of the sick person

    • @gamingandrewbro8815
      @gamingandrewbro8815 2 місяці тому

      What episode

    • @francostevo9939
      @francostevo9939 2 місяці тому

      @ this episode

  • @leeammorris1268
    @leeammorris1268 11 місяців тому +100

    This episode was so crazy and awesome!!! Only SVU can have so many plot twists in a single episode. And the boy who played the twins was amazing!!! Sucks that Liv's old friend lost her medical license though.

    • @fafster6439
      @fafster6439 11 місяців тому +5

      For revealing? Looked like she really overstepped

    • @leeammorris1268
      @leeammorris1268 11 місяців тому +18

      @@fafster6439 Yeah. I agree 100%. That's how you know that she never really let go of being a cop.
      She did exactly what Olivia would've done. Interfering without caring about the consequences.
      Honestly, I kinda respect that.

    • @NourKLI
      @NourKLI 4 місяці тому +2

      @@fafster6439She took a oath and she stayed true to that. She has put the patient before the rules and laws. Maybe surprises you but sometimes the law and rules come after a human being.

  • @hawarmusse8137
    @hawarmusse8137 11 місяців тому +250

    The Doctor and Parents should’ve been arrested

    • @renaldsunset
      @renaldsunset 11 місяців тому +8

      Exactly ! Like wtf

    • @chloebradly742
      @chloebradly742 10 місяців тому +9

      I wish me and my brother had a secret language as kids all the time people thought we were twins but my brother is 1 year older then me

    • @Avatarconner
      @Avatarconner 9 місяців тому +2

      I mean what exactly do you charge them with?

    • @BackyardRebel
      @BackyardRebel 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Avatarconner Fraud? Abuse?

    • @SomiaDz
      @SomiaDz 8 місяців тому +18

      I don't think the parents deserve to be punished. They trusted the doctor and thought they were doing what's best for their kid. It's 100% that psychopathic selfish doctor's fault for using these poor kids as guinea pigs for his ridiculous experiment. Even the real life twins don't blame their parents.

  • @hannesmayer3716
    @hannesmayer3716 11 місяців тому +212

    And all that because of a circumcision that wasn't necessary in the first place...

    • @FlixCreEightR
      @FlixCreEightR 11 місяців тому +6

      Its gross not to have it done.

    • @Ripplistic
      @Ripplistic 11 місяців тому +35

      ⁠@@FlixCreEightRWhy do you need to be circumcised

    • @Renegade2786
      @Renegade2786 11 місяців тому +19

      Funny how performing circumcisions on a male babies is okay, but doing it to female teens or doing s3x reassignment surgery on a child (which isn't allowed) is very bad.

    • @sapphireseptember
      @sapphireseptember 11 місяців тому

      It's not gross to not be circumcised you complete wet wipe. What is gross is mutilating a baby. Most of the world doesn't bother with it, unless for religious reasons (although it's still wrong in those cases.) The reason it's so widespread in the USA is some religious loon thought that it (incorrectly) would stop boys playing with themselves.

    • @thatgermanicguy
      @thatgermanicguy 11 місяців тому

      ⁠@@FlixCreEightRyour fucked in the head

  • @12thDecember
    @12thDecember 10 місяців тому +137

    The altered twin would eventually become sexually active and probably be attracted to girls, causing a whole different set of problems with her ignorant parents. We are who we are, and as Luke said, "I always knew something wasn't right." That twin didn't _feel_ like she was a girl, because she wasn't.

  • @hollywoodseries6929
    @hollywoodseries6929 11 місяців тому +34

    This was the very firsf episode of SVU I watched, I am hooked with the show since then. Even watched from Season 1 to current season.

  • @lelaloreanachehade7590
    @lelaloreanachehade7590 11 місяців тому +69

    one of the best episodes of the whole franchise! heartbreaking but somehow justice prevailed at the end.

    • @Kayzi19
      @Kayzi19 11 місяців тому +1

      💯%!!

    • @UmaSings
      @UmaSings 9 місяців тому

      Can you tell me what happened? I cant find the ending anywhere!

    • @suzettes.3904
      @suzettes.3904 16 днів тому

      ⁠@@UmaSingsthe ending is what you see on the screen. They committed the perfect crime. They can’t prove which one did it because they are identical twins. The episode ends with their heads on the wall, feeling for each other

  • @MrManga51
    @MrManga51 11 місяців тому +88

    Yeesh. I remember this. This is beyond messed up. Freud would’ve had a field day with this.

    • @cloudcampos4555
      @cloudcampos4555 11 місяців тому +5

      To be fair he was cray cray himself 😂😂

  • @ebbyoflondon8365
    @ebbyoflondon8365 11 місяців тому +65

    This is based on the Dr John Money / Reimer twins case. He was a horrible, evil man.

  • @RobertPagano226
    @RobertPagano226 9 місяців тому +13

    This episode was monumental in so many ways. The constant twists and turns blew me away. In the end, the twins stay united!

  • @classyboy04
    @classyboy04 11 місяців тому +43

    That young kid is a good actor

  • @DisneyFanatic2364
    @DisneyFanatic2364 7 місяців тому +54

    The fact that this happens with intersex children, who are BORN wit both male and female parts, and the parents choose their gender for them and lie to them all their lives...
    And for what? For them to have psychological and physiological trauma? Is that really worth people seeing them as a boy or girl?

    • @NourKLI
      @NourKLI 4 місяці тому +3

      Sometimes it’s medically necessary to make a choice at birth already. Not in this case but a lot of other cases it’s a matter of life and death.

    • @el5001
      @el5001 12 днів тому

      ​@NourKLI and tell me what danger ambiguous genitalia has on a person? Sure, they might need to fix your urethra but that doesn't mean you have to alter all of the parts

  • @ajnorth4393
    @ajnorth4393 11 місяців тому +18

    The way she hits Stabler really hard WOW

  • @aplit
    @aplit 4 місяці тому +9

    Parents like this are messed up. They think they're doing what's best for their child but really they're doing MAJOR damage to them.

    • @el5001
      @el5001 12 днів тому

      They do this to intersex kiss

  • @o.m9514
    @o.m9514 11 місяців тому +25

    They kept treating them like criminials, of course they are going to be defensive.

  • @Luke-yd7zi
    @Luke-yd7zi 9 місяців тому +17

    The saddest part of this is that it’s based on real people

  • @rtcrump0079
    @rtcrump0079 11 місяців тому +12

    This is one of those episodes that hit you hardest on you with all the problems that led to unnecessary suffering. Just like in real life.

  • @dailycarolina.
    @dailycarolina. 11 місяців тому +47

    I've always thought the doctor (Blair) who knew and concealed the truth is the one who should have had his license revoked not the doctor (Hendricks) who told the truth. On the other hand, (9:35) Twins do share identical DNA but they don't have the same fingerprints, couldn't the forensic team just find out if one of the siblings left his fingerprints on the crime scene? is the latter a plot hole?

    • @davidthaler7018
      @davidthaler7018 11 місяців тому +14

      According to the video, there were no fingerprints.

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому +12

      No fingerprints, just DNA. Plenty of room for reasonable doubt.

  • @proudtobeautistic
    @proudtobeautistic 11 місяців тому +5

    One of my favorite episodes, I remember thinking that if this were real life they'd be the first people in history to pull off the perfect crime.

  • @captaindestruction9332
    @captaindestruction9332 11 місяців тому +31

    Sad that this is based off of a true story(not the murder part). Happened at a time when certain surgery was easier than others. I also think it was pushed on the parents as a research thing. I think the Doctors and others had a interest in seeing if a twins gender was switched at birth if it would effect their development. Sad because the twin that was made to believe they were female struggled for years trying to understand why they liked Females etc. and the parents lied to them/led them on. Truly shameful.

    • @dietotaku
      @dietotaku 11 місяців тому

      john money. it's sad that so many in the comments misunderstood what his crimes were and what lesson to apply to the outcomes. john money believed that gender identity was a result of upbringing, and when the parents of twin boys were referred to him after one twin's circumcision was botched, he had the perfect guinea pigs to test his theory (twin studies are the gold standard in all forms of psych & medical research because every variable is identical). so he convinced the parents to let him surgically alter their son and raise him as a girl instead. but because gender identity is an innate and unchangeable quality, the poor kid grew up always feeling "off," not unlike how trans kids describe their first inklings that they're trans. so john money was completely backwards wrong about gender identity but too many take that to mean gender identity doesn't exist and trans kids have been taught to be trans.

  • @tinachandler3091
    @tinachandler3091 9 місяців тому +12

    My twin and I were like that. At school, I was in the art room and fell off the stool and hurt my back my sister fell to the floor screaming in pain . We knew when each others children were born and I felt her death when she was killed in a car accident in 2018. I feel like a live walking dead woman. Nothing is real around me. Nothing

    • @jenniferclark9842
      @jenniferclark9842 Місяць тому +1

      I'm sorry for your loss 😢

    • @tinachandler3091
      @tinachandler3091 19 днів тому

      @ thank yiu

    • @tink9727
      @tink9727 18 днів тому +2

      My dads a twin and when my aunt gave birth he had really bad cramps motion sickness he would call her and yup she was pregnant every single time even before she knew

  • @tmat90-o8t
    @tmat90-o8t 10 місяців тому +12

    Man! This episode was a mind bender. Whoever wrote this one was in their bag for sure. The writer deserved a big raise in pay!

    • @1talldaddy
      @1talldaddy 9 місяців тому +3

      yeah this episode had so many plot twist, and when you thought it couldn't get any crazy we find out find out what happened to them as babies.

    • @Celephinn
      @Celephinn 20 днів тому

      This story was based on John Money’s experiments.
      He tried to prove that gender identity was “nurture rather than nature” but his experiment proved him wrong.
      Gender identity is innate, just like sexual orientation.
      You can’t change someone’s gender identity or sexuality; religious people keep trying but it doesn’t work.

  • @usedtobemyself
    @usedtobemyself 10 місяців тому +11

    This is such a serious topic but their secret language cracked me up bad

  • @jonathanmyers2867
    @jonathanmyers2867 11 місяців тому +83

    We definitely want Stabler back on SVU than Organized Crime.

    • @mchllwoods
      @mchllwoods 11 місяців тому +8

      As far as I'm concerned, Stabler was meant for OC. Hopefully he stays until he retires.

    • @slowazzd2165
      @slowazzd2165 11 місяців тому +1

      Stabler sucks

    • @AndrewBarsky
      @AndrewBarsky 11 місяців тому +3

      @@slowazzd2165benson is worse

    • @dr.temperancebrennan
      @dr.temperancebrennan 8 місяців тому +1

      @@AndrewBarskybarsky is worse though

  • @fish_and-chips
    @fish_and-chips 11 місяців тому +24

    Kind of reminds me of the John Money case, sadly I don’t think he got arrested or even convicted. And the twins both killed themselves.

    • @dietotaku
      @dietotaku 11 місяців тому +10

      it was literally based on that case. every law & order episode is based on a real case.

  • @tacticallemon7518
    @tacticallemon7518 8 місяців тому +6

    never thought about how dna testing would be moot on an identical twin

  • @Jimmersaunt
    @Jimmersaunt 11 місяців тому +11

    I felt so sorry for Luke-he was a victim from the beginning.

  • @bbranch123
    @bbranch123 8 місяців тому +6

    This is a legendary episode. I'll never forget it.

  • @DravenGal
    @DravenGal 11 місяців тому +10

    Aside from the murder, I remember reading news article on this. This really happened. I knew the story before I saw the episode.

  • @elelynnis
    @elelynnis 11 місяців тому +3

    THIS STORTLINE HAS ALWAYS STAYED IN MY HEAD FOR YEARS AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS CSI OR COLD CASE! DO YOU KNOW HOW HAPPY I AM TO FINALLY FIND OUT WHAT SHOW ITS FROM!!

  • @smashley4661
    @smashley4661 11 місяців тому +25

    This episode is so much more relevant today than when it originally aired.

    • @ferretman6790
      @ferretman6790 Місяць тому +1

      You speak truth

    • @el5001
      @el5001 12 днів тому

      You mean intersex kids? Yeah, you're right

  • @tdotwitz
    @tdotwitz 9 місяців тому +16

    This episode was ahead of its time

  • @julesmasseffectmusic
    @julesmasseffectmusic 11 місяців тому +12

    Only ever seen this episode once, probably one of the top 10 I think of it you ask me about the show.
    It was out there

  • @Erald06
    @Erald06 8 місяців тому +3

    Novak was like 'I ain't getting involved with this madness. Answer her/him, doc'

  • @ayameisastar
    @ayameisastar 11 місяців тому +52

    I think you’d be able to just charge them both in a joint trial. They conspired to kill the doctor, that’s 1st degree murder regardless of if you held the weapon

    • @jimeno726
      @jimeno726 11 місяців тому +21

      they couldn't prove they planned it together. Then each took the blame and said the other had nothing to do with it.

    • @rafaelsantos-nl9jd
      @rafaelsantos-nl9jd 11 місяців тому +23

      the thing is, they have no way to prove conspiracy or co-planing.
      The twis can just say "i am the innocent one, my brother leave during the movie, i have nothing to do with the murder"
      The police has no way to say "they are lieying, they help each other", they need evidence that confirm both twins are on it and working together

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому +1

      There was a bank heist in Germany and the only real evidence they had was DNA from a glove. The guy had a twin so they were both acquitted. “Reasonable doubt” and all.

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому +7

      Reasonable doubt

    • @minimutt1408
      @minimutt1408 11 місяців тому +10

      Nope. Innocent until proven guilty. Can't prove guilt then both are innocent

  • @RedLeif1
    @RedLeif1 11 місяців тому +144

    Going to keep this PG.
    This doctor is based on John Money, the father of gender identity. Money purposely botched the circumcision of one of two twins, and then insisted that the botched one should be raised as a girl, with his balls being chopped off as well. Money spent years in contact with the two boys, as their doctor, with the expectation that the botched one would become a legitimate girl.
    At some point the botched one learned of what happened, and immediately rejected being a girl, going back to being a boy, even having artificial genitals surgically installed. Unfortunately the psychological harm done to him had done too much damage. He developed schizophrenia, and overdosed on anti-depressants. Years later his brother would shoot himself after living with his own issues.
    John Money viewed this sick experiment as a success, and declared that gender can be taught.

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому +49

      It wasn’t Money who performed the circumcision, the parents brought him to Money after a different doctor botched it. He saw an opportunity to prove his theory, so he took it.

    • @RedLeif1
      @RedLeif1 11 місяців тому +29

      @@Sniperboy5551 I always thought he did it himself. Thanks for the correction. Still, Money was a sick man to say the absolute least.

    • @skyofthelivingdead
      @skyofthelivingdead 11 місяців тому +15

      Yep. This is literally how gender ideology started.

    • @dietotaku
      @dietotaku 11 місяців тому +34

      @@skyofthelivingdead except you'll note that he said the exact opposite of what we now know to be true - you can't train a kid to have a different gender identity, they are who they are from birth and that INCLUDES trans kids.

    • @KomoliRihyoh
      @KomoliRihyoh 11 місяців тому

      @@skyofthelivingdead Money tried to prove the *opposite* of what "gender ideology" preaches, specifically that gender *can't* be forced. Money's experiment failed because he tried to make a boy think he was a girl in the exact same was parents today send kids to conversion therapy to make them stop being trans.

  • @StealthFB22
    @StealthFB22 8 місяців тому +5

    Is anyone else binge watching these episode snippets 😅

  • @island_girl_shan
    @island_girl_shan 6 місяців тому +2

    I remember this episode. I was so young that I thought they were much older. When I first saw the brother in this clip, I thought this couldn't be _that_ episode caused he looks so young. This adds another layer to it.
    I don't think I really understood what was going on but I knew what happened wasn't right

  • @queenelizabee7246
    @queenelizabee7246 Місяць тому +2

    Twins were valid.
    I went thru a slightly similar story after having my son, doctors were adamantly pushing circumcision. Their reasoning being less bacteria, so I asked “is that was medical mutilation? Can u share why it’s necessary” the only answer provided my baby won’t remember the pain. That didn’t answer, it wouldn’t have life changing effects on my child’s esteem. I ended up asking 4 different doctors over the course of 6 months and they all refused to answer my questions directly. So i decided I’d js teach my son to wash under his area thoroughly. I understand they might not have answered their opinions so it wouldn’t backfire on the hospital but as a mom, I have to carry the burden of an uncomfortable shower or two, rather than justifying chopping my babies area off.

  • @FortuitusVideo
    @FortuitusVideo 8 місяців тому +5

    No one has really reckoned with the damage and hurt caused by Blank Slate Theory throughout history.

  • @kitfranzman4860
    @kitfranzman4860 8 місяців тому +3

    Psychiatrists and Doctors many times become Drs in order to figure out what is wrong with themselves

  • @RandomBurner
    @RandomBurner 11 місяців тому +34

    This episode is still “scary” especially the ending, the thumbnail

    • @personaldove
      @personaldove 11 місяців тому +3

      It was honestly meant for the X Files than Law and Order.

    • @faryalhaque8532
      @faryalhaque8532 11 місяців тому

      How did this episode end?

    • @martakavaliauskaite4566
      @martakavaliauskaite4566 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@faryaalhanot police couldnt do anything they didnt cnow who did it it was such tragic and heartbreaking episode and horror part is lossely based on real case in new yourk the twins in that case commited suicide

  • @FabricioMTL
    @FabricioMTL 5 місяців тому +1

    This is one of those chocking episodes that made me cry that I can’t forget

  • @Kaitlynn502Kentucky
    @Kaitlynn502Kentucky 11 місяців тому +22

    Well this was a wild one 😢😢

  • @angelh1743
    @angelh1743 11 місяців тому +8

    Another amazing episode.

  • @jediclonekag13
    @jediclonekag13 11 місяців тому +11

    Honestly, this was a weird episode, but I still felt sorry for the twins.

  • @carlospthedon
    @carlospthedon Місяць тому +1

    This is one of the top svu episode I watch when I used to binge watch that show on USA network. They would have it on all day on a Thursday if I remember correctly lol

  • @mikhalaa746
    @mikhalaa746 11 місяців тому +9

    This episode was so memorable. They did such a great job

  • @naschellep
    @naschellep 11 місяців тому +8

    Is this based on Dr Money? The real case is unbelievable! And both boys ended up k****** themselves 💔

  • @godleymawanda4415
    @godleymawanda4415 5 місяців тому +3

    Season 6 was built differently

  • @sargentshadow
    @sargentshadow 11 місяців тому +6

    So when the cops were interrogating the two children, where were their parents/lawyer?

  • @MarvelDCFan4004
    @MarvelDCFan4004 2 місяці тому +1

    The poor twin didn’t even choose to become a girl and the sick doctor made him become one and lied about it.

  • @fafster6439
    @fafster6439 11 місяців тому +14

    Crazy case. But with so much evidence and DNA, the DA should be able to do something. Conspiracy or something

    • @andrewli6606
      @andrewli6606 11 місяців тому +2

      Probably not. Either twin can easily say that their other twin just happened to wear similar clothing and they decided to go to a movie together.

    • @fafster6439
      @fafster6439 11 місяців тому

      @@andrewli6606 yea but with their DNA there and the video too. They could just charge the one with more motive tbh and see how that goes

    • @rafaelsantos-nl9jd
      @rafaelsantos-nl9jd 11 місяців тому

      @@fafster6439 and the twins could just sabotage each other trial, creaing the 50% chance of sending the worng one to prison.
      in short terms the DA have no way to prove who did it. The judge who take the case will know that they are taking a case that is basically a coin flip, and lack definitive evidence. any Jury will need to take the decision knowing they can send the wrong person to prison,

    • @rafaelsantos-nl9jd
      @rafaelsantos-nl9jd 11 місяців тому +6

      @@fafster6439 can you imagine the Judge face?
      Judge: so are you sure this person is the killer
      DA: 50% sure.

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому +6

      Reasonable doubt. You can’t convict both of them.

  • @redmondpeters6221
    @redmondpeters6221 11 місяців тому +4

    This episode was quite confusing and disturbing. At the end of it all you couldn't tell who is who.

  • @ladyweasellou3367
    @ladyweasellou3367 11 місяців тому +3

    The start of this.
    Everybody over here! We need more people to touch the evidence.

  • @Okoicha90
    @Okoicha90 11 місяців тому +38

    This case is based on a true story.....did not end well😢

    • @hoshimaruhajime7933
      @hoshimaruhajime7933 11 місяців тому +2

      What was the real case

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 11 місяців тому +15

      @hoshimaruhajime7933 The Reimer twins, except they ended themselves instead of someone else.

  • @Hello-b9c
    @Hello-b9c 2 місяці тому +1

    I had seen the true story about the twin boys. But the real story and it was truly heartbreaking too. There name was Bruce and Brian, may they both RIP 🙏🏼🕊️🙏🏼🕊️🙏🏼

  • @yureiNekoX
    @yureiNekoX 11 місяців тому +4

    neat little factoid, we can now tell the difference between twins through dna.

  • @amygatt2933
    @amygatt2933 11 місяців тому +5

    Brilliant episode

  • @BazukinBelyugovich
    @BazukinBelyugovich 11 місяців тому +16

    Obviously the "big issue" talked about here was the forced gender-change... but what probably shocks me more is the customary circumcision. Why is it customary in America? It isn't based on religion, like in Jewish, Muslim, or Ethiopian communities. They just do it willy-nilly (pun not intended), even though almost no other western countries do it at birth. If they didn't circumcise Lindsey/Luke, none of this would have happened. WHY DO THEY CIRCUMCISE CHILDREN???

    • @joestraw8870
      @joestraw8870 11 місяців тому +8

      It’s nonconsensual and invasive. It should be outlawed on anyone under 16.

    • @threestrikesmarxman9095
      @threestrikesmarxman9095 11 місяців тому

      At least in America, I think it's because John Kellogg (of the cereal fame) said that circumcision would prevent boys from masturbating, so it became fairly customary for American families to get their sons circumcised. Then when masturbating stopped being the reason, they kept doing it because it was basically cultural. More than three-quarters of all American males are circumcised.
      Funnily enough, South Korea has similar circumcision rates as America. It could be the American influence on them.

    • @68404
      @68404 11 місяців тому +3

      It was a product of its time. In Australia it is rarely performed these days (outside of religious dogma).
      I am a Gen X guy and it was pretty much done on all of us when we were babies. Yes, I wish the choice had been left to me but it is what it is.

    • @zyrosqrd2552
      @zyrosqrd2552 11 місяців тому +4

      Circumcision is not a "customary" practice in the US, but offered as an option to parent of newborn boy. People have varying opinions, but most males who've been circumcised as infants are fine with their parents' decision, don't feel it was a major trauma. Adult men would only 'choose' circumcision to treat a medical problem, a major surgical procedure likely under general and regional anesthesia with physical trauma from the wound, severe pain and slower healing performed on an adult. For healthy baby boy having circ performed by qualified professional, whether or not for religious reasons, is generally not a problem for guys when they grow up and live as adults (and no extra cleaning needed). The likelihood of complications from circumcision is much less than the likelihood of a penile problem for men with foreskin (e.g. infection, phimosis, injury). Most uncirc'd dudes dont have major problems if they know how to take proper care of their member (and if they don't develop diabetes, get STD's, or become morbidly obese, which would increase risk of a complication from having foreskin).

    • @EvanPilb
      @EvanPilb 11 місяців тому +6

      @@zyrosqrd2552 In many European countries, as well as in China, Australia, and most First World nations, only about 2% of adult males require genital surgery, indicating that 98% remain healthy from birth to adulthood without circumcision. Despite this trend, the United States continues to support routine infant circumcision, often citing the argument that it's more complicated to perform as an adult. However, recent studies from China, Australia, and New Zealand have refuted this claim, demonstrating that surgery on newborns creates a higher rate of botched procedures compared to adult procedures and poses a greater risk of complications such as infection and urinary tract infections due to the nature of an early unsealed urethra.
      With this argument debunked, there is no valid justification for subjecting the 98% of healthy males to circumcision. Claims suggesting a need for "extra cleaning" are unfounded, as natural newborns require only straightforward care, similar to girls. Superstitions surrounding smegma, a natural bodily secretion that appears in excess due to lack of hygiene, in both boys and girls, have led to misconceptions about genital hygiene, with some mistakenly attributing it to bacteria when it is simply excess oil.
      Furthermore, there are two urological treatments available for the 2% of males who require surgery. For phimosis, studies show that 80% of severe cases can be resolved with topical steroid creams, minimizing the need for surgery. Yeast infections, though not specific to foreskin, can be easily avoided with basic hygiene practices, and most cases resolve on their own.
      In conclusion, subjecting infants to unnecessary circumcision overlooks the fact that most infants grow up without any issues despite the procedure. The practice of performing this surgery on children offers no added benefits compared to adult circumcision and compromises the basic genital functions of healthy males. This widespread practice distorts the reality of when circumcision is required and disregards the straightforward care needed for a healthy, natural newborn. Surgically altering a child's body for perceived benefits, when none exist, is neither justifiable to modern standards nor ethical. The practise should be limited to purely practised in urology, as it has shown effective in.

  • @RobertoChavezM
    @RobertoChavezM 8 місяців тому +2

    This one was one of my favorite episodes.

  • @C98777
    @C98777 6 місяців тому

    SVU IS STILL MY FAVORITE OF ALL THE LAW AND ORDERS

  • @quinnnewman9538
    @quinnnewman9538 6 місяців тому +3

    It should always be a persons choice what gender they wish to present as, not their parents. That kid deserved to live however they wanted to live rather than be forced into a role that did not conform to how they felt on the outside

  • @Sanaa_K_Mohamed
    @Sanaa_K_Mohamed 8 місяців тому +5

    3:44 Poor kid was so confused

  • @deniseshephard3347
    @deniseshephard3347 3 місяці тому +1

    The child actor was excellent the Dr should of lost his license straight away
    This Dr is sick

  • @sarahhejab6596
    @sarahhejab6596 11 місяців тому +6

    Obviously these events originate from real life crimes now which is hinders their theories about how they were made by their parents ego. Based on the facts of the case in the episode

  • @lilamontoya5609
    @lilamontoya5609 11 місяців тому +6

    5:13 what a brave girl ♡

  • @ebayrose
    @ebayrose 11 місяців тому +7

    Should have been smarter about telling the kids by insisting the parents tell the within earshot of the kids and pretending you didn't know they were there would be safer for her career.

  • @JMWRITESTHRILLERS
    @JMWRITESTHRILLERS 11 місяців тому +4

    One of my favorite episodes

  • @NikkiBrewster-z8c
    @NikkiBrewster-z8c 4 дні тому

    Poor innocent little girl 🥺💔

  • @keisharay-owens8841
    @keisharay-owens8841 11 місяців тому +10

    They killed the doctor in self defense!

  • @angelrivera8558
    @angelrivera8558 11 місяців тому +7

    Wow what heck. As a parent I would not let doctors do that to my kids heck no god gave then what they got if they want to change let that from them not any one else

  • @jexelbur6872
    @jexelbur6872 Місяць тому

    Moral of the story: Don’t use a machine to circumcise if there’s a risk of malfunction.
    Oh, and don’t lie to children about who they are.

  • @gabymaynebur
    @gabymaynebur 2 місяці тому

    Lord have mercy. Give these writers a raise.

  • @r.rawrx3
    @r.rawrx3 2 місяці тому +7

    This is why societal expectations are so dangerous, you shouldn’t be forced to be something you’re not.. whether you feel more feminine or masculine, you should be able to express yourself with what makes you comfortable. forcing people into a box isolates that person, Be who you are and be proud.

  • @TamaraInTanzania2
    @TamaraInTanzania2 12 днів тому

    Super sad but awesome episode

  • @tylergnosis2581
    @tylergnosis2581 16 днів тому

    Omg Great episode

  • @kevinhoward9593
    @kevinhoward9593 2 місяці тому +2

    9:51 Reiley McClendon played both characters (according to IMDB).

  • @StarFighters76
    @StarFighters76 11 місяців тому +3

    This episode's plot was weird. I watched it many times in the past and was still confused how it jumped from the 'A' Plot to the 'B' Plot, even though they are connected together, somewhat.

  • @313eve
    @313eve Місяць тому

    The twins speaking in their secret language made me think is this the Sims?

  • @lindseymcdougall9774
    @lindseymcdougall9774 10 місяців тому +6

    There was a case of the botched circumcision decades ago and is probably what that part is based on.
    The videos of the boy who was raised a girl show them almost looking brainwashed as they says things like “I like dolls”, “I am a girl”. The videos were done for the “experiment” rather than a documentary (but were used later in one). When they found out what happened they said they knew something wasn’t right as he’d always felt male and that the girly things that he was given didn’t feel right. He also went on to identify as a boy and had surgery. I don’t know how successful it was.
    I’m glad to say (at least in the uk where my knowledge base comes from), that wouldn’t happen now due to current practice and agreements across the country. And advances in surgery too

    • @maximilianschmid9890
      @maximilianschmid9890 6 місяців тому +1

      "...'botschrd
      (primatojd hjvvman pieneil)
      circvmcision
      (de la reddandantlj phraeszd ancansenntedd innfanteil farm)'
      issz a reddandant trm/phraesz."

  • @CleverQueenBeeYT
    @CleverQueenBeeYT 11 місяців тому +2

    This is one of favorite epsiodes

  • @nnnnom
    @nnnnom Місяць тому

    after readinf some comments i found out that this is based on a true story/case about the Reimer twins. The poor boys went through so much especially David who was the one forced to be a girl. David passed away now...