SimCity 2013 Revisited - Is It Any Better Now?

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  • After a year of patches and the Cities of Tomorrow expansion pack, is SimCity 2013 awesome or is it too little too late? Covers the offline patch, expansion, DLC, updates, etc.
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  • @GGBeyond
    @GGBeyond 10 років тому +439

    The thing that rubs me the wrong way is that they outright lied that an offline mode was not possible. They say they offload a significant amount of the calculations to the servers to simulate the individual sims, yet it's playable for 20 minutes after you lose your connection. Turns out the servers never actually did any calculations for the game; they're just regular servers passing along messages in a typical client-server model so that you can have the chat and the leaderboards. Now this not-so-possible offline mode is coming soon, and I get the feeling they're just dragging their feet in releasing it because, well, the game technically runs offline.

    • @RivalBro
      @RivalBro 7 років тому +41

      I pirated the game and played it without a connection at all. Cities Skylines is much better and after pirating that, actually bought it, worth the money.

    • @HissinSpit
      @HissinSpit 7 років тому +15

      Skylines is infinitely better. I love that game! Speaking of which, EA apparently learned a lesson with Sim City because, as lacking as it is, The Sims 4 was originally supposed to be always online too, but since Sim City did terribly, they changed the idea last minute. This is supposedly why TS4 is bare bones because it had to be reworked. Don't quote me on that info, though, because it's only something I remember reading a few years back on the Sims forums. But if it is indeed true, it'd be great to get competition for their other games like The Sims.

    • @LordProteus
      @LordProteus 6 років тому +5

      It's common practice for companies to "justify" anything they do with lies. They refuse to look like they are wrong.
      For example, for the World of Warcraft expansion Cataclysm, they said they scrapped one of the dungeons "The Abyssal Maw" because they said that underwater combat wasn't fun, but the actual reason was because of time and resource constraints.

    • @edcellwarrior
      @edcellwarrior 4 роки тому +5

      Game developers do that a lot, and it's a shame people fall for it so much. 99.9% of the time "it's impossible" means "it's totally possible but we're lazy and/or think we'll make more money if you don't have that feature".

    • @nichsa8984
      @nichsa8984 3 роки тому

      @@RivalBro no ways simcity cities of tomorrow will get sick of depression futuristic

  • @420alphaomega
    @420alphaomega 10 років тому +410

    -"Offline mode will never be possible"-
    "Offline mode next patch!"
    oh EA, will you never learn?

    • @MrJoeyWheeler
      @MrJoeyWheeler 10 років тому +33

      I'd say SimCity dragged EA's reputation through the mud but that would imply they had a good reputation beyond the Sims and sports games before.

    • @daviddragoon82
      @daviddragoon82 10 років тому +21

      EA has been behind the death of alot of franchises that mattered to me.
      So I guess its no surprise that they still pull stuff like this...
      Kain Lives!

    • @LordofFullmetal
      @LordofFullmetal 6 років тому +24

      I know this is a really old comment - but apparently not! They did the exact same thing with the Sims 4.
      "We can't have toddlers/pools because the game won't run".
      Customers: But they've been in the series since the second and first games, respectively. If you could do it then, why can't you now?
      EA: ..........
      "Toddlers and pools for FREE"

    • @jeromealday614
      @jeromealday614 4 роки тому +1

      @@LordofFullmetal I know this is an old comment. But idc if took long. Because Toddlers are amazing. 😫👌

    • @daisymae3717
      @daisymae3717 4 роки тому +5

      I'm just glad they learned from this and didn't use such aggressive DRM and online only for the sims 4. I also didn't play the sims 4 untill 2018 when it went on sale for $5.

  • @slippinjimmy5683
    @slippinjimmy5683 4 роки тому +181

    "This is unscripted" and then he proceeds to perfectly sum up the strengths and weaknesses of the game without rambling on about some insignificant thing for twenty minutes. That's impressive.

    • @copyer9088
      @copyer9088 Місяць тому

      Well he’s being doing it for a while so that makes sense

  • @Lomaxxx53
    @Lomaxxx53 10 років тому +468

    For being unscripted, you have a lot of vocabulary and a lot to talk about. And I like that. Great video.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  10 років тому +111

      Thank you very much!

    • @getamber2671
      @getamber2671 7 років тому +8

      Reckless39 Lol, he said that at the very beginning of the video. Like, the first sentence I think.

    • @clutteredpictures7421
      @clutteredpictures7421 7 років тому +3

      Lazy Game Reviews welcome

    • @daisymae3717
      @daisymae3717 4 роки тому +15

      I second that, if UA-cam ever dies I think LGR has a really good radio voice.

  • @ZM7241994
    @ZM7241994 8 років тому +743

    Only an EA game would add the ability to save locally a full year after release. Is their CEO that disconnected from average gamers?

    • @james64468
      @james64468 8 років тому +78

      +Zach Myers The old Ceo was very disconnected. HE was trying to do mobile only. EA almost went under because of that.

    • @ZM7241994
      @ZM7241994 8 років тому +51

      I doubt the new CEO is any different. He/she will just be more secretive about their greediness.

    • @james64468
      @james64468 8 років тому +8

      +Zach Myers His motto is Players first. I still feel sad that they closed Maxis. If that old Ceo would have allowed communication. Maybe Simcity wouldn't have died.

    • @DracXBelmont
      @DracXBelmont 8 років тому +4

      +Zach Myers Wow, cynicism is strong with you.

    • @ZM7241994
      @ZM7241994 8 років тому +43

      DracXBelmont True, but with EA I'd call it common sense. Everything EA touches dies.

  • @Draxis32
    @Draxis32 9 років тому +962

    You revisit games.
    It's an automatic subscription. You've proved that you focus on being trustworthy to your audience, more than reviewing popular themes and abandoning in search of another new subject to speak of.
    How did I missed your channel all these years.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  9 років тому +222

      Don't know, but I'm glad you found it now!
      Thanks :D

    • @scottmitting1671
      @scottmitting1671 8 років тому +22

      +Draxis32 Don't feel too bad, I didn't discover LGR until about 2 weeks ago. My wife even started watching over my shoulder when she got curious why I watched 2 hours straight of some dude at goodwill. I'm almost inspired to start making my own youtube videos, where I review reviewers (that tables have turned!) but haven't committed myself to the idea. LGR and Ross's Game Dungeon have made me a huge fan of this sort of thing.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 8 років тому +5

      +Scott MItting I think reviewing reviewers is a pretty cool idea.

    • @Ropetupa
      @Ropetupa 8 років тому +2

      +Scott MItting Do it!

    • @vallstareater4170
      @vallstareater4170 7 років тому +2

      Draxis32 same here

  • @johnoogler3615
    @johnoogler3615 7 років тому +623

    Dumb question:
    How about now?

    • @LGR
      @LGR  7 років тому +453

      The game has been all but abandoned, last I checked.

    • @m.dcreativestudios8430
      @m.dcreativestudios8430 7 років тому +46

      so sad...

    • @aerohydra3849
      @aerohydra3849 7 років тому +19

      At least now Project Orion works quite well to improve city sizes without too much of a hassle now.

    • @bigmoneyboss7898
      @bigmoneyboss7898 7 років тому +22

      Hey, I was gonna buy cities skylines is it still good/better?

    • @aerohydra3849
      @aerohydra3849 7 років тому +49

      It's still a good game. It has its flaws but in the end it's a good city-builder (and it's supported unlike SC2013)

  • @gguerrero11
    @gguerrero11 8 років тому +94

    My dad who worked for Maxis (before it was dissolved) said that they really tried to make cities bigger. But when they did, their computers couldn't handle it and it would crash.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 8 років тому +69

      +gguerrero11 Which means that the software was ill designed to handle large simulations in the first place. Well, Maxis' failure is someone else's success.

    • @gguerrero11
      @gguerrero11 8 років тому +34

      +kelerews hahah yep you betcha. At least what i got from him was from him working there was a tour of EA and being able to play the Alpha version... if you thought the release was buggy, oh man. I wonder if i still have recordings of it.

    • @stephenweger9680
      @stephenweger9680 8 років тому

      +gguerrero11 Didn't maxis dissolve in like the 90's ;-0

    • @heinrichpreussen
      @heinrichpreussen 7 років тому +9

      That's sad! I wish they would make Maxis create games again.

    • @ragzaugustus
      @ragzaugustus 6 років тому +13

      That was OldMaxis, NuMaxis was dissolved slightly after this failure as released.
      The Sims have had their own studio for years.

  • @MrJDification
    @MrJDification 10 років тому +44

    they should have implemented what Prison Architect put in with one of the recent patches: you can buy additional slots of land around the outside, getting more expensive the larger they are

    • @LGR
      @LGR  10 років тому +31

      Yup, even RollerCoaster Tycoon had this. Freaking A-Train had this.

    • @TC-st9nt
      @TC-st9nt 9 років тому +25

      Cities Skylines has this. :)

    • @nichsa8984
      @nichsa8984 4 роки тому

      @@LGR renamed simpile because ea has many made too much pile

  • @MizterMoonshine
    @MizterMoonshine 10 років тому +86

    The small size of the cities is the only thing stopping me from downloading the game.

  • @wibuwabu
    @wibuwabu 8 років тому +163

    -remove the tiny city limits
    -fix the water and electricity distribution, or just change it to the old simcity style
    Those are the two things i need to feel like this game was worth it.

    • @TomasGomila
      @TomasGomila 7 років тому +10

      You can fix water problems by putting a water pumping station near the sewage treatment plant, the water pumping station drains water from the ground, and the sewage treatment plant brings back water to the floor. That creates a vicious circle, a loop of water (like infinite water).
      The tiny city limits is a problem, but on the other hand you can play cities of tomorrow and try to make the bigger city (with mega towers) without traffic problems, or make a touristic place with casinos and monuments without traffic jams :).

    • @troll4life662
      @troll4life662 2 роки тому

      Cities Skylines: Write that down, write that down!

    • @larrote6467
      @larrote6467 Рік тому

      @@troll4life662 CS doesn't work anymore

    • @troll4life662
      @troll4life662 Рік тому

      @@larrote6467 That's what happens when you cram the entire thing with mods and expect everything to work perfectly.

  • @Feshman117
    @Feshman117 10 років тому +184

    So it took them over a year to fix some of the issues that people were complaining about since day 1? Pathetic.

    • @buckwheat219970
      @buckwheat219970 10 років тому +19

      Same with Diablo 3. The game was essentially in beta until the upcoming release of the first expansion. It's now much better than launch, but there are still no ladders, still no offline mode, still missing features that were present and popular in the previous series installments.

    • @Shiralkian
      @Shiralkian 10 років тому +5

      Considering The sims 3 still has awful bugs from more than 3 years ago and they aren't going to patch anymore, Simcity players can count themselves lucky.

    • @KratostheThird
      @KratostheThird 10 років тому +9

      ShiRa Malk They're just a shit company. Period.

    • @RobloxianUploader
      @RobloxianUploader 10 років тому

      You're an idiot. It took like 5 years to make a game like GTA V. Games of today can take more than 3 years if they are this beautiful. This isn't the 80s, with only isometric views. Now we can see some of our skyscrapers defy logic, and besides; if there are over 200 buildings in a city, and over 500 individual names, plus working with glass box, plus coding and stuff, that'll take more than just 3 months. They've been working on it since the release, so you cannot get angry at them. This is a huge game, and although city sizes disagree, it's true. There's a lot to load up, because there was a lot to put in the game...so really it takes time to take everything that you worked over a year on and redo it and put it into another mode and not just a few months. Things take time.

    • @Feshman117
      @Feshman117 10 років тому +10

      DoubleBrick Gaming Productions The problem is they released a game that wasn't finished

  • @user-sl5zk3vc5p
    @user-sl5zk3vc5p 4 роки тому +15

    After the offline patch and Single player Mode
    This game has become a great time killer for me
    i still play it to this day, all alone, managing all cities in the region, making great works and people happy
    this game is not bad, infact it's awesome if you ignore small maps

  • @tomboi1978
    @tomboi1978 8 років тому +228

    I'm so glad i didn't waste my money. Simcity 4 for another decade I guess.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому +90

      Checked out Cities Skylines?
      ua-cam.com/video/ZJb7C2OE9xM/v-deo.html

    • @JoRosieQueen68
      @JoRosieQueen68 8 років тому +8

      +Lazy Game Reviews I got it cracked and I can easly say this is a great game but the small cities are crap,but the rest is very great,I have every dlc,and I love it more than Cities Skylines which lacks all of those futuristic things.

    • @tomboi1978
      @tomboi1978 8 років тому +10

      +Lazy Game Reviews I haven't. But I'm going to now. Last time I played cities was cities xl. Still in my steam library.

    • @davidko7100
      @davidko7100 8 років тому +7

      +tomboi1978 Then you are in for quite a surprise!

    • @imapie4688
      @imapie4688 8 років тому +4

      +tomboi1978 So how was Cities Skylines?

  • @doriphor
    @doriphor 10 років тому +34

    LGR, another nice video :) I love the frequency, quality and informativity of all the stuff you do, and the subtle and effective humor just make it better. You're definitely one of my favorite UA-camrs :D You deserve more subscribers! Cheers!

    • @LGR
      @LGR  10 років тому +15

      Thank you very much!

  • @antonydandrea
    @antonydandrea 8 років тому +40

    How did they fuck this franchise up so badly? It had so much potential. I actually like the online play as a feature, but they still should have had the offline play with bigger cities. That is my biggest annoyance, the size of the cities. I also think they would have done well if they continued making expansions for it. Add new items etc etc.

    • @shioyoutube9041
      @shioyoutube9041 Рік тому +1

      The size is a strange issue but it seems to just be a tech problem that all of the Agent-based city builders have to solve differently, SC2013 had tiny cities because the engine couldn’t handle anything above a town, Tropico has a maximum population of 2000 by default and has islands as it’s excuse for a smaller map size, and CS has it built in but as a result the traffic engine is simplified and in some ways worse, and it still has limits for roads, nodes, and citizens which you’ll probably hit before you can fill out the map.

  • @IbanBoi99
    @IbanBoi99 9 років тому +304

    Cities skylines is the new simcity!

    • @weareorigin
      @weareorigin 8 років тому +42

      +GeneraL_LOL Cities Skylines is very nice. I paid the full price of $30 and was worth it. Switching laptops and traveling and working....I had trouble getting a stable internet connect but Cities Skylines doesn't require online bullcrap!

    • @gameenthusiast12
      @gameenthusiast12 6 років тому +3

      N-no.

    • @mikestoughestrally326
      @mikestoughestrally326 6 років тому +5

      GeneraL_LOL yet again it’s a lot harder to run on older computers

    • @majamystic256
      @majamystic256 5 років тому +10

      Cities Skylines too laggy to play

    • @gellertgulyas1874
      @gellertgulyas1874 5 років тому +1

      Atleast with have land to use and normal traffic bots

  • @stalinov91
    @stalinov91 10 років тому +55

    Still no agriculture. Cities get their food out of factories or across country drivers I assume.

    • @thecensoriouscritic9358
      @thecensoriouscritic9358 10 років тому +54

      Everybody knows that milk is made in oil wells and that bread comes from casinos... lol

    • @Draxis32
      @Draxis32 9 років тому +8

      Shit, I thought about buying this game but nah.
      It's a disgrace to the uniform pal! Sim City 3000 had literally everything!
      And I thought that the 150 year time progression was spot on!

    • @ocass66
      @ocass66 9 років тому +2

      I feel like agriculture would be a city specialization or great work.

    • @Plankensen
      @Plankensen 7 років тому

      Foodtrucks and ramen packs

    • @tifforo1
      @tifforo1 7 років тому +7

      Getting food from cross country drivers is kind of normal for a city. Still, they had farms in SC4 (they weren't very useful), so I don't know why it would be so hard to put in here. Maybe they were worried that players would use up the very limited space in the cities with something land intensive.

  • @GothMia_
    @GothMia_ 10 років тому +73

    Strange that we would have to wait one year to get a implementation of "offline mode" and "local saves". Something that should have been in the game since day one. This is basic stuff and for me it's too little too late.

  • @imemyself2820
    @imemyself2820 7 років тому +49

    Ah found you again. I like you style, watched your stockpile of videos on the Sims but forgot to subscribe. Done.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  7 років тому +38

      Much appreciated :)

    • @jugostran
      @jugostran 7 років тому +2

      Lazy Game Reviews I also subbed.Plus,simcity has been fixed,but,for me,cities skylines is,as time goes by,breaking,i watched a youtuber that played 3 cities,witch all have gotten currupted.

  • @blesyl67
    @blesyl67 9 років тому +702

    Cities: Skyline , full stop .

    • @TheBossIsHerePL
      @TheBossIsHerePL 9 років тому +49

      Theoretically, after writing full stop there shouldn't be a full stop behind the word full stop.
      Ha, you've made an error.

    • @kirkadurka7152
      @kirkadurka7152 9 років тому +61

      P.A.T. you must be fun at parties

    • @stefanboomkamp43
      @stefanboomkamp43 9 років тому +27

      James Kirka you must be parties at fun

    • @kirkadurka7152
      @kirkadurka7152 9 років тому +22

      MC Phteven must you be fun at parties?

    • @stefanboomkamp43
      @stefanboomkamp43 9 років тому +24

      James Kirka parties you must, fun you shall

  • @JapanForSale
    @JapanForSale 5 років тому +13

    That mega tower tho.
    I really liked SC2013's modular design. Being able to design and control the function and form of individual buildings is something I never knew I needed. The design aesthetics was also very pleasing.
    Honestly, SC is like a really pretty girl with some really deep seated' disturbing issues. At first glance you're awed by how perfect it looks, but as soon as you get closer and things start coming out of her mouth, your flight instinct kicks off.
    CS, on the other hand, is the relatively competent one who is inexplicably just hard to look at directly. The whole color scheme is disjointed, the UI is eye stabbingly ugly, it brings really nothing new or exciting to the table, but damn if it's not "the best" in these scarce and bleak times.

  • @ifesbobthekillerpolarbear2013
    @ifesbobthekillerpolarbear2013 4 роки тому +4

    I used to play a lot of simcity and because it's the only simcity game I've ever played I wasn't that bothered by missing features from the other games at the time, though I do remember the limited size being frustrating. I don't know if I ever actually had enough patience to get to a great work, but I remember loving the towers in Cities of Tomorrow. Really great review.

  • @Magmaster13
    @Magmaster13 10 років тому +19

    One year ago EA didn't release a finished game they released a fucking beta, they didn't expect us to enjoy it they just wanted your money as soon as possible.

  • @bcyrx
    @bcyrx 9 років тому +76

    They ruined the series. Sim City 4 + Rush Hour was so close to perfect, just go out and buy that. Seriously. A ten year old game is far far better then a brand new version of it.

    • @weareorigin
      @weareorigin 8 років тому +10

      +MrSmapdi I played Sim City 4 Rush Hour every year since it came out. Only switched to Cities Skylines, which is thankfully how a city building game should be.

    • @nilsdendekker1300
      @nilsdendekker1300 6 років тому

      MrSmapdi thats the same With EMERGENCY 4 and 5. 4 is like 10 years old but beter that 5

    • @raymondgabriel5724
      @raymondgabriel5724 4 роки тому +1

      I never got Sim City 4 to run properly. Very jerky and quite unusable.

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 3 роки тому +1

      I’ve never played SimCity, I just started with Skylines and I can barely believe how garbage this game is.

    • @nova423
      @nova423 3 роки тому +1

      So many fond memories of Sim City 4 and Rush Hour expansion in college in 2003 and 2004. This 2013 Sim City game was garbage.

  • @BastetFurry
    @BastetFurry 10 років тому +33

    Ill continue playing SC2k. ¬.¬

    • @LGR
      @LGR  10 років тому +32

      You and me both.

    • @JasonVaysberg
      @JasonVaysberg 10 років тому +6

      I prefer SimCity 4 with NAM and other mods. :) That's my favorite I think.

    • @ocass66
      @ocass66 9 років тому +1

      I liked SC3KUnlimited.

  • @mocthezuma
    @mocthezuma 10 років тому +9

    "What decade am I in? I don't even know."
    Seems like the appropriate conclusion to a review of this game.

  • @HoboTango
    @HoboTango 7 років тому +151

    One word : Cities Skyline.

  • @alaeriia01
    @alaeriia01 7 років тому +62

    In short: NO
    In long: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @Erakius323
      @Erakius323 7 років тому

      Alex Snitzer You watch Yahtzee to?

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 7 років тому +1

      Master Erakius Who doesn't watch Yahtzee?

    • @getamber2671
      @getamber2671 7 років тому +2

      Alex Snitzer I don't.

    • @voxelbugged
      @voxelbugged 4 роки тому

      In medium: NOOOOO

  • @snetmotnosrorb3946
    @snetmotnosrorb3946 8 років тому +22

    Well, that's nice...
    Anyone remember how the developers talked deep and grand about how you should manage resources and make the city sustainable?
    And how they after release talked about how it couldn't be run offline because of calculations made in the cloud?
    So much BS.
    Let's just accept that SimCity is dead. I have, and life is wonderful. The spirit lives on in Cities: Skylines.

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, Cities: Skylines seems more SimCity than SimCity 2013.

  • @daniellegruber9156
    @daniellegruber9156 10 років тому

    All of your reviews are so fun and interesting to watch; not to mention educational. Thank you so much for providing such in-depth looks into so many games, systems, etc.!

  • @KathyClousegems
    @KathyClousegems 8 років тому

    I have gone through all your Sims3 reviews and you are so honest, fun to listen to, knowledgeable, thanks for doing this. I am addicted to Sims, glad it is here! Glad you are too...

  • @darkmage07070777
    @darkmage07070777 10 років тому +8

    Regarding city sizes: seriously, Maxis, look at Sim City 2K Network! In there, you had to purchase each section of land you wanted to develop on in a first-come-first-serve deal. It allowed the entire land mass to be developed and for your city to grow large, while also still forcing you to cooperate and negotiate with your neighbors for resources and services so you can all grow to maximum potential. Why can't you implement something similar here?

  • @ptwob
    @ptwob 8 років тому +11

    I like your voice, and your taste in games mister, you got yourself a subscriber.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  8 років тому +7

      Thank you, I hope you continue to enjoy!

  • @Locomamonk
    @Locomamonk 10 років тому +2

    the end with the old websites cracked me up, man. What decade are we indeed

  • @VibescapeTVmusic
    @VibescapeTVmusic 10 років тому

    You deserve more subs. I'm glad I found you last year, you've become my favorite channel!

  • @IWALVG
    @IWALVG 10 років тому +19

    Great review as always, Clint! Seems to me EA released the game a year too early... which seems to be their USUAL way of going about their business...

    • @nukeclears
      @nukeclears 10 років тому +4

      Titanfall and Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare
      *disagree*

    • @MrJenssen
      @MrJenssen 10 років тому +1

      nukeclears
      Titanfall has severe performance issues on the Xbox One. And all versions of the game are bare bones in terms of content. Three different pistols, basically one of each type of primary weapon, the selection of game modes is low on quantity and originality... It's not a very buggy game, but it's hardly a full game at all. Even if it had a proper singleplayer campaign, I would argue that it's not worth $60.

    • @nukeclears
      @nukeclears 10 років тому +1

      MrJenssen i prefer a rock solid mutliplayer focused FPS that is free of bugs and is extremely fun over something like BF4 that still doesnt work properly.

    • @MrJenssen
      @MrJenssen 10 років тому +2

      nukeclears
      Sure, if you don't mind spending the money. But I personally find it kind of insulting to demand €120 to get a full game, that is essentially a slight evolution of the Call of Duty formula.

    • @nichsa8984
      @nichsa8984 3 роки тому

      @@nukeclears simcity cities of tomorrow more like a simcity cities of depression

  • @DavidStudiosproduct
    @DavidStudiosproduct 10 років тому +16

    Music sounds like Blade Runner, or synth done right.

  • @EyeoftheU
    @EyeoftheU 9 років тому +70

    The city sizes remain small basically because the Glassbox engine is a fundamentally broken piece of garbage.

  • @tugrulserhat
    @tugrulserhat 3 роки тому +7

    size restriction is actually because of the performance problem. if you get more than 350-400k agents in a city it starts to tank so much like 10-12 fps. I made a tourism city with other cities around on online mode and when I got 200k residents and 150-170k tourists the game became unplayable so I had to stop playing that city altogether. either I was gonna remove all tourism or play at 12 fps

  • @TeamRocket98
    @TeamRocket98 10 років тому +4

    LGR the one thing I agree with you the most among everything you said is the FUCKIN SOUNDTRACK. Cities of tomorrow truly is the best soundtrack from a video game I ever heard. Some is relaxing, some is very electronica, and some is very party dancing....so entertaining on my ears!

  • @HeroicPunk
    @HeroicPunk 10 років тому +3

    Geocities? Angelfire? Lycos? Alta-vista? Dude, OLD SCHOOL! I kinda love it, and the review, too!
    I'm so glad that when I needed my SimCity fix, I simply got SimCity 4 off Steam for $5 at Xmas, cuz I'm not gonna bother with this game unless it gets DIRT cheap in a few years. Until then...

  • @LinkRocks
    @LinkRocks 10 років тому

    This was a big help. I've been thinking about getting this game (on the cheap), but wasn't sure if all the bugs/issues were gone. It sounds like this game is not worth $60, but at $20 or so it's worth checking out. Thanks for the re-review!

  • @casualretrocollector
    @casualretrocollector 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s kind of sad because Clint was so passionately in love with the sim city series through his life. And ea completely killed it, and that’s has since been the last ever simcity 2013 video from lgr. I feel for you man

    • @LGR
      @LGR  3 місяці тому +1

      True, but thankfully Cities Skylines did a nice job filling the void and I’ve made a ton of videos about that :)

    • @casualretrocollector
      @casualretrocollector 3 місяці тому

      @@LGR yes indeed sir, cities skylines is amazing!

  • @letsplayXBOXgames9
    @letsplayXBOXgames9 9 років тому +6

    They need to make SIM CITY : Cities of the past. As an Expansion Pack

  • @MineMiguel40
    @MineMiguel40 4 роки тому +4

    A futuristic expansion for cities skylines is something I'd love

  • @velius2014
    @velius2014 10 років тому

    Great review LGR, i think i am ready to get this now, i was waiting for them to crack and pull the always online single player. I feel upcoming mods will address the city size so i am not worried about that.

  • @Mani-aX
    @Mani-aX 3 місяці тому +1

    I don't play this version of the game, but bought the cd soundtrack to cities of tomorrow and have absolutely loved it!

  • @xSTATOKEx
    @xSTATOKEx 10 років тому +49

    Unrelated but have you ever though of voice acting? I'm sure it be a fun way to make some extra money and exposure.

    • @plemgrubern
      @plemgrubern 10 років тому +4

      he played duke nukem in a racing game that I forgot the name. it was pretty awesome

    • @LGR
      @LGR  10 років тому +23

      Yup! Here's one game I was in not long ago: store.steampowered.com/app/243800/

    • @ditchen011
      @ditchen011 10 років тому +10

      Lazy Game Reviews You should do more of that, love your voice, it's so captivating!

    • @Frebibble
      @Frebibble 10 років тому +4

      Even though he has an enjoyable voice to listen to, it doesn't mean he has the talent to act. Not many do. It's easy to think that because somebody has a good voice. That they naturally know how to act.

    • @khugansixtyeight
      @khugansixtyeight 10 років тому

      Amaranthus616 For the longest, I assumed he was!

  • @RizzyKhaos
    @RizzyKhaos 10 років тому +7

    I miss the LGR sims 3 Lets Play

  • @benfoldsfans
    @benfoldsfans 9 років тому

    Great review man, thanks for sharing

  • @TheLukesterGaming
    @TheLukesterGaming 10 років тому

    I've been watching a lot of your Sims 1 & 2 videos recently, and then I started checking out your SimCity videos too today, of which I found that you had uploaded this new one about 7/8 hours ago now as well, so I've just come here after watching your previous review on SimCity 2013 after it was first released! It's great to hear about a lot of the improvements they've made to it since then, but you'd think that if offline mode is now possible as well, then surely bigger cities has to be one of the next features they could implement? Even if they had to do a bigger region, or perhaps one the same as the current sized ones, but instead of a bunch of the smaller cities, they could have less of them as bigger cities instead, allowing for a bigger building area and more freedom to experiment with the many gameplay elements available! My birthday is coming up soon, so I may have to ask nicely to see if I can finally get my hands on it :P seeing as I was put off getting it before with all of its issues and broken gameplay problems!

  • @ingots4353
    @ingots4353 10 років тому +5

    Bf4 needs to be revisited too. It is almost at the release point it should of been when initially reached.
    I've kinda lost faith in most EA titles, knowing not to buy it tell the games are officially fixed a year later.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  10 років тому +3

      I never visited/reviewed BF4 in the first place, so I can't exactly do that!

    • @ingots4353
      @ingots4353 10 років тому +1

      Oh sorry, I wasn't suggesting it to you! Just in general with ea titles they usually need two reviews now a days.
      Good games, good engines, bad ethics.

  • @ChristopherSadlowski
    @ChristopherSadlowski 10 років тому +3

    Just came back to SimCity after almost a year of not playing. The launch was horrifying to say the least. Thank god I was patient and picked up my copy for 25 bucks used back then or I would have been seriously pissed. Almost all the bugs and general crap-ness have been fixed and the game really is quite a joy to play now. I tried offline but for me and my play style I'm not a fan of constantly switching between my cities to get things right. If you find this game on sale you should certainly pick it up now. It's still rough and in my opinion needs a TON more content but for 20 bucks you won't regret it...

  • @AryzenI
    @AryzenI 8 років тому

    I've been watching you for so long... AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVEN'T SUBSCRIBED YET!

  • @gilgameshofsumer7375
    @gilgameshofsumer7375 7 років тому

    Thank you for the review, most people don't do good reviews but this one was actually interesting and helpful

  • @XxHessxX7
    @XxHessxX7 10 років тому +11

    if EA was smart they would make the city limits bigger!! I don't understand why they just don't do it... if the city limits was at least double it would be a enjoyable game.

    • @roseleicher9100
      @roseleicher9100 10 років тому +3

      They will make that a expansion pack do they get more Money

    • @nichsa8984
      @nichsa8984 3 роки тому

      @@roseleicher9100 three word:valve is superiority

  • @ink3988
    @ink3988 7 років тому +3

    Gotta admit, cities of tomorrow was rad
    The designs are gorgeous

  • @pqfamilyadventures
    @pqfamilyadventures 9 років тому +1

    Good reviews, good presentation, subscribed

  • @Icebears4ever
    @Icebears4ever 10 років тому +1

    Awesome video as always. I'll play Sim City now

  • @KittyKatForeverAndEv
    @KittyKatForeverAndEv 9 років тому +9

    tbh u deserve way more subscribers

  • @Shady00018
    @Shady00018 10 років тому +42

    Good Video bro! Cheers!

  • @LockeRobsta
    @LockeRobsta 6 років тому +1

    So many comments have already mentioned this but it really is all about Cities: Skylines now. This is a classic case of a company (EA or possibly Maxis themselves) that sat on its laurels while the upstart newbie listened to what the people want and then gave it to them. Thank you Paradox! Now if you could only tone down your overpricing of expansion packs you will be perfect!

  • @ShiggitayMediaProductions
    @ShiggitayMediaProductions 7 років тому

    Dookienut Ridge... lol. Good job on this video. I'm a somewhat new subscriber, but I've seen several of your videos in passing even before subbing. Keep up the good work! :)

  • @PurushNahiMahaPurush
    @PurushNahiMahaPurush 7 років тому +5

    The only good thing about this game is the background music. Good god..its so awesome!

  • @Nazrat84
    @Nazrat84 10 років тому +11

    "Modding"
    You mean "buy more DLC and Expansions to be able to use player created content that's mostly recolor or assets changing or risk getting banned" right? Still bugs me about Sims 3.

    • @simonro9168
      @simonro9168 7 років тому

      "buy more DLC and Expansions to be able to use player created content that's mostly recolor or assets changing or risk getting banned" right?" Are we talking aboyt the same Sims 3 here?

  • @NulixFTW
    @NulixFTW 10 років тому +2

    Man I really hope modders managed to make the map larger. If they can I think I'd really enjoy going back to this game

  • @tantraman93
    @tantraman93 4 роки тому +2

    If the current incarnation of 'Simcity' were a car it would be an Edsel.

  • @HissinSpit
    @HissinSpit 10 років тому +7

    You know what I've learned from this whole fiasco? Never to trust EA when they first launch a game (at least for the PC).

    • @nova423
      @nova423 3 роки тому +1

      This comment has aged quite well.

  • @chris-hayes
    @chris-hayes 9 років тому +15

    Kind of disappointed to have enjoyed simcity 4 and then finally after ten years, you get an ok game with better graphics as expected, but ultimately overall worse play than a game made in 2003.

  • @ideemi3657
    @ideemi3657 8 років тому

    Thank you for revisiting games...you have my subscription!

  • @philippeshewchenko
    @philippeshewchenko 10 років тому

    You always do very good review!

  • @awesomenokes
    @awesomenokes 10 років тому +3

    Check a little game called "Cities XL" on Steam, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised

  • @Danbotology
    @Danbotology 10 років тому +4

    I miss my Geocities page :(

  • @mediaunarmed
    @mediaunarmed 10 років тому +1

    "City sizes have been a constant point of conversation among our players since we released the game. The game’s original design focused on the density of an intimate urban environment. It was about intercity connectivity and the challenge of managing a region of cities instead of one metropolis in isolation. However, we recognize that many players have expressed the desire to build up one big city rather than manage the interrelationship of multiple smaller cities.
    We’ve put months of investigation into making larger city sizes, reworking the terrain maps, changing the routing algorithms of our agent-based system and altering the way that GlassBox processes the data in a larger space.
    After months of testing, I confirm that we will not be providing bigger city sizes. The system performance challenges we encountered would mean that the vast majority of our players wouldn’t be able to load, much less play with bigger cities. We've tried a number of different approaches to bring performance into an acceptable range, but we just couldn’t achieve it within the confines of the engine. We've chosen to cease work on bigger city sizes and put that effort into continuing to evolve the core game and explore an offline mode. Some of the experiments we conducted to improve performance on bigger cities will be rolled into future updates to improve overall game performance." - some EA guy. Not me.

  • @saegoto
    @saegoto 9 років тому +24

    simcity

    • @Masonicon
      @Masonicon 9 років тому +1

      saegoto What about older SImcity?

    • @JaimeValladares00
      @JaimeValladares00 8 років тому

      ***** What?

    • @thegreatjuks3834
      @thegreatjuks3834 8 років тому

      Jaime Valladares With mods. Without mods it really doesn't look that good.

    • @JaimeValladares00
      @JaimeValladares00 8 років тому +1

      The Cartoonsiastic Even without mods, it looks great!

    • @thegreatjuks3834
      @thegreatjuks3834 8 років тому

      Jaime Valladares Yes, it does look good, I think I'm just blinded by how good-looking skylines is.

  • @thatgamereviews
    @thatgamereviews 10 років тому +4

    Hey, just curious, what happened to your Sims Medieval: Pirates and Nobles review from long ago? Did you decide not to do it?

    • @LGR
      @LGR  10 років тому

      Hmm, I don't recall ever saying I was going to do one. In fact, I said several times in the comments that I had no interest in covering it since it was such a crappy little expansion!

    • @thatgamereviews
      @thatgamereviews 10 років тому +1

      Oh, sorry, for some reason I thought you had said you would do a review of it before. It did seem to be the most unambitious out of all the Sims franchise expansion packs, and that really says something.

  • @GlitchG00D5
    @GlitchG00D5 8 років тому +4

    I want a Cities Of Yesterday.

    • @toadkat9
      @toadkat9 8 років тому +6

      +Stanley54 XD but more like Towns of Yesterday

    • @GlitchG00D5
      @GlitchG00D5 8 років тому +1

      true toadkat9

    • @stephenweger9680
      @stephenweger9680 8 років тому +3

      +Stanley54 Simcity2000 :)

  • @TezzerethPrime
    @TezzerethPrime 10 років тому

    That crazy tower building reminds me of the Tower of Sol from the game The Legend of Legaia.

  • @plan7a
    @plan7a 10 років тому

    :D - got the game for a ridiculously cheap price ages back, but haven't installed or played it yet. Waiting for the offline mode to finally become available. Loving the soundtrack featured Clint, might have to get the add-on pack before I can actually play the game just so as I can get to enjoy more of that later on... Thank you for making this updated review/thoughts/revisited video, as I was still wondering if it was worth hanging on to. The online mode just didn't entice me to play it before now.

  • @thecensoriouscritic9358
    @thecensoriouscritic9358 10 років тому +18

    Just buy Tropico 4 or wait for Tropico 5, about 50 times better than simcity.

    • @Momo-po5tn
      @Momo-po5tn 10 років тому +5

      agreed

    • @LosEagle
      @LosEagle 9 років тому

      I'd rather recommend Tropico 3 since 4 is pretty much 3 with couple of new things and 5 doesn't really do was intended for. Even the eras don't last long enough.

    • @thecensoriouscritic9358
      @thecensoriouscritic9358 9 років тому +8

      LosEagle If 4 is just 3 with just a few more things wouldn't it make more sense to buy 4? I mean it has more things(even if only a few) and they are both about the same price. I wouldn't know though, I only own 4. I bought it when it was on sale on steam for 4 euros and it included all the DLC plus the expansion pack. Pretty good deal if you ask me.

    • @LosEagle
      @LosEagle 9 років тому +4

      kurasa otaku Yeah that's good point.

    • @thecensoriouscritic9358
      @thecensoriouscritic9358 9 років тому +2

      LosEagle Thanks.

  • @gator36
    @gator36 10 років тому +3

    EA has figured out how to deter pirates: make their games suck ass.

  • @tiberiusbrain
    @tiberiusbrain 5 років тому +1

    Watching this video made me decide to play simcity music whilenplayong cities skylines. Love that soundscape!

  • @NetTubeUser
    @NetTubeUser 9 років тому +1

    9:53 - Yes, definitely! It's *really* inspired by Vangelis! Way too much I would say and to be honest, like _"Blade Runner", "Antarctica" and "1492: Conquest of Paradise"_. I just only hope that Vangelis is not angry :)

    • @evilmario6061
      @evilmario6061 Рік тому +1

      RIP to the Greek god of synths. It's a huge compliment/homage to him and the Yamaha CS-80, this COT soundtrack

    • @NetTubeUser
      @NetTubeUser Рік тому +1

      @@evilmario6061 Yes, I agree ... poor Vangelis. Dead because of this awful COVID-19!! Pfff ... we have lost a genius, and a pure soul, so to speak.
      (P.S: I cannot believe that I made this comment above 7 years ago ... OOOF, time flies! I feel old right now, haha!)

    • @evilmario6061
      @evilmario6061 Рік тому +1

      @@NetTubeUser see you in 7 years mate!

    • @NetTubeUser
      @NetTubeUser Рік тому +1

      @@evilmario6061 Hahaha! See you in seven years then! Stay safe, and take care! ;-)

  • @cd2220
    @cd2220 10 років тому +3

    Now this is something I was really curious about. This is going to be a bit of a rant but...
    Always online, in my experience, does nothing but put in very difficult to fix bugs, huge day one (often much longer) issues, and a lot less freedom for the player. The worst part is, this only really affects the people who actually pay for the games. I understand these guys need to make money, but it's ridiculous how people paying good money for a game, most likely big fans, suffer because the publishers want to make more. Then they destroy the trust between fans and the people who make the game by flat out lying and pretending the game has some sort of cloud computing (I personally think cloud computing in itself is an impossible concept, at least with today's tech) process that the game needs to run properly.
    Piracy in itself is way overblown most of the time. A lot of times they yell piracy when the game was just not good or popular enough to make money or the publishers were expecting too much in the first place and had an overblown budget. At the end of the day, I can deal with always online for the first week or so, because that is reasonable as that's when a game gets the most sales. But otherwise, it's just too intrusive. Even then I still don't really like it. There's got to be a better alternative. I love the concept of digital distribution but people like EA make me afraid to really invest in it. They're always trying to take more and more rights away from the buyer that I would still have had I bought a hard copy.
    Also, good video :D

    • @HissinSpit
      @HissinSpit 10 років тому

      Yes! Plus, the people who have a poor internet connection are screwed. If they really want the game, they can't play it unless they're willing to take a risk. And that hurts consumer trust even more, in my opinion.

    • @cd2220
      @cd2220 10 років тому +1

      Yea, my internet drops ALL the time. If the game doesn't explicitly require internet connection, like say, Titanfall or other multiplayer games, it's nothing but a problem. Even then, what if someone wants to have a LAN party but doesn't have internet at the location. They're such a huge trust gap (or whatever the term is lol) between publishers and the people who play their games. Even between devs and publishers. Too many shady, hastily made decisions chosen by unknowledgeble share holders only interested in making a couple more bucks. Or a pub or dev guy trying to make them believe the games worth funding because it supposedly can't be pirated.

  • @captainufo4587
    @captainufo4587 8 років тому +4

    I could tolerate the small cities size had they at least made the region like SC4, with contiguous plots that allow you to make a huge regional metropolis while keeping the simulation confined in a single plot.
    I honestly don't understand why they didn't.

    • @Krkrbs419
      @Krkrbs419 8 років тому

      It's really mind boggling how they could of screwed that up, if they kept it that way then this game would of survived.

  • @sandragruber4596
    @sandragruber4596 10 років тому +1

    "...you have stuff like pulled from blade runner, judge dredd and ghost in the shell..." you can make it short and say just blade runner, because taht is the source for all those SF movies an still is. yes, I'm obsessed with this movie XD

  • @lukethis2924
    @lukethis2924 8 років тому

    One main reason I watch your videos is because of your voice! :D

  • @SebbySenpai
    @SebbySenpai 10 років тому +19

    I've never played a city building game like this before.
    What would be some good recommendations that are actually worth playing?

    • @seanhornibrook
      @seanhornibrook 10 років тому +6

      Banished. It's on Steam.

    • @SometimesOriginal
      @SometimesOriginal 10 років тому

      Sean Hornibrook Is it really that good?

    • @TheBunny5252
      @TheBunny5252 10 років тому

      Cities in Motion (buy the original, CIM2 sucks) is really fun but is public transport planning rather than city building, however there is a map editor to build your own cities.

    • @mirta000
      @mirta000 10 років тому +3

      I would say go for Cities XL series for a more in depth city building sim. It's just what sim city series could have turned into if EA actually cared about their title.

    • @aedanclarke
      @aedanclarke 10 років тому +2

      SometimesOriginal It's very good. It's not easy, though. And it's not so much a CITY building game as it is a town building game... But it's very, very good.

  • @blazeultimo
    @blazeultimo 8 років тому +24

    now revisit it AGAIN!

  • @MrKrzys01
    @MrKrzys01 4 роки тому

    Aww man... Alta Vista... those were they days. Much love!

  • @igorokinamujika2073
    @igorokinamujika2073 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't know why, but I really enjoyed this game, both the vanilla and the expansion. Even at the launch, with all those bugs and and paying 60€ (plus 30€ for the expansion). I just have fun with it, building my town from start, seeing it grow, specializing...
    I also tried Cities Skylines but, for some reason I liked this more. I guess I prefer small, specialised cities. Plus, that soundtrack is great. I made a mod for Surviving Mars just to listen the Cities of Tomorrow tracks (although I also like that game's original soundtrack).

    • @ziinlovesyou
      @ziinlovesyou 29 днів тому

      Me too! I agree with your comment. Do you still play it? Maybe we can do something together.

    • @wileysneak
      @wileysneak 10 днів тому +1

      i also enjoyed sim city 2013 a lot at release even with all the bad. if you play cities skylines, you can mod the sim city 2013 music in and use the "real time" mod - which imo feels close to sim city 2013

  • @DDKNV
    @DDKNV 10 років тому +3

    EA has become a publisher I just can't trust to give money to anymore.

  • @OliOligon
    @OliOligon 10 років тому +21

    hmm I expected a 30 second clip:
    No!
    The credits
    :D
    P.S. A game like Banished made by ONE person puts this EA fail to utter shame. Mapsize and AI is still a joke. SimCity is a lost case. Sorry

    • @jeromealday614
      @jeromealday614 5 років тому

      Have you played the game before judging it? ( I know I'm 4 years late but what the hell..)

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 3 роки тому

      The thing is, SimCity 2013 seems like absolute garbage. The fact that the fifth installment to a franchise has ANY issues like these is just shameful. And Cities: Skylines is so much better.

  • @stryk187
    @stryk187 10 років тому +2

    "Dookienut Ridge"
    Pure genius. Liked, subscribed, +7

  • @arcticfox04
    @arcticfox04 10 років тому

    Thanks LGR. I'll have to see if they fix the games with Mods down the road. I'm a hardcore Simcity 3000 player and love huge cities.

  • @HenrikoMagnifico
    @HenrikoMagnifico 4 роки тому +6

    I still way prefer the graphics and art style of Simcity 2013 over Cities Skylines. I hope we'll see a Cities Skylines Massive Update soon, with improved graphics like this.

  • @FornicateWithRaptors
    @FornicateWithRaptors 10 років тому +3

    SimCity 4 is on steam for 10 euroshillings.

  • @ScoobyBaseball
    @ScoobyBaseball 10 років тому

    If this really was "unscripted" (wouldn't doubt it) than that was impressive. It just goes to show how easily and flawlessly you're able to review games/things now. I remember when you first started out (plugging an Xbox into a tree comes to mind) and see this, how you're doing now, and what you've turned LGR into is respectful and totally 'phreakin' awesome. Keep it up, Clint!

    • @LGR
      @LGR  10 років тому +1

      Thank you very much! I actually started off doing all my reviews as unscripted, and it really showed then. Now when I do an unscripted video, it's a nice change to see several are impressed :)

  • @DirectorBird
    @DirectorBird 5 років тому

    10:06 I always caught myself doing that when that song came on.