WCW/nWo Starrcade 1998 - The "Reliving The War" PPV Review

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    WCW/nWo Starrcade 1998 took place in Washington, DC on the 27th of December 98. The main event features Kevin Nash vs Goldberg; Kevin Nash won the World War 3 Battle Royal and he earned himself a shot at both the World Championship and the oppurtunity to end Goldberg's undefeated streak. The ending to Starrcade 98 would be talked about for a very long time.
    Elsewhere on the card Eric Bischoff and Ric Flair have a match. After getting fired and brought back to WCW Slick Ric has wanted to get his hands on Bischoff, fans would get to see the showdown at Starrcade.
    Other matches include DDP vs The Giant, Kidman vs Rey Mysterio vs Juventud Guerrera, and Chris Jericho vs Konnan.
    This video is part of the Wrestling Bios "Reliving The War" Series.
    00:00 - Intro
    01:23 - Rey Mysterio vs Kidman vs Juventud Guerrera
    05:05 - Kidman vs Eddie Guerrero
    07:35 - Norman Smiley vs Prince Iaukea
    09:39 - Scott Hall Promo
    10:39 - Ernest Miller vs Saturn
    13:22 - Flair & Bischoff Promos
    16:20 - Chris Jericho vs Konnan
    19:13 - Ric Flair vs Eric Bischoff
    22:26 - The Giant vs Diamond Dallas Page
    26:33 - Goldberg vs Kevin Nash
    30:54 - Final Thoughts / Credits
    #WCW #nWo #Wrestling
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  • @azapro911
    @azapro911 9 місяців тому +589

    From here, covering WCW on Reliving The War will be like a 2.5 year acid trip.

    • @victoryusmc
      @victoryusmc 9 місяців тому +20

      Can't wait!

    • @atlasblast2082
      @atlasblast2082 9 місяців тому +37

      You're not wrong. This is the Epoch of disaster

    • @Dave0G
      @Dave0G 9 місяців тому +32

      I remember on my own re-watch of the War a few years ago being surprised at how well 99 held up for wCw given the usual story.
      Now 2000, that was madness made manifest!

    • @benjaminmee3751
      @benjaminmee3751 9 місяців тому +9

      And the first trip peaks the Nitro after this show 😂😂😂

    • @exilhamburger4802
      @exilhamburger4802 9 місяців тому +28

      Actually, having Kevin Nash as the champ might have worked, give him a decent run, with some fresh opponents, who can work around him, or his big man wrestling style.
      Nash losing the belt to Hogan with the FpoD was the real problem.
      Even Hogan beating Goldberg directly might have worked better!

  • @shibbywwe
    @shibbywwe 9 місяців тому +135

    This series deserves all the praise it gets

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 9 місяців тому +5

      Homeboy put the work in, in these series.. You can tell he is passionate about Pro Wrestling, video making and accuracy.. Dude is legit as they come..

  • @Billy-ot8mk
    @Billy-ot8mk 9 місяців тому +119

    That Chokeslam counter into a Diamond Cutter was awesome.

    • @Roflcrabs
      @Roflcrabs 9 місяців тому +14

      I think DDP's reaction to it made it more awsome like "did you see that sh*t!? Damn I'm good! Okay tired now."

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah! That was fire 🔥🔥 DDP and Paul White was athletic as hell..

    • @KegOfMeat
      @KegOfMeat 9 місяців тому +4

      Probably the second best Diamond Cutter reversal after the Jackhammer counter from Halloween Havoc.

    • @pushon10
      @pushon10 9 місяців тому

      I agree

    • @panagenesis2695
      @panagenesis2695 9 місяців тому +1

      Honestly, 1) they should've slowly built up Golberg over 2-3 years, 2) they should've had the nWo Hollywood vs. WolfPac civil war and 3) Goldberg should've entered Starrcade as the Challenger and been crowned with the belt to reign in '99. That storyline booking would've put them over WWF.

  • @UfodexENMD
    @UfodexENMD 9 місяців тому +149

    This PPV showed how much of a beast Billy Kidman was after going 2 full matches back to back!!

    • @criminalmindsgirl2936
      @criminalmindsgirl2936 9 місяців тому +4

      Exactly what I said!

    • @bnferguson9827
      @bnferguson9827 9 місяців тому +14

      Billy Kidman was totally underrated!

    • @mizer9510
      @mizer9510 9 місяців тому

      Yeah but they made him look too strong. I get why they did it though. I was always more of a Juvi fan.

    • @ianpilkington2037
      @ianpilkington2037 9 місяців тому +2

      He always reminded me of a younger Bret Hart

    • @tobznoobs
      @tobznoobs 9 місяців тому +3

      i rated kidman more than rey back then i had hoped better things when vince bought wcw but alas it was rey who flourished.

  • @denniswilliams6519
    @denniswilliams6519 9 місяців тому +78

    Just imagine Vince McMahon pinning Stone Cold in the ring at WrestleMania. The amount of ego Bischoff had to *need* to get this win here over Ric is just disgusting really.

    • @chrisbelos2834
      @chrisbelos2834 9 місяців тому +21

      erm... you know that Vince won the 99 rumble by throwing over stone cold, right? they both have big egos. the "vince mcmahon kiss my ass club" comes to mind.

    • @tomlehmann306
      @tomlehmann306 9 місяців тому +21

      @@chrisbelos2834it made sense in storyline for Vince to win the rumble. Stone cold main evented mania anyways. If Eric won at Halloween Havoc or whatever it would have been better. Flair needed to win

    • @denniswilliams6519
      @denniswilliams6519 9 місяців тому +17

      @@chrisbelos2834 Was dumb but least that win was to set up the main event of WrestleMania and Vince allowed Austin to hand him his ass the next month in a cage to get to WrestleMania.
      This was Bischoff just choosing to pin Flair at the biggest show for his own sake with no storyline advancement.

    • @chadarcher13
      @chadarcher13 9 місяців тому +5

      @@denniswilliams6519 there WAS storyline development though, Flair got his win the next night on Nitro along with being President of the company and when you hear Bischoff talk about how WCW was a TV company first, you start to see why choices like that were made to accentuate the moments on TV instead of PPV

    • @exe2517
      @exe2517 9 місяців тому +8

      @@chadarcher13 No surprise why WCW went out of business if that was their philosophy.

  • @D4NK1
    @D4NK1 9 місяців тому +6

    About time Goldberg was taken down a peg, so that young and upcoming stars like Kevin Nash and Hulk Hogan could finally have their time to shine

  • @Venemofthe888
    @Venemofthe888 9 місяців тому +46

    Quite interesting that this is The Giant's last PPV appearance for WCW before he goes to the WWF the next year. He still has a little more to go on WCW Television but yh this is his last WCW PPV

    • @alreyes8393
      @alreyes8393 9 місяців тому +3

      I was thinking about, Giant makes his final WCW TV apperance just 15 days later

  • @jayclifford9700
    @jayclifford9700 9 місяців тому +28

    Delayed in Dublin Airport for 2 hrs and suddenly this drops. WB you've saved my sanity my good man.

  • @gregoryhoyle3739
    @gregoryhoyle3739 9 місяців тому +121

    Even though WCW basically starts bleeding to death on this night, I hope you continue this series until the end.

    • @WrestlingCompilations
      @WrestlingCompilations 9 місяців тому +5

      Me too

    • @eabcool
      @eabcool 9 місяців тому +18

      yeah can you imagine how mismatched the next couple years of head to heads are going to be

    • @WrestlingCompilations
      @WrestlingCompilations 9 місяців тому +32

      @@eabcool I wouldn't be surprised if WWE wins all the remaining episodes of Reliving The War

    • @gregoryhoyle3739
      @gregoryhoyle3739 9 місяців тому +11

      @eabcool WCW has good moments going forward. They'll even win a few head to heads from this point. To make things fair, the point system should change again.

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 9 місяців тому +10

      @gregoryhoyle3739 I could be wrong but the night after Halloween Havoc 1998 would be the last time Nitro beat Raw head to head.

  • @jonlester62
    @jonlester62 9 місяців тому +27

    That Konnan/Lex/Bagwell/Steiner backstage segment was such foreshadowing seeing it now in hindsight.

  • @KIDTV-qe2dm
    @KIDTV-qe2dm 9 місяців тому +15

    Fun Fact: This was on Goldberg's birthday 🎂

  • @PJErvin
    @PJErvin 9 місяців тому +39

    The impromptu match between Kidman and Eddie was so well booked, it almost made me forget the ridiculous scenario of the competitors deciding to have an impromptu match at the beginning of the year’s biggest event, two months after fans missed the main event for going over the allotted time.

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      The sad thing is Turners own cable company was 1 of the company's shutting it off early. I watched on Cablevision and saw the whole thing that night.

  • @talkingben5190
    @talkingben5190 9 місяців тому +14

    I cannot believe the likes of Jerry Flynn, Fit Finley and bloody Prince Ieukea got PPV time ON STARRCADE and not the likes of Luger, Hitman, Scott Steiner, Booker T, Malenko and Benoit. I simply can never get my head around it

    • @DBoy38
      @DBoy38 9 місяців тому +7

      Bret was injured at the time.

    • @henry7696
      @henry7696 9 місяців тому +1

      why would anyone want a luger match at a ppv? like the other old boys, he couldnt wrestle.

    • @talkingben5190
      @talkingben5190 9 місяців тому +4

      @@henry7696 I'm talking about star power mate. Sure he wasn't over in late 98 like he was in late 96 - mid 97 but he'll get more interest than bloody Jerry flynn

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@henry7696
      So what? Nash can't wrestle either,
      and Goldberg is a rookie.
      The point was WCW had a legion of talented guys, but didn't use them.

  • @TheCrimsonCretin
    @TheCrimsonCretin 9 місяців тому +27

    I love that Norman Smiley getting some love on this show. I remember back in the day having fun watching Smiley. I always thought him and Ernest Miller were under rated

    • @druagamaniac
      @druagamaniac 9 місяців тому +4

      i cant wait for hardcore champion norman smiley, always laughed at those segments

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      ​@@druagamaniac
      Screamin Norman 😂
      in a suit of armor 🤣

  • @michaelsaenz
    @michaelsaenz 9 місяців тому +10

    Looking back now, I would love to see a Kidman versus HBK match.

  • @PoeticProphetic
    @PoeticProphetic 9 місяців тому +22

    I sure hope WCW have interesting plans for Kevin Nash after this and he doesn’t end up looking like a transitional champion 🏆

    • @AMFL3116
      @AMFL3116 9 місяців тому +8

      "That doesn't work for me, brother!" 😂

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      Sorry bro, he's going to lose the title to Hogan....twice. 😂

    • @michaelbreen7865
      @michaelbreen7865 5 місяців тому

      SPOILER: NOPE!

  • @mulldrifterz6469
    @mulldrifterz6469 9 місяців тому +76

    I have very fond memories of this PPV as a kid, watching it live. I was 100% a Kevin Nash fan and wanted him to win, at the time. But him winning with Scott Hall's help? It turned me on him.

    • @yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy
      @yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy 9 місяців тому +8

      Well you couldn't beat goldberg clean like he did wrath

    • @Machete87
      @Machete87 9 місяців тому +15

      @@yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy which is y Goldberg shoulda dropped the belt to Page at Havoc after the Diamond Cutter. It woulda seemed more legit n less anticlimatic than Nash's win..

    • @Ronfost89
      @Ronfost89 9 місяців тому +10

      See I was fine with it, I loved Scott Hall and Nash as a team so seeing them work together made me happier than Nash winning.

    • @Hyde_Hill
      @Hyde_Hill 9 місяців тому

      Was a fan of both and I was actually kind of glad to see Hall and Nash back together again. Had hoped that with Hall the Wolfpack would finally kill NWO black and white followed by implosion with WCW finally winning. Interesting how different people can react.

    • @Blue1479758
      @Blue1479758 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@Machete87 how does that make any sense? If anything it would have made it seem less legit. Nash was the only babyface at this time that was built up enough to beat him. Hogan likely should have been the one to beat him if you didn't want a clean finish.

  • @markwebster76
    @markwebster76 9 місяців тому +20

    To quote Count Dooku;
    "Ive been looking forward to this".

  • @criminalmindsgirl2936
    @criminalmindsgirl2936 9 місяців тому +65

    The way Kidman wrestled back to back was awesome! Dude was so underrated! He doesn't get enough credit. A shame he retired early.

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 9 місяців тому +11

      Kidman was criminally underrated. Should have been pushed further but God forbid someone else gets a push over Hogan & friends

    • @mrdude88
      @mrdude88 9 місяців тому +3

      I don't think Kidman was underrated at all. He was on TV every week and had so many pushes. Of course, those pushes weren't supposed to make him the heavyweight champ but as a cruiserweight, he had more than just cruiserweight matches. Surprisingly, Disco Inferno was also in the same boat. Very high mid-card.

    • @willkayl8793
      @willkayl8793 9 місяців тому +7

      I agree. Kidman was the heart and soul of the Cruiserweight division along with Eddie and Rey. So innovative.

    • @criminalmindsgirl2936
      @criminalmindsgirl2936 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@HabsMike25, I agree but he just wasn't the right person to go against Hogan. But that wasn't his fault though.

    • @TheImapotato
      @TheImapotato 9 місяців тому +2

      @@HabsMike25 Kidman was GREAT in the ring, but not good with everything else. He needed to be champ to get heat wherein Eddie and Misterio didn't need a belt to have psychology or storylines. Guys like Kidman have a place in wrestling for sure, but when WWE took over, you could tell it wasn't a good sign for guys like him, shame as he would have been the charismatic one in today's wrestling

  • @HarmonySword
    @HarmonySword 9 місяців тому +12

    Kidman being the workhorse of the night is very respectable and both matches were great too. I love this series for making me appreciate BK after overlooking him for so many years.

  • @RonCorleone
    @RonCorleone 9 місяців тому +56

    DDP as a heel or DDP as a face is the only person I feel could've and/or should've ended the streak. I think he's the only person fans could've accepted ending the streak. Even if Sting ended the streak I feel like people would've been like ""Okay...but why?" DDP just seems like the only one that makes sense(to me at least) in terms of believability, being someone the fans could accept, and someone who needed that big accolade.

    • @benjaminmee3751
      @benjaminmee3751 9 місяців тому +27

      His finisher was the reason why it would’ve been believable but WCW couldn’t protect anything worthwhile so it got flattened too.

    • @SiReTV8929
      @SiReTV8929 9 місяців тому +5

      But, I counted that scenario with DDP already had his big accolade when he had his legendary 3 match series against the "Macho Man" Randy Savage in 1997 and was a made man afterwards. Ofc, he hasn't won the World Heavyweight Championship but he would have gotten the same amount of flack for winning from the fans.

    • @ryankeefe2102
      @ryankeefe2102 9 місяців тому +11

      Well yea the diamond cutter was a move that was established he could hit on anyone from anywhere at any time so goldberg goes for the Spear and jack hammer DDP slips out diamond cutter 123 even have goldberg kick out at 3.5 if you like but that would work

    • @MyPisceanNature
      @MyPisceanNature 9 місяців тому +9

      I don't mind how the streak ended. The problem comes in 2 weeks when they make it all meaningless, along with their top championship, which they will continue to do REPEATEDLY until the company dies.

    • @Shalashaskaa
      @Shalashaskaa 9 місяців тому +5

      In hindsight that would have been at Halloween Havoc 98. But then you would have him lose clean. I still think Goldberg was still too over to lose the title clean

  • @chibipoe
    @chibipoe 9 місяців тому +29

    Eddie settles into the very rare crowd of people who CAN powerbomb Kidman.

    • @chibipoe
      @chibipoe 9 місяців тому +1

      @@teo_heel This is true! And Eddie does try it a second time and gets properly chastised by Kidman. Even if you manage to powerbomb Kidman once, you definitely can't do it *twice*. :D

  • @BookslingerMonty
    @BookslingerMonty 9 місяців тому +91

    The night the decline of WCW got carved in stone

    • @silver6kraid
      @silver6kraid 9 місяців тому +31

      Starcade 1997 was the beginning of the end. This is the point of no return where they could no longer stop the downfall.

    • @Dr-Alexander-The-Great
      @Dr-Alexander-The-Great 9 місяців тому +18

      Just wait, two weeks later, we got the finger poke of doom.

    • @stephenrobinson8244
      @stephenrobinson8244 9 місяців тому +18

      I think finger poke of doom / Mick Foley's win was the tombstone put in place of the death of wcw coming. But this is a choke out event for sure

    • @dougbarrett619part2
      @dougbarrett619part2 9 місяців тому +7

      @@Dr-Alexander-The-Great I'm getting WW2 flashbacks now

    • @TheFriendlyWeirdo
      @TheFriendlyWeirdo 9 місяців тому +15

      @@silver6kraidI personally think it was the Fingerpoke of Doom. That moment solidified that things would probably never change, and they didn’t until Bischoff left.

  • @brettrossi034
    @brettrossi034 9 місяців тому +48

    Prince Iaukea's body stopped mid dive because Norman is too much man for him to move. Norman Smiley is truly an immoveable one and just wants to do his big wiggle finale

    • @mizer9510
      @mizer9510 9 місяців тому +1

      How come he didn't beat Goldberg then?

  • @monarched
    @monarched 9 місяців тому +9

    Regarding the nWo B-Team Vs Finlay/Flynn match, Finlay and Flynn had just teamed up in New Japan's World Tag League that year(FYI Finished last with no points) while Norton and Adams teamed on that same tour, but not in the League. So it wasn't completly random to some extent.

  • @cabutler1
    @cabutler1 9 місяців тому +28

    The cruiserweights carry the show once again. And Billy Kidman deserves all the credit for going in back-to-back matches. Especially after that triple threat. I can only imagine he collapsed in the back somewhere and the guys just let him sleep it off.
    As for the main event, we all knew that when Goldberg got the title, that undefeated streak was going to end. And really, the only way it was going to end is something like this, where it wasn't a clean win. But should Nash have been the guy to dethrone Goldberg? I think, if you're going to put the title on someone and beat Goldberg, clean or not, it should be somebody that can really help elevate the company and really draw attention.
    So, who would be my choice? It'd be fun to say Alex Wright or Normal Smiley, just for the laughs, but in all seriousness, I think it should have been Scott Steiner. Yeah, I know, hindsight and everything, but think about it. If you want to make the nWo relevant again, you should have an nWo guy win it. And I feel like Scott would work, even if he's essentially a transitional champion for a couple of months until they either give it back to Goldberg for the rematch, or put it on another guy, like DDP or Nash. But that's my take on it.
    Plus, I feel like you could get a serious amount of good story telling of Scott beat Goldberg and ended the streak.

    • @madddoggnogood1491
      @madddoggnogood1491 9 місяців тому +4

      I agree.
      Scott stiener would've been a better choice than Nash especially since he waa leading the nwo. And Nash could've feuded with stiener after he won and it would've made more sense seeing how Nash...a babyface at the time won by shenanigans.
      To me bam bam or stiener would've been better choices than Nash
      But hey I'm not the booker

    • @m.night_schlongislong
      @m.night_schlongislong 9 місяців тому +1

      At this time wasn't everyone in wcw terrified of a roided out Scott Steiner?
      Not sure they'd want to put the belt on a guy they couldn't control.
      As a fan, I do like the idea though.

  • @ronaldsb3
    @ronaldsb3 9 місяців тому +4

    I had to watch those cruiserweight matches after watching this….Bobby the brain really put Kidman over during the match on commentary. Fantastic stuff indeed by Kidman

  • @MrSparkles5017
    @MrSparkles5017 9 місяців тому +9

    Wow this is it and there is still gonna be 2 more years of this. It's a ride now

    • @MrSparkles5017
      @MrSparkles5017 9 місяців тому +2

      @@michaelsinger4638 WCW is basically done for by the end of January it is astonishing how fast the drop off is.

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      ​@@MrSparkles5017
      Not done...
      but they reached the top of the mountain and the rest is just falling straight downhill.

  • @elonmusksellssnakeoil1744
    @elonmusksellssnakeoil1744 9 місяців тому +2

    Man, those first two cruiserweight matches were phenomenal from a storytelling perspective. Imagine in WCW extended that level of care to the rest of the roster...

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman 9 місяців тому +20

    Can't wait to hear what you think about Ric Flair stripping down to his Boxers on the Fallout from Starrcade 1998 to Challenge Bischoff once again for Control for WCW

    • @JosephTSena
      @JosephTSena 9 місяців тому +4

      Was that real money he ripped up the following night on Nitro? We all know what the main event was that night.

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 9 місяців тому +1

      @@JosephTSena
      I think Flair actually had real money on him

  • @mitchellwooldridge5118
    @mitchellwooldridge5118 9 місяців тому +13

    Jeez, that opening triple threat was pure fire - what an incredible match! :)

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому +1

      Did you expect anything else...
      from those 3 guys?

  • @Nicksuavemusic
    @Nicksuavemusic 9 місяців тому +16

    Crazy to think this was Goldberg’s only run as wcw champion he definitely should of had another title reign

    • @mizer9510
      @mizer9510 9 місяців тому +1

      No he didn't. Goldberg sucked.

    • @PhenomsServant4
      @PhenomsServant4 9 місяців тому

      @@teo_heel Which is why that doesnt count

    • @Nicksuavemusic
      @Nicksuavemusic 9 місяців тому +1

      @@teo_heel sadly that’s was a dusty finish and Goldberg didn’t regain the big gold belt officially again until 2003

    • @IStevenSeagal
      @IStevenSeagal 9 місяців тому

      Atleast Goldberg is known as one of the best wrestlers of all time. Roddy Piper and Razor Ramon also showed that you dont need the belt to be considered one of the best.

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      One of the blinders WCW did.
      I can understand the need to give other people the title (especially DDP), but the title should have circled back to Goldberg.

  • @deandredukes95
    @deandredukes95 9 місяців тому +16

    Every Starrcade main event all end in controversy

    • @ChrisDarnell001
      @ChrisDarnell001 9 місяців тому +4

      Did Starrcade 2000 end in controversy?

    • @DBoy38
      @DBoy38 9 місяців тому +7

      @@ChrisDarnell001 Not directly, but it would end up linked to the injury Sid suffered the following month at Sin.

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      I don't see what really is the big deal about Starcade 96. It wasn't a title match, but that was already booked for February.
      Piper won clean. No DQ BS. No restart the match. No new referees.
      If you mean The Giant stuff, ok, but that doesn't take away from the match.

  • @HabsMike25
    @HabsMike25 9 місяців тому +18

    Goldberg's Streak had to end but Kevin Nash didn't need to be the person that ended Goldberg's Streak as he was a made star. DDP should have ended it 2 months earlier at Halloween Havoc. DDP is humble at first but slowly develops an Ego & turns heel. You would have Goldberg chasing a heel DDP which would have been so much better than what actually did happen.

    • @coreyhall1150
      @coreyhall1150 9 місяців тому +6

      Exactly DDP shoulda been the guy........ But............... The clique.

    • @undertakernumberone1
      @undertakernumberone1 9 місяців тому +10

      i mean, in all fairness: Nash was over at hte time. Had his reign as a heel champion that, as Nash later suggested, tries to one up Goldberg's streak while dodging him, until Goldberg gets him, happened, we might be talking about it differently.
      Buuut... Fingerpoke of Doom.

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 9 місяців тому +6

      @coreyhall1150 When DDP countered Jackhammer to Diamond Cutter that is when Goldberg's Streak should have ended. It would have been unexpected & shocking but when they alow active stars to be the Booker, no good comes out of it

    • @coreyhall1150
      @coreyhall1150 9 місяців тому +1

      @@HabsMike25 Exactly right.

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 9 місяців тому +4

      @@coreyhall1150 What is criminal is David Arquette & Vince Russo would become WCW World Champions over Goldberg after this

  • @anonymousnobody326
    @anonymousnobody326 9 місяців тому +22

    I recently found a really well done custom DVD of this PPV on eBay and watched it a few days ago (case, artwork, perfect quality and everything). I was actually really surprised by how good the opening Cruiserweight stuff was. Shame that it gets overshadowed by the Nash/Goldberg decision at the end of the night.

  • @Nicksuavemusic
    @Nicksuavemusic 9 місяців тому +6

    When you look back at the hard work these 4 cruiserweights put in in the opening match of wcws biggest annual show it’s crazy to think only Eddie and rey went on to be wwe champion years later Kidman and juve were incredible workers back then

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      Rey being a heavyweight champion is almost an oxymoron. 😂
      No offense, he does have talent.

  • @mikeharless4596
    @mikeharless4596 9 місяців тому +11

    Always a great day when WrestlingBios uploads 😊

  • @robcressey7228
    @robcressey7228 9 місяців тому +10

    And in just eight days after this, the War was over. The fact that they just blew it is still mind-boggling. Had the money, the networks and a stacked roster. Had 6 months before this drew 41,000 in Atlanta for a Nitro. And then just killed it dead. The definition of Epic Fail.

    • @tomlehmann306
      @tomlehmann306 9 місяців тому +1

      All because of ego and incompetence.

    • @danalong1237
      @danalong1237 9 місяців тому +1

      The true end of the War came on 26 March, 2001, when WWE acquired WCW and ended the War against Nitro once and for all.

    • @AMFL3116
      @AMFL3116 9 місяців тому +3

      "I won the title in front of 400,000 people that night, brother! It was the fingerpoke of doom that was heard around the world!"

    • @danalong1237
      @danalong1237 9 місяців тому +5

      “If you’re even thinking about changing the channel to our competition, fans, do not, because we understand that Mick Foley, who wrestled here at one time as Cactus Jack, is gonna win their World Title! Ha! That’s gonna put some butts in the seats, heh!”

    • @chadarcher13
      @chadarcher13 9 місяців тому

      the ratings and attendance numbers tell a different story, the company was still rolling along making good money up until early April which was not only long after the finger poke but also the nWo Elite had run its course by then as well... don't buy into the WWE propaganda machine, WCWs dying moment was losing the Radicals, after that they had zero chance of gaining any sort of lead ever again

  • @ahmadceasar5484
    @ahmadceasar5484 9 місяців тому +3

    That triple threat match for the cruiserweight title is my favorite WcW match of all time

  • @Dr_1212
    @Dr_1212 9 місяців тому +22

    WCW.s last good Starrcade & it wasn't that good Starrcade was actually wrestlemanias father for those that know the story RIP WCW Gone but never forgotten

    • @jamiewiesner135
      @jamiewiesner135 9 місяців тому +6

      Starrcade was the grand daddy of them all.

    • @danalong1237
      @danalong1237 9 місяців тому +1

      Starrcade was WCW’s granddaddy of them all and WrestleMania was, and still is, WWE’s granddaddy of them all!

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@danalong1237
      Yeah, but Starcade is also WWF's granddaddy. Starcade came 1st.

  • @reecepower8906
    @reecepower8906 9 місяців тому +3

    *Turns volume up to max when the Norman Smiley bit starts

  • @timhickey80
    @timhickey80 9 місяців тому +5

    I feel like it’s not unfair to say that Kidman was the secret MVP for WCW in 98. He’s put on some bangers since getting off the smack.

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G 9 місяців тому

      I was thinking Jericho was but I’m not mad at your take. Both these guys gave a lot of good matches in the ring in 98.

  • @newavengerxx4428
    @newavengerxx4428 9 місяців тому +22

    It's so much worse when you consider that Starcade '98 took place on Goldberg's Birthday. Think about that; Goldberg got stunned by a taser, his unbeaten streak was broken and he lost the WCW Championship... on his friggin' Birthday. OUCH!

    • @zacharythomason7359
      @zacharythomason7359 9 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for that info.

    • @newavengerxx4428
      @newavengerxx4428 9 місяців тому +3

      @@zacharythomason7359 Don't thank me. Even I recognize it's kind of useless info in the grand scheme of things.

    • @alreyes8393
      @alreyes8393 9 місяців тому

      Goldberg's streak should've ended at Halloween Havoc vs DDP

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 9 місяців тому

      This is a insult

  • @camwatson9172
    @camwatson9172 9 місяців тому +7

    WCW cruiserweight division always blew the WWFS light heavyweight division out of the park

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      My friends would always say...
      if you wanted a good match you watched WCW, if you wanted a good soap opera you watch WWF, and if you wanted violence you watch ECW. 😂

  • @rustykuntz94
    @rustykuntz94 9 місяців тому +21

    Agreed it was terrible to have Easy E go over Flair while at the same time it was so predictable how this one ended. WCW’s continues downward spiral as we go into 99

    • @DBoy38
      @DBoy38 9 місяців тому +7

      Not to mention, in the end, Bischoff's win meant nothing as Flair would end up winning the rematch the following night's Nitro.

    • @mizer9510
      @mizer9510 9 місяців тому +2

      @@DBoy38Yeah Flair got his revenge

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      ​@@mizer9510
      It was so awesome....
      but just for that 1 night. 😂

  • @loboneiner1034
    @loboneiner1034 9 місяців тому +21

    Seems like every Starrcade did something to hurt WCW since Hogan joined

  • @reeseangle9621
    @reeseangle9621 9 місяців тому +3

    Man I loved Jericho in 98 WCW had so many great wrestling moments

  • @Baloothepibble
    @Baloothepibble 9 місяців тому +24

    This is it! This is when I went from a WCW kid to a WWF man.

    • @mizer9510
      @mizer9510 9 місяців тому +5

      For me it was a couple of weeks later, and then when Benoit, Guerrero, Malenko, and Saturn switched I never watched Nitro again.

    • @gp.5989
      @gp.5989 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@mizer9510 I'm in the same boat. I grew up a WWF fan, but watched Nitro too because of my Dad. He would be in charge of flipping back amd forth. After this, there wasn't much flipping back.

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      ​@@mizer9510
      They lost something great in Saturn.
      Highly underrated or underused.

  • @illmerica322
    @illmerica322 9 місяців тому +2

    Wcw cruiserweight title was such a fun title back then... im getting all nostalgic from seeing these wrestlers when they were young... December 98 i was 11 about to turn 12...wow i miss those days, used to love nwo

  • @grandmastermario3695
    @grandmastermario3695 9 місяців тому +2

    In wrestling all undefeated streaks, have to come to an end eventually.

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      Isn't David Arquette still undefeated at 1 & 0 😂

  • @raedvalenzuela5085
    @raedvalenzuela5085 9 місяців тому +3

    Geez, and now is the beginning of the end for WCW.
    Looking back on all this, it’s starting to become depressing in Reliving the War

  • @creamreviews1607
    @creamreviews1607 9 місяців тому +14

    Look, I know reliving the Wolfpack has been underwhelming in this series, but as a kid, this was the pinnacle for me. I was a huge Kevin Nash fan as a kid and I was very much behind him to take down Goldberg and end the streak to capture the championship.

    • @thisisnotachannel
      @thisisnotachannel 9 місяців тому +1

      I was 17 when this aired... and I was all about The Wolf Pack, and Big Kev beating Moldberg for the strap... I never liked him as champion, and his "streak" was always a joke to me.. glorified squash matches.
      But honestly? At that point in WCW?
      It wouldn't have mattered to me WHO took the title from him... or how. It could've been Norman Smiley... as long as it wasn't Moldberg.

  • @micahhill4786
    @micahhill4786 9 місяців тому +4

    Eddie,Rey, Kidman, and Guerrera really stole the show before the people got their chance to get comfortable to watch. Now the whole Goldberg streak ending, if Scott Hall was in better shape mental set wise and hell even physically because you can tell he was slacking a bit. It’s an argument that he should be the one to beat Goldberg. Nothing against Kevin Nash the crowd was into him winning the title but I think really the people would love for Scott to get his crowning achievement.

  • @brianadkins3880
    @brianadkins3880 9 місяців тому +10

    Wow. What arguably was considered WCW's biggest show of the year and this was the best they did. There was so much talent and so many other matchups they could have went with. Having said that ,I'm glad he didn't completely bury it as he is right about those specific matches.

    • @rustykuntz94
      @rustykuntz94 9 місяців тому +6

      They have Benoit & Malenko amongst others on this roster and they’re not booked on STARRCADE??!!! Insane

    • @Takeabottledrinkitdown
      @Takeabottledrinkitdown 9 місяців тому

      @@rustykuntz94what bret injured ?

    • @ds4life886
      @ds4life886 9 місяців тому

      The biggest show of the year for WCW under Bischoff was always Halloween Havoc. See all the card from 94 to this one (last HH and Starrcade under Bischoff). It is clear the most important ppv between the two. Starrcade was the second PPV for importance, the classic, the granddaddy of them all, but Halloween Havoc was the PPV number one as importance

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      You realize WCW would rather redo the Montreal screw job (again) than put out a good show.

  • @KingSigy
    @KingSigy 9 місяців тому +5

    I think people dislike the Nash vs Goldberg match more for what it did to WCW. After this point, WCW just tailspins until it dies. It honestly never gets better, even if some moments beyond this point are fun. As for Goldberg, I still love the guy. He's not the most technical wrestler and his gimmick did wear thin, but the dude absolutely looked the part of a powerhouse. In the moment, his streak was legendary.

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G 9 місяців тому

      Looking at this 2 decades later, his streak was overrated. The 2 most memorable moments was winning the world title on nitro & his 1 good match vs ddp.. other than just a bunch of squash matches, no good storylines or promos.

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      Well yeah...
      but on top of it
      Nash is a no talent hack.

  • @retepoteil
    @retepoteil 9 місяців тому +11

    I really wasn’t into wcw. But was a huge Goldberg fan. When I found out how he lost never watched wcw again

    • @alexloyola6762
      @alexloyola6762 9 місяців тому +2

      That’s always been an interesting take for me. Not saying you were wrong for choosing to not watch anymore (you ended being right 😅), but I think my favorite stories always came from the chase.

    • @retepoteil
      @retepoteil 9 місяців тому +3

      @@alexloyola6762 I didn’t mind him losing but him losing like that I thought was weak.

    • @alexloyola6762
      @alexloyola6762 9 місяців тому +1

      @@retepoteil Yeah, not the best way to end such a monumental streak. Definitely agree with you there.

    • @retepoteil
      @retepoteil 9 місяців тому +3

      @@alexloyola6762 to me the true end of wcw was when the radicals came to wwf

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@retepoteil
      Not really, if anything it was respectful to his character. It allowed him to keep that kayfabe tank status.
      I know that WCW made a big mistake in 99 by not circling back to Goldberg as champion.

  • @robattewell6087
    @robattewell6087 9 місяців тому +4

    The beginning of the end for WCW

  • @auraofazure
    @auraofazure 9 місяців тому +2

    A few months ago, we were at the peak of WCW.
    And now, we have hit the beginning of the end.
    Strap in. The rest of WCW is going to be a wild ride.

    • @henry7696
      @henry7696 9 місяців тому

      its interesting how it works. pride comes before the fall, but its amazing how suddenly it flipped around

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      But not a roller coaster.
      More like an acid trip. 😂

  • @tsstevensts
    @tsstevensts 9 місяців тому +5

    Shocking. Positively shocking.

  • @michaelreich4827
    @michaelreich4827 9 місяців тому +3

    Starrcade '98 was to "subverting expectations" as The Last Jedi was to "subverting expectations".

    • @tommyfraz.
      @tommyfraz. 9 місяців тому

      Bash at the Beach 2000 has to be Halloween Ends.

  • @cachod2211
    @cachod2211 9 місяців тому +1

    So we got here... what a long way the channel has come, still rocking

  • @brianb99
    @brianb99 9 місяців тому +5

    Paul Wight was so damn impressively athletic in WCW and never got the real push he should have in the WWF.

  • @harsha1989able
    @harsha1989able 9 місяців тому +4

    The Big Show at his physical peak... Wow...

  • @youngtevvwrld3591
    @youngtevvwrld3591 9 місяців тому +5

    Found this on vhs at the thrift store when I was 10 years old. I begged my mom to buy it because I wanted anything wrestling related at the time. She bought it for like $5 and as a kid, i thought it was the greatest thing ever. Watching as an 22 year old adult it’s not so great 😅

  • @mongomongo7664
    @mongomongo7664 9 місяців тому +3

    We are days away after this show I believe Eddie Guerrero has his car crash so happy he survived

  • @matthewdejoy-wm6mr
    @matthewdejoy-wm6mr 9 місяців тому +4

    I always loved Kidman shooting star press, ik he landed awkwardly on a fewvppl but idk it just was awesome looking

  • @hectic105
    @hectic105 9 місяців тому +6

    Totally agree with the Goldberg run being poor and the title needing changed at that point (maybe if he actually worked with Jericho that could have changed). The problem was never that Nash won it (he was super over at the time and was a big enough name to justify it), it’s what they did afterwards that made it all worthless. Nash gets the belt only to just give it to Hogan? Nash basically buried himself in that segment.
    There were so many options they could have gone with, yet they picked what was probably one of the worst that could have possibly been conceived.
    While I was watching WWE more often than WCW at that point, I remember liking that Nash won it at the time since I wasn’t a big Goldberg fan. But yah, they just butchered it, along with Nash’s character, Goldberg, and the belt itself really.

    • @jonathanpeck6112
      @jonathanpeck6112 9 місяців тому +3

      Now here’s the one thing I have never understood about this whole situation is Goldberg and Nash are barely have interactions during the Starrcade 98 build. But pretty much of the build of this is Goldberg are having brawls on Bam Bam Bigalow since he joined the company. I think that’s the reason some people are surprised that Nash broke the streak because they barely interact with. I do have a theory some people think with he barely have interact with Nash because I he beat him at Starrcade . Bam Bam would be his next opponent in the next ppv and some people think if that happened. Bam Bam would become World Champion and break the streak. I wish they could have gone that route.

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G 9 місяців тому

      Even earlier in the year where they made sting wait so long to actually win the belt. Once he won he only held it for 2 months, dropped it to savage, just for the belt to end up back in hogans hands the following night.

  • @AFMountaineer2000
    @AFMountaineer2000 9 місяців тому +2

    Only just realized when he ran down all of the Horsemen being barred, he didn't mention Mongo. I must've forgotten the mention about Mongo no longer being apart of WCW

    • @richardstephens5570
      @richardstephens5570 9 місяців тому

      He mentioned McMichael was escorted out of the arena by police 1:00.

    • @AFMountaineer2000
      @AFMountaineer2000 9 місяців тому +1

      @richardstephens5570 thanks, I somehow missed that

  • @bigpoppajersh
    @bigpoppajersh 9 місяців тому +6

    Ahhhh yes the fresh smell of wrestling bios on a Sunday. All is right again in the universe.
    We all know the random tag team match was a Consession stand/bathroom break for those in the building and at home to get the pizza from the delivery man/oven so they can fuel up for the main event

  • @louisvelez40
    @louisvelez40 9 місяців тому +9

    I know the focus is the end of the streak but man I must say Billy Kidman deserves his flowers for how much of an underrated performer he was. Fun to watch in the ring

  • @KidGravityBeyond
    @KidGravityBeyond 9 місяців тому +8

    “The Death Of WCW”

  • @MrGinja123
    @MrGinja123 9 місяців тому +1

    I don't know if this is Norman Smileys entrance music but if it is then it fits him perfectly 7:43

  • @jbanks979
    @jbanks979 9 місяців тому +4

    The reputation of this show is entirely characterized by what happens about a week later. Goldberg got six months on top with about one year of heat building up to that. A competent company would have used this to make Goldberg a more interesting character….
    I can’t believe we’re here (a trumpet mournfully plays in the background)

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      It's not totally characterized by the next week finger poke fiasco. This PPV ended with another attempt at doing a Montreal screw job copy.
      WCW should have worked on making Goldberg more interesting as you say. Or at least pushed a new star.
      Instead WCW pushed 2 old stars.

  • @yojamesawesomeshow4838
    @yojamesawesomeshow4838 9 місяців тому +4

    Hulk Hogan winning the championship again was the decline of WCW

  • @ham-mantheman-ham634
    @ham-mantheman-ham634 9 місяців тому +3

    Any day wrestling bios uploads is a good day!

  • @benespinosa6725
    @benespinosa6725 9 місяців тому +8

    Awesome Starrcade 1998 review on Reliving the War this PPV Was great Goldberg losing to Kevin Nash was crazy this series is amazing the opening match was fantasic.

  • @DaveFromVh1
    @DaveFromVh1 7 місяців тому +2

    Seeing this live as a kid was so good, I was freaking out at the ending😂😂

  • @brettpritchard265
    @brettpritchard265 9 місяців тому +2

    From this time on WCW turns into a bizarro world version of itself and never finds its way back.

  • @Roodrolf
    @Roodrolf 9 місяців тому +1

    Screaming Norman Smiley.
    One man, one wiggle, and a dream to fulfill.

  • @reylopez8433
    @reylopez8433 9 місяців тому +2

    I didn't hate Goldberg losing to Nash, but the Fingerpoke of Doom was when I officially tuned out.

  • @randomramblings2325
    @randomramblings2325 9 місяців тому +2

    Billy Kidman is vastly underrated in my opinion, very under appreciated as a Ressler he got overshadowed when he went to WWE was just useless cannon fodder when he deserves so much better

  • @galarthenry1450
    @galarthenry1450 9 місяців тому +4

    We almost there JAN 4TH IT’S COMING

  • @FUNKnnFLY
    @FUNKnnFLY 9 місяців тому +5

    I've been doing a WCW watch from 95 currently up to November 99 and honestly when it came to the main event I didn't mind Nash winning, he was the second biggest babyface in the company behind Goldberg in 98 so it made sense to me. I definitely could of done without that cattle prod though.
    Looking forward to you doing 99, I didn't mind the product too much from here to around April but after that the product gets messy fast.

  • @sethkaplan
    @sethkaplan 9 місяців тому +5

    Goldberg undefeated streak being over was shocking 😏

  • @thatguyreiji1045
    @thatguyreiji1045 9 місяців тому +10

    I guess what upsets me between the Goldberg and Nash match is what they did with Nash as a champion and how they never utilized him...And we all know how he lost the title👉👉

  • @maxeybailey718
    @maxeybailey718 9 місяців тому +1

    Re-watching as an adult I appreciate some of these guys from WCW way more especially kdog and ddp man!

  • @furyianz
    @furyianz 9 місяців тому +3

    This ppv was trip at that time!

  • @philminkeesickquayash8988
    @philminkeesickquayash8988 9 місяців тому +1

    The Cat's failed attempt to attack Saturn from behind, had me laughing... I totally forgot about that... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @skullwolfsteam
    @skullwolfsteam 9 місяців тому +2

    We lost the dancing bratwurst and obtained the master of the wiggle wiggle gonna admit Norman is growing on me, he's a good wrestler and one heck of a dancer

  • @dereksather5921
    @dereksather5921 9 місяців тому +1

    This was the very first PPV I remember watching as a kid!

  • @georgemetcalf8763
    @georgemetcalf8763 9 місяців тому +2

    First WCW PPV I watched/bought when I had gotten back into wrestling shortly before Goldberg won the title. Also great version of Goldberg's theme.

  • @alexharvey4345
    @alexharvey4345 9 місяців тому +4

    Time for some more top quality Bios

  • @onjohns1
    @onjohns1 9 місяців тому +2

    I always thought DDP should have taken the title at Halloween Havoc. Then he and Goldberg should have led the charge to end the nWo once and for all.

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      You're not alone.
      I see many say this.
      When you think about it,
      WCW should have had a new star become champion, not Hogan & Flair.

  • @exe2517
    @exe2517 9 місяців тому +6

    Given what happened on the infamous January 4 episode of Nitro, WCW could definitely have benefited more by ending the streak with anybody but Kevin Nash or any other who was part of the disaster that was the Fingerpoke of Doom.

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      Most fans look back and say
      "should have been DDP at Halloween Havoc."

  • @stevenflemons6177
    @stevenflemons6177 9 місяців тому +1

    First off, thank you for what you do. I’ve been watching all episodes from the start of the series. This show holds a special place in my heart cause it was the first live wrestling show I ever attended. I went WILD when Nash pinned Goldberg for the belt!

  • @tomlehmann306
    @tomlehmann306 9 місяців тому +3

    Lex wearing fubu is peak 98

  • @chrisbelos2834
    @chrisbelos2834 9 місяців тому +2

    The Streak ending was bigger than Taker's streak ending at WM.
    End of a era.

    • @Takeabottledrinkitdown
      @Takeabottledrinkitdown 9 місяців тому

      No way, Goldberg was a terrible wrestler and all his matches were squash matches

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому

      ​@@Takeabottledrinkitdown
      He wasn't terrible.
      He wasn't meant to be great.
      He was a rookie tank.
      Nash was a terrible wrestler.

  • @Makoto03
    @Makoto03 9 місяців тому +4

    Very nice! Happy to see Starrcade 1998 covered.

    • @danalong1237
      @danalong1237 9 місяців тому +1

      This is a Tic Tac Dough 2-part question: What was your favorite WCW PPV of 1998 and what was your favorite WWE PPV of 1998?

    • @CurlyFromTheSwirly
      @CurlyFromTheSwirly 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@danalong1237
      WWF? Oh yeah, the one where Austin had the match against Undertaker. 😂

  • @mattberg5315
    @mattberg5315 9 місяців тому +1

    Gonna be a great Review. Shocked to be so Early In the Comments.
    Brother, You made the greatest Series in UA-cam! Thank you So Much.

  • @LongLiveRockAnRoll
    @LongLiveRockAnRoll 9 місяців тому +4

    Right, so we know it's only 2 weeks until the "butts in seats" episode of Nitro. The question for the remaining episodes of Reliving the War isn't "Can WCW win?" it's "how many points can they get between now and March 2001?" I'd be surprised if they made it to double digits in 2000.

    • @ds4life886
      @ds4life886 9 місяців тому

      Well, WWF in 1999 was better, but not so much better...
      2000 I think will be a 52-0

    • @LongLiveRockAnRoll
      @LongLiveRockAnRoll 9 місяців тому

      @@ds4life886 agreed, it was probably the worst year of the Attitude era. Strange because 98 and 2000 were so good.