They Never Forgot The 1960s
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- To support my efforts to create more clips please donate to me at www.patreon.com/allinaday. I am very proud of the television series I made for PBS called Making Sense of the Sixties. I had the chance to spend a year examining my youth and how I became an active member of the 60s generation. If you are from that generation or a child of the 60s, I think you would find the entire series of value. To see my other work visit www.theHoffmancollection.com
Mr. Hoffman, I am a high school teacher and have been using parts of your series for the past 20 years when I teach the decade of the 60's. It has been so useful and students get a lot out of it! I usually have them write response papers to what they have viewed and you can tell it really enriches their understanding. Thanks so much for making it available on-line.
+randy crome Thank you Randy. I would love to see some of those papers. My e-mail address is allinaday@aol.com.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
That is so cool.. wish I had seen these in school
@@merncat3384 My history professor at GSU uses them too!
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Amazing❣
"All we were saying, was give peace a chance"John Lennon. I never felt angry toward our soldier's, but did feel sad for them because i felt they were duped and as the man at the end said, they were disposable. I fought like hell and the army put me thru hell before i was set free to not serve in an unjust war. The only time i would be willing to kill anyone i don't know and never met is if our country was being attacked.
How does it feel to have fought in a war which we LOST?????
There seems to be some need to have a Vietnam Vet Myth of war crazy men being spit on.
@@michaelmeliambro5117 Why are you saying that as if regular people had been given a choice? Don’t you know there was a number system? If your number was chosen you were conscripted/drafted- forced into service and if not stationed Stateside, deployed to Vietnam. If you objected, you were imprisoned. You need to take in more of these productions so you can understand how that war was basically fought for nefarious reasons. How does it feel to think video games are more important than studying your country’s history so you know what you’re talking about?
Thank you for your service. I know when you came back there may have been a lukewarm welcome, but so many of us didn’t know how to feel. It was a confusing and tragic time.
Thank you for your comment. Your lifelong soul-searching is experienced by many from our generation and I made the series in an attempt to primarily speak for those folks who will more ordinary citizens within either famous people or directly connected to the civil rights movement or political causes.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
As a grade-school kid in 1968, I wondered if there was going to even *be* an America left when I would become an adult, because most of what saw in the news was so scary. By the time I grew up, so much had changed that I just wanted to forget what I had witnessed back then and get on with life. This documentary, possible faults and all, illustrates quite a bit.
Native Americans & Vietnam vets went through and are still going through hell.
And they deserve so much better, the richest and most joyous lives possible.
@@johncampbell1152 AB-SO-LUTE-LY!!! xoxo The Clarences
My husband, a Native American fought in the Vietnam War and all these years later, still is suffering because of it. Same with my two Native brothers in law. One was wounded four times and left with horrendous scars, but both we’re scarred mentally. Never the same. No one in the Veterans Administration seemed to give a damn about them and they have remained dysfunctional and in poverty all this time.
@@abbynormal3068 Very, very, very sad. The Veterans Administration should be ASHAMED of themselves! xoxo The Clarences
@gorwell97 thank you for your comments. My team and I spent 2 years creating the series with a perspective that I felt would add value to the 60s generation and their children watching it. I know what you mean about time passing and a chance to reflect. I do that every day and love the resulting awareness is.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
I love these nostalgic films! There is one about grooming I distinctly remember being shown in 6th grade (yes, I’m a “duck and cover” kid). These jaunts down memory lane are great for pointing out how some things in our society still exist- be they negative or positive. We still need to work on ourselves, as the films point out. Thank you for helping those of us who are “of an age” relive some of our most important milestones!
This content is golden
Your accomplishments are really a priceless contribution to history & i thank you for sharing-!!
They basically tried to help the downtrodden. then the media just made them frightening. ignorance just seemed to be the easy way to make easy answers to hard questions. Fear is a powerful force, even today. The one who gave dignity to the movement seemed to me to be Martin Luther King. James Brown gave it some dynamic push. But he certainly wasn't the only one.
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Interestingly enough, my mother became pro-Panther after Dr. King was killed. All older Blacks were not leery of the BPP.
Oddly many black's here in the south have formed their own opinion of the assassination of Mr. King, most tend to beleive that it was a group within it's own political powers that brought about the assassination , being white I cannot be sure of truth or not, in my humble opinion it's a 50/50 chance either way, but one thing is for sure, he talked and taught the truth, and they whomever they may be killed him and perhaps themselves.
My auntie was very fearful of the Black Panthers. She was afraid of white people retaliating or making difficult life even worse. Me, I was pro Black Panthers, but I could never upset her by saying that to her.
Actually the Panthers were taken down fairly quickly because of undercover cops in the organization and snitches. The Weatherman later the WUO almost all stayed out of FBI reach because they learned how to stay underground with safe houses across the country.
Thank you for your response, Milo. very thoughtful and considerate.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
Yoko Ono said "Women are the Niger's of the world." What she meant by that was the fact that every woman was treated as a second class citizen whether the were black or not. This was an off shoot of the protests of the Viet Nam war. We were very mad at America for what we were doing, our policies. I was right in the thick of the protests. I was at Chicago in 1968 and attended Kent State University in 1970 when the National Guard killed four of my friends. I was set on changing what our politicians were doing. I think we succeeded more than we failed. The country changed directions for a number of reasons. I went on to serve four years in the Coast Guard and then worked for 50 years. Now I am old but I am happy.
Quote from Cat Stevens--"Father and Son"--'look at me I am old but I'm happy.' ?
@@brucetoo3294 Yeah, love Cat who I believe became a Muslim. He did "Peace Train" and "Wild World" too. Check out my YT playlist: "1960's SUPER FANTASTIC MUSIC. MIND BLOWING. IT'S ALL TOO MUCH. PUT IT ON YOUR PHONE! NOT "GREATEST HITS" TOP 40. TOP 1000!
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Yoko Ono was out of pocket for that one.. Black people called her out then in the 60's and now. Don't whitewash that.
@@MontiRock Men really objected to that characterization.
@@abbynormal3068 no, Black people objected to it, and they spoke up against them too.
Love this channel. I did a report in college. This shed light to my Asian professor and white staff I had a relationship with. This got me a lot of brownie points and lots of favor by just enlightening them on the movement circa 2011
We are human and we are smart!!!
As one of the last Baby Boomers, I remember much, but from the perspective of a child. My Dad always watched the news, and as a minister, he preached about civil rights and the importance of the connection Christianity needed to make with young people. I was profoundly influenced by Dr. King, and marched alongside my father, advocating for civil rights and positive change, as a young girl. I was also was influenced by the feminist movement, and find little connection between modern feminists and those of yesterday. Many young ladies go out of their way to become highly sexualized, today. I also feel there is little similarity between the BLM movement and Dr. King’s message of the 60’s. Alternately, I see many connections between the conservative ideologies of the present day and those of the hippies. The kids in the sixties were rising up against being put into boxes and categories, among other things. Labels were rejected. There was violence then too, but the motives were completely different than those of today. In addition, I feel that progressives are actually taking us back to the 50’s, a time in which everyone was expected to think a certain way, and questions and differences of opinion were highly sanctioned. So many similarities and contrasts to the “movements” of today. I could go on and on....Great documentary. I wish more young people knew about our nation’s history. They might not make the same mistakes, if they saw that.
Definitely not one of the last you guys are in your prime a lot of you.
Several people from Making Sense of the Sixties were interviewed for the Ken Burns documentary The Vietnam War. I wonder if he used this as a reference?
he did.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
These have been lovely videos Sir. I’m grateful.
Both Jefferson and Lincoln believed that former slaves would never be able to make it in the mainstream of American society. Both believed former slaves needed their own communities offshore.
The integration efforts have benefited African Americans of talent but the average black American still has very significant race related obstacles overcome . Poor whites have their own obstacles due to de-industrialization and the poor whites respond differently.
huh. I've been noticing in the comments that most of these people--non-Black-- were talking about everything except the Black Experience in the 60s.
So why this response crossed out. I said nonBlack people because that's who is ignoring the Black Experience.
Now, I can say that's been majority whitewashed.
I love this series--I am now 76 years old--I LIVED it. But I must say, high-sounding slogans and well-intentioned ideals do not always describe what people actually did in their lives, or what happened to them as individuals then. One example--the feminist movement seemed uncertain about whether they were gay or not--gay people were closeted then. Those of us men dating women or whatever term you want to use for romance--found it common for your mate or date to say "gee, maybe I should be gay" and "there is no such thing as a vaginal orgasm."--That mixture of political and gynecological terminology of that era. Interesting, years later more than a few of these women went on to marry male lawyers and businessmen and aspire to a more affluent lifestyles than their mothers had achieved. Sorry for the irony--us guys were full of shit too, but mostly we wanted to be rock musicians and so on. The songs of Bob Dylan address some of this tension--big ideals vs. real mundane lives and humans' natural tendency for self-justification and hypocrisy--"to live outside the law you must be honest.". Not an easy thing to achieve, eh?
Would like to know what the medieval/indian sounding guitar music with cymbals is? It it in the background or intro in several of David Hoffman's videos. Very moving and nostalgic.
*Am glad he gives music credits to other songs used in his content!
Original music by Ara Dinkjian.
David Hoffman Filmmaker
Would you have a list of the songs played in each episode? That would be much appreciated.
I loved this series, and used to watch it over and over when it first aired. I find it funny that many of my social and political values have flip-flopped since I first wathced this. I find myself agreeing with segments that made me angry or frustrated 20 years ago, and the opposite with some segments I felt in solidarity with. There are some scenes and comments I've never forgotten :))
15:00 so interesting to see this aspect of the debate highlighted. one woman says we should not become like men, in terms of aggressiveness, and the other says "but we are like that"... clearly interrupting her lol. but who is the "gender traitor" the one who asserts a biological role for woman as the fairer sex, and wants to bring respect to her gender by honoring that role, or the aggressive lady who wants to destroy that role thru deconstructionism, which alienates women from nature.
Respectfully, I don’t think you should be the one to define women’s “nature.”
Part 5: Picking Up the Pieces
Unfortunately I do not have such a list.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
Women serve. I was in the Army and men complained that they didn't want us there. They kept saying they had to protect us because we were fragile little bimbos. That's how they were taught. This was around 99 and 2000.
@13:40. Still happening today. Dudes will regularly interrupt my reading, and try to flirt.
Rev. Jim Jones and the Kool-Aid Drinkers. Fuck you idiot
They're lot of things lots of people don't understand. For instance, there are things I don't understand. Who armed the Black Panthers? How did the hippies buy their drugs? I don't need stats to say you don't understand how women in the sixties felt and why they tried to break free. Then, your argument about men dying in Vietnam is valid and nobody is refuting it. Don't be so sensitive, nobody is insulting you. I'm too polite to insult people on You Tube.
Thank God for the Panthers. They showed a way forward. heaven knows Black Lives isn't getting any respect. Maybe it takes guns ?
@str8guerillaz I'm not really acting, I just think you should honor history, even the dark side of it. I mean presidents who had slaves weren't criminals, it's just how it was back there. And really I almost shivered just writing that, but it's a fact not matter how cruel and inhuman it was. And no act is a crime unless it is illegal, so thankfully it is now
@Don Dressel I've always felt that the argument that education would have fixed black problems at that time has always been simply wrong. The Civil Rights Movement, non-violent movement was mostly led by middle class blacks, and well educated ones as well. People joined the Black Panthers and other radical groups, because a lot of young people were getting killed, many times by police officers. How exactly was education going to stop such a thing?
15:45 she literally defined Echo Chambers
The Panthers turned Ronald Regan into a gun control advocate :))
5:50 lmao
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You can't understand those things. It requires hard and deep thinking.
@DerangedRanger1 ...yes many did sell out. Some of us "kept the faith." Having gone thru it all, I now look back and see a lot of shallow, superficial thinking...full of cliches. Not many people looked beyond the slogans they were repeating, and I still see that today. Those who saw the shallowness of popular movements of the 60's helped give rise to the Jesus Movement. As far a the portrayal of the 60's black movements in this vid, I can see how black myths became entrenched. A sad story.
Both of Tupac's parents were Black Panthers especially his mother.
Why he was killed.the "Powers That Be" we're watching him from birth.
And the story goes on and on. God said in the Bible that we cannot fulfill our own happiness. We will never learn.
who were the white minetons
i see it this way. ...in 1774 the Americans begged London to listen to them. London did not listen....what happened because of this crass dismissal of colonial American petitions for fair play?......Exactly! "1775"!! ...therefore, when Washington dismissed the petitions of black folks, what would you expect? .............it seems Washington apparently missed out on history class!
To acerb4......
Wasn't the facts that king George the 3rd and the UK parliament had given about every cossession to the colonies imaginable. Tax exception on everything except they drew the line at British imported tea. George Washington was a major plantation owner using plantation slaves. Slavery had been banned in the UK or British lands. So as Washington was no longer a British Milatry Officer he was obvioulsly threatened by being classed as a criming slaver under the British rule. Most British colonists had a far better deal at the time compared with their British cosins in the very heavily taxed homeland. The tea being taxed was British tea. Not George Washington tea or American tea.
Africans were NOT the only slaves during the colonial times. Irishmen and Chinese were also treated as slave labor.
@@ramonfernandez396 Oh God here we go with the fkng false equivalences again.
Show me the part where the Chinese and Irish weren't under a system of indentured servitude, and were mass CATTLE chattels- PROPERTY of other men, stripped of their identities under an undustrialsed factory farm system?
It took 2 years for this reply, it's only fair that I utter the immortal words:-
"I'll wait".🤡
@@ramonfernandez396 Stay on topic. This section is about Melaned people of color. Everyone else's experiences don't need to be included.
CRIMINAL= POLITICIAN
As a black kid growing up in the inner city I thought the black panthers were cool. And I thought that being a revolutionary was something that was what needed and that these panthers were doing what’s right. The lady in the beginning said the were sophisticated.
The older and wiser I became I am able to see and understand the world differently. The black panthers were not sophisticated, the we’re definitely revolutionary, but extremely violent and stupid for thinking that they could really make a difference in the system by being loud , disruptive and violent. Yea they did some good things for the community and gave people in their neighborhoods protection and opportunity, but they did more bad than good. And they had really bad leadership, know long term plans, I see them as communists, thugs and gangsters, idealists,demagogues. Just like the klan, the Nation of Islam, the Marxist,the Nazis and so on.
@5:40 lost my shit
there are ways in which white men are oppressed. for one thing, there are a great deal of white men living in poverty.
Poveerty sure...but not also because of their race on top of that
Oppressed by who? Themselves? C’mon.
As far as women’s rights, we are still trying to get the ERA passed.
Trump OVERTURNED Obama’s Equal Pay Act that gave women equal pay as men, for doing the same exactly job, in the same output.
Women still make $.79 to a dollar compared to men, and I’ve seen it at places where I’ve worked.
Our president just marched with anti-abortion evangelicals.
So there is still a lot being fought.
And that might be subject matter for another film.
So true!!! :(
BLM
This is literally ahistorical
also at 15:00 another lady interrupts to say "that's why men should become softer". so congratulations feminists, you've produced a generation of soft men, skinny jean vegans and stunted adam sandlers to ride off into the sunset with haha!
Really? That's your take-away from watching this? It's the second moronic comment I've read from you in these comments, both of them are bizarre ignorant opinions about the women's movement... Why are you so threatened by feminism?
wow, now no one talks to or interrupts anyone ever, what an improvement, not. 13:55
The way you interrupt someone reading is pretty important if you don’t want to be rude. From how it’s put in the video, it seems as if the guy just started talking to them as if they were already mid-conversation instead of beginning with, “ma’am, I’m sorry to interrupt your reading” or something else to that effect.
The pure black state would have failed without resistence and so no peace would have been enough .