Its just a mix of hay manure doody wood grass coffee grinds and anything i have laying around or think it would be useful. I am a no tiller for 10 yrs and cover crop everything . Raised amazing soybeans last yr w no fertilizer. Treat all seeds w ryzobia and mycrorizae . 1 field had 100 + soybeans . No till into cereal rye let it mature burned it down chemically . Drilled on 15 at 120 pop . Thats the only chemical used . It flooded out yr before . Drilled a 12 way after water receeded. Everything winter killed but rye . I had 1 plant had 442 pods on the plant . I have pics of it . I want to get compost applied to seeds dry if i can . Its all about the soil bacteria and fungi . Those beans had enough nitrogen nodules at r8 end of growing for 200+ corn .
@@youngredangus6041 Likewise. Great job with your presentation. On the Johnson Su bioreactor, do you think the large woven seed bags could be used instead of weed barrier? I’m getting a large qty of sacks. It would be nice to use them for something
I enjoy all the knowledge, keep sharing. I'm trying to come up with a plan to use compost extract on irrigated hay ground. I'm curious how much to put on it? Mostly gated pipe
I'm thinking about making a port somewhere on the pump but my concern how much would go out the other side of the field and be lost? Or would it be best to apply in the spring the after it's harvested
@@noahmiller6443 We applied a similar solution of a biological, Quantum Growth, by spray onto our 8 acre perennial peanut pasture to good effect just before a rain (to ensure. I'd just estimate it boosted growth of hay production by 30-40%. You might find a chemigator at machinio for injecting with irrigation.
Please tell me if you think my extract process is OK. Small scale. Just my garden. I put my measured Jo-Su compost into a bowl. I pour, from my measured water, just enough water so that the compost is loose in the water, then I agitate it for about 20 seconds. I pour that "extract", through a screen, into my spray container. I put that compost back into the bowl. I repeat this process until the measured water runs out, and by that time the water is close to clear. I don't assume much of the bacteria is stuck to the compost by that time. Do you think this is OK?
@@youngredangus6041 One thing we have on our side here is water. I use to farm around 3,000 acres row crops and 300 acres of tobacco. 2020 wiped me out w row crop. We’ve had so much flooding here in past 5 years. I’m 47 and never saw a flood until 2014. We’re pretty much just vegetable farming now. I’m really wanting to add cows to my farm. I only have 150 acres w plenty of ponds and really good land. I want to do on a small scale what you’re doing w cover crops and cattle. I do plan on growing 100 acres of corn. I’m wanting to grow an early 90 day corn next year and soon as I harvest corn going in and no tilling milo right behind it. It’s usually late December here before we get a frost. I still got all my equipment for row crop farming. Planters, drill, combine, sprayer etc
Johnson Su Pancake mix, is molasses milk and compost into TMR mixer let dry for a few hours flat on plastic then load into planter.....I know I know, it's worth it. We broadcast some with fert spreader to do 40'
Great question Yes it would be. But you can get by using less compost this way and Dr David Johnson and Lance Gungerson both said the best way for the plant to respond is by soaking the seed
@@youngredangus6041 Pre soaking and then spraying in the furrow/or planting hole close to root/seed yield the best results with foliar being the least effective for growth, although foliar is great for pest control, if you have any pests, because the healthier the plant, the less likely for any pests (check out Dr Thomas Dykstra's presentation "Why insects cannot and do not attack healthy plants"
@@falzala It all depends on what compost you have and how biodiverse it is, get your compost tested, and if its great, then in many cases you dont need fertilizer, always test first, try with a smaller plot, with and without fertilizer, adjust accordingly
Triticale Triticale is a hybrid of wheat and rye first bred in laboratories during the late 19th century in Scotland and Germany. Commercially available triticale is almost always a second-generation hybrid, i.e., a cross between two kinds of primary triticales.
this is not a good idea as i see it because of all the fungus and stuff that could be on the compost. it might be too saline for the seed, which in any case does not need nutrients for the beginning. compost applied as mulch inhibits some of the small seeded weeds because they need to see light to germinate. mulch also cuts soil surface evaporation. if you have enough leaves to pile up several inches around plants, you need not compost them. if i had compost for the wheat i would apply it with a manure spreader so long as it was not enough to bury the seed too deep.
All the fungi in the compost is good compost Do you know that much about Johnson Su compost? Also are you aware of Dr James Whites research out of Rutgers University and what he has done with endophytes? Anyway I disagree with you. I really appreciate your feedback and comment I just disagree We did DNA samples on the compost It’s good stuff ua-cam.com/video/BZHVj_GFipU/v-deo.html
Ok so you just make compost tea and inoculate your seed with it. They been doing this for decades already, right? And your saying this is cutting your fertilizer use in half?
What's different is that it's a high fungal compost. It's the fungal networks that allow the plants to make better use of the nutrients already in the soil
I would recomend a spray tip to mist it if possible . Love what ur doing . Doing something similar w amazing results
Awesome what kind of compost are you using?
Its just a mix of hay manure doody wood grass coffee grinds and anything i have laying around or think it would be useful. I am a no tiller for 10 yrs and cover crop everything . Raised amazing soybeans last yr w no fertilizer. Treat all seeds w ryzobia and mycrorizae . 1 field had 100 + soybeans . No till into cereal rye let it mature burned it down chemically . Drilled on 15 at 120 pop . Thats the only chemical used . It flooded out yr before . Drilled a 12 way after water receeded. Everything winter killed but rye . I had 1 plant had 442 pods on the plant . I have pics of it . I want to get compost applied to seeds dry if i can . Its all about the soil bacteria and fungi . Those beans had enough nitrogen nodules at r8 end of growing for 200+ corn .
Also i use well water for compost water
Greencover seed will apply to your cover crop seed. Two year life if kept well as specified. Handy for starting soil web life.
Very good as I worried that it would be too wet for going through the sower
Thank you for being willing to share your successes and mistakes
Yeah man!
It was good to see you at the conference!
@@youngredangus6041 Likewise. Great job with your presentation. On the Johnson Su bioreactor, do you think the large woven seed bags could be used instead of weed barrier? I’m getting a large qty of sacks. It would be nice to use them for something
@@jkirchoff7827
Yeah I think that would work for the sides
How long will this compost extract keep for or does it have to be used right away?
Just subscribed. Love your channel.
Thanks
It’s Shelf life is 4-6 days depending on the temperature outside and if you can get a little air to it.
I enjoy all the knowledge, keep sharing. I'm trying to come up with a plan to use compost extract on irrigated hay ground. I'm curious how much to put on it? Mostly gated pipe
Man great question
Can you make an extract and spray during the growing season.
It would be good for the leaves
You answered the question I had thank you
I'm thinking about making a port somewhere on the pump but my concern how much would go out the other side of the field and be lost? Or would it be best to apply in the spring the after it's harvested
@@noahmiller6443 We applied a similar solution of a biological, Quantum Growth, by spray onto our 8 acre perennial peanut pasture to good effect just before a rain (to ensure. I'd just estimate it boosted growth of hay production by 30-40%. You might find a chemigator at machinio for injecting with irrigation.
Thanks for sharing, God Bless 🙏🏽
Thanks! Where are you from Omar?
Please tell me if you think my extract process is OK.
Small scale. Just my garden.
I put my measured Jo-Su compost into a bowl.
I pour, from my measured water, just enough water so that the compost is loose in the water, then I agitate it for about 20 seconds.
I pour that "extract", through a screen, into my spray container.
I put that compost back into the bowl.
I repeat this process until the measured water runs out, and by that time the water is close to clear.
I don't assume much of the bacteria is stuck to the compost by that time.
Do you think this is OK?
20 seconds doesn’t seem like along time but you might be ok.
I bet the kids were devastated when dad turned the playhouse into a scale house
They love playing in there!
Do you have any info on the amount of air used, and if too much air can kill the biology in the water while its extracting?
Thumbs up Farmers always know how to turn a situation around
Truth!
Thanks for sharing
So, can you give a recipe based on what's learned?
70gall for 500 bushels?
That’s what John Niswonger is doing and it has worked well for him. He learned it from another farmer
Have you applied much JS compost?
I work at FBN awesome hat! ;)
My new favorite channel hands down. I’m all ears 👂 😅
Dude thanks for the compliment! I really appreciate that!
@@youngredangus6041 yessir. Man I appreciate you greatly. You make things easy to understand
@@arfarms5711
Where is your farm located?
@@youngredangus6041 I’m ab 30 miles inland from Atlantic Ocean in South Carolina. Pretty close to NC line. Florence SC would be the closest city.
@@youngredangus6041 One thing we have on our side here is water. I use to farm around 3,000 acres row crops and 300 acres of tobacco. 2020 wiped me out w row crop. We’ve had so much flooding here in past 5 years. I’m 47 and never saw a flood until 2014. We’re pretty much just vegetable farming now. I’m really wanting to add cows to my farm. I only have 150 acres w plenty of ponds and really good land. I want to do on a small scale what you’re doing w cover crops and cattle. I do plan on growing 100 acres of corn. I’m wanting to grow an early 90 day corn next year and soon as I harvest corn going in and no tilling milo right behind it. It’s usually late December here before we get a frost. I still got all my equipment for row crop farming. Planters, drill, combine, sprayer etc
Johnson Su Pancake mix, is molasses milk and compost into TMR mixer let dry for a few hours flat on plastic then load into planter.....I know I know, it's worth it. We broadcast some with fert spreader to do 40'
Thanks for the feedback
Do you have a video to recommend?
@@youngredangus6041 yes Buzz Kloots video on the subject
@@youngredangus6041 ua-cam.com/video/tunH4ETViQo/v-deo.html
@@micksburg
Thank You! Where do you farm?
@@youngredangus6041 Central Canada
Thanks for sharing
So we treat seeds with a fungicide and pesticide before seeding, do you guys do it to and would it kill the JST bio?
I’m sure the fungicide does kill some of the fungus but the response from the seed once it in contact with the fungus still produces exudates.
Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't this be easier to apply in furrow with the drill tanks?
Great question
Yes it would be. But you can get by using less compost this way and Dr David Johnson and Lance Gungerson both said the best way for the plant to respond is by soaking the seed
@@youngredangus6041 Pre soaking and then spraying in the furrow/or planting hole close to root/seed yield the best results with foliar being the least effective for growth, although foliar is great for pest control, if you have any pests, because the healthier the plant, the less likely for any pests (check out Dr Thomas Dykstra's presentation "Why insects cannot and do not attack healthy plants"
@@mirsidorov5112Hi, if we use Jo-Su method, do we need to add fertilizer? Or in furrow drench is enough?
@@falzala It all depends on what compost you have and how biodiverse it is, get your compost tested, and if its great, then in many cases you dont need fertilizer, always test first, try with a smaller plot, with and without fertilizer, adjust accordingly
@@MIRSTROY alright, usually how many times per month we do the application?
Very interesting.
Good info. How did you get it through the drill?
It was dry by the time it got to the drill. Some of the Australians are treating it straight into the drill
Thnx for allowing me to watch you work this out on a large scale. Yikes!
No problem will treat wheat And do it hopefully without any more hiccups and show how that goes
What cover crops would work best inter seeded in to wheat? I was wondering if hubam sweet clover.
Depends on your area
We did red clover
Radishes
Turnips
Why couldn't you inoculate crushed black carbon/biochar and use it to treat your seed?
You probably could. We're planning to try it this year as we have a decent amount of biochar.
Trying to figure out what the name of the winter crop your saying...
beerdestretucal???
#CityFolkQuestion
Triticale
Triticale is a hybrid of wheat and rye first bred in laboratories during the late 19th century in Scotland and Germany. Commercially available triticale is almost always a second-generation hybrid, i.e., a cross between two kinds of primary triticales.
Specifically he's saying "beardless" triticale. Which I didn't know was a thing. All the trit we've grown has been bearded.
@@jacoblandis4535
pawneebuttesseed.com/seeds/triticale-fall-beardless/
seems like a shower head with a fine spray should be attached to the pipe
The plan is to make the extract and put it in our pump we attach to the 4wheeler and spray extract on that
We’re going to hook up a pump on the four wheeler and pump extract onto it as it’s going onto the truck
this is not a good idea as i see it because of all the fungus and stuff that could be on the compost. it might be too saline for the seed, which in any case does not need nutrients for the beginning. compost applied as mulch inhibits some of the small seeded weeds because they need to see light to germinate. mulch also cuts soil surface evaporation. if you have enough leaves to pile up several inches around plants, you need not compost them. if i had compost for the wheat i would apply it with a manure spreader so long as it was not enough to bury the seed too deep.
All the fungi in the compost is good compost
Do you know that much about Johnson Su compost?
Also are you aware of Dr James Whites research out of Rutgers University and what he has done with endophytes?
Anyway I disagree with you. I really appreciate your feedback and comment I just disagree
We did DNA samples on the compost
It’s good stuff
ua-cam.com/video/BZHVj_GFipU/v-deo.html
Ok so you just make compost tea and inoculate your seed with it. They been doing this for decades already, right? And your saying this is cutting your fertilizer use in half?
What's different is that it's a high fungal compost. It's the fungal networks that allow the plants to make better use of the nutrients already in the soil