Advice That ENDS Photography Careers
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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This weeks first episode is looking at all of the terrible advice thats out there for photographers. Be it a hobbyist, professional or commercial photographer. Hopefully you can learn from all of the mistakes I have made over the years.
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@@TinHouseStudioUK ah yes. All the expensive lights you need! 😂 haven’t you shown already that product photography can be done with 1 light and mirrors? Or was that an other channel.
Shot my first ad campaign for a big company in March, having never done anything like that before (Mainly portrait shooter for magazines and art for auction houses). Weird world. Downsides, now that's all I want to do! IT IS ALL ABOUT WHO YOU KNOW. 100 percent valid points in this video.
I’m not sure you meant to dismiss it but assisting, in my eye, definitely helps though. I use to assist photographers who shoot big scale ad campaigns, so when it came to me shooting my own stuff, I had an idea of the level of production, the pressures, time constraints, client expectations etc of that type of shoot.
How do you get into assisting , even if you’re a primary photographer ?
@@killvisionarchives Ask other photographers :)
True ,you may be more aware at what is at cost ,but that doesn't translate into being able to take the needed decisions creatively and producer wise. You get that experience when its on your neck and shoulders
The second one really put me at ease… I was lucky enough to have my first paid gig be a wedding which I covered alone as I tried to get a more experienced photographer to help me out but he bailed on me last minute… was so insecure and anxious but I did it anyway! Ever since I’ve been thinking I need to do some second shooter job but for some reason only ended up securing main and only shooter weddings.. currently preparing for my third one! So what u said the just gave me a confidence boost… thanx a lot for that 🙏🏽
Spot on! The only career advice we got at uni doing photography was “go to London and assist”. No other options or ideas on other routes. Madness.
The advice we need to hear. Not what we really want to hear. LOL. I am guilty of a lot of this. Thanks for putting this out there. Your videos recently have motivated me to get moving and "Crack On" to get the jobs I want to do and know I can totally do. I will be coming back to this video again to motivate me again in the future. Thanks for a great channel and clear real world advice.
Love the studio dog in the background!!
As the old saying goes it’s not who you know, it’s who knows you. What you’re saying is you can take control of the latter point.
I used to fall for the "I just need this"...
I have just moved into FDL Fine art car photography... Shooting with a Canon 7Dii.
I need a camera with Bluetooth, I need a specific diffuser (rectangular and a thicker scrim), and I need a more powerful flash.
BUT, I need to shoot more than what my need for the equipment is. So I find ways to work around these specific hurdles.
Most of all, I need more cash on hand... 😂
This is sooooo right. Most photographers shooting huge jobs know very little about photography or gear. They're good at SELLING their CREATIVE vision and then they hire the best team they can afford to help execute something approximating that vision. And instead of buying a new pack or new camera or lens, get yourself a membership at the SoHo House. It will do more for your business than any piece of kit.
Don't they have around 30000 people on their waiting list? 😂
After having the skill, basic skill, then having "lack of anxiety" of "getting on with it" is a skill, a discipline. Focusing on what is next, what can i do, what can i try, its ok if it goes "somewhat" wrong and keep going is a discipline. Then is a skill, "i deserve " to get this job just because , "i deserve to get paid properly because ...i am a worthy person (human being). These are disciplines that result in the ability to just get on with it , aka "next". And also , finally to be able to "enjoy" , "love" what you are doing. As someone who struggles with these, and has had success , and "sabotaged" it...this so ..far is my" annoying" adventure. It's always good to be inspired by someone who has the ability, discipline, to " just get on with it" . Thank you.
Well done video, I agree with almost all of it other than I still think that assisting is a great training ground. I assisted mainly for two vey different photographers that taught me so much, technically, business and creatively. The main thing one needs to do while assisting is to being willing to quit assisting and go out on your own. I assisted for maybe a couple of years, building my portfolio and then went out and made my on way for some 40 years before retiring. The one thing that was way different for photographers like me when I started is there was very little rentals available other than motion picture lighting. Many an assistant would borrow stuff and or studios from the photographer they worked for, to shoot for themselves. When photo rental shops came it changed everything, Enjoy you channel.
Great content in today's video kinda hit at the right time in many ways. Love you brought the dog in at the end it makes your video more genuine ....more human and not just another cookie cutter video to fill time slot.
Look forward to more
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
I have always found that good people/clients pay for good work. Simple.
It took me quitting and not touching a camera for 6 months to figure this out and have this really sink in. It took me this whole time to figure out what part of this career is actually important to me.
When I quit I sold and gave away all my gear, I kept exactly what I would want to keep as a minimalistic hobbyist.and it turns out that's the only gear I actually need for my career. Everything else I borrow or rent.
It's the work and the people I like, the kit didn't make me any more happy.
another well executed video when you talk I listen 💯
Thank you.
OOOOO DOGGO!!!!!! Such is CUTIE!!!!! Thanks for the vid Scott.
Almost made him his own channel
love the way Teddy(?) was playing in the background
He loves it at the studio
Great stuff, per usual. ❤
Thanks Scott. Nice dog.
lovely doggy.........................................
Has anyone ever started out in advertising work using a micro 4/3 camera?
Why not? Just start.
I use MFT exclusively, the gear is of little concern as long as it can get the job done. Very few people will know the difference.
Don’t get too hung up on sensor size, I have a 6D and a 250D, you can only tell the difference when you pixel peep, and the only people who pixel peep are other photographers
Oh definitely
Love your common sense advice. Just go do it.
Exactly!
Sometimes not "knowing people" is a big advantage, especially when those "people" are looking for something different from what every other photographer is doing.
No excuses
Let me grab what got
So, you like my work?
Lets go!
If there is no need to climb the ladder, how can I get the job of the one at the top ? I'm genuinely asking
It is honest advice. Look and listen to more.
Good points made.
I have a friend who shoots campaigns for big jewelry & makeup companies. He doesn't know what camera he owns.
Well I always crack up when I hear UA-cam advice why you should by the latest tech, or you are a lazy shooter if you use a zoom.
Dog fashion shoot video!!!
Where's the cat?
I think before you can pitch for some big jobs you need to build a standard portfolio and that takes years of taking pictures.
At the end of the day all that matters is having a sweet dog to love you. -- Did I get the gist of the video?
I know some architects that work with some french big wigs.. i asked them if they, the french, do any work, everyone said neaah they don't work at all... then my friend who's the boss of this crew came in and i asked him the same question he said:
fk they work all day, they are at dinners they are at events, they are at meetings they go to parties...
This you have to know someone is low-class mentality.. networking is a job.
I think it is a good idea to get an adorable dog too.
All that light, so that you can use a low ISO.
I love how dogs just think you're the best thing ever. Cats... different story 🤣
Dogs have family, cats have staff.
Unfortunately Bikinilist isn't in Canada :( Booooooo
In my line
I cross fences
So I meet the people and ask for permissions
Wildlife @themadcameraguy
Did you remember the name or channel of that photographer you mentioned?
This is all great advice, especially the "I just need" section. I just found myself in a situation where I almost declined a great opportunity to show my work due to fears of not being prepared and "just needing" many unnecessary things. Then I realized I did not need anything, I have thousands of photos and can most certainly find some to present within 2 weeks and accepted the offer. Now I have my first display at a gallery coming up.
Thank you also for showing us your dog and petting!
I have little choice atm haha
Scott you’re an inspiration ! I haven’t been watching your videos for a few weeks up dating my website with new content and layout etc. etc. so now it’s 6pm ere in Malaysia as the sun goes time to catch on what ya been posting. My view and IMHO is getting to be that pro photography is not valued enough and everyone got a camera in their phone … that said I press on … as I’m really enjoying life taking pictures and doing shoots as they come up… this week end I’m in the hills taking team building event for my wife and off to Indonesia next month to take pictures for a friend and catch some sun before Christmas. Thanks again for sharing your unique quality videos …Part of my website revision project I downloaded pictures (a lot) from my archive captured over last 10 years or so, as I’ve put time in to practice editing I thought May be see if I’ve improved (Think I have ) the early edits are in my option to say lease not very good! Goal to release Website revision October 1 … 😳 I’ve got an ongoing project to complete with the Royal Photographic Society remembering what you say in this video I am probably making it too complicated …. On to your next video ….cheers Scott have a great day and enjoy the weekend.
Just the kick in the butt I need to hear daily! Thank you!!
Teddy's beautiful 🐶
A few years ago, I found myself wondering where the line is to say something is "pro photography," or pro-this or pro-that. But, I long since have realized "pro photography" is when you can actually use what you have. When you realize auto focus works just fine, just make sure the green squares on the tiny cannon point and shoot camera are aligned the way you want them that makes a good shot. Being a pro is when you can know what will look good/work well without even thinking twice. And that takes experience, which means going out and being a goddamm nooby with what you already got. There are limits on what you can do with different "kit," but that's about it, and that doesn't mean you can't still accomplish the goal, the road is just different to get there.
I like those YT shorts that show "noob, semi-pro, pro," where the pro version of a drawing is a stick man, the noob is a wanna-be that actually looks kinda crappy but okay, and the semi-pro is wayyyyy too detailed for its own good. Biggest thing of all is that absolutely nobody knows everything, there is always something to learn even if you are "top of the line pro" so to speak. Maybe I'm wrong on all this, but I don't think I am, and I think your video reflects this.
I was laughing with your girlfriend because I screwed more relationships because I lived my job as a photojournalist 24/7 for 30 years. I had a police scanner at home squawking 24 hrs a day and always had a personal scanner on me.
I flat out enjoy all your commentary, and your 5D MKII shout outs!
This is the best 8 and half mins I have seen on UA-cam in a long time ❤
Does Moggy still come in?
The best advice I could give anybody, it’s just enjoy photography don’t try making it a real job, there’s no big money to be made in it anymore!
100% agree on enjoying it. Don't do it unless you love it. Would also 100% disagree on the no big money left to be made. Both working in the industry and representing photographers I can tell you thats not true.
Good comment tutorial Scott.
Glad you enjoyed it
Awwe best part was really last
Thanks
Ha ha...I love your advice. The magic of putting off things until you have the kit is that there is always some more kit you'll need. Saves you ever having to do the job!
40 years ago I read something Ive always tried to remember. “As a photographer you should strive to become. Not just to acquire.” I’ve always taken this to mean I should learn how to do something not just try to own the latest and greatest.