Nah sukuna can react to deku speed even if he isn’t faster and is way more durable one hit by deku is out of the question and sukuna can open a domain in less than a second if he truly feels threatened which he wouldn’t.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495Not to be that guy, but also something to mention, deku is already FTL, since he states that gearshift can pack so much power, it is able to bend even the laws of physics, and for you to be able to bend the laws of physics, you do have to be in fact FTL. So sukuna ain’t gonna see deku when he’s already into pieces from a 120% Detroit smash. EDIT: Chapter: 369 is where Deku quite literally states that gearshift at overdrive can warp the laws of physics, but I’m not surprised you Jjk fans are in denial since you know your favorite character who is only city level loses to even a 45% Deku, hell even 2nd movie Deku slams but it isn’t that much of a difference and another hell you don’t even need chapter 369 Deku. Also Deku was able to keep going against a tireless shigaraki who could keep up and react to such speeds from Deku. P.S. can’t wait for the “I ain’t reading allat”, or more “sukuna slams with domain” comments to arrive.
D.bunks most recent Deku scale actually has Deku at 1.5 Yottatons of TNT which is planetary level. That along with the manga statements of Shigaraki being able to destroy the planet confirms Deku as a planetary level character. Another confirmation that Deku is planetary+, is in My Hero Academia, chapter 424, a few days after Deku killed Shigaraki and All For One, Meryl (a meteorologist in Washington state, America), was giving the weekly weather forecast and she said “AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT CLEAR, SUNNY SKIES ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.” “… SO I’D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING SO OFF THE MARK, WE WERE ANTICIPATING A WEEK OF STORMY WEATHER ...” In Meryl’s first sentence, she was referring to the wind pressure from Deku’s punch being so powerful that it traveled to America from Japan, and completely negated the severe stormy weather that the Todoroki family created that America was experiencing. Just like that, Deku’s punch brought America clears skies and completely changed the weather from across the planet. Meryl continues to say … “BUT HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS OUT THERE, FOLKS … AS WE ARE EXPECTING SOME STRONG WINDS.” “YES, THE GUST THAT BLEW THAT DAY … CAME IN THE WAKE OF A GREAT BATTLE.” “STAY TUNED FOR UPDATES ON WHAT SORT OF EFFECTS WE'LL BE SEEING FROM THAT.” Then the next image we see is Deku’s fist in an upper cut pose towards the sky with the clouds parted. So not only did the wind pressure from Deku’s punch travel to America from Japan and completely negate the stormy weather in America, but it also could be felt for consecutive days in America, AND Meryl said that she is still expecting the winds to pick up from that punch and continue to be felt for additional consecutive days! If you look at the world map, you see that Japan and America sit almost completely polar opposite of each other on each respective ends of the earth. That means that the wind pressure from Deku’s punch has to pass all 6 other continents before it even reaches the 7th continent (America), that’s a casual planetary+ feat. Keep in mind that this version of Deku had already lost one for all and ever other users quirk, he was severely weakened, and he wasn’t able to output a 100% smash, he was only able to deliver a weakened smash due to the last remaining embers in his body, just like weakened All Might vs All For One in season 3. So imagine if Deku performed that same smash at 100% OFA strength + the 5X multiplier Overdrive would add.
Well technically it also up scales All might. As it states it's the power of thr 8th with just a tad of Dekus. Meaning Prime AM was mult Continental maybe moon and 120 Deku possible moon to planetary.
@@Mach_the_Man Probably because he's not even using a true 100% right now in the anime. He's currently has 45 percent he hasn't reached his full power yet which is mind boggling. So to simulate All Might level of strength he uses Fajin and gearshift to go beyond. Your bot far off considering Shigaraki was stated in the manga to be able to destroy the planet himself. So Dwarf star - star level.
I like how people just forget about danger sense completely. "You can't see Sukuna's slashes" my ass when bro has built in spider senses Edit: WCS(World Cutting Slash) did not cut the world, it was just a figure of speech as we did not see the worldgetting cut in half, it was only a slight slash in the ground. about ravine type stuff
dagon's domain is an island but it doesnt scale to anything because if domains did gojo would have infinite power since he would be able to make an infinite void
Yeah like... its not... real, y'know? A domain is a pocket dimension. He destabilizes and destroys the dimension itself. That doesn't necessarily mean he could destroy what that dimension contains if it were real.
@@hanako3844you could have said it just doesn't have a barrier but still if domains move at 0.2 seconds then deku can hit sukuna before he usee it sense SOL speeds alone are 670,626,629 MPH and 0.2=3,500 MPH meaning deku can prevent domain expansion
I just wanna say Cleve and dismantle does not dura neg if that was the case it would’ve cut right through yuta and itadorie and in the panel it’s shown that itadori tanks his Cleve and Gojo manage to tank sukuna’s domain expansion even tho it was only for a few seconds the fact that he still had slash wounds which would imply that sukuna’s domain expansion did hit Gojo so that would only mean that Cleve and dismantle does not dura neg
@@BeyondGodverse-z3h it does though as stated during Shibuya I think chapter 119 states he can adjust cleave depending on an opponent's toughness and take them down in one swoop. Also, the things you mention we are forgetting Yuji was actively lowering Sukuna’s cursed energy output with it already being low due to gojo. Also Yuji from my knowledge never tanked a cleave I remember when Higuruma was alive his cleave was actually very fatal to Yuji and he was down for a bit until he healed with rct. With gojo he was using simple domain and rct so he wouldn’t die to the domain. So yea Cleave is still durability negation
@@Grim_Vs it doesn’t neg dura,sure yuji did use rct but still even after the first Cleve and dismantle he still wasn’t able to cut yuji Sure, he can make his attack more potent and stronger but to the point of actually making them strong enough to completely neg durability is a pretty big stretch especially someone as strong as deku
Cleave isn't durability negation. The "toughness" in question is your CE reinforcement. It adjusts to your defense/armor, not your durability/muscles. Btw the adjustment is exclusive to Cleave, since he needs to touch you to know how resistant your armor is. Dismantle takes longer to power up since he needs to chant.
@@BeyondGodverse-z3h Durability negation would be able to take away a set number of HP from you at once, like 5%, 20%, etc. Defense negation only deals as much damage as your body's reinforcement, meaning it's damage is inconsistent and varies from person to person.
Domain scaling isn't that valid when you consider that JJK characters literally can not and have not been show to output that level of energy in their maximum techniques, let alone their punches. We see this with Jogo, who's maximum technique (the logical peak of his ap, *maximum* technique) was only able to output town levels of energy. Sukuna just doesn't scale to Yuki's black hole. Sukuna's vague statement of being the strongest does not equate to him scaling above Yuki's Black Hole, as it's a technique that basically requires her to lose, which would mean that Sukuna being "the strongest" wouldn't apply too it, he can still be stronger than Yuki in general, but not her Black Hole. I don't even know how people interpret "destroy the world as we know it" as Sukuna overcoming the planets GBE in some unknown way. "As we know it" clearly implies that he'd destroy society. If one would continue to argue it means to affect the literal planet, then it wouldn't even mean to destroy it via overcoming it's GBE, as "as we know it" would imply that the planet itself still exists. Overall, his most generous scaling is anywhere from Town-City off of a town level Jogo and a (maybe) City level Gojo. His fastest is MHS, as black flash would be hit without difficulty by MHS+ characters, and he clearly aim dodged Kashimo as indicated by the scratch marks prior to the attack ever being launched. Assuming he's FTL, he's still getting blitzed and one shot. Good video, keep up the good work 👍🏼
Entirely depends on the range they start at.Feku rarely fights full-power,especially to kill someone,and first attacks weaker to gauge the power of the oponent not to kill them. Sukuna goes for the kill the moment he understands the power of his oponent.If they both play around at the begining to udnerstand all the powers each has - Sukuna will pull the trigger first and Domain Expansion+world slash him.Don't forget - Deku might have the power - but he isn't as durable as he is powerful,as his own power makes his body break,so he doesn't scale to his own attack potency. And yea - you can scale Sukuna's speed kuch higher than 3 times the speed of light.You can also remember Kenjaku who was able to activate anti-gravity technoque AFTER Yuki Tsukumo created a blackhole,which already puts him above the speed of light,as even light can't escape a blackhole,and Kenjaku managed to react and activate the technique while already being in the center of it,despite the fact that the blackhole was a surprise attack. Then we see Yuta surprising Kenjaku as well,and this time we see him not wven being able to activate the anti-gravity technique and being decapitated by Yuta,placing Yuta as well at above light speed. And Yuta and Yuji were still unable to keep pace with Sukuna entirelyy. Also - you foget the fact that it was Meguna who after Infinite Voide,200% hollow purple,unrestricted hollow purple,black flash and punches covered in blue,which Hakari,a guy who laughed away his own blown up head,described as "hurting as all hell".This was basically a Meguna a step away form death,as Gojo says,who was able to dodge Kashimo's ligh-speed attack,and he did it while in mid-air,because he can esentiallly fly by kicking the air under him. Heian Era form is magnitudes stronger,as it was able to,even after a serious beating and having half of his CE spent fighting non-stop since the begining of Gojo-fight,to land hits and fight not only against Todo and Yuji with their super-annoying technique,but he was even able to land punches on Yuta in Gojo's body,who was stronger than normal Gojo as Yuta has more CE than Gojo. So yea,you can get Sukuna much higer in terms of speed.
There are things you ignore on purpose. For example, Deku has a danger sense, so he will know it a few seconds before the domain opens. Also, we were told in JJK that cursed energies are bad emotions, and the funny thing is that his danger sense detects them. So Deku will never be caught in the domain because He will know it in advance and will instantly disappear from there. You also said that sukuna can be 3 times faster than light. What is your evidence here? Because in reality, Sukuna is not even at the speed of light. Moreover, even Deku's lowball calculation is more logical when it is FTL + and his speed is unlimited in scaling, which is sourced from the manga. Moreover, even Deku's weakest punch is enough to destroy a city, which is beyond Sukuna's endurance. Unfortunately, These two characters are like waiting for the ant to win in a fight between a lion and an ant. While Shigaraki and Deku are at the Big Country level without even using any quirks, you have a chance to win with a city level character with all their powers. It's extremely ironic that you give
@facter-du6kt did you not even watch the video you are commenting under?The author states that Sukuna is possibly 3 times the speed of light.And I say that this is not the ultimate meta for Sukuna's speed and he can be much higher.After which I start listing all the stuff which can scale him higher - and you ask me "what is my proof?"? Maybe you should learn this fun thing called "reading" before you start trying to debunk something? And no - Deku does not scale to Immesurable speed.And Sukuna even in his 15 fingered state was able to survive his own Fuga without a scratch,with Fuga at shinya being calculated to the power of Nukes dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki,comfortably putting Sukuna above Shigaraki,who didn't die to Nukes only because of regeneration.And at 20 fingers and his true form he should be much more enduring. And if you wanna talk about Immesurable speed - you can get Sukuna there as well,but it will be a wank,so I did not talk about it. Plus - Gojo can teleport.And sense Cursed Energy and Danger better then Deku,as he can literally sense and manipulate space.And he couldn't flee Sukuna's domain.
For this one they both are blood-lusted but if it was in character I think Deku would try to talk to him which would end about as well as it did for Ryu 😭
@@Grim_VsNah Deku wouldn’t, Deku when facing villains only converses when he thinks they aren’t a lost cause or needs something from them, enemies with no remorse or empathy or respect will end up like Muscular or Overhaul.😊
flame arrow gets downplayed by you bc of some current manga inacuracys. like the fact that flame arrow is the max radius of sukunas domains range effects and the debri from it. it makes it ATLEAST 200 meters
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 In the manga known as Deadpool Samurai which to proven it's canon -shows multiple Marvel heroes who have been seen on chapter 1 of my MHA -Spiderman (who's from Marvel) is said by Horikoshi to be Sero's main inspiration for being a hero -this is talked about more in Vigilantes which is Canon to the MHA verse -nothing proves or says it is not Canon at all Anyway, now that we have proven it's Canon to the MHA verse, Thanos (in the Deadpool Samurai manga) has said to be able to destroy Worlds which narratively makes sense to be Planetary and All Might was able to casually one shot Thanos which should make him atleast 3x stronger than what is needed to be Planet Level (2.7 Yottatons) which is 8.1 Yottatons which is Large Planet Level. Prime All Might is atleast 210x stronger than Weakened All Might so 1.701 Ronnatons and Shigaraki in base is stronger than Prime All Might by atleast 2x so 3.402 Ronnatons and with all of his quirks which make him 108x stronger with an extra 12x boost, he is able to output 4.408992 Quettatons or Dwarf Star Level. Deku is able to casually damage Shigaraki without Gearshift and with Gearshift, his Striking Strength should be upped by atleast 5x which makes him able to output 22.04496 Quettatons (Small Star Level) and with 100% OFA, he should atleast be 3x stronger or able to output 66.13488 Quettatons of TNT (Small Star Level) and with his 1,000,000% OFA state which in reality should be around 5,000 - 10,000% of OFA which should make Deku able to output 6.613488 Foe which is Large Star Level at his strongest while lowballing. For speed, Weakened All Might is able to casually dodge Bakugou's explosions which is calculated at 8% the SOL while having power nullifying cuffs on and holding back. We can assume All Might while not holding back should be atleast 5x faster and also assume he's only using 5% of OFA because he said he is nowhere near his top speeds so that'd make 100% OFA All Might should be atleast 8x the SOL with a lowball. Prime AM is atleast 210x stronger and Shigaraki in base is atleast 3x faster than him according to manga statements so 504,000x FTL and with all of his quirks and his Overclcock quirk which boosts him up by 3-10x, he is as fast as 6,531,840,000x FTL and Deku is able to effortlessly blitz him with base 45% OFA and with Fa-Jin which is a 210x travel speed amp and Gearshift which atleast makes Deku 5x faster + 100% OFA, he gets his speed upto 34,292,160,000,000x FTL and with his 1,000,000% OFA ability, he is as 3,429,216,000,000,000x FTL So Deku's Large Star Level with MFTL+ - Infinite speed with Gearshift arguments at his strongest while lowballing
The only thing is deku has fought for his life in most of his battles while sukana stops to grab popcorn while fighting the strongest shiki. We haven’t seen sukana fight for his life yet.
Im a bit late but i would say for sure that sukuna would straight up open his domain in a fight if he knows its a strong oponent with no knowldge of how jujutsu works and would would spam domain expansion especially if he knows he has little to no curse energy and has no domain to counter his domain
Well there won't be a way for Sukuna to tell how strong Deku is until they fight as the way sorcerers usually can tell is by the feeling and amount of cursed energy their opponent has also Sukuna’s domain is slower than Deku’s speed by a lot so its not realistic unless Deku just stands there for the beginning of the fight
I don't see deku surviving sukunas domain, deku would have a very hard time even hurting sukuna because deku lacks cursed energy and sukuna is always reinforcing himself with it, honestly if sukuna caught deku he could just force deku to eat a finger and kill him that way, but the world cutting slash which deku can't see would end deku, dismantles are just invisible projectiles which could at least prevent deku from getting close, he's also able to just make small slashes around his body acting as a barrier of slashes but it might only be around his palms and cleave is just an almost guaranteed one shot unless deku someone fought sukuna how he is right now in the manga where he's so weak he can barely control anything, you can get sukuna really fast if you use the fingers multipliers but that gets way to high as it can be millions of times the speed of light which just seems to be to much, but sukuna is at least several times the speed of light, sukuna has his domain amplification which could help nullify most of dekus attacks but the problem with that is assuming it works on physical attacks and not assuming it only nullifies cursed energy.
Deku wouldn't have a hard time breaking through ce reinforcement seeing as maki with no cursed energy is able to do damage against him and shes much weaker than deku is physically. Sukuna is in no way, shape or form holding deku down to feed him anything,the physical stat difference is way too big. The world slash has been perceived and dodged by characters with danger sense before and cleave would require sukuna to physically tag deku to even use. Getting sukuna to millions of times lightspeed would require him to somehow be lightspeed or even relativistic at 1 finger which is just not true
@@chideraumejiaku3895 just because a finger isn't light speed doesn't mean multiple fingers wouldn't? The multipler for a finger is just high and multiple would make it higher. Maki could barley hurt a meguna who had only 10% of his 15 finger sukuna barrier, sukuna has arguably far higher ap and durability than deku when sukunas not being nerfed, sukuna has far better hax than deku has danger sense can easily be over whelmed, maki dodged a world slash because she saw it coming before he fired it off also she can see him changing and doing hand signs, deku would have no knowledge of this and even if he could sense the slash he can't pin point what's coming towards him he just knows something is but not what until he sees it, a wall of slashes would make deku confuses as he can't see the slashes, a domain with a barrier would kill deku easily which sukuna could easily just get into dekus shadow or pull deku into the shadow and just spawn the domain, dekus only win con is if he can deal enough damage to sukuna, although sukuna can tank planetary plus ap strikes and can regen unlike deku, deku just losses unless he hit sukunas head and shot him which sukuna always has cursed energy acting like a shield around him, and if sukuna feels threatened he can just bomb the area with fuga without deku knowing although dekh would feel the heat, also how deku going to deal with sukuna flying around summoning partial 10 shadows that deku can't kill or what if sukuna uses mahoragas power, deku I getting cooked although I do believe deku solos the rest of the verse besides the top tiers of jjk.
@@thyentity6295 if deku can sense the world slash with his danger sense, then he can dodge it and confusion is not a factor here. And it's not like deku would even let sukuna throw slashes at him cuz deku's feats say that he's at least light speed whereas as sukuna's peak speed would be hypersonic. Meaning deku, with his much higher physical stats would one shot sukuna before he can move or react to deku's attacks. LOL even if sukuna tries to unleash his domain on sight, like as soon as he sees deku, deku would kill him before the words domain expansion come out of his mouth cuz he could sense it by his danger sense. I can't see Deku losing to Sukuna in any world and the main reasons are only two. Being the HUGE gap between their physical stats and also deku;s danger sense which always comes in clutch
@@SungDrip.W00 deku wouldn't even know sukuna is throwing slashes as sukuna and shoot out slashes without moving, confusion is a factor as we've see danger sense get confused multiple times it's not hard to confuse it, the quick search can also be easily confused, sukuna is also above light speed he has multiple feats proving this don't know why people still think he's hypersonic, world cutting slashes might not hit deku if it's just one of them but a whole net of them can hit deku, it's not like deku can see them sure he can sense them but what's he going to do about a domain, sure he can since it buts he's not tanking it nor his he escaping he'll turn around and try to run only to have his everything cut to bits, even if deku hurts sukuna, sukuna can just heal it off, deku has no real healing factor, he does have gear shift that makes him travel at top speed immediately but that can easily be countered if the opponent is aware of this and is observing him which someone like sukuns would do, I think deku can win but he only blitzes sukuna if you high ball him, and deku could maybe hit sukuns hard enough but like deku still has no way to kill sukuna, deku has no cursed energy and if we say he somehow kills sukuna then sukuna can just become a vengeful spirit and deku can't do anything about that.
Even IF you say Deku can see/perceive cleave, dismantle, CE and CT in general due to danger sense, Deku has no answer to any of it. He would go to flick Sukuna and get his fingers cut off
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 Your statement isn’t fully valid because of how Maki used to be able to see curses like Jogo. That means that perception of cursed energy is capable. Deku is just like someone with so much heavenly restrictions that he blitzes very fast. Danger sense doesn’t work on every type of danger. Kusakabe literally saw cleaves and dismantles but still got hit even if able to sense it because sukuna can nullify the spark of an incoming attack. That’s why Maki got blitzed too.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 It’s the same reason why Gojo gets fodderized. Not everything is 100%. That’s saying that Deku is immortal now that he can dodge everything. Like, what
Blud, Mach 3 is the fucking least of his worries. Deku in gearshift is way beyond Mach 3, he is litterally ignoring the law of Inertia. Hell, he can't even use gearshift to it's fullest potential, as it would kill him. Even without Gearshift, Deku speedblitzed a bullet (and if we're talking mach 3 only, Maki fucking reacted to Mai's revovler at near point blank and caught the bullet. The bullet is a blank rubber, but it's still a normal revovler). He is leagues above Sukuna when it comes to speed
Mach 3 Naoya got blitzed by Maki so Mach 3 being the cap of the verse is defo inconsistent. I personally put the JJK verse in the mach 100+ ranges though cause of Hakari vs Kashimo and every battle beyond that point. Hakari changing the target of the lightning strike aimed at his head to his arm won't put him at the speed of lightning, but close enough to where he isn't getting blitzed by that level. Everyone would naturally upscale this in their own way, since Hakari is one of the slower characters post-culling games.
I think deku isnt really getting it. Deku has bum durability tbh, and sukuna can also negate durability, if sukuna just manages to open domain expansion before he dies, its game over for deku.deku cant regenerate and would be torn apart to pieces. He wouldnt even be able to move much in the domain expansion, which also make it a speed equalizer. My conclusion: 50/50. 50% : Sukuna opens his domain expansion, game over. 50% : Deku manages to somehow(via smash ofc)destroy sukuna before the domain is opened, game over.
@@facter-du6kt C A P. Bro was tanking SEVERAL Black flashes from Yuji with almost NO DAMAGE. Do you know How Insane that is? Just so you know, an Black flash elevates the strength of your Attack by ^2.5
@@JustanotherArtist. Dude, Deku can instantly destroy a city with the air from his weakest fist. What are you talking about? Don't mix Sukuna's city level attacks with Deku's multi-continental punches.
Sukuna has a healing factor and deku doesn’t. even if deku would to charge at him with gear shift can’t Sukuna just heal from the attack? Or instead open a 0.2 domain to quickly kill deku? also shouldn’t we use Megukuna? Cus it’s the current version we see in the manga. it would be a much more simpler fight because I don’t think deku could take out mahoraga before he adapts.
I mean if deku just destroys sukunas whole body what's he healing from? Also deku could probably just kill sukuna multiple times before domain expansion could ever occur no matter what even if moho was summoned deku could one tap him and not let him adapt super simple 😅
The newest chapters of mha showed deku was planetary so idk this shouldn't be a topic anymore now I ma stop typing about anime cuss it's so stupid like it's different anime it doesn't matter 🤣
Yeah... No. Gearshift and OFA alone will easily destroy Sukuna. Ignoring laws of Inertia is broken beyond belief. Combine that with Fa jin, Sukuna won't even be able to react
How's Sukuna gonna regen if his head is blown off? How is he gonna regen if Deku makes him barf up all of his fingers with one good kick to the stomach? How is he gonna regen when he's pummeled to oblivion?
@@thedarknessinthelight9824have you seen his durability in the manga. He’s gonna use his anti-deku technique. The technique he hasn’t used since the heian era
@@fallingdevilglazer me personally jjk caps at around country but Deku has moon and planetary metas that are not too unreasonable so even if u use the crappy scaling in this vid and say sukuna is planetary it still doesn’t matter
@@Grim_Vs You really fell off you let those mid hero fans gaslight your in their bullshit. Literally official statement by Gege in one of the Jujutsu Kaisen volumes back: "In a world where cursed spirits feed on unsuspecting humans, fragments of the legendary and feared demon Ryomen Sukuna have been lost and scattered about. Should any demon consume Sukuna's body parts, the power they gain could destroy the world as we know it."
Well with this version I used he didn't have maho but tbh honest unless I granted Deku cursed energy he would have to just run past Mahoraga and go directly for Sukuna
Sukuna is a killer Deku is not a killer I doubt Deku would stand much of a chance against cleave or dismantle let alone MS because Midoriya cannot perceive it even if he can alter landmasses with punches and can be super fast an IC or even bloodlusted deku just does not have the claws to close a fight with Sukuna and this is being generous at that the best he would do is similar to Jogo and nothing Jogo was doing could reach Sukuna. it would make an interesting fist fight though ngl He would very likely rock the king of curses in a fist fight like almost everyone else that is kinda good and hand to hand. xD
I agree Cleave and Dismantle would be the biggest problem but you gotta remember Danger Sense should be able to detect Cleave and Dismantle and since Deku is faster he should be able to evade them if Sukuna were to pop a domain it would be different but then again since Deku is significantly faster and can make sukuna significantly slower I don't see how sukuna would have a chance to do so
@@Grim_VsJust like Gojo, Sukuna can pop his domain in less than a second, but if you think Deku could get to him in that time then Deku could win if he goes for the head. I feel like Stars and Stripes would be the only one that could beat Sukuna
@@ThatOneDudeZay being ftl+ would make you go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster then under a second this is a guess but if you were going at ftl+ speeds you can reach sukuna in 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds no joke.. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE FTL+ SPEEDS
@@ThatOneDudeZay since by just going at the speed of light alone you can go around the earth 7-8 times in 1 SECOND and since deku is 85.8 times faster then that deku can go up to 600 TIMES AROUND EARTH IN 1 SECOND!
@@ThatOneDudeZay so if deku can go around the earth 600 times in a time thats just barely above sukuna's domain expansion opening time i think its obvious he will instantly blitz sukuna before he can even recite the words :sob:
Why would we use Deku's prime version as example? Pretty sure SF arc Deku is enough for the fodder overrated city-block level mach 3 verse(or in other words - Iida victims)
@@Gamershockzx2"I've had more time to think about this fight, and I believe it comes down to who goes for the kill first: Sukuna or Deku. To me, it's a 50/50 situation. Realistically, I think Sukuna wins due to his Domain Expansion, which he can use multiple times a day. All he needs to do is outlast Deku, because Gear Shift takes a toll on his body and the other quirks. "He has better endurance and durability; he was able to withstand 200% of Halo in purple, and he has reverse curse techniques. Any damage he takes can be instantly healed."
Deku would try and speak and would die from a world splitting slash because Deku never fights unless provoked or needed, with that cleave or dismantle would do exactly the same and since Sukuna is From JJK and Deku is from MHA Sukuna would just say this is a power and understand in nearly a second. Whilst for Deku he’s only grace is danger sense and since we’re using right now manga, Deku has gotten it taken away so he’s dead. And Sukuna wouldn’t use domain he plays with he’s food. He’d need to understand that Deku got a dog in him like Yuji and will have to go serious in a second or he’ll die.
Deathbattles have the following rules: 1) Bloodlusted character with no moral reasons not to kill. 2) Characters are at their peak, if their peak doesn't include abilities they had, said abilities are not considered. If it does, it doesn't matter if they lost them. 3) No talking, all hands.
Here’s my take. If you take planetary sukuna then he mauls. Yeah Deku is much faster but Sukuna has stupid endurance and there’s no way for Deku to stop him from opening his domain. While I do think he can avoid dismantle and the world slash he has no way to survive a domain expansion(no resistance to durability neg or any healing). Also if Sukuna does get a hold of Deku cleave dura neg will hurt him bad lol. But if you use any other scale for sukuna(country, mountain, city) he’s not gonna win as he doesn’t have the durability to last. However the merger gonna give my goat some better feats 🙏
MHA has one of the worst scaling across all shonen, Deku gets unconsentually violated in the ass infinite times over by literally the strongest character in the verse your putting him up against💀
@@TheMaskedNinja_ I know thats why i brought it up as a example for why JJK is worse in terms of scaling due to the inconsistencies (wanted to make sure i worded that better)
@@Grim_Vs UA-camr I don't know the name of I'm not taking you seriously power scallion of mha is absolute trash I bet you Google all this and call it power scaling
“i got hit with the unlimited void”💀💀💀
if your fast enough
Deku blitz lmao
Also his OFA can hit souls.
@@squallthegrieveryea no he doesn’t and no OFA doesn’t
@@Itmightbeshirlonyes he does blitz
@@chrishardin9774 I’m a fan of mha and updated w the manga brother. I still say OFA loses
Sorry for my voice being kinda messed up I was sick when making this but still hope y'all like the video 🤞
What's your recent Deku scaling now?
“DOMAIN EX-“
Deku has taken Sukuna’s head off. That’s it. That’s the fight. The end.
Nah sukuna can react to deku speed even if he isn’t faster and is way more durable one hit by deku is out of the question and sukuna can open a domain in less than a second if he truly feels threatened which he wouldn’t.
@@jonahmclaughlin439
Mach 3 Sukuna vs Mach 3000 Deku. Lmao. That Four Arms bootleg isn’t reacting to a thing.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495Not to be that guy, but also something to mention, deku is already FTL, since he states that gearshift can pack so much power, it is able to bend even the laws of physics, and for you to be able to bend the laws of physics, you do have to be in fact FTL. So sukuna ain’t gonna see deku when he’s already into pieces from a 120% Detroit smash. EDIT: Chapter: 369 is where Deku quite literally states that gearshift at overdrive can warp the laws of physics, but I’m not surprised you Jjk fans are in denial since you know your favorite character who is only city level loses to even a 45% Deku, hell even 2nd movie Deku slams but it isn’t that much of a difference and another hell you don’t even need chapter 369 Deku. Also Deku was able to keep going against a tireless shigaraki who could keep up and react to such speeds from Deku. P.S. can’t wait for the “I ain’t reading allat”, or more “sukuna slams with domain” comments to arrive.
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No, Deku isn’t FTL and he never says that.
@@airknight8390 Deku would kill himself if he tried to use gearshift on it's full potential, his body can't keep up with the speed.
D.bunks most recent Deku scale actually has Deku at 1.5 Yottatons of TNT which is planetary level. That along with the manga statements of Shigaraki being able to destroy the planet confirms Deku as a planetary level character.
Another confirmation that Deku is planetary+, is in My Hero Academia, chapter 424, a few days after Deku killed Shigaraki and All For One, Meryl (a meteorologist in Washington state, America), was giving the weekly weather forecast and she said “AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT CLEAR, SUNNY SKIES ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.” “… SO I’D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING SO OFF THE MARK, WE WERE ANTICIPATING A WEEK OF STORMY WEATHER ...”
In Meryl’s first sentence, she was referring to the wind pressure from Deku’s punch being so powerful that it traveled to America from Japan, and completely negated the severe stormy weather that the Todoroki family created that America was experiencing. Just like that, Deku’s punch brought America clears skies and completely changed the weather from across the planet. Meryl continues to say …
“BUT HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS OUT THERE, FOLKS … AS WE ARE EXPECTING SOME STRONG WINDS.” “YES, THE GUST THAT BLEW THAT DAY … CAME IN THE WAKE OF A GREAT BATTLE.” “STAY TUNED FOR UPDATES ON WHAT SORT OF EFFECTS WE'LL BE SEEING FROM THAT.”
Then the next image we see is Deku’s fist in an upper cut pose towards the sky with the clouds parted. So not only did the wind pressure from Deku’s punch travel to America from Japan and completely negate the stormy weather in America, but it also could be felt for consecutive days in America, AND Meryl said that she is still expecting the winds to pick up from that punch and continue to be felt for additional consecutive days!
If you look at the world map, you see that Japan and America sit almost completely polar opposite of each other on each respective ends of the earth. That means that the wind pressure from Deku’s punch has to pass all 6 other continents before it even reaches the 7th continent (America), that’s a casual planetary+ feat.
Keep in mind that this version of Deku had already lost one for all and ever other users quirk, he was severely weakened, and he wasn’t able to output a 100% smash, he was only able to deliver a weakened smash due to the last remaining embers in his body, just like weakened All Might vs All For One in season 3. So imagine if Deku performed that same smash at 100% OFA strength + the 5X multiplier Overdrive would add.
From the recent chapters he punched him so hard the wind is actually traveling to Japan.
He's officially planetary now.
Well technically it also up scales All might. As it states it's the power of thr 8th with just a tad of Dekus. Meaning Prime AM was mult Continental maybe moon and 120 Deku possible moon to planetary.
W, finally someone with a brain
Thank you for explaining this. I could honestly see Deku being scaled to Star+ levels with 120%. That's just me though.
@@Mach_the_Man Probably because he's not even using a true 100% right now in the anime.
He's currently has 45 percent he hasn't reached his full power yet which is mind boggling. So to simulate All Might level of strength he uses Fajin and gearshift to go beyond.
Your bot far off considering Shigaraki was stated in the manga to be able to destroy the planet himself. So Dwarf star - star level.
Thanks for making this video I understand alot now from both characters ❤
Cleave doesn't dura neg.
Good vid.
Only WCS can because it bypasses the general things in the universe
I like how people just forget about danger sense completely. "You can't see Sukuna's slashes" my ass when bro has built in spider senses
Edit: WCS(World Cutting Slash) did not cut the world, it was just a figure of speech as we did not see the worldgetting cut in half, it was only a slight slash in the ground. about ravine type stuff
Also Danger sense can feel bad emotions and we know bad emotions are curses energies so they cant even scratch Deku if deku cant see them
dagon's domain is an island but it doesnt scale to anything because if domains did gojo would have infinite power since he would be able to make an infinite void
Yeah like... its not... real, y'know? A domain is a pocket dimension. He destabilizes and destroys the dimension itself. That doesn't necessarily mean he could destroy what that dimension contains if it were real.
YEAH and the only exception for scalling domains is sukuna cuz he's domain is open
@@hanako3844literally lmao
@@hanako3844you could have said it just doesn't have a barrier but still if domains move at 0.2 seconds then deku can hit sukuna before he usee it sense SOL speeds alone are 670,626,629 MPH and 0.2=3,500 MPH meaning deku can prevent domain expansion
...i really don't understand anything, this vs battle video is getting more confusing each time i watch one
Is it the scales in general that are confusing or the way I’m presenting it?
I just wanna say Cleve and dismantle does not dura neg if that was the case it would’ve cut right through yuta and itadorie and in the panel it’s shown that itadori tanks his Cleve and Gojo manage to tank sukuna’s domain expansion even tho it was only for a few seconds the fact that he still had slash wounds which would imply that sukuna’s domain expansion did hit Gojo so that would only mean that Cleve and dismantle does not dura neg
@@BeyondGodverse-z3h it does though as stated during Shibuya I think chapter 119 states he can adjust cleave depending on an opponent's toughness and take them down in one swoop. Also, the things you mention we are forgetting Yuji was actively lowering Sukuna’s cursed energy output with it already being low due to gojo. Also Yuji from my knowledge never tanked a cleave I remember when Higuruma was alive his cleave was actually very fatal to Yuji and he was down for a bit until he healed with rct. With gojo he was using simple domain and rct so he wouldn’t die to the domain. So yea Cleave is still durability negation
@@Grim_Vs it doesn’t neg dura,sure yuji did use rct but still even after the first Cleve and dismantle he still wasn’t able to cut yuji Sure, he can make his attack more potent and stronger but to the point of actually making them strong enough to completely neg durability is a pretty big stretch especially someone as strong as deku
Cleave isn't durability negation. The "toughness" in question is your CE reinforcement. It adjusts to your defense/armor, not your durability/muscles. Btw the adjustment is exclusive to Cleave, since he needs to touch you to know how resistant your armor is. Dismantle takes longer to power up since he needs to chant.
@@thedarknessinthelight9824 which would mean it does not not dura neg
@@BeyondGodverse-z3h Durability negation would be able to take away a set number of HP from you at once, like 5%, 20%, etc. Defense negation only deals as much damage as your body's reinforcement, meaning it's damage is inconsistent and varies from person to person.
Domain scaling isn't that valid when you consider that JJK characters literally can not and have not been show to output that level of energy in their maximum techniques, let alone their punches. We see this with Jogo, who's maximum technique (the logical peak of his ap, *maximum* technique) was only able to output town levels of energy.
Sukuna just doesn't scale to Yuki's black hole. Sukuna's vague statement of being the strongest does not equate to him scaling above Yuki's Black Hole, as it's a technique that basically requires her to lose, which would mean that Sukuna being "the strongest" wouldn't apply too it, he can still be stronger than Yuki in general, but not her Black Hole.
I don't even know how people interpret "destroy the world as we know it" as Sukuna overcoming the planets GBE in some unknown way. "As we know it" clearly implies that he'd destroy society. If one would continue to argue it means to affect the literal planet, then it wouldn't even mean to destroy it via overcoming it's GBE, as "as we know it" would imply that the planet itself still exists.
Overall, his most generous scaling is anywhere from Town-City off of a town level Jogo and a (maybe) City level Gojo. His fastest is MHS, as black flash would be hit without difficulty by MHS+ characters, and he clearly aim dodged Kashimo as indicated by the scratch marks prior to the attack ever being launched. Assuming he's FTL, he's still getting blitzed and one shot. Good video, keep up the good work 👍🏼
Deku neg diffs Sukuna and it's not even close 😭
Good video 😊
Entirely depends on the range they start at.Feku rarely fights full-power,especially to kill someone,and first attacks weaker to gauge the power of the oponent not to kill them.
Sukuna goes for the kill the moment he understands the power of his oponent.If they both play around at the begining to udnerstand all the powers each has - Sukuna will pull the trigger first and Domain Expansion+world slash him.Don't forget - Deku might have the power - but he isn't as durable as he is powerful,as his own power makes his body break,so he doesn't scale to his own attack potency.
And yea - you can scale Sukuna's speed kuch higher than 3 times the speed of light.You can also remember Kenjaku who was able to activate anti-gravity technoque AFTER Yuki Tsukumo created a blackhole,which already puts him above the speed of light,as even light can't escape a blackhole,and Kenjaku managed to react and activate the technique while already being in the center of it,despite the fact that the blackhole was a surprise attack.
Then we see Yuta surprising Kenjaku as well,and this time we see him not wven being able to activate the anti-gravity technique and being decapitated by Yuta,placing Yuta as well at above light speed.
And Yuta and Yuji were still unable to keep pace with Sukuna entirelyy.
Also - you foget the fact that it was Meguna who after Infinite Voide,200% hollow purple,unrestricted hollow purple,black flash and punches covered in blue,which Hakari,a guy who laughed away his own blown up head,described as "hurting as all hell".This was basically a Meguna a step away form death,as Gojo says,who was able to dodge Kashimo's ligh-speed attack,and he did it while in mid-air,because he can esentiallly fly by kicking the air under him.
Heian Era form is magnitudes stronger,as it was able to,even after a serious beating and having half of his CE spent fighting non-stop since the begining of Gojo-fight,to land hits and fight not only against Todo and Yuji with their super-annoying technique,but he was even able to land punches on Yuta in Gojo's body,who was stronger than normal Gojo as Yuta has more CE than Gojo.
So yea,you can get Sukuna much higer in terms of speed.
There are things you ignore on purpose. For example, Deku has a danger sense, so he will know it a few seconds before the domain opens. Also, we were told in JJK that cursed energies are bad emotions, and the funny thing is that his danger sense detects them. So Deku will never be caught in the domain because He will know it in advance and will instantly disappear from there.
You also said that sukuna can be 3 times faster than light. What is your evidence here?
Because in reality, Sukuna is not even at the speed of light. Moreover, even Deku's lowball calculation is more logical when it is FTL + and his speed is unlimited in scaling, which is sourced from the manga. Moreover, even Deku's weakest punch is enough to destroy a city, which is beyond Sukuna's endurance. Unfortunately, These two characters are like waiting for the ant to win in a fight between a lion and an ant. While Shigaraki and Deku are at the Big Country level without even using any quirks, you have a chance to win with a city level character with all their powers. It's extremely ironic that you give
@facter-du6kt did you not even watch the video you are commenting under?The author states that Sukuna is possibly 3 times the speed of light.And I say that this is not the ultimate meta for Sukuna's speed and he can be much higher.After which I start listing all the stuff which can scale him higher - and you ask me "what is my proof?"?
Maybe you should learn this fun thing called "reading" before you start trying to debunk something?
And no - Deku does not scale to Immesurable speed.And Sukuna even in his 15 fingered state was able to survive his own Fuga without a scratch,with Fuga at shinya being calculated to the power of Nukes dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki,comfortably putting Sukuna above Shigaraki,who didn't die to Nukes only because of regeneration.And at 20 fingers and his true form he should be much more enduring.
And if you wanna talk about Immesurable speed - you can get Sukuna there as well,but it will be a wank,so I did not talk about it.
Plus - Gojo can teleport.And sense Cursed Energy and Danger better then Deku,as he can literally sense and manipulate space.And he couldn't flee Sukuna's domain.
One word domain deku doesn't know about it and he's a good nature person which would get him killed but yes it mostly matters on how you scale them.
For this one they both are blood-lusted but if it was in character I think Deku would try to talk to him which would end about as well as it did for Ryu 😭
Nah
Didn't gojo tank it 😭
@@Grim_VsNah Deku wouldn’t, Deku when facing villains only converses when he thinks they aren’t a lost cause or needs something from them, enemies with no remorse or empathy or respect will end up like Muscular or Overhaul.😊
@@striker07927 big dawg if city does domain to kill people he's getting the shigaraki war arc treatment
flame arrow gets downplayed by you bc of some current manga inacuracys. like the fact that flame arrow is the max radius of sukunas domains range effects and the debri from it. it makes it ATLEAST 200 meters
deku slams
Tbh deku’s ap can be scaled to planetary too
thank you i did a whole large planetary scale
No it can’t lmao.
It can
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With what feat?
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 In the manga known as Deadpool Samurai which to proven it's canon
-shows multiple Marvel heroes who have been seen on chapter 1 of my MHA
-Spiderman (who's from Marvel) is said by Horikoshi to be Sero's main inspiration for being a hero
-this is talked about more in Vigilantes which is Canon to the MHA verse
-nothing proves or says it is not Canon at all
Anyway, now that we have proven it's Canon to the MHA verse, Thanos (in the Deadpool Samurai manga) has said to be able to destroy Worlds which narratively makes sense to be Planetary and All Might was able to casually one shot Thanos which should make him atleast 3x stronger than what is needed to be Planet Level (2.7 Yottatons) which is 8.1 Yottatons which is Large Planet Level.
Prime All Might is atleast 210x stronger than Weakened All Might so 1.701 Ronnatons and Shigaraki in base is stronger than Prime All Might by atleast 2x so 3.402 Ronnatons and with all of his quirks which make him 108x stronger with an extra 12x boost, he is able to output 4.408992 Quettatons or Dwarf Star Level.
Deku is able to casually damage Shigaraki without Gearshift and with Gearshift, his Striking Strength should be upped by atleast 5x which makes him able to output 22.04496 Quettatons (Small Star Level) and with 100% OFA, he should atleast be 3x stronger or able to output 66.13488 Quettatons of TNT (Small Star Level) and with his 1,000,000% OFA state which in reality should be around 5,000 - 10,000% of OFA which should make Deku able to output 6.613488 Foe which is Large Star Level at his strongest while lowballing.
For speed, Weakened All Might is able to casually dodge Bakugou's explosions which is calculated at 8% the SOL while having power nullifying cuffs on and holding back. We can assume All Might while not holding back should be atleast 5x faster and also assume he's only using 5% of OFA because he said he is nowhere near his top speeds so that'd make 100% OFA All Might should be atleast 8x the SOL with a lowball. Prime AM is atleast 210x stronger and Shigaraki in base is atleast 3x faster than him according to manga statements so 504,000x FTL and with all of his quirks and his Overclcock quirk which boosts him up by 3-10x, he is as fast as 6,531,840,000x FTL and Deku is able to effortlessly blitz him with base 45% OFA and with Fa-Jin which is a 210x travel speed amp and Gearshift which atleast makes Deku 5x faster + 100% OFA, he gets his speed upto 34,292,160,000,000x FTL and with his 1,000,000% OFA ability, he is as 3,429,216,000,000,000x FTL
So Deku's Large Star Level with MFTL+ - Infinite speed with Gearshift arguments at his strongest while lowballing
Deku vs Luffy gear 5 pls
The only thing is deku has fought for his life in most of his battles while sukana stops to grab popcorn while fighting the strongest shiki. We haven’t seen sukana fight for his life yet.
So he wasn't fighting Gojo at full power? JJK fans will try anything in order to make their verse seem strong
Thats because we've seen deku develop, and once he becomes super strong hes fighing people who put sukuna in a sleeping bag
Im a bit late but i would say for sure that sukuna would straight up open his domain in a fight if he knows its a strong oponent with no knowldge of how jujutsu works and would would spam domain expansion especially if he knows he has little to no curse energy and has no domain to counter his domain
Well there won't be a way for Sukuna to tell how strong Deku is until they fight as the way sorcerers usually can tell is by the feeling and amount of cursed energy their opponent has also Sukuna’s domain is slower than Deku’s speed by a lot so its not realistic unless Deku just stands there for the beginning of the fight
I don't see deku surviving sukunas domain, deku would have a very hard time even hurting sukuna because deku lacks cursed energy and sukuna is always reinforcing himself with it, honestly if sukuna caught deku he could just force deku to eat a finger and kill him that way, but the world cutting slash which deku can't see would end deku, dismantles are just invisible projectiles which could at least prevent deku from getting close, he's also able to just make small slashes around his body acting as a barrier of slashes but it might only be around his palms and cleave is just an almost guaranteed one shot unless deku someone fought sukuna how he is right now in the manga where he's so weak he can barely control anything, you can get sukuna really fast if you use the fingers multipliers but that gets way to high as it can be millions of times the speed of light which just seems to be to much, but sukuna is at least several times the speed of light, sukuna has his domain amplification which could help nullify most of dekus attacks but the problem with that is assuming it works on physical attacks and not assuming it only nullifies cursed energy.
danger sense? deku is faster too lol
Deku wouldn't have a hard time breaking through ce reinforcement seeing as maki with no cursed energy is able to do damage against him and shes much weaker than deku is physically.
Sukuna is in no way, shape or form holding deku down to feed him anything,the physical stat difference is way too big.
The world slash has been perceived and dodged by characters with danger sense before and cleave would require sukuna to physically tag deku to even use.
Getting sukuna to millions of times lightspeed would require him to somehow be lightspeed or even relativistic at 1 finger which is just not true
@@chideraumejiaku3895 just because a finger isn't light speed doesn't mean multiple fingers wouldn't? The multipler for a finger is just high and multiple would make it higher. Maki could barley hurt a meguna who had only 10% of his 15 finger sukuna barrier, sukuna has arguably far higher ap and durability than deku when sukunas not being nerfed, sukuna has far better hax than deku has danger sense can easily be over whelmed, maki dodged a world slash because she saw it coming before he fired it off also she can see him changing and doing hand signs, deku would have no knowledge of this and even if he could sense the slash he can't pin point what's coming towards him he just knows something is but not what until he sees it, a wall of slashes would make deku confuses as he can't see the slashes, a domain with a barrier would kill deku easily which sukuna could easily just get into dekus shadow or pull deku into the shadow and just spawn the domain, dekus only win con is if he can deal enough damage to sukuna, although sukuna can tank planetary plus ap strikes and can regen unlike deku, deku just losses unless he hit sukunas head and shot him which sukuna always has cursed energy acting like a shield around him, and if sukuna feels threatened he can just bomb the area with fuga without deku knowing although dekh would feel the heat, also how deku going to deal with sukuna flying around summoning partial 10 shadows that deku can't kill or what if sukuna uses mahoragas power, deku I getting cooked although I do believe deku solos the rest of the verse besides the top tiers of jjk.
@@thyentity6295 if deku can sense the world slash with his danger sense, then he can dodge it and confusion is not a factor here. And it's not like deku would even let sukuna throw slashes at him cuz deku's feats say that he's at least light speed whereas as sukuna's peak speed would be hypersonic. Meaning deku, with his much higher physical stats would one shot sukuna before he can move or react to deku's attacks. LOL even if sukuna tries to unleash his domain on sight, like as soon as he sees deku, deku would kill him before the words domain expansion come out of his mouth cuz he could sense it by his danger sense. I can't see Deku losing to Sukuna in any world and the main reasons are only two. Being the HUGE gap between their physical stats and also deku;s danger sense which always comes in clutch
@@SungDrip.W00 deku wouldn't even know sukuna is throwing slashes as sukuna and shoot out slashes without moving, confusion is a factor as we've see danger sense get confused multiple times it's not hard to confuse it, the quick search can also be easily confused, sukuna is also above light speed he has multiple feats proving this don't know why people still think he's hypersonic, world cutting slashes might not hit deku if it's just one of them but a whole net of them can hit deku, it's not like deku can see them sure he can sense them but what's he going to do about a domain, sure he can since it buts he's not tanking it nor his he escaping he'll turn around and try to run only to have his everything cut to bits, even if deku hurts sukuna, sukuna can just heal it off, deku has no real healing factor, he does have gear shift that makes him travel at top speed immediately but that can easily be countered if the opponent is aware of this and is observing him which someone like sukuns would do, I think deku can win but he only blitzes sukuna if you high ball him, and deku could maybe hit sukuns hard enough but like deku still has no way to kill sukuna, deku has no cursed energy and if we say he somehow kills sukuna then sukuna can just become a vengeful spirit and deku can't do anything about that.
Depends how you scale sukuna speed he speed blitz
Even IF you say Deku can see/perceive cleave, dismantle, CE and CT in general due to danger sense, Deku has no answer to any of it. He would go to flick Sukuna and get his fingers cut off
Well, if Maki can, then Deku with Danger Sense can.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 Your statement isn’t fully valid because of how Maki used to be able to see curses like Jogo. That means that perception of cursed energy is capable. Deku is just like someone with so much heavenly restrictions that he blitzes very fast. Danger sense doesn’t work on every type of danger. Kusakabe literally saw cleaves and dismantles but still got hit even if able to sense it because sukuna can nullify the spark of an incoming attack. That’s why Maki got blitzed too.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 I still agree that Deke has good chances of winning tho
@@maxishere9526
“Danger sense doesn’t work on every time of danger”
Provide an example. Lmao.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 It’s the same reason why Gojo gets fodderized. Not everything is 100%. That’s saying that Deku is immortal now that he can dodge everything. Like, what
Sukuna had a mach 3 dodge his attacks. Please.
U know jjk mach 3 has been debunk and Gege Akutmaki admits it's inconsistent.
Blud, Mach 3 is the fucking least of his worries. Deku in gearshift is way beyond Mach 3, he is litterally ignoring the law of Inertia. Hell, he can't even use gearshift to it's fullest potential, as it would kill him. Even without Gearshift, Deku speedblitzed a bullet (and if we're talking mach 3 only, Maki fucking reacted to Mai's revovler at near point blank and caught the bullet. The bullet is a blank rubber, but it's still a normal revovler). He is leagues above Sukuna when it comes to speed
@@Grim_Vsno it hasn't, nobody has any feats that go above like Mach 15 other than Gojo's Mach 255, which Sukuna was not able to react to
Mach 3 Naoya got blitzed by Maki so Mach 3 being the cap of the verse is defo inconsistent. I personally put the JJK verse in the mach 100+ ranges though cause of Hakari vs Kashimo and every battle beyond that point. Hakari changing the target of the lightning strike aimed at his head to his arm won't put him at the speed of lightning, but close enough to where he isn't getting blitzed by that level. Everyone would naturally upscale this in their own way, since Hakari is one of the slower characters post-culling games.
@@w1nther930He can use Gearshift to it's fullest, just not for more than 5 minutes.
I think deku isnt really getting it. Deku has bum durability tbh, and sukuna can also negate durability, if sukuna just manages to open domain expansion before he dies, its game over for deku.deku cant regenerate and would be torn apart to pieces. He wouldnt even be able to move much in the domain expansion, which also make it a speed equalizer.
My conclusion: 50/50.
50% : Sukuna opens his domain expansion, game over.
50% : Deku manages to somehow(via smash ofc)destroy sukuna before the domain is opened, game over.
Deku speedblitz verse in seconds
@facter-du6kt You're forgetting Bro wont Go all out from the start😭🙏
@@JustanotherArtist. Dekus weakest punch is too much for Sukuna
@@facter-du6kt C A P. Bro was tanking SEVERAL Black flashes from Yuji with almost NO DAMAGE. Do you know How Insane that is? Just so you know, an Black flash elevates the strength of your Attack by ^2.5
@@JustanotherArtist. Dude, Deku can instantly destroy a city with the air from his weakest fist. What are you talking about? Don't mix Sukuna's city level attacks with Deku's multi-continental punches.
Please try reaching out to God of the Bible😊( The Trinity😊)
Sukuna has a healing factor and deku doesn’t. even if deku would to charge at him with gear shift can’t Sukuna just heal from the attack? Or instead open a 0.2 domain to quickly kill deku? also shouldn’t we use Megukuna? Cus it’s the current version we see in the manga. it would be a much more simpler fight because I don’t think deku could take out mahoraga before he adapts.
I mean if deku just destroys sukunas whole body what's he healing from? Also deku could probably just kill sukuna multiple times before domain expansion could ever occur no matter what even if moho was summoned deku could one tap him and not let him adapt super simple 😅
The newest chapters of mha showed deku was planetary so idk this shouldn't be a topic anymore now I ma stop typing about anime cuss it's so stupid like it's different anime it doesn't matter 🤣
Yeah... No. Gearshift and OFA alone will easily destroy Sukuna. Ignoring laws of Inertia is broken beyond belief. Combine that with Fa jin, Sukuna won't even be able to react
How's Sukuna gonna regen if his head is blown off? How is he gonna regen if Deku makes him barf up all of his fingers with one good kick to the stomach? How is he gonna regen when he's pummeled to oblivion?
@@thedarknessinthelight9824have you seen his durability in the manga. He’s gonna use his anti-deku technique. The technique he hasn’t used since the heian era
the scaling here is simply very....wrong i can explain if y'all want
True✅️
Sukuna and his verse caps at town
@@fallingdevilglazer me personally jjk caps at around country but Deku has moon and planetary metas that are not too unreasonable so even if u use the crappy scaling in this vid and say sukuna is planetary it still doesn’t matter
@@UltimateUA-camr999I read this wrong Mb if the crappy scaling you’re referring to is the Sukuna section then yea I now cap him at Small Country
@@Grim_Vs its fine even i make mistakes like once i somehow scaled kirby to boundless but now i have more powerscaling knowledge
@@Grim_Vs You really fell off you let those mid hero fans gaslight your in their bullshit.
Literally official statement by Gege in one of the Jujutsu Kaisen volumes back:
"In a world where cursed spirits feed on unsuspecting humans, fragments of the legendary and feared demon Ryomen Sukuna have been lost and scattered about. Should any demon consume Sukuna's body parts, the power they gain could destroy the world as we know it."
How would he be able to defeat Maho, if He can’t vaporize him
Well with this version I used he didn't have maho but tbh honest unless I granted Deku cursed energy he would have to just run past Mahoraga and go directly for Sukuna
He can just punch him? Or send him in space or stop him from moving with Gearshift or vaporise him with his air pressure. Plenty of ways to kill him
Tf the binding vow merchant is not losing to this little boy 🤣🤣
@@sevrinboyer5647 maybe if he sacrifices the ability to not eat ice cream on Sunday he might stand a chance
Sukuna is a killer Deku is not a killer I doubt Deku would stand much of a chance against cleave or dismantle let alone MS because Midoriya cannot perceive it even if he can alter landmasses with punches and can be super fast an IC or even bloodlusted deku just does not have the claws to close a fight with Sukuna and this is being generous at that the best he would do is similar to Jogo and nothing Jogo was doing could reach Sukuna. it would make an interesting fist fight though ngl He would very likely rock the king of curses in a fist fight like almost everyone else that is kinda good and hand to hand. xD
I agree Cleave and Dismantle would be the biggest problem but you gotta remember Danger Sense should be able to detect Cleave and Dismantle and since Deku is faster he should be able to evade them if Sukuna were to pop a domain it would be different but then again since Deku is significantly faster and can make sukuna significantly slower I don't see how sukuna would have a chance to do so
@@Grim_VsJust like Gojo, Sukuna can pop his domain in less than a second, but if you think Deku could get to him in that time then Deku could win if he goes for the head. I feel like Stars and Stripes would be the only one that could beat Sukuna
@@ThatOneDudeZay being ftl+ would make you go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster then under a second
this is a guess but if you were going at ftl+ speeds you can reach sukuna in 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds
no joke.. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE FTL+ SPEEDS
@@ThatOneDudeZay since by just going at the speed of light alone you can go around the earth 7-8 times in 1 SECOND
and since deku is 85.8 times faster then that deku can go up to 600 TIMES AROUND EARTH IN 1 SECOND!
@@ThatOneDudeZay so if deku can go around the earth 600 times in a time thats just barely above sukuna's domain expansion opening time i think its obvious he will instantly blitz sukuna before he can even recite the words :sob:
sukuna true form left the chat
wont save him from a speed blitz
Na bro Deku is actually dead
Your finna get harrased💀
@ Fr
@@RazorArtzX Your evidence = your grandma
BRO LET DEKU GET TO HIS PRIME HE WILL COOK SAKUNA WITH HIS GEAR SHIFT
Why would we use Deku's prime version as example?
Pretty sure SF arc Deku is enough for the fodder overrated city-block level mach 3 verse(or in other words - Iida victims)
@@Someone-dg8qt deku Fanboys here trying to defend this he can win against the sukuna
@@John-wg7wgliterally Deku one taps him before he does anything
@@Gamershockzx2"I've had more time to think about this fight, and I believe it comes down to who goes for the kill first: Sukuna or Deku. To me, it's a 50/50 situation. Realistically, I think Sukuna wins due to his Domain Expansion, which he can use multiple times a day. All he needs to do is outlast Deku, because Gear Shift takes a toll on his body and the other quirks. "He has better endurance and durability; he was able to withstand 200% of Halo in purple, and he has reverse curse techniques. Any damage he takes can be instantly healed."
@@John-wg7wg fair but I think Deku either dodges it with danger sense or is able to use his ofa to slightly outhax him
Deku would try and speak and would die from a world splitting slash because Deku never fights unless provoked or needed, with that cleave or dismantle would do exactly the same and since Sukuna is From JJK and Deku is from MHA Sukuna would just say this is a power and understand in nearly a second. Whilst for Deku he’s only grace is danger sense and since we’re using right now manga, Deku has gotten it taken away so he’s dead. And Sukuna wouldn’t use domain he plays with he’s food. He’d need to understand that Deku got a dog in him like Yuji and will have to go serious in a second or he’ll die.
You must be new to death battles and powerscalers. We don't do all that personality stuff here. If he can do it, he will.
Deathbattles have the following rules:
1) Bloodlusted character with no moral reasons not to kill.
2) Characters are at their peak, if their peak doesn't include abilities they had, said abilities are not considered. If it does, it doesn't matter if they lost them.
3) No talking, all hands.
Here’s my take. If you take planetary sukuna then he mauls. Yeah Deku is much faster but Sukuna has stupid endurance and there’s no way for Deku to stop him from opening his domain. While I do think he can avoid dismantle and the world slash he has no way to survive a domain expansion(no resistance to durability neg or any healing). Also if Sukuna does get a hold of Deku cleave dura neg will hurt him bad lol. But if you use any other scale for sukuna(country, mountain, city) he’s not gonna win as he doesn’t have the durability to last. However the merger gonna give my goat some better feats 🙏
And if you give Sukuna ten shadows(and Mahoraga) I feel like he could outhax even with country scale
They are definitely getting a rematch at the end of the both series
MHA fans be like 💀😂 (always thinking deku is some sort of god lmaooo)
Insane sukuna glaze.
Deku and AM are God's in JJk
@@boi6515 i aint even glazing sukuna, I think hes pretty mid but yall GLAZE deku WAYYY too much
@@squallthegriever I would'nt say gods, more like special grades. I get that deku is strong but he aint THAT strong lmaoo
@@mallberrypie1633 strong enough to move faster then light strong enough to smash sukunas face sukuna cant do shit
If sukuna uses domain expansion he wins and if he doesn't deku can maybe one shot
💀💀
Sukuna is mountain lvl fodder
Small city + actually.
MHA has one of the worst scaling across all shonen, Deku gets unconsentually violated in the ass infinite times over by literally the strongest character in the verse your putting him up against💀
How does MHA have the worst scaling honestly I'd argue jjk scaling is way worse tbh especially if you remember the whole Mach 3 fiasco
@@Grim_Vs Gege ended up retconning that admitting himself that it made no sense
@@TheMaskedNinja_ I know thats why i brought it up as a example for why JJK is worse in terms of scaling due to the inconsistencies (wanted to make sure i worded that better)
Do you think MHA is weaker than AOT? 😂 be fr.
@@Grim_Vs UA-camr I don't know the name of I'm not taking you seriously power scallion of mha is absolute trash I bet you Google all this and call it power scaling