I love Mo's point about Doncic vs Jokic. They will literally be laughing their asses off the entire time they're playing each other. It's like whoever takes it a bit more serious may win.
This was a super nice video. Props to you guys👏🏾 One suggestion, I think this would be improved if each one of you has one Veto vote( basically, once, not in the quarters or finals, one of you can say guys, you trippin, this player wins this) I think it would add a nice dynamic to this game. If you like this idea, I summon the power of the comment section to make it visible for the guys✌🏻
@@thialhoinj1971Harden is lazy af defensively on 5 o 5 but ain’t no way you think he’s just gonna let CP3 cook him 1 on 1. I hate Harden but he wins there easily come on now
These guys are underrating size. Joel embiid and giannis are not losing very much here unless someone gets hot. They have good enough defense on the perimeter to stop people and once they get the ball it’s just bbq chicken.
@@jacobvanderhooft2188 there’s actually video of embiid cooking tatum one on one just because he’s bigger. He’s not getting cooked by anyone. Maybe he loses but his sheer size and skill set keeps him in every game.
@@kashootme2083 i just think its more likely that curry can manage out a single steal from jokic then jokic can stop curry. Curry can run circles around jokic and potentially steal the ball a single time. Jokic can just back down curry non stop. End of the day its gonna be who starts with the ball. The only way any of them are losing the ball is if curry can get a steal or if he decides to take a shot and misses.
Don should've mentioned that curry was the steals leader atleast once in his career too. Him stealing the ball from jokic then running laps around him til he eventually wins isn't an absurd idea.
@@ashen0306I prefer Curry here, I think they seriously overrate the value of a post game in 1v1, but he gets steals by having good intuition on the passing lanes. He’s not just gonna wrestle the ball away while Jokic is mid-dribble
Bro there is only some singular players that can defended giannis At ALL Like draymond kawhi And Ad are the three that can match giannis offense with defense
KD vs Giannis is the toughest match-up in the entire bracket. Literally the epitome of skill vs athleticism. Both tall forwards that benefit from size without sacrificing their speed and handles. Most effective scoring bag vs. Most physically dominant. Idk how that match-up got brushed off so easily as it did 😂
@@stachpema452Of course. Bro is dubbed the 'run & dunk' man for a reason. Only guys I can see in contention is Zion and Embiid. But unless zion lays off the doritos, I will still take giannis.
Are we just not gonna talk about the fact that they chose a 38 year old lebron over embiid who just won an mvp, back to back scoring titles and outside of Giannis is the most physically dominant big man we’ve seen since prime shaq
I feel like embiid primarily is a lane driver and a foul getter I mean you look at the stats he legit averages more fouls than PRIME HARDEN, and I feel like Lebron just has that old head every trick in the book on how to get a bucket and Lebron strong as shit to do he’s not just gonna get babied but I feel like it’s a 50/50 on this depends of who gets ball first.
Y’all reasoning needs to be consistent. Y’all think Giannas has a chance against KD due to his “athleticism” but when it was AD vs. Luka y’all disregarded AD. Zion made it far just by his sheer athleticism. AD is just as athletic as Zion & Giannas and has more skills than both. I’m just saying be consistent that’s all. When it comes to 1v1 mentality, skillset, and IQ does play a role too.
41 minutes into the video. Don is the only one that knows 1v1 ball 😂 not Isaac saying Don underrates athleticism when he acted like Doncic vs. AD isn’t close EDIT: Never mind. Booker over Zion is crazy
@@Jordan123151 They’re just friends messing around at the end of the day so I could never be mad, but damn… Booker might be the best SG in the league and all but he should NOT have made it to the finals, that half of the bracket was so incredibly fucked up lmao
yeah they got some interesting takes and donovan saying that MPJ would shoot over BI is questionable but i think don knows 1 on 1 ball the best out of the three of them, isaac seems like he studies a lot of 5 on 5 film and some of what he values bleeds into his 1 on 1 takes
@@stachpema452Never said he was perfect, all three of them said some wild stuff but I think Don made the most sense of the three overall. Thinking LeBron could beat Embiid isn’t that crazy though. You should’ve roasted him for picking CP3 over Harden instead or something
Lets not lie to ourselfs thinking Lebron is beating Embiid. This is not 2k y'all, look Lebron is one of the best drive by players ever but that ain't helping him against Embiid. He may have won a mickey MVP but Embiid is still easily one of the best defensive players to ever play this game, plus his slight handle and his postgame that is easily top 3 in the current league... How is this even a debate?
Im only like 5 minutes in, but these takes are.god awful. If youre half a foot taller than a guy 1 on 1, you have to be absolite trash not to dominate.
episode 53 highlights! 7:44 don loses the debate 14:57 "that's really mean" 23:59 mo casts a spell 30:41 draymond vs fvv 33:33 if steph guarded jokic 38:08 don gives the silent treatment 43:00 don is furious 47:55 jokic vs luka 49:13 jimmy buckets vs kawhi 1:11:41 worst list of all time + the best list of all time 1:32:32 mo really likes ja 1:35:09 don had a flat top?? 1:53:35 mo and don are completely stumped 1:55:35 WU-TANG
There’s not way Giannis loses one on one, the only way to stop him in game is to create a wall of players in the post so he can’t come in like to raptors done in 2019. He’s the modern day Shaq the only one to maybe stop him might be Embidd or AD
Don is the only one here with real knowledge of 1v1 basketball, also Giannis is a great defender on KD, KD gets cooked with no strength against Giannis
Giannis is a not a great isolation defender. He’s solid, but he’s not great at it, but if Giannis doesn’t get baited into taking outside shot, he’s bullying KD. No one is getting cooked, and it’s a lot more back and forth than you’d think. I might take KD just cause I don’t trust Giannis’s b ball IQ to not take a back outside shot.
Luka has 0 defensive game and AD can just use his size. Idk why they think Luka is doing anything against AD except taking his step back 3's and hoping they go in.
damn... I mean... AD will EAT Luka man... I'm an Asian and I hate to see black folks downspeak on white dudes. But Luka ain't winning sxxt. Yes Luka is Shifty and he can play on his own tempo, he has some kinda of size. But he is not that good of a shooter + there is at least 3~4inch difference in height, at least 6 inches difference in wingspan, at least 10 inches difference in vertical. AD will kill most of the guys here in this bracket. Oh then there is PG13 disrespect... Paul George can beat anyone in this league except KD and Kawhi.
U guys should have come up with a system for who starts w ball first. I feel like alot these 1 on 1s would b determined by who gets ball first. Should have done classic rec center rule that players shoot for ball from 3 or something like that. That would have given rly talented guards a chance to win against the centers like giannis.
It’s not really, it’s a 2-3 inch difference AD isn’t a athletic freak and Luka has proven to be A premier top 5 iso player in the nba no matter who’s guarding him
Just by Donnie's selections, I can tell he's like 5'6 lol. I'm like 7 minutes in but CP3 over Harden in a 1v1 is outrageous. And Lamelo over Giannis? Donnie have you ever touched a basketball?
It’s crazy how the Phoenix Suns apparently have the best isolation players in the league but they’re not even gonna make it past the second round round next year 😔 EDIT: Common Clare W
Guys it isn’t that hard to make a good top 20 can I try guys the RIGHT WAY 1. Mj 2.lebron 3.Kareem 4 Kobe 5. Magic 6 . Duncan 7. Bird 8. Hakeem 9.shaq 10. Curry 11. Bill russel 12. Kd 13. Wilt 14. Jokic 15. Giannis 16. Mosses Malone 17. Zeke 18. Kawhi 19. Flash 20. Jerry west, big o, or worthy ( this was the hardest one)
You lost credibility when you though Jalen Brunson would take out Trae. Trae is small but he knows how to guard a guy 1v1, especially in clutch situations as he showed multiple times last year. A big improvement on defense. Trae is craftier, faster, and had a much deeper bag. Don’t be a part of those casuals who hate on trae for no reason and pick guys like Brunson over him who have never made all star when Trae is all star and all nba. It’s not logical.
This entire bracket was built for Embiid. The best scorer in the league. Best post scorer in the league. Offensive and defensive beast. 7ft 2 with handles and a 3 point shot. He would cook old man Bron first of all and clear up the rest of that bracket.
I love Mo's point about Doncic vs Jokic. They will literally be laughing their asses off the entire time they're playing each other. It's like whoever takes it a bit more serious may win.
🤣🤣🤣
This was a super nice video. Props to you guys👏🏾
One suggestion, I think this would be improved if each one of you has one Veto vote( basically, once, not in the quarters or finals, one of you can say guys, you trippin, this player wins this) I think it would add a nice dynamic to this game.
If you like this idea, I summon the power of the comment section to make it visible for the guys✌🏻
That one dude has to hate giannis wtf is his problem 😭😂😭
Mo dressed like a tree💀
Trae young vs Jalen Brunson is crazy
Brandon Ingram has a higher standing reach than MPJ does due to his wing span
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Isaac a warriors hater 😂😂
I don't know how Kareem wasn't in this
Curry is fucking cooking Jokic
I want this but everybody is in their prime
The hate Harden got round 1 was gross. Even in their primes I would take harden over cp3 in a 1on1
Harden is literally a historically great iso player next to the likes of Jordan and they got 38 year old CP3 winning
He got no d and just stup up
harden is the best iso player of all time statistically
the cp vs james harden one is CRAZY
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Cp3 better defender, better overall shooter. Harden has size. It can go either way.
@@thialhoinj1971Harden is lazy af defensively on 5 o 5 but ain’t no way you think he’s just gonna let CP3 cook him 1 on 1. I hate Harden but he wins there easily come on now
@@chernandez212331it’s not that easy have you not seen Cp3 play 1s? He’s a tough cover
harden better fasho
These guys are underrating size. Joel embiid and giannis are not losing very much here unless someone gets hot. They have good enough defense on the perimeter to stop people and once they get the ball it’s just bbq chicken.
Lebron is one of only people stop Embiid but I feel like embiid Giannis kyrie and I give Lebron or jokic top 4 for 1v1
Nah Embiid honestly gets blown by all the time, Giannis on the other hand is probably cooking everyone on both sides
@@jacobvanderhooft2188 there’s actually video of embiid cooking tatum one on one just because he’s bigger. He’s not getting cooked by anyone. Maybe he loses but his sheer size and skill set keeps him in every game.
@@jacobvanderhooft2188 he doesn’t not. This is a 1v1. He can dunk just like giannis. Embiid is good on 1v1. He top 4
@@xJetxLeBron is getting bullied by Embiid
I think they don’t take the size differential into deep enough consideration lol
Ayooo
Of course
Bron is bullying booker for sure
@@ahmedabdelsatar1562 Yeah , that bothered me a bit
@@ahmedabdelsatar1562not at 39
Watching Don and Mo pick Zion over Jokic then immediately flip and take Booker over Zion made me feel like I was having a stroke. Wtf was that lmao
No way you pick 173 year old Chris Paul over James Harden 😭
It's not like James harden is a spry youngster
acting like harden in his prime or something, bro is 34
Steph and Dame being knocked out first round is criminal
How is Steph beating jokic be fr
@@kashootme2083 i just think its more likely that curry can manage out a single steal from jokic then jokic can stop curry. Curry can run circles around jokic and potentially steal the ball a single time. Jokic can just back down curry non stop. End of the day its gonna be who starts with the ball. The only way any of them are losing the ball is if curry can get a steal or if he decides to take a shot and misses.
Don should've mentioned that curry was the steals leader atleast once in his career too. Him stealing the ball from jokic then running laps around him til he eventually wins isn't an absurd idea.
@@ashen0306I prefer Curry here, I think they seriously overrate the value of a post game in 1v1, but he gets steals by having good intuition on the passing lanes. He’s not just gonna wrestle the ball away while Jokic is mid-dribble
@@kashootme2083you be fr it’s who gets ball first wins jokic is not keeping up with Steph at all and steph can’t guard jokic
Donovan was right so many times and just got denied
I don't see how Giannis can be stopped in a 1v1 scenario.
Same lol -Isaac
If they’re shooting for who starts with ball, some of the best iso guards in the league could probably go on an unanswered run for the dub
Bro there is only some singular players that can defended giannis At ALL
Like draymond kawhi And Ad are the three that can match giannis offense with defense
Yeah I guess AD would fare well against him.@@NormalFootyFan
@@thehomebrewer816 imagine giannis had Jokic post moves and mind like the ability to throw dimes
Y'all are the only basketball podcast I frequently listen to. Keep it up 🔥
Same
Gotta expand
KD vs Giannis is the toughest match-up in the entire bracket. Literally the epitome of skill vs athleticism. Both tall forwards that benefit from size without sacrificing their speed and handles. Most effective scoring bag vs. Most physically dominant. Idk how that match-up got brushed off so easily as it did 😂
giannis most physically dominant?
@@stachpema452Of course. Bro is dubbed the 'run & dunk' man for a reason. Only guys I can see in contention is Zion and Embiid. But unless zion lays off the doritos, I will still take giannis.
@@ashen0306 ahh you mean right now. Yeah that is true
@@stachpema452 got a feeling you about to rant about shaq is the most physically dominant💀
THERE IS NO WAY JAMES HARDEN LOSES TO CP3
Are we just not gonna talk about the fact that they chose a 38 year old lebron over embiid who just won an mvp, back to back scoring titles and outside of Giannis is the most physically dominant big man we’ve seen since prime shaq
I feel like embiid primarily is a lane driver and a foul getter I mean you look at the stats he legit averages more fouls than PRIME HARDEN, and I feel like Lebron just has that old head every trick in the book on how to get a bucket and Lebron strong as shit to do he’s not just gonna get babied but I feel like it’s a 50/50 on this depends of who gets ball first.
Don backing Zion and disagreeing with Isaac every time is so funny.
Isaac bringing the heat with the drip this episode wth?!!
Someone link this shirt please
Donnovan was cooking something with the drip in ep 50
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Y’all reasoning needs to be consistent. Y’all think Giannas has a chance against KD due to his “athleticism” but when it was AD vs. Luka y’all disregarded AD. Zion made it far just by his sheer athleticism. AD is just as athletic as Zion & Giannas and has more skills than both. I’m just saying be consistent that’s all. When it comes to 1v1 mentality, skillset, and IQ does play a role too.
I mean youre right but hes nowhere near as atheltic or as fast as giannis
Ad is nowhere near as athletic as zion and giannas lol, but he's more skilled.
He is probably more skilled but he is nowhere near as athletic as Giannis. Giannis is faster, stronger, more explosive and taller, its not even close.
This episode was basically Mo and Issac ganging up on donovan
41 minutes into the video. Don is the only one that knows 1v1 ball 😂 not Isaac saying Don underrates athleticism when he acted like Doncic vs. AD isn’t close
EDIT: Never mind. Booker over Zion is crazy
That's pretty much where I'm at. Tough watch. Especially when Isaac wants unlimited dribbles
@@Jordan123151 They’re just friends messing around at the end of the day so I could never be mad, but damn… Booker might be the best SG in the league and all but he should NOT have made it to the finals, that half of the bracket was so incredibly fucked up lmao
@@ClareAmel i mean you think that Bron is beating Embid?
yeah they got some interesting takes and donovan saying that MPJ would shoot over BI is questionable but i think don knows 1 on 1 ball the best out of the three of them, isaac seems like he studies a lot of 5 on 5 film and some of what he values bleeds into his 1 on 1 takes
@@stachpema452Never said he was perfect, all three of them said some wild stuff but I think Don made the most sense of the three overall. Thinking LeBron could beat Embiid isn’t that crazy though. You should’ve roasted him for picking CP3 over Harden instead or something
Lets not lie to ourselfs thinking Lebron is beating Embiid. This is not 2k y'all, look Lebron is one of the best drive by players ever but that ain't helping him against Embiid. He may have won a mickey MVP but Embiid is still easily one of the best defensive players to ever play this game, plus his slight handle and his postgame that is easily top 3 in the current league... How is this even a debate?
Need to see this bracket ran in 2k now
You guys should try this by position so size doesn’t matter
Im only like 5 minutes in, but these takes are.god awful. If youre half a foot taller than a guy 1 on 1, you have to be absolite trash not to dominate.
Yeah ngl durant aint stopping giannis, i think giannis wins it all tbh
Might be a hot take but harden in my opinion is the greatest pure scorer of all time
My man Don is malding 40 minutes into a 2 hour podcast and I fucking love it. This is an all time great episode.
Don malding is an absolute staple of this pod
episode 53 highlights!
7:44 don loses the debate
14:57 "that's really mean"
23:59 mo casts a spell
30:41 draymond vs fvv
33:33 if steph guarded jokic
38:08 don gives the silent treatment
43:00 don is furious
47:55 jokic vs luka
49:13 jimmy buckets vs kawhi
1:11:41 worst list of all time + the best list of all time
1:32:32 mo really likes ja
1:35:09 don had a flat top??
1:53:35 mo and don are completely stumped
1:55:35 WU-TANG
Don’t forget Don flipping 🦢
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@@dodgerblue482hahaaa😂
Don got all the love on the submitted lists. The peoples podcaster
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Don hearted this comment
I agree with Donovan on the Steph vs jokic because Steph is going to do what he did in 2022 first round
There’s not way Giannis loses one on one, the only way to stop him in game is to create a wall of players in the post so he can’t come in like to raptors done in 2019. He’s the modern day Shaq the only one to maybe stop him might be Embidd or AD
Also, they’re really underestimating his footwork. It wouldn’t work to just “stand back” and let him come at you he’ll just spin off
donovan actually cooks in the 1v1 bracket debate, isaac and mo need some therapy dawg fr
aint no way noone put the GOAT Pepe Sanchez on their top list
Scottie Barnes being the worst in the bracket take is wild
Y'all taking KD over Giannis is crazy to me!
curry gonna get a stop against jokic? cmoon bro AD couldnt do that lmao :D
Jokic hit some crazy Harlem Globetrotter shots over AD in the WCFs not gonna lie, no way he can consistently make those
Honestly they did the 2 way guys dirty. Kawhi, Giannis, AD and Embiid could all stop KD in a 1v1 and KD is not guarding shit against any of them.
Best part, we may actually see a KD vs Book 1v1 in a practice. And I would pay money to watch
i think they have played a fun one on one ill try to find a link
can y'all do all time 1v1 bracket
Ooo that would sick 😉
Cant wait to watch this once I get the chance!!!
This channel has increased my ball knowledge, WU-TANG
The 2 hour pod streak has been broken 😔 still the best nba pod right now 💯
I don’t even watch Basketball, I couldn’t tell you anything about most of these players… why do I find these so entertaining?!
True it’s cuz these guys are so reletable and funny
zion and jokic is crazy jokic ran through gobert , AD and bam they’re better defenders then zion yet he can beat jokic ?!?!
Donovan is the only consistently based person on this pod. Still love it though!
Don is the only one here with real knowledge of 1v1 basketball, also Giannis is a great defender on KD, KD gets cooked with no strength against Giannis
Lol ok
The dude that said CP3 is beating Harden?
Giannis is a not a great isolation defender. He’s solid, but he’s not great at it, but if Giannis doesn’t get baited into taking outside shot, he’s bullying KD. No one is getting cooked, and it’s a lot more back and forth than you’d think. I might take KD just cause I don’t trust Giannis’s b ball IQ to not take a back outside shot.
Luka has 0 defensive game and AD can just use his size. Idk why they think Luka is doing anything against AD except taking his step back 3's and hoping they go in.
This episode makes me upset. I'm riding with Donovan
Found you guys through the shorts, stayed for the pod 🗣️🔥
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damn... I mean... AD will EAT Luka man... I'm an Asian and I hate to see black folks downspeak on white dudes. But Luka ain't winning sxxt. Yes Luka is Shifty and he can play on his own tempo, he has some kinda of size. But he is not that good of a shooter + there is at least 3~4inch difference in height, at least 6 inches difference in wingspan, at least 10 inches difference in vertical. AD will kill most of the guys here in this bracket. Oh then there is PG13 disrespect... Paul George can beat anyone in this league except KD and Kawhi.
did donovan just forget that brandon ingram is 6'10 and has a freakishly long wingspan, MPJ is not shooting over him lmao
This logic is crazy because you would take jokic over Steph but luka over ad🤦🏽♂️
Bro y’all we’re flip flopping hard on Don this episode y’all were tripping.
Cp3 over James harden is actually insane
nah
Y'all crazy for picking cp3 over harden and luka over AD like come on how the hell AD is not gonna lock luka ass up. clearly bias pick.
These clowns literally pick cp3 because of 3 dribbles bullshit then considering lamelo stand chance against giannis 😂😂😂
Yo im dead bro mans really put a baseball player in his list at #21
How do they pick LeBron over Embiid... who's stopping Embiid exept Giannis!!!
This donnovan guy is full of bs, giannis is literally built for one on one, 36 yr old kd ain’t stopping him
Luka is only 4 inches shorter than Jokic and will cook him on offense
U guys should have come up with a system for who starts w ball first. I feel like alot these 1 on 1s would b determined by who gets ball first. Should have done classic rec center rule that players shoot for ball from 3 or something like that. That would have given rly talented guards a chance to win against the centers like giannis.
don's ma bro.. everything he said is fax. curry over jokic
Y'all taking Luka over AD is crazy to me!
It’s not really, it’s a 2-3 inch difference AD isn’t a athletic freak and Luka has proven to be A premier top 5 iso player in the nba no matter who’s guarding him
Embiid shouldve won the whole thing tbh. The disrespect is insane. No one on this list can stop his jumper or is big enough to contest him.
ngl shai would beat dbook, he can take him more times than not and his moving shot is too nice
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Just by Donnie's selections, I can tell he's like 5'6 lol. I'm like 7 minutes in but CP3 over Harden in a 1v1 is outrageous. And Lamelo over Giannis? Donnie have you ever touched a basketball?
And a lot of these made me lose brain cells, if this was a UFC bracket they'd probably have all of the flyweights beating the heavyweights lol
It’s crazy how the Phoenix Suns apparently have the best isolation players in the league but they’re not even gonna make it past the second round round next year 😔
EDIT: Common Clare W
Word.
name a better combo than the Suns and collapsing in Game 7 against a pudgy white European guy
Bryson stott a baseball player for the Phillies
Bryson stott is a baseball player😂😂😂😂😂😂 1:09:03
I need to see Don with the flat top
Don was right with most of his takes if not all.
Just saying mahomes made lamelos haircut famous
Those maxey comments aged like milk😂
Great episode yall, run this back with all time top players according to Bleacher Report
mo being mad that embiid was out the whole time when he wss the one to decide to pick LeGrandpa over him😭😭😭
Bro really had a guard from the carver collage cougars at 21 all time 💀
Backed Don the whole vid, nothing but good takes fr
Jimmy vs Kawhi was disgusting 😭😭
Guys it isn’t that hard to make a good top 20 can I try guys the RIGHT WAY
1. Mj
2.lebron
3.Kareem
4 Kobe
5. Magic
6 . Duncan
7. Bird
8. Hakeem
9.shaq
10. Curry
11. Bill russel
12. Kd
13. Wilt
14. Jokic
15. Giannis
16. Mosses Malone
17. Zeke
18. Kawhi
19. Flash
20. Jerry west, big o, or worthy ( this was the hardest one)
Jokic over giannis all time and at 14 is INSANE
I get Jokic is insane and A Great all time player but top 14..
NAH we just started and they already forgot that James Harden is an ISO cheat code
You lost credibility when you though Jalen Brunson would take out Trae. Trae is small but he knows how to guard a guy 1v1, especially in clutch situations as he showed multiple times last year. A big improvement on defense. Trae is craftier, faster, and had a much deeper bag. Don’t be a part of those casuals who hate on trae for no reason and pick guys like Brunson over him who have never made all star when Trae is all star and all nba. It’s not logical.
Curry is 185lbs 6'2, Jokic is 283lbs 6'11
Luka is 230lbs 6'7, AD is 253lbs 6'10
Those cant be compared...
Y’all are entertaining as hell but it feels like every take is the most outlandish thing I’ve ever heard in my life 😂😂
Shit tragic, new patek phillipe automatic (not first nvm)
This entire bracket was built for Embiid.
The best scorer in the league. Best post scorer in the league. Offensive and defensive beast. 7ft 2 with handles and a 3 point shot. He would cook old man Bron first of all and clear up the rest of that bracket.
Donovan I feel ur pain, Ive agreed with you this whole way, I'm just as pissed XD
Derozan take is crazy, Tatum def wins that
Lol so many wrong picks
There were some crusty takes on this Pod but still a banger