When will us Black women be FREE from these unprovoked random attacks on us. The obsession with out hair / face/ body etc and literally existence is so weird....
Not only do they do this because of the normalization of ridiculing and dehumanizing black women but also because they know it'll give them engagement. They want to be edgy, raunchy and anti-liberal so bad and this is the only way they know how, it's pathetic really.
@sarah2172 it is DISGUSTING! Every time I am like, "Where is this coming from?" And I am convinced it is because black women have developed so much fucking strength and resilience through every hardship they have to experience just for being who they are. Other woman get jelous because they don't have it and demean them to look good for their male opressors and men get fucking scared cause balck women are trying to end the oppression! And its even deeper because black women have always not even just fought for themselves but everyone! It is indescribably heartbreaking.
The way they say hateful stuff towards black people then listen to black artists, and partaking in aspects of black culture with no appreciation is wild to me. Its even worse in Asia as its Humongous society and many believe its all just American culture with out knowing the nuisance. (I lived in Japan and im mixed Japanese, so Im just saying in my experience).
My take is that she was FORCED to make this "apology" because the whole time she looked like a preschooler saying "im sorry i hit you" to another child they don't like. Also, If we take her "i read somewhere" statement and flip it to the racial stereotypes of Asian men, would she say it still holds up?? I really don't think she would. Yes she is getting the most "hate" because she's the one who made the decision to open her mouth and say that string of words. There is just so much that shes doing that upsetting me based on just these clips that id be banned if I said what I really wanna say about her and that annoyed look on her face.
"I will no longer bring up any topics that could potentially harm anyone" is very victim-blamey to me. a lot of their wording just rubbed me the wrong way, like they're subtly trying to parody an apology.
No because that was actually the best description of the situation that anyone could have made. She looks like a petulant child that’s angry for facing consequences for the first time in her life
Right. Apology not accepted and have been rejected by many black women. I'm glad and just hope we can ignore and continue acting like they don't exist.
The fact they apologized to her!! ughhhh lol yeah nobody deserves death threats, but she's disgusting. It's always most shameful when I see girls degrading other women.
@@Megabot_6000 ok as a woman myself....what she said was not that bad. She regurgitated a weird theory she saw online...backed by a lot of the same rhetoric supported on po*n. out of all the things to get mad at,..this is on your list really?
@@Ann_T_Socialit’s a great filter for guys too, there’s pragmatic women who know dudes can watch these pods casually for its comedy, and then there’s this girl lolol
@@RedDenim this pod is boring af, I watched a few of their old vids but there's only so much you can watch of the same inane convos. Added to the fact that these guys clearly doesn't care to listen to their guests and settle with being contrarian just for the fun of it.
At 4:27 you can literally see in the screenshot...the very article that dishonestly says "MISOGYNIST men" in the headline quotes Afualo herself saying "because MEN will never stop being terrible" after calling them "human roaches" The one person incapable of differentiating between men and misogynists is Drew Afualo lol
@jjw3046 Read the beginning of that article. "On the topic of idiot men who get a rise out of shaming women" is literally the first sentence. It's very clear who she's talking about. And it's not just regular men.
@@brett8259 Reread my comment and Drew's quote. She explicitly says "MEN" not "bad men" not "misogynist men" Her literal words. Stop making excuses for her @youngrootv "If you're a minority and you don't commit crime then you shouldn't get offended by conservatives calling minorities 'criminals'. It's really not that hard to understand" That's basically your argument
@jjw3046 Read the quote just fine. read the context of the article. The article is specifically about misogynistic men, her quote IN the article is specifically about misogynistic men. Stop trying to hate a woman so badly that you need to make up things.
@@jjw3046all u dumbass shit for brains men know how to do is be purposely obtuse. If u wanna paint her as a villain when in all of her content she explicitly says “shitty men” “insecure men” “trashy men” get ur head out of ur fucking ass. Like Drew also says, hit dogs holler and she got u and all the peabrained, snowflake men like u on a leash 😂
i'm glad someone finally has brought up how people always bring up death threats only when they are supposed to be apologizing to make you feel bad for them so u forgive them- like it is to a point where I don't even know if some of them are actually genuinely receiving death threats, or at least not so many that they need to bring it up during their apology.. like its every single time someone does something shitty now that they bring up death threats
It always feel like it’s an excuse to deflect accountability onto the viewer. Like yeah I said something racist and misogynistic… but you guys are the real bullies for being mean to me so therefore what I did wasn’t THAT bad :,(
You probably don't like this guy, but even pewdipie mentioned that bringing up death threats in a youtube apology is a weak move and is just a way to shiftblame
@@aeoligarlic4024PewDiePie is the only UA-camr I've see genuinely grow tf up out of their edgy nonsense and is now just living life. Man said "I'm over it", had a son, moved the Japan, and started an art channel. I can't hate on that in the slightest.
@@Gabster1990 Names are very important to some people in many cultures as they're part of a person's (family) identity. I really hope you take the time to actually learn how to pronounce the names. I struggle too a lot but I always ask for correction whenever I say a person's name.
I do think an important distinction is D’Angelo is one of the very loud men talking about it. Women repeatedly talk about misogyny but aren’t really listened to by men as much as men listen to other men.
Every culture is misogynistic Asia is not unique in that regard. Let's not stereotype Asian people just like how these Asian podcasters stereotyped Black people.
@@dotdot-s2j Asian cultures are genuinely worse than american culture when it comes to those things (which is saying a lot). South Korea has an incel president, people in Japan will literally be racist to white people, and there is propaganda in China that actually says that black people are unfit for modern society. And most of all, these things are very actively denied by people both inside and outside the culture, which just makes it that much worse.
can we talk about 13:27 cause that shit just felt so passive aggressive to me “i won’t bring up anything that could be harmful to anyone” like????? it’s giving “i guess im just the worst mother in the world”
Also, the idea that she's going to keep believing in shit like this, but won't say it. "I'm gonna keep discriminating against you, but with plausible deniability. ❤"
@@diarawisteria2218It’s also not explicit about what she’s going to stop saying. It’s like when people get caught in the Twitter Time Machine saying something racist, and their response is “I’ve learned and grown beyond that.” The question that needs to be asked, but never is, is “what did you specifically learn?”
@@bobbyray5165 That and, "What did you do, and how was it harmful?" The thing about most of these 'apologies' is that they're blanket statements designed for damage control, not genuine expressions of remorse. What are they actually apologizing for? Offending people? Why were those people offended, and what did you do to cause harm? "Uh...something, I guess, but I want to move on from that."
@@diarawisteria2218 This. Fundamentally, it’s about the optics of growth because what these people are more scared of is the perception of being bigoted and not actually being a bigot.
5:25 idk if im the only one but i hate it so much when someone uses 'man' and 'female' in one sentence instead of saying man and woman or male and female. Like its giving andrew tate and i hate it
5:40 My favorite thing about "Red Pill" ideology is that it's a Matrix reference. People who called themselves Red Pilled are referencing an iconic scene from a classic science fiction film written and directed by a pair of transgender women in which the suave, cool black guy is calmly explaining to the clueless white dude that the world he was raised in is a lie.
It gets more nuanced than that too! The women behind matrix stole that idea from a black woman, an author who also wrote the story that was the blueprint for terminator too!
their comments about the woman's DV experience in korea were sooooo messed up. they literally said "it's your own fault. you have shit taste in men" and then called her a fetishizer for dating a korean man. basically called her racist for saying that a korean man abused her. it was crazy
I mean, that’s basically what this ideology says. There are TONS of these twitter accounts and so forth who say that women “have no accountability “ because if you get abused it’s because you don’t pick a nice guy. Like they actually say this, and it’s shared by tens of thousands.
As an Asian person, I get so excited to see podcasts lead by an Asian cast because it helps dispells stereotypes. I have almost always been disappointed and stopped listening. Asian ppl really have benefited from proximity to whiteness and patriarchy and it shows. This is why I have a hard time being in community with other Asian people.
i knew and watched clips from under the influence and from what ive seen, theyve been pretty cool and i liked what they said and talked about...but watching this im like...wow what happened...maybe its always been bad, i just saw the okay ones huhu
This reminds me of a comment made by a character on the Netflix show "Kim's convenience store". He said to his best friends sister (all of them are Korean Asians, all 3 being first generation Americans I believe) that "Asian girls and white men have the same privilege". I'm paraphrasing, but his point stood in the context of the situation.
Honestly if your name being mispronounced offends you, your skin is too thin and you are too sensitive. Sincerely, a Persian whose name is butchered by every single person who says it
He is making them more famous... Said he was sure it would be our first time hearing about them. And yes, government tax their income from the podcast.
As an Asian, I can say with absolute confidence that those podcasters were not sorry, and they are definitely pulling the "yeah, we shouldn't have said that, but death threats are even worse than what we said, so really, WE'RE the victims" card. They learned that from their parents. Unfortunately, in my experience, Asian family structures are conducive to the development of narcissistic personalities, especially within cultures that uphold Confucian ideals, which state that everyone is either higher or lower in status in relation to someone else, based on age or seniority or formal rank. So that means as a child, you are always subservient to everyone else in your family who is older than you, until one day you have children, and now you are finally more senior than someone in your family, except you were never taught how to be someone's elder or superior, so you use bluster to try and cover up how you don't actually know what you're doing. In these situations, humility is the last thing you want to practice, because you're worried that if you let people know that you don't know what you're doing, they're going to pounce and take away the little bit of social standing that you have.
Holy fuck you’ve bought into the western pov of “Asian families”, which in and of itself is a meaningless term given the diversity of culture Asian Americans never fail to astound me with your white supremacist subconscious, even the hardcore liberals
I'm Asian and it triggered me so much when they used Asian hate as a point in their apology for being racist against Black people! Like no, dont bring our issues into this and try to use it to cover up your mistakes. It not only makes the apology feel disingenuous, but it also minimizes the significance of our problem.
@@abi6126 Sorry but wdym? Don’t know which as in… what vs what? (My bad if it’s obvious & I’m just not seeing/getting what ur trying to say.. I’m pretty tired atm)
"Only black people are affected by Anti-Blackness anybody can join in, perpetuate it, and then experience no real repercussions." - D'Angelo Wallace 2024 This statement is incredibly important and D'Angelo is unironically a social scholar of our time. edit for grammar
It’s brain dead. Anyone can participate in any type of racism. Anti-Asian hate is fairly common in the black community and only Asian people care. This is a universal phenomenon
I remember someone describing it as having a "racist phase". Their racist phase is one segment of racism I have to deal with for the rest of my life. That could've been a reason for someone's depression, but to them it was just a phase they grew out of.
@jemiinou You already have some type of issue going on if someone’s comments cause major depression in your life (unless we’re talking about you being relentlessly bullied, obviously)
@jemiinou it is really scary when people can't come to face the harm they cause. remorse is the reminder we have not to do it again, and more people should remember that. It's just like when my fiancé tries to downplay certain micro agressions. One small comment isn't a problem, but an entire life of nicks and jabs leaves you bare. I hope for your comfort and healing 💗
The craziest part to me is that YEARS ago I followed Wootak (podcast dude on the far right in the clip) when he just made drink shaking thirst traps on TikTok. I remembered I asked in a live for mocktail recs or recipes and he answered something like don't even bother. Just have the alcohol. As a non-drinker all my life that one interaction gave me an awful feeling for whatever reason. So to see him go from that to this is WILD. Not surprising really, just wild.
ı loved watching them for a while really but then i got a weird feeling. the vibes were off and i stopped. sometimes your gut tells you exactly what it is.
ur so right about the purposely mispronounced names!! in NZ there's a big group of people (racists) who refuse to pronounce the names of maori places correctly, when it's literally the name of the place and it's as minor as changing the way you say a vowel or something. people will pronounce french and german names/places/words properly but if it's a brown/black culture's language, pronunciation suddenly becomes impossible 🤔
yeah purposely mispronouncing names, as well as pretending not to understand someone with a hint of a foreign accent, are just signs of a lack of empathy.
@@waynewayne8419 the hypocrisy a weird person wants to call normal people who call your bs out weird Even if there aren’t some sounds in some languages people can still try to pronounce them right
5:11 "How dare she hate men, yet marry a man." Bud, I've known plenty of men who hate women and marry multiple women without putting their negative emotions in perspective. EVERY gender has their days and phases where "I hate this gender because of XYZ." Usually it's a mood, and when either gender goes into it, you just kinda sit back and let them work it out. It becomes a whole different thing if you NEVER exit that mood, never calm down, never realize, "Hey, I need to change the way I think, I'm mad, I can't sustain this anger and have healthy relationships."
I think when folks bring up death threats during the "if we offended you, we're sorry" apology stuff, it's part of the "apology 101 grab bag for sympathy" and used to deflect. ....IMHO
I love seeing this anger when it comes to protecting black women. As a black woman myself I clicked on this video not expecting to hear that I have a big ****** hole. It’s disheartening that so many people find it comfortable and inoffensive to dig at black women. Sometimes it feels as if there isn’t much I can do because as a receiver to all this scrutiny and hate, my words against it are for some reason invalid. So when others stand up for us & say exactly what it is I’m thinking & to see that being well received reinstalls some of the hope I’ve lost for better treatment and perceptions of black women moving forward.
I just threw racial tropes back at them, in relation to East Asian men's penises, and how East Asian women's vaginas must be in relation to that, tiny and slanted i said. This is why i keep getting warnings on social media, because when i see nasty stuff being said i comeback with nasty stuff on-par with the original nasty stuff, imo some people need to hear what they said in other words to understand it because scolding them just does not make them learn, explaining it does not make them learn, throwing it back at them does.
@@RoxanneLavenderur actually so right, u gotta fight them in a language they understand and in Esther's case, it feels like she brought that up to emphasize how tiny and tight she is as fodder for attention from an audience that already sexualizes her - it's disgusting to me and may be my own internalized misogyny peeking through here.
Ok.. To start this comment. I am Asian. And my Korean mother was the most racist woman on the planet. She HATED black people, and when I called her out on it she seemed to be shocked to be called racist. There is a systemic toxicity that has pit Asians and Africans against each other. Eugene Lee Yang, Formerly of the Try Guys, Actually did a really nice deep dive on Anti-Asian hate that has a section that's focused on this but, TL:DR. Asians are put up on a pedestal as the 'Ideal Minority' and systematically pitted against the other ones, which, in itself is really racist, and also makes everyone else fight each other. It's really sad to see this perpetuated. Like... It steps on each other's toes and takes the focus away from actual issues. My fellow Asians, Stop this! Edit: So it was my own ignorance that lead me to just say "African" instead of Black, which, I appreciate the replies saying it nicely. I'm still learning how to let go of a lot of biases that got instilled in me growing up in the environment that I did. Small FAQ: My mother passed away in 2018. I kind of went LC with her because frankly, there were a bunch of OTHER problems that I had with her so I kind of got tired of trying to change her mind at some point. But yeah. Thank you for the kind words and even the corrections.
Have you talked to your mother more in depth? Have you tried explaining to her why it's wrong and how she's racist? Like for example you could ask her how she would feel if someone said they hated her because she's Asian. And that you should treat others how you want to be treated
@@antifa_communist That only works when the other person is actually willing to listen and has the self-awareness and humility to see how they can be wrong, which is REALLY hard for people to get without addressing some other deep-seated issues.
@@iPancake3exactly this. in the Asian community, racism against black people is heavily rooted in colorism as well. and until they address their own xenophobia and colorism toward their own, they aren't going to understand how bad their racism is
@@antifa_communist "ave you talked to your mother more in depth?" Are you operating on the assumption that one of the closest and most profound human relationships, parent and child, would be otherwise expected to be superficial?
@3:27 backing you up D’Angelo, it’s a racial micro aggression! I’m West African and no one can ever pronounce my last name correctly. You would think that these *Asian American* individuals would not go around mispronouncing someone’s name because they should know *exactly* how it feels for non Asian-Americans to incorrectly pronounce your name. There’s a whole notion of having an “English” name in the Asian American community BECAUSE ppl can’t pronounce your name. Shame on these people for perpetuating the same micro-aggressions that hurt their own community.
Same here. African last names (in my experience) tend to be phonetic, but people will see one, get sacred because it's a little "foreign," and just won't even try at all.
I once had a student with a very obviously African last name and I didn't ask her, I just pronounced it phonetically, and she came up to me after class and asked me how I knew how to pronounce it! Apparently people regularly butcher it left, right, and center and at the time I was the most confused because it wasn't difficult for me. At all. But yeah......looking back.....
right? as a mixed asian american who has 2 names it's weird to me that these people would continue to perpetuate this dumb attitude because i KNOW they know how it feels. i've spoken to so many asian americans about this, and it sucks after all, if you're unsure either listen to a clip of it being pronounced or straight up just ASK HOW ITS PRONOUNCED 😭 either of those take like 5 seconds. this "Afuflaulo" shit is microaggression masked by their ugly, lazy attitude
I see people do this with my last name too. They butcher it on purpose (it's not that hard to pronounce) and then make up some lame excuse "oh its an African last name, its so hard to pronounce!". The only thing that makes the situation somewhat turn around is when i tell them my last name is German. Goes to show how far people will take micro aggresions.
I’m becoming progressively more skeptical of people during apology/response videos being honest about receiving death threats. I know that creators do receive them regardless of if they’re involved in some controversy or not, but when people have said/done genuinely messed up stuff and publish a response, they always seem to bring it up as a way to get people to feel sorry for themselves, or a specific member of their group like this situation with Esther. I feel like it’s an easy way for them to try and diminish the extent of their behaviors, and it’s not at all subtle how they care more about that than doing better or genuinely reflecting on their actions.
right, its just a reality of participating in online discussions. i've gotten death threats over whether a hotdog is a sandwich because the internet is where crazy people live
This reminds me of when James Somerton, after being called out for plagiarizing and harassing creators, used death threats as a way to avoid taking any sort of responsibility. He also fabricated a suicide attempt as well in response to the criticism. The sad thing is, we SHOULD take death threats and mental health seriously, so it makes it even more egregious when creators use those things to avoid accountability.
I’m really so tired of it, it’s just an easy way to get sympathy, show you too are the victim in this situation. We need to normalize shutting up about death threats in an apology because the people you are apologizing to aren’t the ones sending death threats.
I just got married this last Saturday, to a man. A huge reason I married him, after a decade long relationship built on love and trust, was because he has fucking normal views about women and isn't a raging misogynist. He's an intelligent, kind, wonderful person that I love more than life itself. We sobbed trying to get through our vows. I know, their brains must be melting out of their ears imagining a man that isn't a woman-hating dunce. Now how are they going to blame their behavior on, "Well, men are just brutish assholes by nature! Wah wah I can't control myself!!"
I saw that clip of Esther in an another video of someone calling her out and seeing that clip for the first time nothing could’ve prepared me for the bs that she was spewing. Being a black woman myself hearing her say all of that honestly gave me whiplash. Eugenics? In big 2024?💀
I mean it doesn't help that these online feminist types literally use the word "men" without qualification in most of their angry social media rants ("Why do men...", "can men just not...") And then when you call them out for painting with a broad brush they say "If you're one of the good ones then stop whining about sexist stereotypes we're not talking about you hurr durr"
At 4:27 you can literally see in the screenshot...the very article that dishonestly says "MISOGYNIST men" in the headline quotes Afualo herself saying "because MEN will never stop being terrible" after calling them "human roaches" Looks like D'Angelo spends not even 5 seconds doing research, because DREW HERSELF doesn't even differentiate between men and misogynists lol
@jjw if you used some of your brain you would understand that she wasn't talking about ALL men. She was calling out the men who are misogynists. And most misogynists in this world are men. That was the point.
It’s already a harmful stereotype that black men have large penises (even though that’s generally considered a desirable trait) but to add on to that and make it about black women having undesirable vaginal anatomy is so disgusting. What a weird put down too since the next part of that pertains to asians (like herself) having more desirable anatomy in comparison. The intentions are very clear.
Asians know the model minority stereotype isn't great either. If you don't fit it, it makes you a fraud to your race. They should know there are no "good stereotypes"
Attaching masculinity to stereotype will never be a healthy thing, no matter if that man genuinely does has a large penis or not. And yeah, you cam flip that to the stereotype about Asian men, and then suddenly the issue is clear, but they just look for an opportunity to randomly dunk on black women.
@@lalacustardBut it's NOT true 😂 First of all, I'm a virgin. What she said was vulgar, disrespectful and a disgusting LIE. Did you know? That so-called Black women have smaller vaginas compared with other women. Scientists confirmed in their studies and gynecologists said that "Black" women have a specific shape vagina: pumpkin seed. No other race of women has this. We give birth to babies with smaller heads. Because their pelvis are small. That one of the MANY reasons why so many die in childbirth. We have more fat on our thighs and butt's. But we have smaller waists. In both men and women. We have stronger pelvic floor muscles and less pee irregularity. Stronger pelvic floor muscles combined with a small vaginal opening and elasticity of the vagina can stretch to accommodate size...means that "Black" women actually DO have the TIGHTEST vaginas out of all women. They are NOT loose 😂🤡 In Dancehall, so-called "Black" men say their women have needle eye. And a ton of other slang to describe how tight. Africa is the BIRTHPLACE of humanity and civilization. And MANY inventions in her continent. The first humans originate from East Africa. As a matter of fact, scientists confirm that "Black" women have the EVE GENE. We can give birth to EVERY human phenotype and skin color. Including Albinos. No other races of women had this. We are from an ANCIENT ROYAL BLOODLINE AND NATION. Dating back to the book of GENESIS. No, we don't have big vaginas 😂 It is quite the OPPOSITE in fact. Should I mention how "Black" women are victims and survivors of RAPE. For centuries. But then again, real history isn't taught. Also, it has been HEAVILY whitewashed and rewritten. In order to perpetuate FALSE narratives towards the REAL chosen people. So-called Black Americans and the rest of our diaspora are NOT Africans 😂🤡 We are the REAL bloodline descendants of the ancient Hebrew Israelites. The seed of Abraham. Go read Deuteronomy 28:1-68. NEGROES ARE HEBREW ISRAELITES. Shalom 🤎🖤🌍
And I like how the girl tried to say she didn’t make that up and she was spreading a stereotype when she was really trying to create one to make herself feel better.
Nonono I'm white, have a weird-to-say white last name, and people ALWAYS ASK they don't weirdly assume! But my fiancee has a TOTALLY normal to say white last name (literally his dad is white) and is black and people STIll somehow get his name butchered and they just don't ask! EVEN IF THEY JUST ASKED ME MINE IN FRONT OF HIM! It is 100% racially motivated and I'll call it out every time just the same cause it is sooo obvious when they do it to us! edit for grammar
it's on purpose 100 percent, the way some people have butchered my name because it's seen as a mostly masculine name, people have "corrected" it to Candice because they're not used to someone other than a boy having a "boy name"
For real, on purpose! I'm white and if I see a name hard to pronounce, I ASK before I butcher it! Even if I didn't have issues with pronunciation, I would still ask first 🙄 that's just disrespectful and rude to ignore asking and say their names wrong
I absolutely agree with the fact that people often weirdly assume and butcher names in a racially motivated way, but just wanted to add my two cents that I'm also white with a hard-to-pronounce last name and 99 times our of 100 people just confidently assume and butcher the name, im almost NEVER asked how to pronounce it 😭😭😭 but ofc in my case it's not malicious or racially motivated, they're just confidently wrong!
I get called SHEIN all the time. its Shion.😂😂 Saint is part of my last name but watching the whiplash of people trying to say my Japanese frist name and then my French last name is hilarious.
As an Asian person I'm actually so ashamed of these people. We totally disown them. (Fr though, misogyny and racism is alive and well and kicking in Asian society, though I can only speak directly about East Asia.)
3:25 it's the same with the constant mispronounciation of Kamala Kamaala Kemala. Implying that her name is so alien that pronouncing it is too difficult, implying that she isn't American enough.
Yeah i'm not even poc and it annoys the hell out of me when someone doesn't learn someone's name or how to pronounce the place they're speaking of. It's like why bother speaking like you know about the place, person or subject when you don't even know what it's called!!!
I got mistaken for a Mexican by a korean boomer, then he told me my accent sounded 'weird' when I talked back in korean. My parents are korean and my dad's brown. Brown koreans are really common, but that guy just chose to forget black/brown koreans existed that day. These podcasters are literally giving boomer vibes 😭.
Thank you for saying this!! Dark skinned 100% Koreans are actually so common and all I see in the kbeauty community is the perpetuation of Koreans being only fair skinned🙄🙄
Truuue. It seems so obvious that the gap between empathetic and understanding people - and - the “get off my lawn” type of people from the older generations (not everybody) is becoming smaller and smaller with the ideas these ‘podcasts’ perpetuate
I've been mistaken for Mexican or Puerto Rican endlessly (was really bad when I was on the dating sites 10 years ago), even though I'm Mixed, Black and Caucasian.
unfortunately there’s no other way to put this - bringing up death threats during an apology just immediately revokes everything you just said. it’s bad, but it’s also a completely different topic, unrelated, not the point, irrelevant, unnecessary, unsuitable, inapplicable………
That's actually the best tactic against weasel words, the attempt to make your own words sound like from another or from a lot of people to skirt responsibility of them or create a commonly held opinion from scratch. Never let people get away with not telling you where comments that you've only ever heard from them come from.
Agree on the death threats thing. I feel the same about influencers who apologize for doing something wrong and then cap it off with an emotional chat about the anxiety they are suffering and how hard it is to be criticized on a large platform. Like... do you think the person/marginalized group you harmed doesn't ALSO experience anxiety? Yes it's important, it should be tabled, but not today. Some other video. It's not like they don't talk for a living.
Tbf if we’re being charitable its the sort of thing that might be mentioned as an attempt to get people to stop sending threats Idk if someone’s been getting death threats then in a video about the thing that causing those death threats essentially saying ‘I’m a real person the threats that have come from this situation do actually impact me please don’t do that’ doesn’t seem like the worst thing in the world I’m sure some do use it to try manipulate an audience to feel bad for them but it’s hard to disentangle that from people just trying to get something awful to stop happening to them because if people don’t feel bad for you/ about what they’re doing they don’t have a reason to stop.
Drew afualo is no one I watched and really saw coming up, but everytime I see her accidentally in someone’s content she is zero tolerance and has such a strong standing. And she does it with a smile! That is brave, and smart, and honestly inspiring. Esther (the girl in the podcast) has to wake tf up
it IS racist to mispronounce a cultural name on purpose. in many cultures, our names are sacred. in my country, some believe that our names are exaltations from our ancestors.
I just said this to a person in the comments saying they struggle with everyone's names. Our names are part of who we are and make us who we are. Like my name is Nandipha (which means Given (direct translation: you gave me)) and in South African cultures names are always correlating in relation to God so the full meaning of my name would be "Given by God". My last name is my identifier, I just don't know my clan names (last names of all your ancestors, which help you identity your background and family members). I know the world would've been in chaos if South Africans walked around having their clan names on their IDs, passports etc😂
as a LONG time watcher of suburb talks i’ve known of UTI for a while since they’ve collabed a lot and to be fr, NEVER liked them 🤷🏼♀️ they’ve always given me off vibes like they’re lowkey haters or misogynistic and this whole drama has even showed more light on how they’re shitty. i’m so glad suburb talks have called them out on their wrongs, even when they were friends, and they’ve totally distanced themselves from them, they’re SO much better and a 10/10 podcast and have called themselves out on the past, something UTI clearly can’t do
@ they posted on their stories, basically just saying they do not agree with what they said and holding them accountable on how their actions can have poor consequences for black women, they were supposed to post a video with them but trashed the video as they didn’t want to be associated with them too
The way people go out of thir way to disrespect black women is crazy, like what did they do for everyone to be mean to them completely out of nowhere?!
No fr she didn’t bring up any other race and their apparent dick and vagina size. She’s just trying to act like BW are sexually unnatrative for whatever reason. And if she had this thought it would take two seconds to realize it biologically and scientifically makes no fucking sense.
They did NOT give a fugg!!! When she checked herself before saying it, acknowledged it was going to be offensive and would probably have to be edited out, BUT STILL said it anyway, this proved she didn’t care. She knew it was racist to say that shit to begin with.
Mixed race Asian here. I feel so validated seeing you analyze how these are such disingenuous apologies. They sound like apologies I’ve heard a million times in the Asian community. Every single time I engage with my local Asian community (mostly monoracial, very few mixed people), I am consistently shouted down whenever they say bigoted comments, and then forced to accept really fake apologies that have become the norm in these communities. You’re gaslit by the entire community and made to feel like the bad guy for not accepting the paper thin apology. It’s a big reason that predators also get away with much more in all the Asian circles I run in. Shoot, there was a guy in my area running the largest Asian community, and he had been harassing women (as well as a high schooler) for nearly 10 years. Everyone kept forgiving him because “he’s sorry” and “we believed he has changed, we forgive him” even though his “apologies” looked like Chat GPT wrote them, and it’s not anyone’s right to forgive him except for the victims. Btw the community still refused to remove him from leadership, despite many women coming forward 🙄 The Asian community has a huge problem with accountability. We only seem to care when it’s racism against us, but get crazy defensive when it comes to how we harm others.
I lived in an Asian country overseas for a brief time and was actually shocked by the amount of racism coming from Asians towards other Asians. My sheltered ass didn't think about the fact that racism exists in many different cultures and with so many different ethnic groups. Was pretty disheartening to realize that.
Yep, I've had gynecologist refuse to give me a smaller speculum size than I requested because they didn't think I would need it. I needed an ER visit after my hysterectomy, and I did have an Asian student doctor trying to use a regular speculum on me, and she could not get it open and kept trying to get it open until finally the head doctor yelled at her to get a smaller size. Yeah, I'm a tall, fat Black woman. That doesn't have any effect on my vaginal muscles.
I'm 30 and have only had 2 successful pap smears because they're so painful! I fucking WISH I had more room down there. Must be because I'm mixed smh /s
It doesn't even matter it's your smaller in size as BW. I'm 5'4" and wear size small. I was given a regular speculum, and they kept telling me, "Relax and stop clamping down with your muscles." They didn't think for a second that I'm not clamping down, and the size is just so big, and they're tearing me apart. I could barely walk after the procedure. I cried before I had to get my IUD removed because I knew I'd have to deal with that again.
That’s insane. I’m black and my OBGYN told me I could only use the smallest IUD because the others wouldn’t even fit. She didn’t even bother to try. Ethnicity has NOTHING to do with your cervical and vaginal size. I’m blessed that my OBGYN is also a black woman because medical racism is real and rampant
Hi! It does in fact matter as you not only have muscle in that area but soft tissue. The larger you are the more soft tissue you have. That soft tissue can flop in front of the cervix. The reason you use a bigger speculum is cause it can lift the tissue out of the way so you can still view the cervix. I get that everyone has their own experience and that medicine should be more individualized however spewing blatant lies is not it. Y’all are as bad as trump supporters in that way. You’re not an expert, it doesn’t mean doctors know your body better but it does mean they’re using literal evidence based medicine on what would benefit the majority of people.
THANK YOU for bringing up the death threats thing!!! theyre very serious but i only hear people use them as a shield for their actions and it's irritating me to the point that im starting to not care! which sucks because they're genuinely harmful but when "cancelled" influence number 58 cries someone was mean to them online because they said something racist like. my empathy there is gone
Completely agree on the name mispronunciation. I think it stems from both laziness and a general lack of respect for people that are different than them. They see a name they have never seen before, and can't be bothered to even try and pronounce right (even if most of the time its not even that hard to say). I had a friend growing up from Ghana and some of the names that substitute teachers called him during roll call were embarrassingly direspectful to him
Its disrespectful and insulting and it's disturbing how flippant people are about it. Theres especially no excuse when you have the internet to spend 2 minutes learning even the most difficult name
There is so much to unpack when it comes to asian men’s misogyny and asian women’s internalization of that misogyny. Especially when it comes to men from Korea. Look no further than the nth rooms case in Korea right now. If a woman wants to be accepted in those spaces she must comply to their misogyny. It’s a sad reality but there are many voices advocating for this issue. Also those dudes in the podcast wanna be black so badly its disgusting how they’ll steal from the culture and hate on black women at the same time.
There's nothing unique about Asian misogyny. It's literally like that everywhere in the world if you dive deep in the news yet I only see Asia being critiqued for it. Both Asians and Blacks make generalizations of each other all the time and this is an example of one.
@@dotdot-s2jI’d say there are unique characteristics about it that have to do with the way our cultures raise young men. Unpacking means breaking down what differentiates this misogyny from other types. You cant dismantle it unless you know it.
@@dotdot-s2j not you editing your comment lmao. If you’re tuned into news from different communities you’d see people bring up the misogyny among both asian and black men. Idk why u feel so defensive about this. I’m bringing up misogyny among Asian cultures because thats relevant to the podcasters in the video.
@@happee25 I agree that it should be addressed. I disagree that misogyny in Asia is unique or way worse than other countries. This is a common take I see and I think it's because negative news about Asia is spread constantly and gets good engagement. If you only see negative news about a country then your perception of that country will most likely be negative. Researching other countries will reveal that misogyny is not unique to Asia and is in fact everywhere.
@@happee25 I brought it up because you were making generalizations about Asian people yet you criticize these Asian podcasters for making generalizations about Black people. How about both are wrong? I've been nothing but respectful yet now you're calling me defensive. You're definitely projecting.
as a polynesian person, it is very common for the mispronunciation of poly names to be microaggresions! i have had my (very "ethnic") name mispronounced for the purpose of riling me up and/or perpetuating racism.
@@Norcat10 the problem is the podcaster obviously mispronounced her name by calling her AFUFALO where it's obvious her name only consist of one F. I think no one's gonna be mad at him if he pronounced it as "ay-fu-ah-low" in context how of english phonology works. At least it's closer even if it's wrong. But it's obvious the podcaster don't make genuine mistake out of ignorance
@@Norcat10 dude, these podcasters have openly been racist even to other asian people/cultures. I dont doubt that they were being intentional. Also, im a white girl with a russia name and people are much more willing to get my name right than my cousin's (who is japanese) both names are equally uncommon, but only one gets mocked... can you guess wich?
@@Norcat10 i know what you're trying to say. You're trying to equate his pronounciation to how japanese pronounce "sukareto" to "scarlett" or "jo-ji" to "george". Yeah dude I'm not that unfamiliar with japanese language. Nice try though. But that's NOT the case here. I don't see any point why he need to add another F in Afualo's name. Both him and drew speak the same language. No language barrier can excuse his mispronounciation. If you're trying to excuse racisms, just be genuine about it
Honestly I like how you brought up how "apologies" have gotten the same, even when I feel the person is being ernest its still difficult to not feel like its flat when others basically follow the same steps. I felt like I was the only one feeling this way but its nice to see someone else notice.
@stevendemayo3631 I haven't personally heard it, at least they don't point out the specific way people do it, especially when its a more liked person who did a minor thing. I have seen many of from more liked creators and its probably because they're more liked its not pointed out I guess. I thought I was just being too critical tho because of how I didn't see anyone say anything.
I’m a black girl and I’m dating a Vietnamese boy. He’s the kindest and sweetest person and his mom who’s from Vietnam loves me we even have matching nails. (She’s a very talented nail tech) this weird hate seems so foreign to me until it happens and I’m in such shock I can’t even point it out. Im a black woman im “too aggressive”, or “”””ghetto””” or “prude”” when i say no cause i have standards and I hate it. Im no better and no worse than anyone. I’m just a little bit darker than most
@@Liiinda4 you just want to pick apart a black girl's comment and for what. She just said that on average she's darker. No need to start shade comparing her to the entire continent.
@@Liiinda4 I’m saying that MY SKIN TONE SHOULDNT MATTER! That my words and actions make a person. Who I love shouldn’t matter as long as they treat me right. The fact that the only thing you took from my comment was my statement about my skin being dark is WILD check urself
I hate it when Asians are racists against Black people or vice versa. Shouldn't we be more willing to help each other instead and bond through shared experience? I have definitively experienced racism from some Black people myself (I'm Asian), and seen some Asians be racist toward Black people. Obviously I've had positive experiences as well, but those bad experiences make me sad.
ain't no vice versa for the most part. BP usually *react* to asian racism. Black people would pay extra brain rent to stay TF out y'alls mind for a century or two.
Nobody cares when black people were beating up eldery asians during covid. But everyone loses their gawd dam mind when an asian woman makes a joke about black women. Black comedians make jokes about Asians having small genitalia all the time too and nobody loses their mind.
OMG! I remember a video from them getting recommended to me where they invited a therapist (probably because I was watching mental health related videos at that time) & I watched the full episode. The episode was okay, but I got weird vibes from the hosts & immediately clocked that the girl was a pick me. Idk how to describe it, but as women, we often develop this instinct over time. I can’t always explain it, but I can often tell who a girl’s girl is & who isn’t. It’s something you can tell just by observing how they interact with others & how they speak about women. The men also gave very creepy vibes. That’s why I picked “never recommend this channel” on youtube & I was right!! My gut isn’t always correct, but it is 95% of the time & I am glad I have learnt to trust it.
Being a black woman can be exhausting. I just want to tune out sometimes because real life has enough challenges without the additional social media/entertainment BS. If black women can't be degraded or disregarded I think society would snap.
I regularly tune it out I swear because I don’t have the time or emotional bandwidth for people’s bullshit. I’m sorry you’re so obsessed with us. I mentally tell these people: Go be a miserable sad person, I’m going to go live my best life
This was such a non apology. They're just mad they got called out. People don't just say shit like that out of pocket. I don't. Being Asian or another race doesn't exclude you from racism against others. Also, my last name is Okinawan (I'm white, my husband is Okinawan) and it's pretty phonetic. BUT NO ONE EVEN TRIES. They butcher it so bad. My husband's first name is also so butchered it's sad. People need to try harder I swear.
Can we talk about how the whole idea of a woman needing to be "tight" is DISGUSTING. If a woman is "tight" she is stressed and NOT into it. JSNDMISNDKD the whole concept is gross and predatory
18:00, Actually Viet, has corrected Esther’s harmful words on the spot. As soon as she let out that idiotic myth, he called it out. Thats probably why he was quiet during the entire apology, he’s the only one I’m not side eyeing .
He needs to get better friends then. Just how long will he call out ignorant statements like this until he's shamed into silence or compliance? It can't be a fun process to find out.
what he said was that he didn’t THINK it was true. he never called esther out for her racist rhetoric and misogynoir. also, people have come out and said that viet was out partying during their 2-week “break” and was telling people he didn’t actually gaf about this whole thing 🤣🤣 he’s just as bad!!!! you know what they say about birds of a feather..
@@salkeriif I remember correctly, he literally said “it has been proven that d*cks, don’t stretch out p*ssy” . If that’s not calling out someone and telling them they’re wrong…idk what is.
It is so SO exhausting to fight these corny ass stereotypes your entire life as a black woman. What is UP with their weird weird weird hyper-fixation on us? It’s either harmful unprompted rumors like this to make a joke out of our bodies/femininity or it’s being obsessed with out aesthetics ie. trying to achieve our body type with plastic surgery, singing like us (I’m looking right at you Arianna grande). It’s never uplifting. I’m 24 years old and still find it hard to believe my partners when they say they’re attracted to me bc of dehumanizing stuff like this. Like can we talk about it? Can be actually talk about it??
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO I CANT LIE. As a black person who grew up in a very heavy asian populated area "Flushing Queens" I always been around and felt comfortable around asian folks. Yes there would be little microaggressions here and there but I chalked that up to just NY being NY. I became a listener about a year and a half ago and a lot of episodes and things they say on the UTI podcast id be geniunely upset about. Especially when it came to black folks. But yeah. seeing a lot of creators and people blast Esther and the rest of the UTI podcast makes me feel good. Glad we are holding folks accountable.
Remembering and pronouncing someone‘s name correctly is part of basic respect. When I worked as a CNA I worked with a lot of POC immigrants. We worked under white nurses who would refuse to even try to say their names. They would dismiss it and say „oh I can never remember those African names“. One of my coworkers‘ name was Clementine. Very American? They always remembered my name; I’m white. When I first started working there and made an effort to pronounce and call my coworkers by their correct name, my coworkers thanked me. And I say that not to pat myself on the back with tacky white saviorism, but to point out how sad it is to be thanked for common decency.
Also did anyone clock the fact that they only cared to APOLOGIZE to THEIR supporters and not any one else who happened to see their content and was hurt by it?? Its giving “my parents are forcing me to apologize so i dont get grounded” like 😭 so disingenuous
My name is Ayame (Ah-Yah-May) and people act like I’m asking them to say the hardest name on the planet, even if I tell them to call me Aya they get confused and annoyed and I always feel like??? Bad??? It’s this strange thing with ethnic names or slightly “difficult” names where people just shut their brains down. It’s like when you go to a drive through and they hear you have an accent, despite having perfect english, and suddenly they don’t know what you just said cause “accent”. And I AGREE about the weird shit about bringing up the death threats during an apology to garner sympathy. As another Asian, they disappoint me DEEPLY
I'll very easily preface this by saying that I am white so feel free to ignore me or point out where I might be wrong here, but I feel the need to defend the accent thing just a teeny tiny bit. I have a bit of an auditory processing disorder that can occasionally make it difficult for me to fully process what other people are saying to me, and this includes people with American accents, sometimes I have trouble parsing what my own mom just said to me, and when an accent gets involved it can complicate the precess a lot. I don't want to dismiss the fact that people are 100% racist about it, they are and I would never try to deny that, but I feel like disability related stuff can get overlooked in these conversations.
@@spiderbug7615I have the exact same problem. I have an audio processing disorder and I’ve had people get mad at me for not understanding their accent saying I wasn’t even trying. If they knew me, they would know that I need to ask twice a lot even when conversating with someone that has an identical accent to mine.
Both Ayame and Aya are such pretty names! Not that intentionally mispronouncing them would be okay in any circumstance, but they're both such pretty names!
That’s a very pretty name funnily enough I think I trick people into saying my name properly, because the pronunciation of my last name is traditionally, very Jewish and very white people are still kind of surprised when they see me sometimes, but I can hear it in their voice, so yes, I know when they mispronounce the black and brown friends right next to me names it is very much intentional
16:46 BROOO what makes it even funnier is that they clearly understand that Esther gets the most hate because of MISOGYNY (not saying she did nothing wrong, she absolutely deserved the hate, but it was piled onto her MORE than the hate for the men who endorsed what she said and have said stupid sht themselves...because she's a woman), yet for some reason it's sooo hard for them to wrap their heads around how Drew calls out misogyny in her content. they only "get it" when its targeted at a woman they know and like.
Can we on the internet have a real convo about how "death threats" seem to be a way of claiming or insuating that aby criticism is bad? Like every time someone gets called out, they claim that they are getting so many death threats. No matter what. I just don't believe it
@@DavidJones-ot8qu it's not a stereotype. It's a matter of fact. East Asians do scalp off .and profit from Black American cultures heavily, only to turn around and be disrespectful to said cultures. It's not new, and it's both in Asia and in the US, many Hafu who are stuck in the middle, very much called out such behaviour.
@DavidJones-ot8qu they said east asians who do (this) do (that.) That's not stereotyping east asian people. That's calling out a specific group of them. If they had saie "east asians are racist" or "east asians do (this)" that would be stereotyping. I don't like pointing out the obvious but here it is
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Nah, I’m East Asian and they’re not wrong. Anti-black racism is SO normalized in the East Asian community. Hell, I even have a few racist family members myself. It’s really unfortunate how some Asians keep perpetuating the model minority label by looking down on other minorities and catering to/uplifting whiteness.
9:50 I doubt it was rage bait, people DO think that about black women. A guy told me his white cousin has a giant dong so he can only date black women. Like my guy, maybe he just likes black women? And if we went off stereotypes, your cousin shouldn't exist? 😅
Esther, probably: "I was disrespectful to black women but like.... people online were disrespectful to ME when asking me to be accountable for that, and it made me upset" *pout*
@@chalkandcheese1868And there you go proving her point. You are UP AND DOWN the comment section complaining about black people. If anyone can’t shut up it’s you 😂😂😂
@@chalkandcheese1868 yet, you're the one here, on a vídeo by a black creator, targeting comments made by black people, to speak your dumb, stupid shit also "you people" who?? are "you people" in the room with you right now??
It's always so annoying when someone puts in "stop the hate and death-threats" in their so-called apologies, because it puts more attention on them being victims of online hate than what they're sorry about, and makes the genuine criticism they've received seem like it "went too far." Ya, death threats are bad, but it's obvious when creators use that to make the apology about them and not about the people they hurt.
im ngl-as an asian (but particularly, southeast asian), there is a LOT of colourism ingrained into the racism within communities of POCs. i feel like that narrative is key to understanding why they felt comfortable making those comments-theres levels to the discrimination UTI is comfortable with dishing because at worst, most people dont know how to navigate/tread a situation where racism+colourism act as a combo, and at best the flack theyll receive is minimal because next to nobody watches the show lol
oh yes the rhetorical purpose of putting death threats into every apology video is always very clear, to paint people who disagree with them as unreasonable when paired with their (as you acknowledged ) checklist of reasonable apology points and lack of context. honest to god almost any apology that brings up death threats is null and void to me because of this. bc of the way it’s framed & it’s one of those things that always has plausible deniability
4:02 I read her book, too - it’s so obvious what type of man she’s talking about. She makes it very clear, and it’s very clear the type of person who would get upset by what she says.
When will us Black women be FREE from these unprovoked random attacks on us. The obsession with out hair / face/ body etc and literally existence is so weird....
Like we just be living our lives....😂😂
And someone just has to open their mouth to talk about us😂
And for the benefit of what? For some guys that didn’t respect you to start with to get a couple laughs? Speaks volumes on their self esteem, smh
Not only do they do this because of the normalization of ridiculing and dehumanizing black women but also because they know it'll give them engagement. They want to be edgy, raunchy and anti-liberal so bad and this is the only way they know how, it's pathetic really.
@sarah2172 it is DISGUSTING! Every time I am like, "Where is this coming from?" And I am convinced it is because black women have developed so much fucking strength and resilience through every hardship they have to experience just for being who they are. Other woman get jelous because they don't have it and demean them to look good for their male opressors and men get fucking scared cause balck women are trying to end the oppression! And its even deeper because black women have always not even just fought for themselves but everyone! It is indescribably heartbreaking.
The way they say hateful stuff towards black people then listen to black artists, and partaking in aspects of black culture with no appreciation is wild to me.
Its even worse in Asia as its Humongous society and many believe its all just American culture with out knowing the nuisance.
(I lived in Japan and im mixed Japanese, so Im just saying in my experience).
My take is that she was FORCED to make this "apology" because the whole time she looked like a preschooler saying "im sorry i hit you" to another child they don't like. Also, If we take her "i read somewhere" statement and flip it to the racial stereotypes of Asian men, would she say it still holds up?? I really don't think she would. Yes she is getting the most "hate" because she's the one who made the decision to open her mouth and say that string of words. There is just so much that shes doing that upsetting me based on just these clips that id be banned if I said what I really wanna say about her and that annoyed look on her face.
"I will no longer bring up any topics that could potentially harm anyone" is very victim-blamey to me. a lot of their wording just rubbed me the wrong way, like they're subtly trying to parody an apology.
No because that was actually the best description of the situation that anyone could have made. She looks like a petulant child that’s angry for facing consequences for the first time in her life
Right. Apology not accepted and have been rejected by many black women. I'm glad and just hope we can ignore and continue acting like they don't exist.
The fact they apologized to her!! ughhhh lol yeah nobody deserves death threats, but she's disgusting. It's always most shameful when I see girls degrading other women.
@@Megabot_6000 ok as a woman myself....what she said was not that bad. She regurgitated a weird theory she saw online...backed by a lot of the same rhetoric supported on po*n. out of all the things to get mad at,..this is on your list really?
6:56
Fun fact:
As a fellow Asian. I often ask men on dating apps if they listen to these podcasts. If they say yes, I immediately unmatched
Smart move!!! 👏🏿👏🏿
That's a great filter.
By "these podcasts", do you mean under the influence show
@@Ann_T_Socialit’s a great filter for guys too, there’s pragmatic women who know dudes can watch these pods casually for its comedy, and then there’s this girl lolol
@@RedDenim this pod is boring af, I watched a few of their old vids but there's only so much you can watch of the same inane convos. Added to the fact that these guys clearly doesn't care to listen to their guests and settle with being contrarian just for the fun of it.
Esther’s comment was giving hints of old school “black women feel less pain” rhetoric
She graduated from the Andrew Schulz school of Misogynoir
Phrenology, now for genitals!
Yep, and it's so gross
Immediately said this in my head
That was a thing? That's awful
If you believe calling out misogyny is calling out men, you need to seriously examine what type of man you are.
At 4:27 you can literally see in the screenshot...the very article that dishonestly says "MISOGYNIST men" in the headline quotes Afualo herself saying "because MEN will never stop being terrible" after calling them "human roaches"
The one person incapable of differentiating between men and misogynists is Drew Afualo lol
@jjw3046 Read the beginning of that article. "On the topic of idiot men who get a rise out of shaming women" is literally the first sentence. It's very clear who she's talking about. And it's not just regular men.
@@brett8259 Reread my comment and Drew's quote. She explicitly says "MEN" not "bad men" not "misogynist men" Her literal words. Stop making excuses for her
@youngrootv "If you're a minority and you don't commit crime then you shouldn't get offended by conservatives calling minorities 'criminals'. It's really not that hard to understand"
That's basically your argument
@jjw3046 Read the quote just fine. read the context of the article. The article is specifically about misogynistic men, her quote IN the article is specifically about misogynistic men. Stop trying to hate a woman so badly that you need to make up things.
@@jjw3046all u dumbass shit for brains men know how to do is be purposely obtuse. If u wanna paint her as a villain when in all of her content she explicitly says “shitty men” “insecure men” “trashy men” get ur head out of ur fucking ass. Like Drew also says, hit dogs holler and she got u and all the peabrained, snowflake men like u on a leash 😂
i'm glad someone finally has brought up how people always bring up death threats only when they are supposed to be apologizing to make you feel bad for them so u forgive them- like it is to a point where I don't even know if some of them are actually genuinely receiving death threats, or at least not so many that they need to bring it up during their apology.. like its every single time someone does something shitty now that they bring up death threats
It always feel like it’s an excuse to deflect accountability onto the viewer. Like yeah I said something racist and misogynistic… but you guys are the real bullies for being mean to me so therefore what I did wasn’t THAT bad :,(
@@maya6562 LITERALLY
You probably don't like this guy, but even pewdipie mentioned that bringing up death threats in a youtube apology is a weak move and is just a way to shiftblame
@@aeoligarlic4024PewDiePie is the only UA-camr I've see genuinely grow tf up out of their edgy nonsense and is now just living life. Man said "I'm over it", had a son, moved the Japan, and started an art channel. I can't hate on that in the slightest.
Are you retarded
People who say "a female" instead of "woman", huge red flag right out the gate.
literally, the fact he said man and for women, he said female is all i need to know about him
🚩⛳🚩⛳🚩⛳🚩⛳🚩. A sea of red flags
Yes! Everytime the word female is used in place of the word woman, you just know the person who said it has no respect for women.
Huge agree!! Same for the other way too! I’ve known people who call men as males only too lol.
Literally the people who say that it is a red flag are the exact same people who use males for men
Benedict Cumberbatch and Arnold Schwarzenegger are fine, but Drew Afualo and Kamala Harris are too hard. Got itttt.
Im an equal opportunity name destroyer. I'm bad at ALL names. XD
Arnie Negawatt
Tchaikovsky, too 🙄
Don’t forget Zach Galifianakis and Jake Gyllenhaal!!!!
@@Gabster1990 Names are very important to some people in many cultures as they're part of a person's (family) identity.
I really hope you take the time to actually learn how to pronounce the names. I struggle too a lot but I always ask for correction whenever I say a person's name.
D’Angelo might be the only creator calling out the disgusting misogynoir we deal with all day. Thank you so much
@@Sophiamacofsky don't forget Dr Sunn, FD, Khadija Mbowe, and Foreign Man too! Just some reccomendations if you need more creators alike
I do think an important distinction is D’Angelo is one of the very loud men talking about it. Women repeatedly talk about misogyny but aren’t really listened to by men as much as men listen to other men.
@@aeoligarlic4024 Manifestelle
this is so ironic considering women on youtube have been calling it out for years but u only care when a man does it. u are part of the problem
A few do but he is definitely the biggest make creator doing so.
I'm mixed Japanese; theres tons of misogyny and ra
And then they still get treated like shit which makes it weird cause you’d think they’d catch on.
Or/and she is there for the bag.
Every culture is misogynistic Asia is not unique in that regard. Let's not stereotype Asian people just like how these Asian podcasters stereotyped Black people.
she is actually dating one of the men in that friend group, but he is not in the video!
@@dotdot-s2j Asian cultures are genuinely worse than american culture when it comes to those things (which is saying a lot). South Korea has an incel president, people in Japan will literally be racist to white people, and there is propaganda in China that actually says that black people are unfit for modern society. And most of all, these things are very actively denied by people both inside and outside the culture, which just makes it that much worse.
can we talk about 13:27 cause that shit just felt so passive aggressive to me “i won’t bring up anything that could be harmful to anyone” like????? it’s giving “i guess im just the worst mother in the world”
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Also, the idea that she's going to keep believing in shit like this, but won't say it. "I'm gonna keep discriminating against you, but with plausible deniability. ❤"
@@diarawisteria2218It’s also not explicit about what she’s going to stop saying. It’s like when people get caught in the Twitter Time Machine saying something racist, and their response is “I’ve learned and grown beyond that.” The question that needs to be asked, but never is, is “what did you specifically learn?”
@@bobbyray5165 That and, "What did you do, and how was it harmful?" The thing about most of these 'apologies' is that they're blanket statements designed for damage control, not genuine expressions of remorse. What are they actually apologizing for? Offending people? Why were those people offended, and what did you do to cause harm? "Uh...something, I guess, but I want to move on from that."
@@diarawisteria2218 This. Fundamentally, it’s about the optics of growth because what these people are more scared of is the perception of being bigoted and not actually being a bigot.
5:25 idk if im the only one but i hate it so much when someone uses 'man' and 'female' in one sentence instead of saying man and woman or male and female. Like its giving andrew tate and i hate it
It’s dehumanizing
5:40 My favorite thing about "Red Pill" ideology is that it's a Matrix reference. People who called themselves Red Pilled are referencing an iconic scene from a classic science fiction film written and directed by a pair of transgender women in which the suave, cool black guy is calmly explaining to the clueless white dude that the world he was raised in is a lie.
It’s a paradox!
It gets more nuanced than that too! The women behind matrix stole that idea from a black woman, an author who also wrote the story that was the blueprint for terminator too!
TEA babe
Just like how the word incel is invented by a woman
LITERALLYYYYY, it’s foundation is literally contradictory and hypocritical.
their comments about the woman's DV experience in korea were sooooo messed up. they literally said "it's your own fault. you have shit taste in men" and then called her a fetishizer for dating a korean man. basically called her racist for saying that a korean man abused her. it was crazy
I mean, that’s basically what this ideology says. There are TONS of these twitter accounts and so forth who say that women “have no accountability “ because if you get abused it’s because you don’t pick a nice guy. Like they actually say this, and it’s shared by tens of thousands.
It's hard to find a nice guy when even the guys are just pretending.
So if a woman cheats on them it’s because they have bad taste and didn’t choose a nice girl?
If only they could be more instrospective of the reason why birthrates are declining fast
@@user-td3ot7xq8p but when they got tricked by a gold-digging woman on a first date then somehow it's like the biggest crime to mankind
As an Asian person, I get so excited to see podcasts lead by an Asian cast because it helps dispells stereotypes. I have almost always been disappointed and stopped listening. Asian ppl really have benefited from proximity to whiteness and patriarchy and it shows. This is why I have a hard time being in community with other Asian people.
Yeah they should stick to food contents
i knew and watched clips from under the influence and from what ive seen, theyve been pretty cool and i liked what they said and talked about...but watching this im like...wow what happened...maybe its always been bad, i just saw the okay ones huhu
It is really disappointing. Instead of learning from others mistake, Most join in on white male supremacy believes. For what?
This reminds me of a comment made by a character on the Netflix show "Kim's convenience store".
He said to his best friends sister (all of them are Korean Asians, all 3 being first generation Americans I believe) that "Asian girls and white men have the same privilege". I'm paraphrasing, but his point stood in the context of the situation.
It's bad with some Hispanic guys too
"butchering people's names often feels so racially motivated to me"
Trump: "KamAWla Harris" "Kamabla"
Tbf, that may be his dementia kicking in😂
Trump calls her Scamala Harris because she scams.
Honestly if your name being mispronounced offends you, your skin is too thin and you are too sensitive.
Sincerely, a Persian whose name is butchered by every single person who says it
YES the way I spit fire to correct people when they say it wrong
Not to mention "Obamna"
It should be taxable to own a microphone 😭
He is making them more famous... Said he was sure it would be our first time hearing about them.
And yes, government tax their income from the podcast.
@@africaart They do?
@@africaart Taxing their income is entirely separate from how it should be taxable to spout stupid shit on the proverbial airwaves
😂😂😂 this comment slaps
There should be a license and screening for owning a mic 😭
As an Asian, I can say with absolute confidence that those podcasters were not sorry, and they are definitely pulling the "yeah, we shouldn't have said that, but death threats are even worse than what we said, so really, WE'RE the victims" card. They learned that from their parents. Unfortunately, in my experience, Asian family structures are conducive to the development of narcissistic personalities, especially within cultures that uphold Confucian ideals, which state that everyone is either higher or lower in status in relation to someone else, based on age or seniority or formal rank. So that means as a child, you are always subservient to everyone else in your family who is older than you, until one day you have children, and now you are finally more senior than someone in your family, except you were never taught how to be someone's elder or superior, so you use bluster to try and cover up how you don't actually know what you're doing. In these situations, humility is the last thing you want to practice, because you're worried that if you let people know that you don't know what you're doing, they're going to pounce and take away the little bit of social standing that you have.
Holy fuck you’ve bought into the western pov of “Asian families”, which in and of itself is a meaningless term given the diversity of culture
Asian Americans never fail to astound me with your white supremacist subconscious, even the hardcore liberals
I'm Asian and it triggered me so much when they used Asian hate as a point in their apology for being racist against Black people! Like no, dont bring our issues into this and try to use it to cover up your mistakes. It not only makes the apology feel disingenuous, but it also minimizes the significance of our problem.
This. I'm Gen X Asian and watching the UTI clips was cringe overload. The unexamined racism and misogyny is embarrassing
“the UTI clips” 💀
@@honeybat8803 don't know which is worse
@@abi6126 Sorry but wdym? Don’t know which as in… what vs what? (My bad if it’s obvious & I’m just not seeing/getting what ur trying to say.. I’m pretty tired atm)
@@honeybat8803 a urinary tract infection (UTI) or their podcast (whose name has the initials UTI)
"Only black people are affected by Anti-Blackness anybody can join in, perpetuate it, and then experience no real repercussions." - D'Angelo Wallace 2024
This statement is incredibly important and D'Angelo is unironically a social scholar of our time.
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It’s brain dead. Anyone can participate in any type of racism. Anti-Asian hate is fairly common in the black community and only Asian people care. This is a universal phenomenon
@@alexann2137 PERIOD
I remember someone describing it as having a "racist phase". Their racist phase is one segment of racism I have to deal with for the rest of my life. That could've been a reason for someone's depression, but to them it was just a phase they grew out of.
@jemiinou You already have some type of issue going on if someone’s comments cause major depression in your life (unless we’re talking about you being relentlessly bullied, obviously)
@jemiinou it is really scary when people can't come to face the harm they cause. remorse is the reminder we have not to do it again, and more people should remember that. It's just like when my fiancé tries to downplay certain micro agressions. One small comment isn't a problem, but an entire life of nicks and jabs leaves you bare. I hope for your comfort and healing 💗
The craziest part to me is that YEARS ago I followed Wootak (podcast dude on the far right in the clip) when he just made drink shaking thirst traps on TikTok. I remembered I asked in a live for mocktail recs or recipes and he answered something like don't even bother. Just have the alcohol.
As a non-drinker all my life that one interaction gave me an awful feeling for whatever reason. So to see him go from that to this is WILD. Not surprising really, just wild.
ı loved watching them for a while really but then i got a weird feeling. the vibes were off and i stopped. sometimes your gut tells you exactly what it is.
"HO COME AGAIN?????" 😂
That sent me!
Made me ugly cackle because I literally said that right before I saw the comment
I loved every moment that comment was on screen 😂
Like that's not even a stereotype. I have never heard such a dumb ass claim in my entire LIFE
Had me cackling
ur so right about the purposely mispronounced names!! in NZ there's a big group of people (racists) who refuse to pronounce the names of maori places correctly, when it's literally the name of the place and it's as minor as changing the way you say a vowel or something. people will pronounce french and german names/places/words properly but if it's a brown/black culture's language, pronunciation suddenly becomes impossible 🤔
T H A T PART
yeah purposely mispronouncing names, as well as pretending not to understand someone with a hint of a foreign accent, are just signs of a lack of empathy.
You guys are just weird, some sounds don’t exist in other languages but ehh whatever it’s discrimination or whatever you guys want to call it
@@waynewayne8419
Just say you’re an idiot who can’t learn new things.
@@waynewayne8419 the hypocrisy a weird person wants to call normal people who call your bs out weird
Even if there aren’t some sounds in some languages people can still try to pronounce them right
5:11 "How dare she hate men, yet marry a man." Bud, I've known plenty of men who hate women and marry multiple women without putting their negative emotions in perspective. EVERY gender has their days and phases where "I hate this gender because of XYZ." Usually it's a mood, and when either gender goes into it, you just kinda sit back and let them work it out. It becomes a whole different thing if you NEVER exit that mood, never calm down, never realize, "Hey, I need to change the way I think, I'm mad, I can't sustain this anger and have healthy relationships."
She doesn't hate men as in the whole general population. She hates toxic men. Nobody's going to marry a toxic man.
5:25 man and FEMALE
Let me repeat: MAN and FEMALE
You see the difference surely
Shoutout to my FTM homies
He didnt say Feemoid. Im gonna go sub just to unsub
@@honeyswann female to male or first time mom?
I was so confused when I once searched FTM on Reddit
thank god someone else clocked this too, it's such a self report 😭😭😭
Here to be 69th like
“Your podcast abbreviates to UTI like find god” lmfaoooo i need more D’Angelo roasts. That just healed me a little.
I think when folks bring up death threats during the "if we offended you, we're sorry" apology stuff, it's part of the "apology 101 grab bag for sympathy" and used to deflect. ....IMHO
I love seeing this anger when it comes to protecting black women. As a black woman myself I clicked on this video not expecting to hear that I have a big ****** hole. It’s disheartening that so many people find it comfortable and inoffensive to dig at black women. Sometimes it feels as if there isn’t much I can do because as a receiver to all this scrutiny and hate, my words against it are for some reason invalid. So when others stand up for us & say exactly what it is I’m thinking & to see that being well received reinstalls some of the hope I’ve lost for better treatment and perceptions of black women moving forward.
Big 🆑️it too.
I just threw racial tropes back at them, in relation to East Asian men's penises, and how East Asian women's vaginas must be in relation to that, tiny and slanted i said. This is why i keep getting warnings on social media, because when i see nasty stuff being said i comeback with nasty stuff on-par with the original nasty stuff, imo some people need to hear what they said in other words to understand it because scolding them just does not make them learn, explaining it does not make them learn, throwing it back at them does.
wtf is wrong with you??@@OliverNorth9729
@@RoxanneLavenderur actually so right, u gotta fight them in a language they understand and in Esther's case, it feels like she brought that up to emphasize how tiny and tight she is as fodder for attention from an audience that already sexualizes her - it's disgusting to me and may be my own internalized misogyny peeking through here.
Have it be known that most people are normal and don’t think these odd psycho sexual things about black women
Ok.. To start this comment. I am Asian.
And my Korean mother was the most racist woman on the planet. She HATED black people, and when I called her out on it she seemed to be shocked to be called racist.
There is a systemic toxicity that has pit Asians and Africans against each other. Eugene Lee Yang, Formerly of the Try Guys, Actually did a really nice deep dive on Anti-Asian hate that has a section that's focused on this but, TL:DR. Asians are put up on a pedestal as the 'Ideal Minority' and systematically pitted against the other ones, which, in itself is really racist, and also makes everyone else fight each other.
It's really sad to see this perpetuated. Like... It steps on each other's toes and takes the focus away from actual issues. My fellow Asians, Stop this!
Edit: So it was my own ignorance that lead me to just say "African" instead of Black, which, I appreciate the replies saying it nicely. I'm still learning how to let go of a lot of biases that got instilled in me growing up in the environment that I did.
Small FAQ: My mother passed away in 2018. I kind of went LC with her because frankly, there were a bunch of OTHER problems that I had with her so I kind of got tired of trying to change her mind at some point. But yeah. Thank you for the kind words and even the corrections.
Have you talked to your mother more in depth? Have you tried explaining to her why it's wrong and how she's racist? Like for example you could ask her how she would feel if someone said they hated her because she's Asian. And that you should treat others how you want to be treated
@@antifa_communist That only works when the other person is actually willing to listen and has the self-awareness and humility to see how they can be wrong, which is REALLY hard for people to get without addressing some other deep-seated issues.
@@iPancake3exactly this. in the Asian community, racism against black people is heavily rooted in colorism as well. and until they address their own xenophobia and colorism toward their own, they aren't going to understand how bad their racism is
@@antifa_communist You can't change people who don't want to change.
@@antifa_communist "ave you talked to your mother more in depth?" Are you operating on the assumption that one of the closest and most profound human relationships, parent and child, would be otherwise expected to be superficial?
NOT THE CHAT GPT APOLOGY
@3:27 backing you up D’Angelo, it’s a racial micro aggression! I’m West African and no one can ever pronounce my last name correctly. You would think that these *Asian American* individuals would not go around mispronouncing someone’s name because they should know *exactly* how it feels for non Asian-Americans to incorrectly pronounce your name. There’s a whole notion of having an “English” name in the Asian American community BECAUSE ppl can’t pronounce your name. Shame on these people for perpetuating the same micro-aggressions that hurt their own community.
Same here. African last names (in my experience) tend to be phonetic, but people will see one, get sacred because it's a little "foreign," and just won't even try at all.
I once had a student with a very obviously African last name and I didn't ask her, I just pronounced it phonetically, and she came up to me after class and asked me how I knew how to pronounce it! Apparently people regularly butcher it left, right, and center and at the time I was the most confused because it wasn't difficult for me. At all. But yeah......looking back.....
@@user-xh6jk4mi8u 100% but suddenly people lose their "hooked on phonics" knowledge the minute melanin is added to the mix.
right? as a mixed asian american who has 2 names it's weird to me that these people would continue to perpetuate this dumb attitude because i KNOW they know how it feels. i've spoken to so many asian americans about this, and it sucks
after all, if you're unsure either listen to a clip of it being pronounced or straight up just ASK HOW ITS PRONOUNCED 😭 either of those take like 5 seconds. this "Afuflaulo" shit is microaggression masked by their ugly, lazy attitude
I see people do this with my last name too. They butcher it on purpose (it's not that hard to pronounce) and then make up some lame excuse "oh its an African last name, its so hard to pronounce!".
The only thing that makes the situation somewhat turn around is when i tell them my last name is German. Goes to show how far people will take micro aggresions.
I’m becoming progressively more skeptical of people during apology/response videos being honest about receiving death threats. I know that creators do receive them regardless of if they’re involved in some controversy or not, but when people have said/done genuinely messed up stuff and publish a response, they always seem to bring it up as a way to get people to feel sorry for themselves, or a specific member of their group like this situation with Esther. I feel like it’s an easy way for them to try and diminish the extent of their behaviors, and it’s not at all subtle how they care more about that than doing better or genuinely reflecting on their actions.
right, its just a reality of participating in online discussions. i've gotten death threats over whether a hotdog is a sandwich because the internet is where crazy people live
Yup. Only apologize after actually being threatened into it comes off as disingenuous.
This reminds me of when James Somerton, after being called out for plagiarizing and harassing creators, used death threats as a way to avoid taking any sort of responsibility. He also fabricated a suicide attempt as well in response to the criticism. The sad thing is, we SHOULD take death threats and mental health seriously, so it makes it even more egregious when creators use those things to avoid accountability.
It also shows they aren't actually sorry, since they didn't apologize until threatened.
I’m really so tired of it, it’s just an easy way to get sympathy, show you too are the victim in this situation. We need to normalize shutting up about death threats in an apology because the people you are apologizing to aren’t the ones sending death threats.
I just got married this last Saturday, to a man. A huge reason I married him, after a decade long relationship built on love and trust, was because he has fucking normal views about women and isn't a raging misogynist. He's an intelligent, kind, wonderful person that I love more than life itself. We sobbed trying to get through our vows.
I know, their brains must be melting out of their ears imagining a man that isn't a woman-hating dunce. Now how are they going to blame their behavior on, "Well, men are just brutish assholes by nature! Wah wah I can't control myself!!"
How do you feel about men?
I saw that clip of Esther in an another video of someone calling her out and seeing that clip for the first time nothing could’ve prepared me for the bs that she was spewing. Being a black woman myself hearing her say all of that honestly gave me whiplash. Eugenics? In big 2024?💀
Imagine being so desperate for a new way to be a pick me girl that you start inventing evolutionary theories😭
Nice big 📦📦.😁😆😅😂🤣🤣
----A BM
@@sarah.n.s.c.lmfaooooo
These poor dudes can't differentiate between men and misogynists
@@zarzee8925 that’s bec in the venn diagram of their personality, it’s a circle
I mean it doesn't help that these online feminist types literally use the word "men" without qualification in most of their angry social media rants ("Why do men...", "can men just not...")
And then when you call them out for painting with a broad brush they say "If you're one of the good ones then stop whining about sexist stereotypes we're not talking about you hurr durr"
At 4:27 you can literally see in the screenshot...the very article that dishonestly says "MISOGYNIST men" in the headline quotes Afualo herself saying "because MEN will never stop being terrible" after calling them "human roaches"
Looks like D'Angelo spends not even 5 seconds doing research, because DREW HERSELF doesn't even differentiate between men and misogynists lol
@jjw if you used some of your brain you would understand that she wasn't talking about ALL men. She was calling out the men who are misogynists. And most misogynists in this world are men. That was the point.
@@jstnetan there's the one pixel where it doesn't overlap, but that isn't nearly enough 😭😭😂😂😂😂
As an Asian woman, I am disgusted and disturbed by these podcasters.
why are you disturbed. how has it effect your life you guys are doing the same to her now cyber bullying.
It’s already a harmful stereotype that black men have large penises (even though that’s generally considered a desirable trait) but to add on to that and make it about black women having undesirable vaginal anatomy is so disgusting. What a weird put down too since the next part of that pertains to asians (like herself) having more desirable anatomy in comparison. The intentions are very clear.
Asians know the model minority stereotype isn't great either. If you don't fit it, it makes you a fraud to your race. They should know there are no "good stereotypes"
Attaching masculinity to stereotype will never be a healthy thing, no matter if that man genuinely does has a large penis or not. And yeah, you cam flip that to the stereotype about Asian men, and then suddenly the issue is clear, but they just look for an opportunity to randomly dunk on black women.
The thing is, even if it were true, why even talk about it? I doubt thats what the podcast topic is about
@@lalacustardBut it's NOT true 😂
First of all, I'm a virgin.
What she said was vulgar, disrespectful and a disgusting LIE. Did you know? That so-called Black women have smaller vaginas compared with other women. Scientists confirmed in their studies and gynecologists said that "Black" women have a specific shape vagina: pumpkin seed. No other race of women has this. We give birth to babies with smaller heads. Because their pelvis are small. That one of the MANY reasons why so many die in childbirth. We have more fat on our thighs and butt's. But we have smaller waists. In both men and women. We have stronger pelvic floor muscles and less pee irregularity. Stronger pelvic floor muscles combined with a small vaginal opening and elasticity of the vagina can stretch to accommodate size...means that "Black" women actually DO have the TIGHTEST vaginas out of all women. They are NOT loose 😂🤡 In Dancehall, so-called "Black" men say their women have needle eye. And a ton of other slang to describe how tight. Africa is the BIRTHPLACE of humanity and civilization. And MANY inventions in her continent. The first humans originate from East Africa. As a matter of fact, scientists confirm that "Black" women have the EVE GENE. We can give birth to EVERY human phenotype and skin color. Including Albinos. No other races of women had this. We are from an ANCIENT ROYAL BLOODLINE AND NATION. Dating back to the book of GENESIS. No, we don't have big vaginas 😂 It is quite the OPPOSITE in fact. Should I mention how "Black" women are victims and survivors of RAPE. For centuries. But then again, real history isn't taught. Also, it has been HEAVILY whitewashed and rewritten. In order to perpetuate FALSE narratives towards the REAL chosen people. So-called Black Americans and the rest of our diaspora are NOT Africans 😂🤡 We are the REAL bloodline descendants of the ancient Hebrew Israelites. The seed of Abraham. Go read Deuteronomy 28:1-68. NEGROES ARE HEBREW ISRAELITES. Shalom 🤎🖤🌍
And I like how the girl tried to say she didn’t make that up and she was spreading a stereotype when she was really trying to create one to make herself feel better.
Nonono I'm white, have a weird-to-say white last name, and people ALWAYS ASK they don't weirdly assume! But my fiancee has a TOTALLY normal to say white last name (literally his dad is white) and is black and people STIll somehow get his name butchered and they just don't ask! EVEN IF THEY JUST ASKED ME MINE IN FRONT OF HIM! It is 100% racially motivated and I'll call it out every time just the same cause it is sooo obvious when they do it to us!
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I appreciate you, as someone who’s black with a unique first name 🩷
it's on purpose 100 percent, the way some people have butchered my name because it's seen as a mostly masculine name, people have "corrected" it to Candice because they're not used to someone other than a boy having a "boy name"
For real, on purpose! I'm white and if I see a name hard to pronounce, I ASK before I butcher it! Even if I didn't have issues with pronunciation, I would still ask first 🙄 that's just disrespectful and rude to ignore asking and say their names wrong
I absolutely agree with the fact that people often weirdly assume and butcher names in a racially motivated way, but just wanted to add my two cents that I'm also white with a hard-to-pronounce last name and 99 times our of 100 people just confidently assume and butcher the name, im almost NEVER asked how to pronounce it 😭😭😭 but ofc in my case it's not malicious or racially motivated, they're just confidently wrong!
I get called SHEIN all the time. its Shion.😂😂
Saint is part of my last name but watching the whiplash of people trying to say my Japanese frist name and then my French last name is hilarious.
As an Asian person I'm actually so ashamed of these people. We totally disown them.
(Fr though, misogyny and racism is alive and well and kicking in Asian society, though I can only speak directly about East Asia.)
3:25 it's the same with the constant mispronounciation of Kamala Kamaala Kemala. Implying that her name is so alien that pronouncing it is too difficult, implying that she isn't American enough.
Are you retarded, it doesn't imply that at all tf, omg this comment is laughable
Yeah i'm not even poc and it annoys the hell out of me when someone doesn't learn someone's name or how to pronounce the place they're speaking of. It's like why bother speaking like you know about the place, person or subject when you don't even know what it's called!!!
@@Norcat10 But there are people that don't put in the practice to try to pronounce names correctly, and that comes from ignorance.
YES
@@monbubyour point would be the more common occurrence
I got mistaken for a Mexican by a korean boomer, then he told me my accent sounded 'weird' when I talked back in korean. My parents are korean and my dad's brown. Brown koreans are really common, but that guy just chose to forget black/brown koreans existed that day. These podcasters are literally giving boomer vibes 😭.
Seriously. The manosphere has young men speedrunning their way to the bitter angry divorced boomer dad phase of their lives.
Thank you for saying this!! Dark skinned 100% Koreans are actually so common and all I see in the kbeauty community is the perpetuation of Koreans being only fair skinned🙄🙄
Truuue. It seems so obvious that the gap between empathetic and understanding people
- and -
the “get off my lawn” type of people from the older generations (not everybody) is becoming smaller and smaller with the ideas these ‘podcasts’ perpetuate
I've been mistaken for Mexican or Puerto Rican endlessly (was really bad when I was on the dating sites 10 years ago), even though I'm Mixed, Black and Caucasian.
Fact
unfortunately there’s no other way to put this - bringing up death threats during an apology just immediately revokes everything you just said. it’s bad, but it’s also a completely different topic, unrelated, not the point, irrelevant, unnecessary, unsuitable, inapplicable………
“Where did you hear that? Your brain doesn’t count” 😂
I cackled at this! Lol😂
That's actually the best tactic against weasel words, the attempt to make your own words sound like from another or from a lot of people to skirt responsibility of them or create a commonly held opinion from scratch. Never let people get away with not telling you where comments that you've only ever heard from them come from.
She still won’t say where she “heard” that from.
Agree on the death threats thing. I feel the same about influencers who apologize for doing something wrong and then cap it off with an emotional chat about the anxiety they are suffering and how hard it is to be criticized on a large platform. Like... do you think the person/marginalized group you harmed doesn't ALSO experience anxiety? Yes it's important, it should be tabled, but not today. Some other video. It's not like they don't talk for a living.
Clock it!!
Tbf if we’re being charitable its the sort of thing that might be mentioned as an attempt to get people to stop sending threats
Idk if someone’s been getting death threats then in a video about the thing that causing those death threats essentially saying ‘I’m a real person the threats that have come from this situation do actually impact me please don’t do that’ doesn’t seem like the worst thing in the world
I’m sure some do use it to try manipulate an audience to feel bad for them but it’s hard to disentangle that from people just trying to get something awful to stop happening to them because if people don’t feel bad for you/ about what they’re doing they don’t have a reason to stop.
They're just making shit up. I'm sorry, I just don't have it in me nowadays to not be cynical in these sorts of situations
Drew afualo is no one I watched and really saw coming up, but everytime I see her accidentally in someone’s content she is zero tolerance and has such a strong standing. And she does it with a smile! That is brave, and smart, and honestly inspiring. Esther (the girl in the podcast) has to wake tf up
We need to start registering these mics for real tho
We should use some of the same regulations for owning 🔫. Waiting periods, a background check, etc
@@SPMunny 💯
it IS racist to mispronounce a cultural name on purpose. in many cultures, our names are sacred. in my country, some believe that our names are exaltations from our ancestors.
I just said this to a person in the comments saying they struggle with everyone's names.
Our names are part of who we are and make us who we are. Like my name is Nandipha (which means Given (direct translation: you gave me)) and in South African cultures names are always correlating in relation to God so the full meaning of my name would be "Given by God". My last name is my identifier, I just don't know my clan names (last names of all your ancestors, which help you identity your background and family members).
I know the world would've been in chaos if South Africans walked around having their clan names on their IDs, passports etc😂
wtf? that doesn't mean its racist.
agreed, my name is literally the name of a goddess. it holds meaning.
@@monbub goddesses don’t exist honey
@@monbub goddesses and gods aren’t real
as a LONG time watcher of suburb talks i’ve known of UTI for a while since they’ve collabed a lot and to be fr, NEVER liked them 🤷🏼♀️ they’ve always given me off vibes like they’re lowkey haters or misogynistic and this whole drama has even showed more light on how they’re shitty. i’m so glad suburb talks have called them out on their wrongs, even when they were friends, and they’ve totally distanced themselves from them, they’re SO much better and a 10/10 podcast and have called themselves out on the past, something UTI clearly can’t do
When did suburb talks say anything about them?
@ they posted on their stories, basically just saying they do not agree with what they said and holding them accountable on how their actions can have poor consequences for black women, they were supposed to post a video with them but trashed the video as they didn’t want to be associated with them too
The way people go out of thir way to disrespect black women is crazy, like what did they do for everyone to be mean to them completely out of nowhere?!
No fr she didn’t bring up any other race and their apparent dick and vagina size. She’s just trying to act like BW are sexually unnatrative for whatever reason. And if she had this thought it would take two seconds to realize it biologically and scientifically makes no fucking sense.
Exactly I’m tired
They hate us but can't keep our names out their mouths. Mariah said it best THEY ARE OBSESSED!
@ jealousy is real
EXIST!! That's it.
People are obsessed with black women and they refuse to admit it. It’s odd
People see it as an easy target sadly.
@@fathippo3381but we gotta stop with the victim mentality right? As if acting like a victim isnt separate from being an east target
@@chayo4537we? You’re most likely not black or a woman 🙄
@@chayo4537Not hard to act like a victim when you quite literally ARE a victim of prejudice and hate
@@chayo4537if we are constantly targeted to the point where femicide rates among our demographic rises everyday, THEN YES WE ARE VICTIMS YOU FOOL
this apology has the energy of a group class presentation no one prepared for
also 16:20 so real
They did NOT give a fugg!!! When she checked herself before saying it, acknowledged it was going to be offensive and would probably have to be edited out, BUT STILL said it anyway, this proved she didn’t care. She knew it was racist to say that shit to begin with.
Mixed race Asian here. I feel so validated seeing you analyze how these are such disingenuous apologies. They sound like apologies I’ve heard a million times in the Asian community.
Every single time I engage with my local Asian community (mostly monoracial, very few mixed people), I am consistently shouted down whenever they say bigoted comments, and then forced to accept really fake apologies that have become the norm in these communities. You’re gaslit by the entire community and made to feel like the bad guy for not accepting the paper thin apology. It’s a big reason that predators also get away with much more in all the Asian circles I run in. Shoot, there was a guy in my area running the largest Asian community, and he had been harassing women (as well as a high schooler) for nearly 10 years. Everyone kept forgiving him because “he’s sorry” and “we believed he has changed, we forgive him” even though his “apologies” looked like Chat GPT wrote them, and it’s not anyone’s right to forgive him except for the victims. Btw the community still refused to remove him from leadership, despite many women coming forward 🙄
The Asian community has a huge problem with accountability. We only seem to care when it’s racism against us, but get crazy defensive when it comes to how we harm others.
I lived in an Asian country overseas for a brief time and was actually shocked by the amount of racism coming from Asians towards other Asians. My sheltered ass didn't think about the fact that racism exists in many different cultures and with so many different ethnic groups. Was pretty disheartening to realize that.
D’Angelo receiving a crummy gift for the holidays: “I’m not even gonna unpack that. I’m not even gonna unpack that.”
The moment that one guy said "females", I was grossed out. That's incel/Nice Guy behavior right therr
But he didn't say males. He said men. It's the small things
Korean
@@joevictor53It really is the small things. The moment you call it out you get told you’re overthinking and sensitive
Yep, I've had gynecologist refuse to give me a smaller speculum size than I requested because they didn't think I would need it. I needed an ER visit after my hysterectomy, and I did have an Asian student doctor trying to use a regular speculum on me, and she could not get it open and kept trying to get it open until finally the head doctor yelled at her to get a smaller size.
Yeah, I'm a tall, fat Black woman. That doesn't have any effect on my vaginal muscles.
I'm 30 and have only had 2 successful pap smears because they're so painful! I fucking WISH I had more room down there. Must be because I'm mixed smh /s
It doesn't even matter it's your smaller in size as BW. I'm 5'4" and wear size small. I was given a regular speculum, and they kept telling me, "Relax and stop clamping down with your muscles." They didn't think for a second that I'm not clamping down, and the size is just so big, and they're tearing me apart. I could barely walk after the procedure. I cried before I had to get my IUD removed because I knew I'd have to deal with that again.
Rosa, lord have mercy. see its one of those things we Men we are not dealing with
That’s insane. I’m black and my OBGYN told me I could only use the smallest IUD because the others wouldn’t even fit. She didn’t even bother to try. Ethnicity has NOTHING to do with your cervical and vaginal size. I’m blessed that my OBGYN is also a black woman because medical racism is real and rampant
Hi! It does in fact matter as you not only have muscle in that area but soft tissue. The larger you are the more soft tissue you have. That soft tissue can flop in front of the cervix. The reason you use a bigger speculum is cause it can lift the tissue out of the way so you can still view the cervix. I get that everyone has their own experience and that medicine should be more individualized however spewing blatant lies is not it. Y’all are as bad as trump supporters in that way. You’re not an expert, it doesn’t mean doctors know your body better but it does mean they’re using literal evidence based medicine on what would benefit the majority of people.
THANK YOU for bringing up the death threats thing!!! theyre very serious but i only hear people use them as a shield for their actions and it's irritating me to the point that im starting to not care! which sucks because they're genuinely harmful but when "cancelled" influence number 58 cries someone was mean to them online because they said something racist like. my empathy there is gone
Completely agree on the name mispronunciation. I think it stems from both laziness and a general lack of respect for people that are different than them. They see a name they have never seen before, and can't be bothered to even try and pronounce right (even if most of the time its not even that hard to say). I had a friend growing up from Ghana and some of the names that substitute teachers called him during roll call were embarrassingly direspectful to him
Its disrespectful and insulting and it's disturbing how flippant people are about it. Theres especially no excuse when you have the internet to spend 2 minutes learning even the most difficult name
There is so much to unpack when it comes to asian men’s misogyny and asian women’s internalization of that misogyny. Especially when it comes to men from Korea. Look no further than the nth rooms case in Korea right now. If a woman wants to be accepted in those spaces she must comply to their misogyny. It’s a sad reality but there are many voices advocating for this issue. Also those dudes in the podcast wanna be black so badly its disgusting how they’ll steal from the culture and hate on black women at the same time.
There's nothing unique about Asian misogyny. It's literally like that everywhere in the world if you dive deep in the news yet I only see Asia being critiqued for it. Both Asians and Blacks make generalizations of each other all the time and this is an example of one.
@@dotdot-s2jI’d say there are unique characteristics about it that have to do with the way our cultures raise young men. Unpacking means breaking down what differentiates this misogyny from other types. You cant dismantle it unless you know it.
@@dotdot-s2j not you editing your comment lmao. If you’re tuned into news from different communities you’d see people bring up the misogyny among both asian and black men. Idk why u feel so defensive about this. I’m bringing up misogyny among Asian cultures because thats relevant to the podcasters in the video.
@@happee25 I agree that it should be addressed. I disagree that misogyny in Asia is unique or way worse than other countries. This is a common take I see and I think it's because negative news about Asia is spread constantly and gets good engagement. If you only see negative news about a country then your perception of that country will most likely be negative. Researching other countries will reveal that misogyny is not unique to Asia and is in fact everywhere.
@@happee25 I brought it up because you were making generalizations about Asian people yet you criticize these Asian podcasters for making generalizations about Black people. How about both are wrong? I've been nothing but respectful yet now you're calling me defensive. You're definitely projecting.
18:09 I didn't know i needed to see d'angelo masterfully drag someone through the mud like this until i saw it, now i need more 💀
as a polynesian person, it is very common for the mispronunciation of poly names to be microaggresions! i have had my (very "ethnic") name mispronounced for the purpose of riling me up and/or perpetuating racism.
Half a can gets you people riled up
Fr this is not the first time drew got her name mispronounced intentionally
@@Norcat10 the problem is the podcaster obviously mispronounced her name by calling her AFUFALO where it's obvious her name only consist of one F.
I think no one's gonna be mad at him if he pronounced it as "ay-fu-ah-low" in context how of english phonology works. At least it's closer even if it's wrong. But it's obvious the podcaster don't make genuine mistake out of ignorance
@@Norcat10 dude, these podcasters have openly been racist even to other asian people/cultures. I dont doubt that they were being intentional. Also, im a white girl with a russia name and people are much more willing to get my name right than my cousin's (who is japanese)
both names are equally uncommon, but only one gets mocked... can you guess wich?
@@Norcat10 i know what you're trying to say. You're trying to equate his pronounciation to how japanese pronounce "sukareto" to "scarlett" or "jo-ji" to "george". Yeah dude I'm not that unfamiliar with japanese language. Nice try though.
But that's NOT the case here. I don't see any point why he need to add another F in Afualo's name. Both him and drew speak the same language. No language barrier can excuse his mispronounciation. If you're trying to excuse racisms, just be genuine about it
Honestly I like how you brought up how "apologies" have gotten the same, even when I feel the person is being ernest its still difficult to not feel like its flat when others basically follow the same steps. I felt like I was the only one feeling this way but its nice to see someone else notice.
Well, people have been saying this exact thing for years so I'm pretty sure you aren't alone
@stevendemayo3631 I haven't personally heard it, at least they don't point out the specific way people do it, especially when its a more liked person who did a minor thing. I have seen many of from more liked creators and its probably because they're more liked its not pointed out I guess. I thought I was just being too critical tho because of how I didn't see anyone say anything.
15:32 basically saying that if you are not willing to hear them out then you don’t get to be mad at them is crazyyy
I’m a black girl and I’m dating a Vietnamese boy. He’s the kindest and sweetest person and his mom who’s from Vietnam loves me we even have matching nails. (She’s a very talented nail tech) this weird hate seems so foreign to me until it happens and I’m in such shock I can’t even point it out. Im a black woman im “too aggressive”, or “”””ghetto””” or “prude”” when i say no cause i have standards and I hate it. Im no better and no worse than anyone. I’m just a little bit darker than most
Most? Do you know how big Africa is and that only one race is NOT considered POC?
@@Liiinda4 you just want to pick apart a black girl's comment and for what. She just said that on average she's darker. No need to start shade comparing her to the entire continent.
@@Liiinda4you took the finest piece of her comment to tear her down, wtf?
@@Liiinda4me when i need to find something to complain about
@@Liiinda4 I’m saying that MY SKIN TONE SHOULDNT MATTER! That my words and actions make a person. Who I love shouldn’t matter as long as they treat me right. The fact that the only thing you took from my comment was my statement about my skin being dark is WILD check urself
I hate it when Asians are racists against Black people or vice versa. Shouldn't we be more willing to help each other instead and bond through shared experience? I have definitively experienced racism from some Black people myself (I'm Asian), and seen some Asians be racist toward Black people. Obviously I've had positive experiences as well, but those bad experiences make me sad.
ain't no vice versa for the most part. BP usually *react* to asian racism. Black people would pay extra brain rent to stay TF out y'alls mind for a century or two.
How are black people racist towards asians? Explain.
Stop playing the race card and acting like the victim.
Nobody cares when black people were beating up eldery asians during covid. But everyone loses their gawd dam mind when an asian woman makes a joke about black women. Black comedians make jokes about Asians having small genitalia all the time too and nobody loses their mind.
@@chayo4537 this is all your brain came up with??
OMG! I remember a video from them getting recommended to me where they invited a therapist (probably because I was watching mental health related videos at that time) & I watched the full episode. The episode was okay, but I got weird vibes from the hosts & immediately clocked that the girl was a pick me. Idk how to describe it, but as women, we often develop this instinct over time. I can’t always explain it, but I can often tell who a girl’s girl is & who isn’t. It’s something you can tell just by observing how they interact with others & how they speak about women. The men also gave very creepy vibes. That’s why I picked “never recommend this channel” on youtube & I was right!! My gut isn’t always correct, but it is 95% of the time & I am glad I have learnt to trust it.
Being a black woman can be exhausting. I just want to tune out sometimes because real life has enough challenges without the additional social media/entertainment BS. If black women can't be degraded or disregarded I think society would snap.
I'm so sorry, sis. It's not fair. It's not right. Hugs to you.
That’s why I deleted instagram the anti black/anti black woman. It was too much. Absolutely disgusting.
I regularly tune it out I swear because I don’t have the time or emotional bandwidth for people’s bullshit. I’m sorry you’re so obsessed with us. I mentally tell these people: Go be a miserable sad person, I’m going to go live my best life
black women are the modern day white man. Ku Klux Kieshas
This was such a non apology. They're just mad they got called out. People don't just say shit like that out of pocket. I don't. Being Asian or another race doesn't exclude you from racism against others. Also, my last name is Okinawan (I'm white, my husband is Okinawan) and it's pretty phonetic. BUT NO ONE EVEN TRIES. They butcher it so bad. My husband's first name is also so butchered it's sad. People need to try harder I swear.
Can we talk about how the whole idea of a woman needing to be "tight" is DISGUSTING. If a woman is "tight" she is stressed and NOT into it. JSNDMISNDKD the whole concept is gross and predatory
18:00, Actually Viet, has corrected Esther’s harmful words on the spot. As soon as she let out that idiotic myth, he called it out. Thats probably why he was quiet during the entire apology, he’s the only one I’m not side eyeing .
He should not be in the podcast if the podcast is dragging his name to the mud.
He needs to get better friends then. Just how long will he call out ignorant statements like this until he's shamed into silence or compliance? It can't be a fun process to find out.
what he said was that he didn’t THINK it was true. he never called esther out for her racist rhetoric and misogynoir. also, people have come out and said that viet was out partying during their 2-week “break” and was telling people he didn’t actually gaf about this whole thing 🤣🤣 he’s just as bad!!!! you know what they say about birds of a feather..
He didn’t correct it lmao, he’s just as guilty as then
@@salkeriif I remember correctly, he literally said “it has been proven that d*cks, don’t stretch out p*ssy” . If that’s not calling out someone and telling them they’re wrong…idk what is.
It is so SO exhausting to fight these corny ass stereotypes your entire life as a black woman. What is UP with their weird weird weird hyper-fixation on us? It’s either harmful unprompted rumors like this to make a joke out of our bodies/femininity or it’s being obsessed with out aesthetics ie. trying to achieve our body type with plastic surgery, singing like us (I’m looking right at you Arianna grande). It’s never uplifting. I’m 24 years old and still find it hard to believe my partners when they say they’re attracted to me bc of dehumanizing stuff like this. Like can we talk about it? Can be actually talk about it??
THE OUTFIT GOES SO HARD KING YESSS the necklace and the hat and the overalls~! sooo good wow!
i WANT this man’s hat NEOWW
@@jupiter_424does anyone knows where I could get the hat and the overalls ? The ensemble is so cute ❤
Right?! He looks so good!
Everyone has been wearing overalls im so jealous, I'm too top heavy to wear them
The 2023 outfit comeback
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO I CANT LIE. As a black person who grew up in a very heavy asian populated area "Flushing Queens" I always been around and felt comfortable around asian folks. Yes there would be little microaggressions here and there but I chalked that up to just NY being NY. I became a listener about a year and a half ago and a lot of episodes and things they say on the UTI podcast id be geniunely upset about. Especially when it came to black folks. But yeah. seeing a lot of creators and people blast Esther and the rest of the UTI podcast makes me feel good. Glad we are holding folks accountable.
Disregarding that insufferable podcast and the ignorant people in it… this was actually one of my favorite videos you’ve released on this channel 💚
Remembering and pronouncing someone‘s name correctly is part of basic respect.
When I worked as a CNA I worked with a lot of POC immigrants. We worked under white nurses who would refuse to even try to say their names. They would dismiss it and say „oh I can never remember those African names“. One of my coworkers‘ name was Clementine. Very American?
They always remembered my name; I’m white.
When I first started working there and made an effort to pronounce and call my coworkers by their correct name, my coworkers thanked me. And I say that not to pat myself on the back with tacky white saviorism, but to point out how sad it is to be thanked for common decency.
Also did anyone clock the fact that they only cared to APOLOGIZE to THEIR supporters and not any one else who happened to see their content and was hurt by it?? Its giving “my parents are forcing me to apologize so i dont get grounded” like 😭 so disingenuous
Thank you for serving as always. Eloquence + cottage core 🔥
My name is Ayame (Ah-Yah-May) and people act like I’m asking them to say the hardest name on the planet, even if I tell them to call me Aya they get confused and annoyed and I always feel like??? Bad??? It’s this strange thing with ethnic names or slightly “difficult” names where people just shut their brains down. It’s like when you go to a drive through and they hear you have an accent, despite having perfect english, and suddenly they don’t know what you just said cause “accent”. And I AGREE about the weird shit about bringing up the death threats during an apology to garner sympathy. As another Asian, they disappoint me DEEPLY
I'll very easily preface this by saying that I am white so feel free to ignore me or point out where I might be wrong here, but I feel the need to defend the accent thing just a teeny tiny bit. I have a bit of an auditory processing disorder that can occasionally make it difficult for me to fully process what other people are saying to me, and this includes people with American accents, sometimes I have trouble parsing what my own mom just said to me, and when an accent gets involved it can complicate the precess a lot. I don't want to dismiss the fact that people are 100% racist about it, they are and I would never try to deny that, but I feel like disability related stuff can get overlooked in these conversations.
my name is literally aya and people still mispronounce it or ask me how to spell it like it's literally a-ya it doesn't get any easier than that
@@spiderbug7615I have the exact same problem. I have an audio processing disorder and I’ve had people get mad at me for not understanding their accent saying I wasn’t even trying. If they knew me, they would know that I need to ask twice a lot even when conversating with someone that has an identical accent to mine.
Both Ayame and Aya are such pretty names! Not that intentionally mispronouncing them would be okay in any circumstance, but they're both such pretty names!
That’s a very pretty name funnily enough I think I trick people into saying my name properly, because the pronunciation of my last name is traditionally, very Jewish and very white people are still kind of surprised when they see me sometimes, but I can hear it in their voice, so yes, I know when they mispronounce the black and brown friends right next to me names it is very much intentional
16:46
BROOO what makes it even funnier is that they clearly understand that Esther gets the most hate because of MISOGYNY (not saying she did nothing wrong, she absolutely deserved the hate, but it was piled onto her MORE than the hate for the men who endorsed what she said and have said stupid sht themselves...because she's a woman), yet for some reason it's sooo hard for them to wrap their heads around how Drew calls out misogyny in her content.
they only "get it" when its targeted at a woman they know and like.
THIIIIIIS!
Right lol they’re so braindead
Can we on the internet have a real convo about how "death threats" seem to be a way of claiming or insuating that aby criticism is bad? Like every time someone gets called out, they claim that they are getting so many death threats. No matter what. I just don't believe it
"...and then, together, we can work on trying to forget all of this as soon as possible" has me 💀💀💀
She's not sorry at all! She's just saving her reputation!
Yeah her face was giving "I'm mad I have to apologize"
what reputation LFMAO NO ONE KNOWS HER
i’m asian and there are so many asians that are racist towards so many people!! including other asian ethnic groups 😭😭 sometimes their own damn people
east asians who use black ppl extensively as a caricature not being respectful of other cultures 😮? color me shocked and surprised😮😮
Stereotyping Asian people while criticizing racial stereotypes. Epic win
@@DavidJones-ot8qu it's not a stereotype.
It's a matter of fact.
East Asians do scalp off .and profit from Black American cultures heavily, only to turn around and be disrespectful to said cultures.
It's not new, and it's both in Asia and in the US, many Hafu who are stuck in the middle, very much called out such behaviour.
@DavidJones-ot8qu they said east asians who do (this) do (that.) That's not stereotyping east asian people. That's calling out a specific group of them.
If they had saie "east asians are racist" or "east asians do (this)" that would be stereotyping. I don't like pointing out the obvious but here it is
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Nah, I’m East Asian and they’re not wrong. Anti-black racism is SO normalized in the East Asian community. Hell, I even have a few racist family members myself. It’s really unfortunate how some Asians keep perpetuating the model minority label by looking down on other minorities and catering to/uplifting whiteness.
@@DavidJones-ot8qu are you familiar with the kpop industry as a whole my brother?
"Can I just drag them all little bit? Can I be a little bit uncivil for once?"
Anytime, King. Any. Time.
I literally laughed out loud at “second life mod”. You’re too good 🤣
Am I surprised by their anti-Blackness?
Sadly, no
Anti-Blackness is a bonding exercise between non-Black people, even non-Black PoC.
As a white guy it seems to me as if every minority looks to pit themselves against one another instead of working together.
A word.
I hate knowing this is real
actually the most depressing thing to remember when you're black
We only have ourselves
Title answers itself. They're podcasters
So is drew though lmao
DIVA you ate this outfit!!! 90s king
Drew Afualo passes the vibe check.
Also I am HERE for the fit today, slay king
9:50 I doubt it was rage bait, people DO think that about black women. A guy told me his white cousin has a giant dong so he can only date black women. Like my guy, maybe he just likes black women? And if we went off stereotypes, your cousin shouldn't exist? 😅
Whoever thinks that is an absolute idiot.
Esther, probably: "I was disrespectful to black women but like.... people online were disrespectful to ME when asking me to be accountable for that, and it made me upset" *pout*
logged on to UA-cam exactly as this was uploaded
same!!
Me too.
Hooray to us being chronically online!
Hahaha well said@@Moo.1336
you are the chosen one
Um. The obsession with Black people is really real, fascinating…and understandable🙂🤷🏾♀️We STAY on people’s minds and in their mouths. Smh. Carry on…
Ridiculing black people is the only way they know how to be entertaining.
It's more like a tick in your ear, we can't ignore you because you never shut up about yourselves.
@@chalkandcheese1868And there you go proving her point. You are UP AND DOWN the comment section complaining about black people. If anyone can’t shut up it’s you 😂😂😂
@@chalkandcheese1868 yet, you're the one here, on a vídeo by a black creator, targeting comments made by black people, to speak your dumb, stupid shit
also "you people" who?? are "you people" in the room with you right now??
@@chalkandcheese1868And what do they talk about? Be specific
only d'angelo would dress up as himself for halloween i love it
It's always so annoying when someone puts in "stop the hate and death-threats" in their so-called apologies, because it puts more attention on them being victims of online hate than what they're sorry about, and makes the genuine criticism they've received seem like it "went too far." Ya, death threats are bad, but it's obvious when creators use that to make the apology about them and not about the people they hurt.
im ngl-as an asian (but particularly, southeast asian), there is a LOT of colourism ingrained into the racism within communities of POCs. i feel like that narrative is key to understanding why they felt comfortable making those comments-theres levels to the discrimination UTI is comfortable with dishing because at worst, most people dont know how to navigate/tread a situation where racism+colourism act as a combo, and at best the flack theyll receive is minimal because next to nobody watches the show lol
as a southeast asian YES EXACTLY.
All Asian people are racist. It’s not that deep bruh
THANKYOU for covering this 🎉
oh yes the rhetorical purpose of putting death threats into every apology video is always very clear, to paint people who disagree with them as unreasonable when paired with their (as you acknowledged ) checklist of reasonable apology points and lack of context. honest to god almost any apology that brings up death threats is null and void to me because of this. bc of the way it’s framed & it’s one of those things that always has plausible deniability
4:02 I read her book, too - it’s so obvious what type of man she’s talking about. She makes it very clear, and it’s very clear the type of person who would get upset by what she says.
yeah i used to listen to her podcast and she's very specific about who and what she criticizes and calls out.
Pls tell me what her book is called
@@yourfavperson3748 Loud by Drew Afualo