I remember this story. For the longest, Boeing tried to blame the crash on pilot error. The pilot kept trying to turn the system off that was causing the issue, but it wouldn’t disengage. Those poor pilots knew exactly what was happening, and were completely powerless, and a ton of innocent, clueless people were taken too early, and their memory was completely disrespected by a company trying to avoid accountability.
@@J.A_Music No the pilot definitely knew about the software that tips the front part , because on normal other days the plane automatically tips down its front to maintain the altitude so pilot must have known that the software tips down the front part to maintain, but that day the software didn't stop , it kept tipping the front until the plane crashed
They knew the software exist but didnt know how to turn off, the same plane from previous flight had the similar problem but the pilot at that time turn off the system quickly before they dive into ground
The pilots didn’t know it existed so they couldn’t deactivate it. You explained it pretty well, but I just wanna fill in that when the nose points too high, the risk for an aerodynamic stall increases a ton. So Boeing made the mcas system to reduce the risk of a stall but it wasn’t even properly programmed.
It was programmed properly, the 2 accidents were caused due to broken AOA(Angle of attack) sensors at the nose. Which prompted Boeing to add 2 instead of 1 at the nose further securing the plane.
The system did not allow the crew to override it. The system forced the plane into the sea. In other crashes, an angle of attack sensor outside the aircraft malfunctioned and again the flight crew was not able to physically pull the stick back to correct the attitude. Stupid management and engineering.
There was actually a switch the pilots could have switched to override MCAS that Boeing never said anything about. A singular sensor was used to measure the pitch and the speed, but that likely got damaged by a BALOON. Shame on Boeing.
@@thechilly1-2The 747 is quite lovely yeah. Although my fav one is definitely the A340-600. You just can‘t be saying every Boeing is trash just bcs of the 737 Max. Stop talking gibberish kid and grow up.
May everyone on board of this plane rest in peace. This accident is also very similar to the 2019 Ethiopian Airlines 737 max crash which involved in this as well.
Pilots that Flight this aircraft find out and decided to turn off the MCAS system and this is something about wings but at the back and they Done this by hands and didnt worked and crashed
@Mohta_mischief This was back then when 737 MAX just entered service and after that incident many countries ban the MAX from their airspace until Boeing reconfigure the system, the recent buzz about Boeing is a different story about their newer planes fuselage didn't meet the safety standard or smth, its started when one of their plane has their door being ripped out mid flight and their former worker / whistleblower who raised concern about the issue beforehand found dead by 'suicide'
This is the scariest thing ever happened to Indonesia because you can hear the sound of plane crashing to the sea. And some people can see when the event occuring.🥀 Rest In Peace
@@_Mintyz_ of course not. Training takes time on the clock and time is money. Wouldn’t want to spend a few hundred to prevent a few customers losing their lives would we?
@@Marynicole830 you realize that Boeing never expect mcas too do this so training in their defense is not that necessary. Yes it quickly became their fault after the second accident happened
@@_Mintyz_ They had MCAS turn on based ONLY on the Angle of attack, which came from ONE sensor, you never base something that powerful on one sensor, also the switch to turn off MCAS was installed from the start, but pilots had to realize what was happening, find the book, find where it talks about MCAS, and turn off MCAS in 30 seconds or you are doomed
@@ZyghqwyvThe pilots decided to turn MCAS back on after they turned it off. It is just mind boggling to me that these pilots would make such a decision.
@@LeonSaberYT Ever hear don't judge a book by its cover? Boeing kept this new software a "secret" so they won't have to spend money for new training for pilots.
I'm an Indonesian, just fyi, the plane wasn't took off from Jakarta but from Soekarno-Hatta International Airport which is located at Tangerang that exactly next to Jakarta. But still, Respect to the pilot that has tries their best, and RIP for all the passenger😞
My auntie actually almost got in this exact flight but thank the good lorde she missed it, i remember the moment so vividly we were all so shocked when it happened.
@@ElliotEzrah Still Train, Did You Ever Know That the Longest Railway Line In The World Is Stretches Over 9,289 Km, Connecting China, Mongolia, North Korea to Moscow and Vladivostok and the Kazakhstan Region?
@FM_604 Still Train, Did You Ever Know That the Longest Railway Line In The World Is Stretches Over 9,289 Km, Connecting China, Mongolia, North Korea to Moscow and Vladivostok and the Kazakhstan Region? But Still, You Can't Say Plane Crash It's Almost Impossible Even For A Long Distance Travels.
As an Indonesian, this news spread like wild fire. I heard about it and soon kept seeing videos of the Lion Air Airline, and some pilots have to say that the problem was not the pilots skills or the Lion Air, but just a malfunction on the plane. Lots of people stopped to go on a Lion air Airplane again because they were scared. But soon it went back to normal because they were finally confinced it was just a software malfunction.
When my sister's 8 hour flight from Singapore to Philippines were only 45 minutes away, the plane made a U-turn back to Singapore just to ensure safety due to the weather conditions
That reason is mcas. It dips the planes nose to prevent stalling but it malfunctioned causing it to slam into the ground. Multiple planes did this but it was fixed and is now safe
@sirslugs Lion Air planes come from Indonesia, and the majority of Indonesians are Muslim, and the JT 610 pilot said "Allahu Akbar" at the end of his life because he was Muslim.
As a indonesian, I remember this being on the news for a few weeks. The scary part is that when it crashed, the airplane and the passengers vanished, and it took 2 or more weeks just to find the black box. Probably the reason why I don't travel over seas.
Airplanes are the safest transport than any type of transportation you have higher chance of dying from car or motorcycles accident than in an airplanes but that didnt apply if you fly with lion air 😅😅😅
Sadly avoiding flying is extremely difficult for Indonesian, because it consists of tens of thousands of islands. I'm Indonesian too, and I travel via plane almost every month for work so like it or not, I have to fly to keep my job. I recommend watching videos from *Mentour Pilot* on UA-cam. Watching in depth videos that explains why plane accidents happened and how things are prevented actually helps me. Like the other commenter said, flying is actually a lot saver than driving.
For more context, Boeing knew how powerful the software was, but wanted the MAX to be released sooner, so they lied about it so pilot's wouldn't need extra training. It was tied to a single angle-of-attack indicator that is hardly safe from debris impacts, ice damage, and glitches, and when the AoA went haywire, the automation went haywire.
Boeing went from the Titans of Air Transport and Military Industries, to an Untrustworthy Company who assassinated a Whistleblower. Worst of all, The US Government or even the US military will never crackdown on such a company. Gotta love corruption.
I just watched a documentary on the 737 MAX 8 and 9. They installed the software Zach talked about called MCAS. They didn't tell the pilots anything about this and they didn't know this was installed. Which led to this crash, And the I think Emirates 320 flight crashed for the same reason. The device was on the side and would break from birds, balloons, etc. And the scariest part is that the bodies were never found. They grounded the plane and it came back in 2020 and no crashes have been reported since the rerelease.
I remember this incident. I am Indonesian an at that time I was having a holiday. I heard the news from my parents. At that time I was just fine, until I heard that an older student from the same school as I am was on that plane. When we came back to school we all prayed for him. He was going back home after a holiday too, with his dad and brother. His mom stayed home so she would be the one receiving the terrible news. 😔
May their souls rest in peace. More power to their loved ones. May they heal and stay strong. I can't imagine the pain of not being even able to give them a proper ceremony or say a proper goodbye.
Saying "yah we get it" is not respectful at all. Not even a bit. People died in such a tragic way and thats your words to them. Be more respectful. By the way, I am Indonesian.
@@dtheall86Are you high? BOEING did NOT even disclose the software to airlines. It was only brought up after the accident. How would pilots and airlines know about this software when it was not disclosed in the first place.
I am from the country where this plane accident happened ( Indonesia ) and as a plane lover myself and who wants to fly a plane one day, like no joke the entire world was like targeting our country. I mean they had good reasons for it: Most Airlines from Indonesia Air Banned in the EU, The airline, Lion Air , didn’t have a good safety record and the airline also payed investigators to not go against them. But, the fricken Boeing company didn’t want to make them at fault for the incident so, they just said it was a manual error and that the pilots didn’t react how they were supposed to act.
Exactly, I'm an Indonesian too and it is concerncing how far the steps will be taken by those greedy corpos for their own advantage. They don't care about safety, they don't care about ethics, only money, money, and money. It's really irritating and maddening.
@@bluescorpion7 I didn't fly yet. I'm flying in like a year 😭 but I am so excited to finally visit another country that I already started learning about flights
@@milyenderman7104To make you feel better, you’re WAY more likely to die in a car accident compared to a plane accident. I myself flew probably over 50+ times so far.
It happened more than once from the 737-Max. Multiple crashes and thousands of deaths. They grounded the planes for ages and there software has been fixed and are safely flying in the air now.
And now Air India has ordered around 800 boeing planes . I wonder Tata took decision to order it because he got it for cheap price as these models are rejected models.
@@MeowMelodyy Bro, boeing is the most safe and reliable plane company, they have been the best planes since ww2. You cant say the whole company is bad for just a mistaken model.
I had a friend on that flight RIP my good friend i will never forget you 😭 Edit: if you think im lying than leave me alone how would you feel if a person you loved died and you got called a liar HUH
@@Joker-em6oz he said the nose kept dipping during the ascent. At that point you should immediately try and land, even if it's not back on the run way. I'd much rather land in trees than the ocean where they all died
@@saki...7443 The pilots didn't know how to turn off MCAS + how tf do you land without crashing when your nose is 45 degrees pitched down , -2000 fpm and cant recover
Boeing CEO made $38.5 million in salary last year! 😮 Imagine that. While they’re planes crash by the dozen every year. That’s all I needed to know about that company!
For more context: this was when a new CEO came and ruined boeing by making it only money focused. Airlines buying from Boeing at that time claimed to have found strange objects in planes as far as findong ladders inside. This is because like I said earlier, they were super money based and wouldn't take out the ladder. EDIT: Being money-focused, it was much more affordable for them to add software than make a redesign. Also, the CEO knew fully that an accident like this were to happen.
@@OfficialDoggyYTHow stupid can you be Doggie doggie Doggie ??? 3 Boeing 737 Max 8 in just 4 months in Indonesia, Ethopia and Alaska all had a crush and killer all he passangers because of that new and failed Boeing 737 Max 8 system'. Got it ???
I actually remembered when I watched a documentary on this problem it was because Boeing wanted to get more customers than Airbus so they just cutted the engine of the previous Boeing 727 in half and did some fixing to show us that they were capable of making a new plane faster than any. But removing the ends of the engines was the problem that led to raising or lowering the tip of the plane more than usual. They thought they would overcome the problem by sensors but luck wasn't with these guys because their sensors were malfunctioned.
The 737 is not the problem, the 737 MAX is the problem, putting bigger engines on the 737 is stupid, the ground clearance isn't there unlike the A320neo.
The malfunction was due to one of the two A.O.A sensors (Angle of Attack Sensor) that were installed (one of them was replaced early, but wasn't calibrated) so the software (MCAS (Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System)) thinked that the AOA was 25° degrees more up that it really was so it moved the stabilizer at the end of the plane (Boeing just used only one of the two sensors, in this case it was the non-calibrated sensor), also, that non-calibrated sensor failed in another plane with a 60° degrees difference between the two sensors
It was a Boeing 737 max 8 because the engines are above the wings that causes for the plane to go vertical so Boeing installed this thing in the stabilizer to make it go down the pilots on this flight did not know how to cut it off
You should add that Boeing already fixed the issue after the aircraft was grounded for years. MCAS wasn’t the wrong part it was more that Boeing didn’t inform the crews well enough about it and they should have get trained for it .
Actually no, it didn’t malfunction, Boeing just didn’t train the pilots, so they continuously fought against it which caused it to go into a nosedive, also the reason they added it was because at the angle it took off at, there was a chance the plane would stall so they added it to make sure it didn’t.
Actually in the new design, the engine was moved ahead so the nose would point too high. The software called MCAS got glitched because of a faulty sensor so it pushed the nose down even though the nose didnt point up.
The problem with all the 737 max’s or the 737-8200 ( same plane ) is that the software after takeoff kept on telling the pilots that the plane was crashing so they needed to crash, the pilots knew they weren’t crashing so they ignored it, so the software would crash the plane for them. The plane got grounded for 2 years. They are safe now. The awful thing is that the pilots didn’t know about the software.
@Parcywarchoverclock hes spreading misinformation theres no 737-8200, if he meant the 737-800, that isnt the same as the 737 max series + "telling the pilots that the plane was crashing so they needed to crash"???? he makes no sense
TLDR: Airbus made a better plane with a larger engine (A320 -> A320neo) and Boeing had to do the same to keep up, but their mini planes, the 737 were too low to the ground therefore they couldn’t fit a bigger engine under their wing. They put the bigger engine higher up on the wing and that is why it climbs at a steeper angle
The software was called MCAS, what happened it was caused by the pitot tubes(they mesure the angle(attack angle)speed and altitude)(they are the tiny tubes in the front of the aircraft) the aircraft’s pitot tubes have to be covered with a red rectangle that says: remove before flight, they didn’t put this in the pitot tube that measures the angle and the aircraft thought they could stall(the aircrafts need air to flow in the wings, the wings are shaped so the create a force called lift)and it pulled down the nose. (another flight had the same problem but they solved it by just turning off the horizontal stabilizers and could land safely), can you pin me so the rest of the people can understand this?
I know you arent going to respond but boeing is literally as safe as airbus when it comes to age, boeing is 100 years old while airbus is like 50 years old and didnt have a max production of planes, obviously airbus will have a better safety record
@@Londresslevenski104 I am with avation from a long time now an I have observed that it's Boeing planes that often get crashed! Anyways, don't take it so seriously. Today, aviation has gotten far safe than before!
@@sanchogodinho please read my comment, I states that boeing is OLDER than airbus and has mass produced more aircraft, more aircraft = more crashes. Boeing is as safe as airbus
The reason MCAS existed was due to the new engines that were larger and higher above the wing than the old engines that caused a different center of gravity that made the aircraft have a nose up feel and MCAS was to make that feel like it never existed and lion air flight 610 and Ethiopian flight 302 were caused by a angle of attack sensor that froze if I'm correct I forget since it's been years
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The worst thing about this is that Boeing never told their pilots about the system
LION AIR didn't tell them* (now realising 6 months later how stupid as hell i was eith this comment)
@@tomatimahl no boeing didn't tell them
@@tomatimahl Boeing made that aircraft
@@tomatimahl no Boeing made the aircraft
Probably an experiment
I remember this story. For the longest, Boeing tried to blame the crash on pilot error. The pilot kept trying to turn the system off that was causing the issue, but it wouldn’t disengage. Those poor pilots knew exactly what was happening, and were completely powerless, and a ton of innocent, clueless people were taken too early, and their memory was completely disrespected by a company trying to avoid accountability.
Yes. The owner is notorious for being...
Yeag
💯
Fifteen tons of helpless people
That’s when I whent to Maui on a 737 max😢😢😢
The worst thing was: the pilots had NO IDEA that such a system existed.
Some pilots did but they weren't given much training
I don't think so that the pilots didn't know about the software but they didn't know how to fix the software problem in that panic situation....
@@dp_hridayan from what I saw they weren’t given a briefing on the system at all…
@@J.A_Music No the pilot definitely knew about the software that tips the front part , because on normal other days the plane automatically tips down its front to maintain the altitude so pilot must have known that the software tips down the front part to maintain, but that day the software didn't stop , it kept tipping the front until the plane crashed
They knew the software exist but didnt know how to turn off, the same plane from previous flight had the similar problem but the pilot at that time turn off the system quickly before they dive into ground
“If it’s Boein’
I ain’t goin’
Instead of flyin’
We’ll be dyin’”
😂
please translate அவர்கள் வாழ்க்கையைப் பெறுவதற்கு தயவுசெய்து போட்களை நிறுத்துங்கள்
i went on a boeing 737 recently, and it was very safe, why everyone comparing boeing and airbus
Good one you made there
@@germoney_istkool 737 is safe but the 737 MAX is not
The pilots didn’t know it existed so they couldn’t deactivate it. You explained it pretty well, but I just wanna fill in that when the nose points too high, the risk for an aerodynamic stall increases a ton. So Boeing made the mcas system to reduce the risk of a stall but it wasn’t even properly programmed.
The only reason they did software instead of reengineering it was money
The indicators didnt work properly, so the pilots side of PFD (primary flight display) would malfunction, and the MCAS was run by pilots sode of PFD.
I understand there was an option for dual mcas, but the airline decided against it, declaring cost issues.
They actually could deactivate it, as one pilot did.
It was programmed properly, the 2 accidents were caused due to broken AOA(Angle of attack) sensors at the nose. Which prompted Boeing to add 2 instead of 1 at the nose further securing the plane.
This is very unfortunate for the people who were traveling on the plane, may they rest in peace.
430 likes and no reply? I gotcha
@@VexMapper shaddap
@@VexMapper Thanks to all of you for liking my comment 🙏
@@specops5610 You shut up.
If you think the landing is hard, it's really hard when it hits a mountain at half mach 1
If anyone is wondering, the software is called MCAS (Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System).
The system did not allow the crew to override it. The system forced the plane into the sea. In other crashes, an angle of attack sensor outside the aircraft malfunctioned and again the flight crew was not able to physically pull the stick back to correct the attitude. Stupid management and engineering.
There was actually a switch the pilots could have switched to override MCAS that Boeing never said anything about. A singular sensor was used to measure the pitch and the speed, but that likely got damaged by a BALOON. Shame on Boeing.
Thanks fellow friend who h has the same interests as me
Or, aka money comes above safety.
May Crash Any Second
I heard “Boeing” and i had heard enough. Obviously dude, it’s a Boeing! RIP pilots, crew, and passengers ❤
iTs A bOeInG
@@MBTracModdingmf u can't be mocking that guy where Boeings plane crashes counts about 529 , I can already tell u love Boeing 747
@@thechilly1-2The 747 is quite lovely yeah. Although my fav one is definitely the A340-600.
You just can‘t be saying every Boeing is trash just bcs of the 737 Max. Stop talking gibberish kid and grow up.
May everyone on board of this plane rest in peace. This accident is also very similar to the 2019 Ethiopian Airlines 737 max crash which involved in this as well.
Pilots that Flight this aircraft find out and decided to turn off the MCAS system and this is something about wings but at the back and they Done this by hands and didnt worked and crashed
@@Lutek21 Ikr
這次我真的會想讓我們成為你自己嗎、但不是很重要❗️、在一起是因為我們是自己來吧⋯⋯在家工作會議將焦點😢。。。。
@@Lutek21dude do you even proofread the stuff you write? That was complete and utter gibberish
Amen
The worst part is that another plane, Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, crashed only four months after this incident due to the exact same fault.
Is this the same thing that created so much buzz about Boeing on the internet recently?
@@Mohta_mischiefyes
@Mohta_mischief This was back then when 737 MAX just entered service and after that incident many countries ban the MAX from their airspace until Boeing reconfigure the system, the recent buzz about Boeing is a different story about their newer planes fuselage didn't meet the safety standard or smth, its started when one of their plane has their door being ripped out mid flight and their former worker / whistleblower who raised concern about the issue beforehand found dead by 'suicide'
Boeing has had people killed that tried to speak out against these faults
Crazy Ethiopia agreed to allow Boeing to build a manufacturing facility in Ethiopia.
MCAS: Money Comes Above Safety
PIN THIS GUY
Yeah
yes and it actually
might crash any second
Real :(
Exactly, and it's why I hate flying.
This is the scariest thing ever happened to Indonesia because you can hear the sound of plane crashing to the sea. And some people can see when the event occuring.🥀 Rest In Peace
“Pilots don’t die,they just fly higher” sad
@@magikarp653 meaning: they were flying cuz they were pilots, but since they died, they flew higher till the reached heaven.
I HAVE THE POWER OF 100 LIKES
"Pilots don't die, they die."
@@Officer_Liberty a plane is holier than church
No they die
I remember this story, Boeing ended up creating a button that could turn off that feature
There was before but pilots were not trained how to
@@_Mintyz_ of course not. Training takes time on the clock and time is money. Wouldn’t want to spend a few hundred to prevent a few customers losing their lives would we?
@@Marynicole830 you realize that Boeing never expect mcas too do this so training in their defense is not that necessary. Yes it quickly became their fault after the second accident happened
@@_Mintyz_ They had MCAS turn on based ONLY on the Angle of attack, which came from ONE sensor, you never base something that powerful on one sensor, also the switch to turn off MCAS was installed from the start, but pilots had to realize what was happening, find the book, find where it talks about MCAS, and turn off MCAS in 30 seconds or you are doomed
@@ZyghqwyvThe pilots decided to turn MCAS back on after they turned it off. It is just mind boggling to me that these pilots would make such a decision.
"Boeing lied, and people died."
Edit-tysm for 18k Likes(i dont check my youtoob notifications😂)
Heard the word malfuction? Idot
@@LeonSaberYTEver heard of the word “Spelling?” Yea, Didn’t think so.
@@LeonSaberYTIt’s “Malfunction” learn to spell 💀😂
@@LeonSaberYT Ever hear don't judge a book by its cover? Boeing kept this new software a "secret" so they won't have to spend money for new training for pilots.
“Idot”
I'm an Indonesian, just fyi, the plane wasn't took off from Jakarta but from Soekarno-Hatta International Airport which is located at Tangerang that exactly next to Jakarta. But still, Respect to the pilot that has tries their best, and RIP for all the passenger😞
I swear boeing didn't deserve to be known
tapi bandara masuk ke teritory jakarta, sama kayak KLIA ga termasuk di jakarta tapi di sepang bukan KL
"you see the plane they were flying was a boeing-"
Ive heard enough
lol fr
Being 73- throws My phone
Rt
@@iveriiver Boing*
@@lucasgaming61Boeing*
My auntie actually almost got in this exact flight but thank the good lorde she missed it, i remember the moment so vividly we were all so shocked when it happened.
That's Jesus
Jesus Needed to use her more mate, Rip for the people on the plane
Why the hell do people say you need Jesus to random person. You don't know his/her religion
@@trainstuff286its her damn auntie, he knows her bro.
@@jolleerancherswagmanI mean her religion might be Islam because the majority of Indonesian people is Muslim
The worst part is Boeing tried to blame the pilots
How convenient that its a boeing
Not every plane crash is Boeings fault
@@Thepilot-yj6mw"T0p 10 lies I beliēved when gr0wing up".
@@sharkitasokx :|
@@Thepilot-yj6mw It always is tho.
For anyone wondering, planes are STILL the safest way to travel, a plane crash is almost impossible
The Safest Way To Travel Is By A Train And Not By Plane.
@ (long distance travels)
@Mr-HiJacket- We talking about long distance travel, not medium.
@@ElliotEzrah Still Train, Did You Ever Know That the Longest Railway Line In The World Is Stretches Over 9,289 Km, Connecting China, Mongolia, North Korea to Moscow and Vladivostok and the Kazakhstan Region?
@FM_604 Still Train, Did You Ever Know That the Longest Railway Line In The World Is Stretches Over 9,289 Km, Connecting China, Mongolia, North Korea to Moscow and Vladivostok and the Kazakhstan Region?
But Still, You Can't Say Plane Crash It's Almost Impossible Even For A Long Distance Travels.
my friend died in this accident 😢
leaving his wife and 2 month old daughter
rest in peace my friend
@@OskarSolosdid boeing get any punishment?
Sorry to hear that
Sorry to hear that..😢
@@RefRed_King Nope
@@OskarSolosI'm not sure if that makes it any better
As an Indonesian, this news spread like wild fire. I heard about it and soon kept seeing videos of the Lion Air Airline, and some pilots have to say that the problem was not the pilots skills or the Lion Air, but just a malfunction on the plane. Lots of people stopped to go on a Lion air Airplane again because they were scared. But soon it went back to normal because they were finally confinced it was just a software malfunction.
@@alaricmattop Kak, sesama warga Indonesia bukannya menghakimi tapi saling mengasihi dong kak
@@alaricmattop As an Indonesian as well, you represent us horribly. Bikin malu aja wkwk
@@naki051komennya dihapus. Emang dia ngomong apa bg wkwk
@@rezafathoni03 Lupa jg wkwk, kykx bilang "im Indonesian and no one cares if you're Indonesian"
🗿
May every soul on board rest in peace 😢
Yes. All plane crazy victims
@@alexfinns6162"plane crazy" bro what do you mean by that? you think this is fake?
Omg its you im a huge fan
@@Drip_288 a big fan of who?
Me
I miss them 😢 rest in peace!
When my sister's 8 hour flight from Singapore to Philippines were only 45 minutes away, the plane made a U-turn back to Singapore just to ensure safety due to the weather conditions
The conditions were that bad??
@@FunLandlord well maybe bc its more safe as Singaporeans don't want any accident( i taking a guess)
Isn't a flight from Manila-Singapore like, 3 hours???
@@soup612 probaly using older slower plane
@@aryandrasetiawan5386 probably like some beechcraft plane or cessna
Im is indonesian and yes that sad my grandmother is dead from that accident
Fly high grandma
1950-2018
Were there any compensation nor even an lawsuit against those who made the mistake?
@@anyasilverash6053it was airplane manufacturer error so it would be pretty hard to sue the company Boeing
I'm sorry but I couldn't resist
"Flyyyy highhhh free birddd"
Rest in Peace, I'm so Sorry for your Loss 😢
Hate the fact that companies do things like this and walk out of it unscathed
It was even sadder because the co-pilot asked “should we return?”
Dang
@@Senjen_aviation You know you're lonely in school if you actually like Ryth 😂😂😂💀🪦🪦🪦
@@Senjen_aviation nigga also subscribed to manni show 😂😂😂😂😂😂💀🪦👼👼👼👼
@@okaydudeidontcare you know your lonely irl if you have Time to “roast” me
@@Senjen_aviation
Hehe somebody has a thin skin.
Keep moisturizing it to stop the burn
That reason is mcas. It dips the planes nose to prevent stalling but it malfunctioned causing it to slam into the ground. Multiple planes did this but it was fixed and is now safe
Last words from pilots: “God is the Greatest!”
I know that!
Yes, He said "Allahu Akbar" which means God is Greatest
Innalillahi wa innailaihi rajiwun 😥
GOD IS GOOOD, GOD IS GREEEATT
@sirslugs Lion Air planes come from Indonesia, and the majority of Indonesians are Muslim, and the JT 610 pilot said "Allahu Akbar" at the end of his life because he was Muslim.
As a indonesian, I remember this being on the news for a few weeks. The scary part is that when it crashed, the airplane and the passengers vanished, and it took 2 or more weeks just to find the black box. Probably the reason why I don't travel over seas.
Airplanes are the safest transport than any type of transportation you have higher chance of dying from car or motorcycles accident than in an airplanes but that didnt apply if you fly with lion air 😅😅😅
@@ahmedsadamalhadid5930 that's why I prefer Garuda more than othe aircrafts in Indonesia
@@ahmedsadamalhadid5930i always used lion air to travel around indonesia😅
Why u indicating you are Indonesian lol
Sadly avoiding flying is extremely difficult for Indonesian, because it consists of tens of thousands of islands. I'm Indonesian too, and I travel via plane almost every month for work so like it or not, I have to fly to keep my job.
I recommend watching videos from *Mentour Pilot* on UA-cam. Watching in depth videos that explains why plane accidents happened and how things are prevented actually helps me. Like the other commenter said, flying is actually a lot saver than driving.
Software engineer: It's just a minor bug
The bug:
Every time i refresh my youtube page, I see this guy's video
For more context, Boeing knew how powerful the software was, but wanted the MAX to be released sooner, so they lied about it so pilot's wouldn't need extra training. It was tied to a single angle-of-attack indicator that is hardly safe from debris impacts, ice damage, and glitches, and when the AoA went haywire, the automation went haywire.
Thanks for info
Boeing went from the Titans of Air Transport and Military Industries, to an Untrustworthy Company who assassinated a Whistleblower. Worst of all, The US Government or even the US military will never crackdown on such a company. Gotta love corruption.
Impressive knowledge
May they rest in peace.
Corporate greed killed them.
good
@@gpt-jcommentbot4759 💀
@@vertus977 we need them to rest in peace
@gpt-jcommentbot4759 I mean it's a tragedy but it was good that it exposed a huge problem with Boeing and their greed
@Higamers2007 True,
But it is bad when people pay with their lives 😔 😪
Boeing better have gotten nailed in a lawsuit. This is crazy
They (boing) have to pay 500 millions to all the families and another 2000 millions to Airlines
2.5 Billions total
That's what they said.
@@guillermovigil5883 that's crazy!
Boeing literally lose trust from airlines and thus lose $20 billion in direct costs and further $60 billion in indirect costs
@@guillermovigil5883which, usd or rupiah?
@@guillermovigil58832000 millions is not a thing 💀
The moment I heard "Boeing" I had no more questions.
I just watched a documentary on the 737 MAX 8 and 9. They installed the software Zach talked about called MCAS. They didn't tell the pilots anything about this and they didn't know this was installed. Which led to this crash, And the I think Emirates 320 flight crashed for the same reason. The device was on the side and would break from birds, balloons, etc. And the scariest part is that the bodies were never found. They grounded the plane and it came back in 2020 and no crashes have been reported since the rerelease.
me too
The other plane that crashed due to MCAS was an Ethiopian 737 MAX 8, Emirates never operated any A320s
@@planebrosaviation I know
@@planebrosaviationWhere did you get an A320 from flight 320? You do realize flight numbers are different from the plane
@@Adumzzinthehouse Oh, I thought of the A320, not the flight number 320, sorry
Those poor people 🕊️🕊️🕊️
I remember this incident. I am Indonesian an at that time I was having a holiday. I heard the news from my parents. At that time I was just fine, until I heard that an older student from the same school as I am was on that plane. When we came back to school we all prayed for him. He was going back home after a holiday too, with his dad and brother. His mom stayed home so she would be the one receiving the terrible news. 😔
That’s so sad.
Omg may they rest in peace 🕊
Rip
Bro that entire woman's Family just died 😭 Nobody deserves that
I feel your sadness too, my friend also passed away on that flight.
MORE PLANE FACTS PLS. I really love planes ✈️
May their souls rest in peace. More power to their loved ones. May they heal and stay strong. I can't imagine the pain of not being even able to give them a proper ceremony or say a proper goodbye.
Saying "yah we get it" is not respectful at all. Not even a bit. People died in such a tragic way and thats your words to them. Be more respectful.
By the way, I am Indonesian.
@@李缘杏 o
R.I.P all the people who were in the plane.
That's why my phobia is the plane
@@Mr.goooooooogle dw the chances are low only 11k planes crashed in history
@@CHECKMYPROFILETOGETFREEROBUXblud really said "only", but still, it's scary tho
@@CHECKMYPROFILETOGETFREEROBUX I know, in fact accident car chance are higher than plane, but I still felt scary at high
Black box found, revealed that pilot had no idea about the system, let alone the malfunction. Boeing being the best to trying to kill their pilot
not entirely Boeing's fault.
just needed better training so the pilots knew how to use the system; mostly lion's fault
@@dtheall86Are you high? BOEING did NOT even disclose the software to airlines. It was only brought up after the accident. How would pilots and airlines know about this software when it was not disclosed in the first place.
@@styren2815
1. I cannot legally drink
2. you have a point, thanks for letting me know
@@styren2815 still isnt mainly Boeing's fault, its Lion Air's fault mainly, Boeing partly gets the fault because they kept MCAS a secret.
@@OfficialDoggyYTwhat are YOU smoking
Awsome
Tomorow i have a flight 👍
"So what was the problem? Well the plane was a boeing-"
That's kinda all we needed lol
Boeing CEO made $38.5 million in salary last year! 😮
Imagine that.
That’s all I needed to know about that company also.
🤡🤡🤡
When the man said the nose kept on dipping, I already knew what model of the plane it was, Rest in Peace all the people on the plane.
I am from the country where this plane accident happened ( Indonesia ) and as a plane lover myself and who wants to fly a plane one day, like no joke the entire world was like targeting our country.
I mean they had good reasons for it: Most Airlines from Indonesia Air Banned in the EU, The airline, Lion Air , didn’t have a good safety record and the airline also payed investigators to not go against them.
But, the fricken Boeing company didn’t want to make them at fault for the incident so, they just said it was a manual error and that the pilots didn’t react how they were supposed to act.
Dang
Exactly, I'm an Indonesian too and it is concerncing how far the steps will be taken by those greedy corpos for their own advantage. They don't care about safety, they don't care about ethics, only money, money, and money. It's really irritating and maddening.
My grandpa was in that plane and passed away... may you rest in peace🙏🙏🙏
At this point I'm convinced that flying in a Boeing is the same as attempting suicide
Only bad news gets traction, so news outlets only put out the bad.
Exactly, you’ll feel safer on spirit who’s only have bad employees or “ghetto” yet it has no fatal crashes.
Oh you haven't heard? Boeing's long gone, it's McDonnell Douglas that's operating under the Boeing name
Me: Getting ready to fly for the first time
YTShorts:
Did you survive ? ❤
@@bluescorpion7 I didn't fly yet. I'm flying in like a year 😭 but I am so excited to finally visit another country that I already started learning about flights
@@milyenderman7104To make you feel better, you’re WAY more likely to die in a car accident compared to a plane accident. I myself flew probably over 50+ times so far.
@@musiccrusader1353 now how is this human being supposed to get to the airport without the fear of a car accident too?
@@musiccrusader1353 Thanks, that's a lot of flights :O
Rest in Peace to All the Victims of this Airplane Crash, My condolences to the families!🕊️♥️
😐
I’m pretty sure some of their family’s are dead
Because my grandparents parents died years ago
Zack is slowly starting to become an avgeek
The software was called MCAS (Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System)
“It was a boeing 737”
“Well no shit”
😂
Poor Poilets
The plain's nose has got down 👇 and
That plane crashed into the sea 😢.
@@aparna9132poilets 💀💀
@@aparna9132
"Plain's" 💀
@@aparna9132bro telling exactly what happen in the video with typo language
“Safety is our priority here at Boeing"
"Yeah, totally!"
this crash wasnt mainly Boeing's fault smart^ss, its mainly Lion Air's fault
@@OfficialDoggyYTit was 90% Boeing
@@OfficialDoggyYT you dint watch the whole video right?
@@Spmstudios2122 lol no it was mainly Lion Air’s fault, partly Boeing for not addressing MCAS
Rest and peace that died😢😢😢😢
It happened more than once from the 737-Max. Multiple crashes and thousands of deaths. They grounded the planes for ages and there software has been fixed and are safely flying in the air now.
And now Air India has ordered around 800 boeing planes . I wonder Tata took decision to order it because he got it for cheap price as these models are rejected models.
@@MeowMelodyy source?
@@beluga2857 Google it
@@MeowMelodyy Bro, boeing is the most safe and reliable plane company, they have been the best planes since ww2. You cant say the whole company is bad for just a mistaken model.
@@Zebercettin I'm talking about boeing 737 max which was grounded all over the world.
I had a friend on that flight RIP my good friend i will never forget you 😭
Edit: if you think im lying than leave me alone how would you feel if a person you loved died and you got called a liar HUH
Sorry
Bot.
@@kupini901 Bro my friend died and your calling me A bot Are you kidding me 😭
@@expertplayer6417 what do you mean
@@kupini901you’re fucked up
Boeing needs to be sued for this. The pilots also should have not took off if there was clearly a problem.
Sue boeing!
That’s the thing, you can only tell there’s a problem after you take off
@@Joker-em6oz he said the nose kept dipping during the ascent. At that point you should immediately try and land, even if it's not back on the run way. I'd much rather land in trees than the ocean where they all died
Boeing didn’t even disclose that to the pilots about the changes of max as they found it was not worth mentioning ..
@@saki...7443 The pilots didn't know how to turn off MCAS + how tf do you land without crashing when your nose is 45 degrees pitched down , -2000 fpm and cant recover
Thats why it is safe to use manual instead of ai for the high risk jobs😢
They trusted a software than an engineer☠️💀
Boeing didn’t tell pilots about this software installed
they trusted 9 lines of stackoverflow code instead of re-engineering the plane, which is what they should've done: Re-engineer the plane
That terrible ,hearing those stories is simply heartbreaking 💔
Boeing CEO made $38.5 million in salary last year! 😮
Imagine that.
While they’re planes crash by the dozen every year.
That’s all I needed to know about that company!
@@heavenlycity777IDC
For more context: this was when a new CEO came and ruined boeing by making it only money focused. Airlines buying from Boeing at that time claimed to have found strange objects in planes as far as findong ladders inside. This is because like I said earlier, they were super money based and wouldn't take out the ladder.
EDIT: Being money-focused, it was much more affordable for them to add software than make a redesign. Also, the CEO knew fully that an accident like this were to happen.
My dad died in this crash. Maybe without him out of the picture i wouldn't have such a destroyed life that i have right now...
This is why i always get a lil scared when i gotta go on vacation.
Me too
Just don’t go on any fly by wire plane
@@peeperleviathan2839impossible
@@peeperleviathan2839 That would be counterproductive
air travel is one of the safest forms of travel. as a frequent flyer, i'm not dead yet.
"So what went wrong?"
"Well the plane they were flying was a Boeing 737 Max."
That statement alone is enough for me to know why it crashed.
this crash was mainly the airline's fault what are u yapping about?
@@OfficialDoggyYT How much did Boeing pay you to make that comment?
@@OfficialDoggyYTHow stupid can you be Doggie doggie Doggie ??? 3 Boeing 737 Max 8 in just 4 months in Indonesia, Ethopia and Alaska all had a crush and killer all he passangers because of that new and failed Boeing 737 Max 8 system'. Got it ???
I actually remembered when I watched a documentary on this problem it was because Boeing wanted to get more customers than Airbus so they just cutted the engine of the previous Boeing 727 in half and did some fixing to show us that they were capable of making a new plane faster than any. But removing the ends of the engines was the problem that led to raising or lowering the tip of the plane more than usual. They thought they would overcome the problem by sensors but luck wasn't with these guys because their sensors were malfunctioned.
What
@@erikmiller2912 Just read bruh
@@ibrahimgultekin1366everything is wrong. The engines were made bigger. They were raised
This is not true. The 727 and 737 were launched in the same decade (1960-1970
If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going.
@@Munda_Shehar_Lahore_Da Then "If It's Airbus, I'm Taking Bus"
As a jakarta citizen, this must be really scary
Sad and terrifying at the same time 😢
This is why you always have to double check in order to avoid tragedy 🤧😔
But they didn't know about the system(the pilots) and they would have to take off to know about the "problem"
"...the plane they were flying was Boeing..."
understandable.
Lesson: You should never take the shortcut to succeed, you just need to work hard
No
@@Kyorei bro boeing caused 2 crashes in months thats def not normal for an airplane
@@pakde3459 idc about plane that lesson is bs
Just stop throwing a stone in someone else internet and life.
@@gegebubsjnsu6505what
The 737 is such a widely used aircraft for civilian national transport and yet it has a rocky safety record and has had many deaths related to it
..because it’s so widely used. It’s literally everywhere. If you have more planes, you’re more likely to have more crashes
its not really unsafe, its just that so many have been built, around 11000
The 737 is not the problem, the 737 MAX is the problem, putting bigger engines on the 737 is stupid, the ground clearance isn't there unlike the A320neo.
many of those deaths were never mainly Boeing's fault
@@AnimMouse it isnt stupid its actually smart to put the engine higher up, a simple fix to the pitch up problem would be to trim the aircraft.
I pray they all rest in peace
Crashing into the sea is one of my biggest fears ever
This is such a sad thing for them may they rest in peace. I really support Indonesia since Im Filipino.
The malfunction was due to one of the two A.O.A sensors (Angle of Attack Sensor) that were installed (one of them was replaced early, but wasn't calibrated) so the software (MCAS (Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System)) thinked that the AOA was 25° degrees more up that it really was so it moved the stabilizer at the end of the plane (Boeing just used only one of the two sensors, in this case it was the non-calibrated sensor), also, that non-calibrated sensor failed in another plane with a 60° degrees difference between the two sensors
Actually i know more than that but i wanted to resume the info
Same happened to that Ethiopia plane, because of the Boeing 737 MAX
Yeah but it happened on 2019
@@Ryu1478it was 5 months after
diingetin😭😭 semoga yang ada di pesawat itu udah tenang di alam sana
R.I.P. to all the people that was aboard❤
It was a Boeing 737 max 8 because the engines are
above the wings that causes for the plane to go vertical so Boeing installed this thing in the stabilizer to make it go down the pilots on this flight did not know how to cut it off
@@CoolBanana13 stop wasting your tome
@@CoolBanana13 my guy do you know about typos?
You should add that Boeing already fixed the issue after the aircraft was grounded for years. MCAS wasn’t the wrong part it was more that Boeing didn’t inform the crews well enough about it and they should have get trained for it .
Actually no, it didn’t malfunction, Boeing just didn’t train the pilots, so they continuously fought against it which caused it to go into a nosedive, also the reason they added it was because at the angle it took off at, there was a chance the plane would stall so they added it to make sure it didn’t.
Nope. They didn't fight against it. Check ur facts.
@@GamingwithTYahear Or you could…
Actually in the new design, the engine was moved ahead so the nose would point too high. The software called MCAS got glitched because of a faulty sensor so it pushed the nose down even though the nose didnt point up.
The problem with all the 737 max’s or the 737-8200 ( same plane ) is that the software after takeoff kept on telling the pilots that the plane was crashing so they needed to crash, the pilots knew they weren’t crashing so they ignored it, so the software would crash the plane for them. The plane got grounded for 2 years. They are safe now. The awful thing is that the pilots didn’t know about the software.
wtf are you going on about
@Parcywarchoverclock hes spreading misinformation theres no 737-8200, if he meant the 737-800, that isnt the same as the 737 max series + "telling the pilots that the plane was crashing so they needed to crash"???? he makes no sense
You learnt aviation from the kfc toilet
@@Piez7ryanair 737 max are 737-8200
@@user-e-idk No, they are diffrent in many ways. lol
“The plane was a Boeing 7-“
“Understandable, have a nice day” 💀💀
bro keeps using the skull emoji of sad vidoes
As an indonesian i can confirm that was sad 😢
TLDR: Airbus made a better plane with a larger engine (A320 -> A320neo) and Boeing had to do the same to keep up, but their mini planes, the 737 were too low to the ground therefore they couldn’t fit a bigger engine under their wing. They put the bigger engine higher up on the wing and that is why it climbs at a steeper angle
The thing that broke was AOA indicator not the software
Not me who’s flying to a Country in a week watching this 💀
Me too
Tell how it goes
Did u survive
Plane crashes are rarer than car crashes I think they crash every 1M flights [correct if I'm wrong.]. So, you're safe!!
The software was called MCAS, what happened it was caused by the pitot tubes(they mesure the angle(attack angle)speed and altitude)(they are the tiny tubes in the front of the aircraft) the aircraft’s pitot tubes have to be covered with a red rectangle that says: remove before flight, they didn’t put this in the pitot tube that measures the angle and the aircraft thought they could stall(the aircrafts need air to flow in the wings, the wings are shaped so the create a force called lift)and it pulled down the nose. (another flight had the same problem but they solved it by just turning off the horizontal stabilizers and could land safely), can you pin me so the rest of the people can understand this?
Zach voice during normal videos : 🙂🙃😅😇
Zach voice during spooky videos : 😨😦💀👺
That's why I feel unsafe traveling in a Boeing plane
Why? They made the MCAS less aggressive, plus there is a feature to turn it off
I know you arent going to respond but boeing is literally as safe as airbus when it comes to age, boeing is 100 years old while airbus is like 50 years old and didnt have a max production of planes, obviously airbus will have a better safety record
@@Londresslevenski104 I am with avation from a long time now an I have observed that it's Boeing planes that often get crashed!
Anyways, don't take it so seriously. Today, aviation has gotten far safe than before!
@@sanchogodinho please read my comment, I states that boeing is OLDER than airbus and has mass produced more aircraft, more aircraft = more crashes. Boeing is as safe as airbus
@@Londresslevenski104 I know, I read it.
It was what I used to feel about Boeing!
Although, as you saw in this video, it is a bit scary what they do!
bros showing me this 24 days before i get on a plane, thanks man💀
Very low chance you crash, just saying.
@@ninethetwotailedfoxi feel like ik you from a comment in a flee vid 😭
@@Plastic-lo2xd that is a crazy coincidence, nice to meet you.
its madness, when my father was about to go on a boeing i was begging him not to, i hate that airline.
As An Indonesian, This Is A Sad Story
The reason MCAS existed was due to the new engines that were larger and higher above the wing than the old engines that caused a different center of gravity that made the aircraft have a nose up feel and MCAS was to make that feel like it never existed and lion air flight 610 and Ethiopian flight 302 were caused by a angle of attack sensor that froze if I'm correct I forget since it's been years
Bro why did UA-cam recommend me this,I’m going on a plane soon 😭😭😭
Plane: I wanna go down
People: NO
Plane: oh no..
**everyone dies**