The History of The Cubical Quad Antenna for Ham Radio

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
  • The story of how the Cubical Quad antenna came into being is a fascinating one. It was created out of necessity following an emergency call for help from radio station HCJB back in the early 1940s. HCJB was located high on the mountains of Ecuador. Their new upgraded 10Kw transmitter was literally setting their antenna system on fire. As a result, this Christian radio station (in the words of W9LZX) "received divine intervention. This "intervention" heralded the birth of a new and unique antenna. It was given the title of "Cubical Quad," and the word spread quickly among the Ham Radio community. Was it a genuine antenna with amazing gain or simply a hoax?
    We take a look at how this antenna was conceived and developed.
    00:00 - Opening
    00:53 - The Birth Place
    01:27 - The Power Increase
    02:18 - How the antenna began to nelt and catch fire.
    04:58 - The Emergency Call.
    -5:50 - The Concept of the New Antenna.
    06"40 - The Loop is born.
    07:26 - Would this new design work?
    08:09 - Ham operators test it out
    08:40 - How much gain and F/B ratio?
    11:28 - Feeding the Antenna
    12:30 - Angle of radiation.
    13:56 - The physical structure.
    17:03 - Multiband design
    19:08 - Dimensions
    19:52 - The Mini Quad
    22:43 - Is it worth the effort?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 37

  • @norbertstepien9185
    @norbertstepien9185 27 днів тому +4

    I operated with a 5 band cubical quad in the 90's and it was the best antenna I've ever experienced. It is an imposing structure and I had to abandon it when I moved from my QTH, but I hold fond memories of its unrivaled performance.

  • @mikesmith5139
    @mikesmith5139 17 днів тому

    Hi Peter. A brilliant video. Thanks! I vaguely remember the story of the cubical quad at HCJB, so it is so very good to watch your excellent presentation which filled in all the details. When I had my first 'proper' shortwave receiver, back in the early 1980's, HCJB - Herald Christ Jesus Blessings - was one of the stations that I initially received. I listened regularly. The station even sent me an HCJB pennant when I submitted a reception report. Happy days! Thanks again Peter. 73, Mike M0MTJ

  • @g0fvt
    @g0fvt 27 днів тому +2

    Thank you Peter for the more complete history, I had not heard about the actual noise nuisance of the corona discharge before. In the early 1970s a friend and I pestered my father (A G3) for the dimensions for a band 2 3 element quad. We made one from scrap aluminium extrusion from double glazing and bits retrieved from old band 1 TV aerials. Absolutely stunning results, we had no means to produce scientific data but we did find we could null out local VHF stations to listen to more distant ones. Later on my father did build a 6 element cubical quad for 2m, a very light and compact antenna. 73

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  27 днів тому

      Thanks for sharing - very interesting.

  • @dandypoint
    @dandypoint 27 днів тому +2

    You must have the same book I do! All About Cubical Quad Antennas by William I Orr W6SAI ! Great book.
    I have worked a bit with Quads with several friends. One was a full size 4 element tri band 20/15/10 meter monster at 60 feet. Worked good but it was replaced with mono band Yagis eventually. Another was a fixed 40 meter quad hanging from trees. Worked good but was eventually replaced with a Yagi. I built and used several Quagi antennas for UHF satellite work some years ago. Quad reflector, Quad driven element with 5 or 12 Yagi type directors. The 7 element Quagi worked good but the 14 element version was too directive and I had a hard time keeping it aimed at the satellite! I presently have a 2 meter two element quad in my garage to work the local repeaters. I have also used it for ISS APRS work. The Quad is safer than a Yagi when handling as you won’t poke your eye out! I explain a quad element as being two halfwave dipoles spaced 1/4 wave apart. With the ends of the top one bent down and the bottom one bent up to touch the top one. Gain has to be less than the two straight dipoles spaced at 1/4 wave, thus the approximate 1 dB figure.
    I personally think the quad being quieter than the Yagi is a myth. Noise is electromagnetic radiation and there is no reason a good antenna would or could discriminate between noise and desired signal except due to directivity.

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  27 днів тому +1

      Many thanks. Interesting content. 73 Peter

  • @wshanney
    @wshanney 27 днів тому +2

    I had a triband quad around 1990 at 45'. It replaced a triband Yagi. It had about the same gain but it was very quiet and had terrific front-to-side isolation...W6QR

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  27 днів тому +1

      Many thanks. Seems to be the general opinion.

  • @jacianmcgurk7424
    @jacianmcgurk7424 26 днів тому +1

    I still get some noise on mine when it rains hard which has been a lot recently lol.
    Great video Peter
    Cheers

  • @fnordist
    @fnordist 27 днів тому +2

    What's particularly interesting is that when multiple quad elements are excited with different phases, it's possible to generate even higher forward-to-backward ratios and less sidelobes. e.g 1/4wl apart, 84 and 71 degree phasing lines. 6el quad ( reflector, phase 84, 1/4wl space, - phase 71 - director 1, director 2, director 3. Provides about 4 dB more gain than a standard quad.

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  27 днів тому

      Sounds like a mechanical challenge for HF, but interesting.

    • @fnordist
      @fnordist 27 днів тому

      @@watersstanton This can be achieved using five booms, with four placed around the perimeter and one in the center, all supported by crossbeams.

  • @ZAR797
    @ZAR797 26 днів тому +1

    Very interesting history of this antenna. Thanks from South Africa

  • @darbymathis7670
    @darbymathis7670 26 днів тому +2

    So much information/wisdom given, enjoy your videos so much. Always causes me to think and reason when i see your presentations. Thank you for what your do!! I've built some quads for VHF portable ops...much fun. God bless, 73 WD9M

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  26 днів тому

      Wow, thank you! 73 Peter

    • @AlexejSvirid
      @AlexejSvirid 26 днів тому

      The problem is Devil runs the world. He is lier and murderer. This is the reason why Hitler got the power, but Christ was executed as "blasphemer" and "rioter" by denunciation of clergy. This is the reason why the whole world is Sodom.
      That's why we've got the Gospel about the God's kingdom. Jehovah would put everything in order. The dead will be resurected and we'll meet our loved ones again! :-)

  • @adzbasslines268
    @adzbasslines268 26 днів тому +1

    I could just imagine 1kW of power at close proximity (frequency depentant) could keep him warmed from the inside out on his motorcycle in winter time :P

  • @robertallbright
    @robertallbright 27 днів тому +1

    Another good one Peter
    Thankyou 73 Robert G3RCE

  • @davidwalle5025
    @davidwalle5025 25 днів тому +1

    Good job Peter

  • @johnallsopp8260
    @johnallsopp8260 27 днів тому +2

    Very interesting Peter, similar to ST Elmo,s fire
    73 de John G4YDM

  • @eddiehatherall2154
    @eddiehatherall2154 27 днів тому +2

    Thank you Peter another very informative video
    GW6BXU

  • @raylowe3324
    @raylowe3324 27 днів тому

    Very nice history of the quad.
    Back in the 1970's N6NB built an antenna featured in QST magazine called the Quagi for VHF and UHF. It had a quad driven element and reflector . All of the directors were yagi elements. The antennas when stacked made a decent moonbounce array.

  • @ralfkruse7565
    @ralfkruse7565 27 днів тому

    Thank you, Peter. Long ago, still in Germany, my Neighbur had built a 3 band Quad, but when it worked, it was fine, but after heavy storms, he had always to repair it. So he changed to a Yagi. No more repairs were needed. If you have another interesting story about horizontal quadloops for 160m, please tell it. F1VEL ex DB3YZ

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  27 днів тому

      Many thanks. Yes storms can be a problem for Quads.

  • @brianfields4479
    @brianfields4479 27 днів тому

    Thanks for sharing Peter, yet again, so very interesting.
    73 zl3xdj.

  • @chrille2409
    @chrille2409 27 днів тому

    I'm currently operating a two element Cubical Quad for the 10m Band, and i must say it's the best antenna I've ever had for this band. I think it's especially interesting for nowadays operation, because it's very, very resistant to local QRM. So reception- wise i would always prefer a quad over a yagi.

  • @AlexejSvirid
    @AlexejSvirid 26 днів тому

    There is a typo in the video's name.

  • @frankedwardcurry
    @frankedwardcurry 27 днів тому +1

    I remember listening to Radio HCJB on Shortwave back in the eighties - (Hail Christ Jesus Blessing) I believe it stood for - I used to like their DX Party Line program - Ooh Happy Memories ! 73 from Frank M3 FEC.
    Happy Memories of

    • @watersstanton
      @watersstanton  27 днів тому +2

      Many thanks Frank. Interesting to hear the origin of HCJB. 73 Peter

  • @filipinotuvera
    @filipinotuvera 27 днів тому +1

    Learn about it.