Because he had friends in high places - the BBC, The Conservative Party and The Royal Family. There were people within these institutions that were well aware of Saville’s character, and he was protected.
@Kathy Bates was just going to say that! Because we believe this society is real, when it is just a costume to go over everything that serves the psychopaths that control this 🌎
@@ksportz66 there’s an actual documentary that corroborated the 🔑 key to broadmoor. Why are you being so obstinate? You got a soft spot for a dirty kiddy fiddler or something? All this stuff has been corroborated many times over, you seem loathe to accept that.
@@Eleventhearlofmars - - So please point me to this “documentary” that verifies this. And you have resorted to insults that only a fucktard would. If you think a “fucking gold key” can access all areas of a high security psychiatric hospital then I dispair. You witless gullible dullard
@@ksportz66 I didn’t insult you? I didn’t call you names I asked a question. You’re the one who’s name calling calling me a fucktard?! Just type in saville and broadmoor on google or UA-cam and the docu may show up. It was shown about a year after Savilles death on terrestrial tv. It also showed he had unlimited access to Stoke mandeville hospital because of his charity work for that hospital and he also did unspeakable things there as well.
I applaud you for leaving the comments open. Most British content channels close the contents. Fools protecting their ‘betters’. The rot starts at the top. It is a perfect time to clean house.
No he didn’t, it was all innuendo, nothing he put his name to, all, “I know a secret .. ooh am I allowed to say that” all as a rebel punk, hardly a credible effective top whistleblower, more like a school kid calling his headmaster a perv. Not actionable.
He was totally credible. What does the the punk thing have to do with his credibility. Had it been aired it would have been a sensation and would have prevented countless cases of abuse and victims destroyed
Accusations were made while Savile was alive. He took legal action against accusers and defended them successfully. I hardly think Johnny Rotten saying he had also heard of the rumors would have "blown everything open"
I was sexually abused by my aunt and uncle when I was 4 years old this is when it began and 11 when it ended. I never told my parents and I felt ashamed and I thought it was my fault I was being abused. I'm a old man now and my aunt and uncle has passed away as have my parents and they never knew. I couldn't bear what it would have done to my mother if she ever found out. I can say it put a deep hatred in me for those who do this stuff so much so I believe I would have killed someone if they ever touched my kids. Well they are grown now too and now I worry about my grandkids it seems it will always be in the back of my mind because when I am around my grand youngins I watch everyone family included because I found out that often people are abused by someone the child knows. Not always but often. If any of you has the slightest thought a child is being abused my advice is contact the authorities is better to be safe than sorry. I wish they would have gotten caught then I wouldn't have had to go through what I went though no Child should go through that.
I am so very sorry to read this, for all the reasons that you have described. That pressure is enormous. I was almost abused by an uncle (drunk) and I managed to push him off me and demanded that he left as my parents were not at home. I was 11 yo. 20-years later I told my mother, whose first words were "I don't believe it, not my brother"!!! We talked about it, but I was right --- not to have confided in her at the time. Her reaction would have broken me.
@@munchyman6898 . Many thanks. I have shared what took place with my 16 yo daughter, so that she knows she can talk to me about anything. Plus, I know what it is like to not be believed by someone close.
I have never been a victim of one of these sick creatures. I'm a straight talking, direct speaking 'anything goes' sort of guy - BUT - this subject makes me feel really angry, and to hear how people can do things to children (or anyone else comes to that) unable to defend themselves......if I EVER find myself in the company of someone who has done any of this I will be in prison for a long time. Respect to Isabella, I do hope you have found peace in your life.....
@@isabellewhite3505 I’m really sorry for everything you went through. I just wanted to say that you’re a good mother and it must’ve been difficult for you to tell your daughter this. I’m sure now she feels like she can confide in you with anything
Why on earth was he put in charge of a failing hospital?
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There was no justifiable reason. It wasnt about patients-though it sounds as if reform was needed there also-it was about a dispute with the unions,excessive overtime claims etc. The Tories thought the place needed a "leader".Saville had no mamgement experience ,apart from managing a dancehall in Leeds,and it was at that time reports of violence brought him to the attention of the police.
@@GibboFrank . They not fella been done again shes or he been done for passing images . They live round the block from me . They both sick . Asking their neighbours kids if they want sweets and want to see their garden .
@@YomaanMand and? It goes from top to bottom. All these “royals” and politicians were in on it, they did it as well. Charles, Andrew, even that c*nt Elizabeth have done it
People are sheep....the BBC was institutional then ..times change ...the problem is people follow culture ...nowadays you can't even look at a woman if you fancy her ...but a woman can ...these are extremeties ..the media tell you it's normal to be pc ..so people believe ..I believe in my own thoughts .. and won't be brain washed
The catholic church is full of pedophiles. All the abuse that happens to stolen native American children forced into institutions and held against their will. Pedophiles are always involved with institutions that have power over children. Open your eyes people and stand up for those powerless children who are at the mercy of pedophiles!
the man is 100% correct! Someone else, usually many others, always know what's going on with pedophile abusers, rapists and such ! They are enabled throughout life and leave victims in their wake !
Seriously? You'd punish the 'enablers' just as severely as the abusers? How would you identify them? By the way they walk? Do you know anything about Steven George, why she was sent to Broadmoor and what she said about her adopted parents? Ch4 surely did, but they did not say. Look at the quality of the evidence against Jimmy Savile.
Sean Coleman I speak as having been victimized within my own family . There were several in the end who knew and did nothing ! If it is true , in any of those who have made accusations , there are more who knew and did nothing per each abused !!! That's how I know and it will be their own responses under careful questioning that will show them unless of course, they too are sociopaths as well ! Because any good sociopath knows how to answer questions carefully. And more than 1 of them have gotten away with abuses of many types by the time someone begins to ask questions.
The Savile case is a witch hunt because when you look at the evidence most of it falls apart almost as soon as you look at it (the rest falls apart later on, on more careful examination). This isn't to say that abuse happens, some of it serious, some not so serious. To understand this point of view (which is held by quite a few people, believe it or not) I would suggest first looking at the late Richard Webster's Sceptical Essays website. These witch hunts are surprisingly common and very dangerous because (of course) people don't realize they are in one at the time. That is why it is extremely important that abusers are identified by hard evidence and not by rumour, hearsay and hysteria. The same can be said about 'enablers', whatever these are exactly. AS it happens, I only started looking into the Savile case in February this year. I was already familiar with the pattern as I had read up about the infamous Casa Pia witch hunt in Portugal and the anti-clerical hysteria in Ireland. I predicted at the time that nearly all of the stories would be unfounded although I allowed for the possibility that a tiny core would be genuine, as this sometimes happens. I don't believe now that any of them are.
Sean Coleman I know only part of the "facts" as such, in this case in particular. Iam a resident of the USA and I don't feel I have enough knowledge of the investigative entities and laws that affect these cases in Britain / UK. What i can say , is Saville s affect has always bothered me , as many of his verbal responses and visible body responses to questions . At the very least the man had a psychiatric/personality disorder of some sort . And was a hypocrite. I too was raised Catholic and failed at it miserably. It isn't my job to judge him certainly. But there are many quite disturbing parts in his story and details about his life that may never be fully answered. There is definitely some points that are disturbing at best. And if true, and he violated even a portion of those who have charged such, then others had to know. He was a well known, and visible man involved in many business, hospitals ect ect. If true at all, those involved will answer eventually in one way or another. Even if one isn't inclined to believe in a higher power, Karma does come round and we all answer to our karmic making on this earth. Thank you for hearing me out. As I too understand your position and unfortunately "witch hunts" do happen. I come from a place of experience on a family level and based on 35 +yrs nursing experience in Family/Internal Medicine, and Women and Children's Health where I saw what that type of abuse inflicts upon victims for life. I truly hope and pray it isn't what is alledged.
Growing up I always had a weird feeling about saville, I just knew he wasn't right, he gave me the creeps. I just can't believe that this man got away with as much as he did for as long as he did. Just like that guy said, the people who knew but said nothing should be punished too!
When I was 13, I was asked what I thought about Saville and I said that I would never leave my children alone in a room with him because he is I think a dirty man. I was told off for false accusations. I was right.
..basically the rumor Throughout the 7os was that Savile was closet Gay ...-the same was applied to Benny Hill, Cliff Richard, Gary Glitter etc . .. ..
I had to rewind to know if I heard it clearly that he had his own "bedroom" there?? Umm... That would've showed me red flags. I don't understand why this D.J. got away with so many horrible things.
@Steven Burns Exactly. Jerry Sadowitz hit the nail on the head as far as Savile was concerned. And lets not forget that the CPS did actually question him, but let him go
I wonder how much Prince Andrew learned from him... Clearly the crown and BBC protected Jimmy. And apparently the crown at least has learned nothing. (Yeah, removal from the public eye YEARS after allegations... Doesn't mean they are protecting pedophiles. (not paedo-, lol)
Absolutely ******* sickening. I heard in a documentary a while back, that he had free reign of a hospital where, among others, children and teenagers were treated, for physical AND mental health problems. A senior, powerful head nurse pretty much knew what he was doing when he “visited” the wards for press opportunities. Yet despite being one of the most senior nurses there, she was afraid to say anything, or she would have gotten fired most likely. She said that therefore, she would tell the teenage girls in the beds that if he and his entourage approached the girls’ beds, to turn over and pretend to be asleep, in the hope that he would move on. This poor nurse said she felt extreme guilt for years that she couldn’t do more to help the girls, but she was just too afraid of how influential he was. Just repulsive.
What amazes me is Scotland Yard couldn’t find any evidence! Yeah right! You can imagine the phone calls that went on when this hit the fan! “If I go down you’re coming too!” I bet there was utter panic and many sleepless nights for the dirty bastards involved!
To allow this to go on is utterly sick. But the people that knew this was going on are the same type of person's as Saville. shame on you all that helped this degraded monster. The person who OK'd the fact that he was allowed a key, (if still alive) needs to say why he did it. But these victims should be allowed to sue broadmoor and also victims at hospitals, sue the hospital's.Bloody idiots.
lesley robinson you don’t understand, he was supplying victims to people in high places. If he went down, a lot of important people (such as politicians) would have gone down with him. You have no idea how long his tentacles reached
Generally people in Broadmoor stay in Broadmoor or similar institutions for the rest of they're lives. they are, in the laws eye, incompetent to be a witness in a trial, therefore they have no chance. Even if this person (who seems sane to me and was one of the lucky ones to be declared sane and released) was called up as a witness, the court would say they was mad at the time because they was in a mental hospital so they're evidence would be inadmissible in court.
Not gonna happen unfortunately. Because at the end of the day the rich get away with things and the poor get locked away quickly when they commit crimes. It's sad but true corruption all over the place.
I met him several times at Stoke Mandeville. Always thought he was strange but didn't realize any of this was going on. Shows the importance of speaking up because once its realised that many people have concerns the puzzle comes together.
I can’t believe how he got away with this, where are the laws and protection, different times because a celebrity could never run an entire mental health institution now. It’s very strange how he was allowed almost like it was a gift from someone in government
What a compelling and powerful speaker Stephen is. His summary was spot on. Abusers are almost always enabled. Sitting in silence is the worst crime. We raise up the wrong people.
All these accusations and there are people out there that still believe he was framed!! come on really. Read the book "The Life and Lies of Jimmy Saville, he was up to stuff like this before he was even famous.
Read Moor Larkin's blog. There is also a short academic paper on line about the founding Duncroft myth and it is clear they do not believe it, any more than I do.
I at first couldn’t believe this as I met jimmy many times as a child back stage . Though now I think was having myself and other kids on his lap giving him sick kicks. My mum regularly danced with him at parties. He used to be all over her and always had photos taken which he autographed and sent to her. Cringe worthy to think about now. Makes me think what could of happened had we been allowed to be alone with him
Thanks Channel 4 , for not disabling comments, the words about enablers are as gulty as Saville is so true, those who know and say nothing though not partaking in child molestation are still guilty , they could have stopped it.
Uncle Jimmy shared a paraphilia beloved by Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer: necrophilia. All three were psychopaths. I believe Savile murdered people also.
The reason Savile was given keys to this institution was down to the great British publics' obsession with celebrity; getting Savile into Stoke Mandeville was a masterclass in PR. If we, the public, didn't care about famous people and place them on high altars then there would have been no benefit.
Z - It just sounds so implausible. He might have been allowed to visit inmates when he wanted but think about it... if he had gold keys for all area access he would have been mugged by inmates and a mass breakout would ensue.
@@ksportz66 you're right to smell something fishy about this whole affair! Why did they wait until he died? Answer: he would have torn those accusations to shreads. Savile came from the bottom, a self made man who ran marathons in his 70's while smoking a cigar! A Real Working Class Hero
Isn’t it sickening that so many who knew, have never been named or shamed. The whole thing is stomach churning . I just hope the people that knew and did nothing, live very troubled lives now.
Why was he put in Broadmoor in the 1st place and not prison. Who made those stupid decisions clearly made to protect him. That's the questions everyone should be asking and the people involved in making them decisions should be in prison themselves.
The difference is that Andrew knew what Epstein was doing. There is no evidence that Charles knew what Savile was up to. Not that I am aware of anyway. It's not a fair comparison and it's very easy to be wise after the fact.
Saville was allowed to do all this,yet whe the police launched Operation Spanner, a yet a group of gays received severe jail sentences for purely consensual actions between themselves. This society is just so sick it staggers the immagination.
All of you people think he's the only one that has done this? There are hundreds if not thousands of people exactly like him around to this day that you will never know about.
It is beyond incredible that this man could be allowed into the most senior position within what is effectively a Government Department (HM Prisons) which is funded by Taxpayers. However, he was also revered in the BBC which was (in the main funded by the British Public). Who knows, maybe future generations will look back and wonder how Dominic Cummings was able to wheedle his way to becoming the puppet Master of the British Prime Minister at a time of disaster in the country. Truth is, the public do not know the answer to that now so far less likely to know in 3 or 4 decades when history has become shadier.
Why were they thinking about letting some famous person run a hospital? He wasn't a medical professional, wasn't an MD. Who pulled the strings to allow such a thing in the first place? Do the ppl that allowed him access where he didn't qualify know what a monster he was? I bet they did.
I always think this . Like what on earth ! Why was he “ helping out “ at a children’s hospital and a girls school .. with zero medical /teaching qualifications? He definitely pulled some strings as that is just not normal . What did people even assume he was doing in these places as it’s not like he was qualified to actually help out ? I!
His eyes were scary. I heard myself in the late 1990s from someone i knew who was working at the BBC that savile was and looked like nasty piece of work
Everyone is going on about saville and the royals and politicians etc..yet no one says anything about the medical staff who worked in the hospital. Drs etc.
@@Sundae_Times why did the Director of the BBC say..don't go to Saville parties, Saville so powerful, why didn't he do children in need,where did the 2/4 million go to, Saville had something on everyone in power
Does anyone know if he was a member of a large closed and secret organisation ?. One that vows during their initiation process to protect , promote and assist fellow members through life no matter what they may be guilty of?. I have often thought the British civil service Establishment was full of such members.
What's the point in the police investigating it. They had ignored information about the situation as well. BBC, NHS, police, government, royalty everyone who you'd think would be looking out for citizens let it slide. Makes you think what else goes on.
They say there's something in our brain that makes us focus on things that are a threat to us I genuinely think that's partly why he had such great numbers on tv.
Wishing peace and healing to the victims of Jimmy Savile.
Sasafrass Is that wish truly sincere?
@@joesmoke9624 he just wants likes
@@jammyrants2140 😂I hardly get any 🍻
He was jokes tho tbf
RIP Jim
I still cant understand why a DJ was put in charge at medical facilities. He wasnt a Doctor so why ?
A bit like how did Epstein get a job teaching in a school when he had lied about his degree.
Because he had friends in high places - the BBC, The Conservative Party and The Royal Family. There were people within these institutions that were well aware of Saville’s character, and he was protected.
@Dom Exactly.
@Kathy Bates was just going to say that! Because we believe this society is real, when it is just a costume to go over everything that serves the psychopaths that control this 🌎
@Kathy Bates Bill gates is not in charge of vaccination. Why are you saying this?
"He was a DJ. What was he doing completely free in a top security mental hospital?"
Scary 😳
@@ksportz66 they are facts not fanciful allegations ffs.
@@ksportz66 there’s an actual documentary that corroborated the 🔑 key to broadmoor. Why are you being so obstinate? You got a soft spot for a dirty kiddy fiddler or something? All this stuff has been corroborated many times over, you seem loathe to accept that.
@@Eleventhearlofmars - - So please point me to this “documentary” that verifies this. And you have resorted to insults that only a fucktard would. If you think a “fucking gold key” can access all areas of a high security psychiatric hospital then I dispair. You witless gullible dullard
@@ksportz66 I didn’t insult you? I didn’t call you names I asked a question. You’re the one who’s name calling calling me a fucktard?! Just type in saville and broadmoor on google or UA-cam and the docu may show up. It was shown about a year after Savilles death on terrestrial tv. It also showed he had unlimited access to Stoke mandeville hospital because of his charity work for that hospital and he also did unspeakable things there as well.
Ooh someone is getting my comments deleted, wonder who would be so childish and obstinate?!
The reason they didnt take him down when he was alive is he would of taken alot of them with him.
Very true.
Makes you wonder what he talked about with Thatcher at those cosy Xmas get togethers at Chequers?
Like Cliff Richard
@@rick182z That raving Left Footer.
like charles and edward for starters . . . .
Welldone Stephen George for having the courrage to do this interview. It wouldn't have been an easy task to relive you're child hood abuse.
*Steven
I applaud you for leaving the comments open.
Most British content channels close the contents.
Fools protecting their ‘betters’.
The rot starts at the top. It is a perfect time to clean house.
Protecting from who? cyber warriors? Internet trolls? Karens?
Well it is channel 4, in direct competition with the bbc.
@@jr-bw1lt Protecting their reputation from being sullied, you ignorant fucking lawn chair.
@@chilliecheesecake this is a rude reply
It really pisses me off when they close the comments
Crazy how a whole nation let this creep loose on a bunch of disabled kids.
He had that much dirt on people high up I think he had a license to do what he liked.
..was best mates with prince charles . . . . .
not a whole nation just a large group of people high up
the royal family was allowing him to do this!!!!!
Nobody in this "whole nation" ever got a say in it...
He was called out by Rotten in 1978 and nobody did anything!
The BBC cut that bit. It was never heard until decades later.
No he didn’t, it was all innuendo, nothing he put his name to, all, “I know a secret .. ooh am I allowed to say that” all as a rebel punk, hardly a credible effective top whistleblower, more like a school kid calling his headmaster a perv. Not actionable.
He was totally credible. What does the the punk thing have to do with his credibility. Had it been aired it would have been a sensation and would have prevented countless cases of abuse and victims destroyed
@@realPromotememedia You're just one of those assholes who got butthurt after he openly supported Trump.
Accusations were made while Savile was alive. He took legal action against accusers and defended them successfully. I hardly think Johnny Rotten saying he had also heard of the rumors would have "blown everything open"
I was sexually abused by my aunt and uncle when I was 4 years old this is when it began and 11 when it ended.
I never told my parents and I felt ashamed and I thought it was my fault I was being abused. I'm a old man now and my aunt and uncle has passed away as have my parents and they never knew. I couldn't bear what it would have done to my mother if she ever found out.
I can say it put a deep hatred in me for those who do this stuff so much so I believe I would have killed someone if they ever touched my kids. Well they are grown now too and now I worry about my grandkids it seems it will always be in the back of my mind because when I am around my grand youngins I watch everyone family included because I found out that often people are abused by someone the child knows. Not always but often. If any of you has the slightest thought a child is being abused my advice is contact the authorities is better to be safe than sorry. I wish they would have gotten caught then I wouldn't have had to go through what I went though no Child should go through that.
I am so very sorry to read this, for all the reasons that you have described. That pressure is enormous.
I was almost abused by an uncle (drunk) and I managed to push him off me and demanded that he left as my parents were not at home.
I was 11 yo.
20-years later I told my mother, whose first words were "I don't believe it, not my brother"!!! We talked about it, but I was right --- not to have confided in her at the time. Her reaction would have broken me.
@@munchyman6898 . Many thanks. I have shared what took place with my 16 yo daughter, so that she knows she can talk to me about anything. Plus, I know what it is like to not be believed by someone close.
I have never been a victim of one of these sick creatures. I'm a straight talking, direct speaking 'anything goes' sort of guy - BUT - this subject makes me feel really angry, and to hear how people can do things to children (or anyone else comes to that) unable to defend themselves......if I EVER find myself in the company of someone who has done any of this I will be in prison for a long time. Respect to Isabella, I do hope you have found peace in your life.....
@@isabellewhite3505 I’m really sorry for everything you went through. I just wanted to say that you’re a good mother and it must’ve been difficult for you to tell your daughter this. I’m sure now she feels like she can confide in you with anything
cool story bro
A VILE MAN.
Jimmy SaVILE
Don't talk about me like that😡
JimmyS A VILE SIR.JIMMYS A VILE. SIR.
@@j15cubing66 go away you freak... You think thats funny....... Its not.
@@personl7949 it is funny tho
He was best friends with Prince Charles..
Knighted Jimmy and Charles.. Epstein and Andrew.. I see a theme.
Pepper Provasnik And?
@@joesmoke9624 Meaning he has bad taste in friends dumbass
The Royale family are 100% connected to child trafficking and all that
@@theboraxbandit9563 The nominations for knighthood dont come from the Royal family ,they just approve them.
Why on earth was he put in charge of a failing hospital?
There was no justifiable reason. It wasnt about patients-though it sounds as if reform was needed there also-it was about a dispute with the unions,excessive overtime claims etc. The Tories thought the place needed a "leader".Saville had no mamgement experience ,apart from managing a dancehall in Leeds,and it was at that time reports of violence brought him to the attention of the police.
You couldn't make this up...
god channelled sometimes it feels made up.
Well, they did make it up.
Both from portsmouth .
@@GibboFrank . They not fella been done again shes or he been done for passing images . They live round the block from me . They both sick . Asking their neighbours kids if they want sweets and want to see their garden .
@@GibboFrank . Your not their mate are you . Your not a nonse are you ? .
No words can describe how horrible this excuse of a human was
I've got a few to try with.
Rapist doesn’t justified them kids it’s more sinister than that
Honestly
nothing 'human' about SA-VILE....
it is an insult to call him a REPTILE....
My God he was disgusting. I’d rather eat vomit than to have him feel me up. My heart goes out to all the people he preyed on.
I’ve not paid the TV licence since this happened
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@@raycroal He's lying, though. He pays it every year.
Our saviour
They can eff off ......!
That'll show 'em.
People at BBC didn't allow this they were involved
Higher than the BBC.
@@harri7416 Prince Andrew and the rest of the monarchy
Savile was even allowed into the inner circle of the royal family for christs sake. He was well in.
@@danw1374 Knights of Malta.
@@harri7416 ofcourse malta makes sure to hide any crime they commit. The church abused any boy who walked near them and till this day they ignore it
Just can’t get my head around how he was able to do what he did……..My heart goes out to all his victims.
Money and power.
@@tartgreenapple no, blackmail. read between the lines. "we're a listening hospital, we listen to nurses, to the doctors, the portiers, the drivers."
@@YomaanMand and? It goes from top to bottom. All these “royals” and politicians were in on it, they did it as well. Charles, Andrew, even that c*nt Elizabeth have done it
@@frjcde9392 did I say otherwise? what's your point?
People are sheep....the BBC was institutional then ..times change ...the problem is people follow culture ...nowadays you can't even look at a woman if you fancy her ...but a woman can ...these are extremeties ..the media tell you it's normal to be pc ..so people believe ..I believe in my own thoughts .. and won't be brain washed
Turning a blind eye seems to be a common theme. Rotherham, Rochdale, Huddersfield, Oxford, Bolton, Bradford, Newcastle, Telford, Halifax, etc, etc.
The catholic church is full of pedophiles. All the abuse that happens to stolen native American children forced into institutions and held against their will. Pedophiles are always involved with institutions that have power over children. Open your eyes people and stand up for those powerless children who are at the mercy of pedophiles!
Vatican
@@katerineella274
All churches are.
The Queen is head of the church of England and has a family full of nonces.
The interview hit the nail on the head. A lot of toxic, manipulative people out there who are fully aware of the corrupted but refuse to accept this.
Like my family
Like putting a pirana in a fish bowl
Profile pic👌😂😂😂
@@kryoboy36 I'm Irish have keep up stereotypes 🇮🇪😂😂
Fox within the hens
All these places should be investigated on a regular basis.
the man is 100% correct! Someone else, usually many others, always know what's going on with pedophile abusers, rapists and such ! They are enabled throughout life and leave victims in their wake !
if the enablers begin to be as severely punished as abusers, it would be more apt stopped !
Seriously? You'd punish the 'enablers' just as severely as the abusers? How would you identify them? By the way they walk? Do you know anything about Steven George, why she was sent to Broadmoor and what she said about her adopted parents? Ch4 surely did, but they did not say. Look at the quality of the evidence against Jimmy Savile.
Sean Coleman I speak as having been victimized within my own family . There were several in the end who knew and did nothing ! If it is true , in any of those who have made accusations , there are more who knew and did nothing per each abused !!! That's how I know and it will be their own responses under careful questioning that will show them unless of course, they too are sociopaths as well ! Because any good sociopath knows how to answer questions carefully. And more than 1 of them have gotten away with abuses of many types by the time someone begins to ask questions.
The Savile case is a witch hunt because when you look at the evidence most of it falls apart almost as soon as you look at it (the rest falls apart later on, on more careful examination). This isn't to say that abuse happens, some of it serious, some not so serious. To understand this point of view (which is held by quite a few people, believe it or not) I would suggest first looking at the late Richard Webster's Sceptical Essays website. These witch hunts are surprisingly common and very dangerous because (of course) people don't realize they are in one at the time. That is why it is extremely important that abusers are identified by hard evidence and not by rumour, hearsay and hysteria. The same can be said about 'enablers', whatever these are exactly. AS it happens, I only started looking into the Savile case in February this year. I was already familiar with the pattern as I had read up about the infamous Casa Pia witch hunt in Portugal and the anti-clerical hysteria in Ireland. I predicted at the time that nearly all of the stories would be unfounded although I allowed for the possibility that a tiny core would be genuine, as this sometimes happens. I don't believe now that any of them are.
Sean Coleman I know only part of the "facts" as such, in this case in particular. Iam a resident of the USA and I don't feel I have enough knowledge of the investigative entities and laws that affect these cases in Britain / UK.
What i can say , is Saville s affect has always bothered me , as many of his verbal responses and visible body responses to questions . At the very least the man had a psychiatric/personality disorder of some sort . And was a hypocrite. I too was raised Catholic and failed at it miserably. It isn't my job to judge him certainly. But there are many quite disturbing parts in his story and details about his life that may never be fully answered. There is definitely some points that are disturbing at best.
And if true, and he violated even a portion of those who have charged such, then others had to know. He was a well known, and visible man involved in many business, hospitals ect ect. If true at all, those involved will answer eventually in one way or another. Even if one isn't inclined to believe in a higher power, Karma does come round and we all answer to our karmic making on this earth.
Thank you for hearing me out. As I too understand your position and unfortunately "witch hunts" do happen. I come from a place of experience on a family level and based on 35 +yrs nursing experience in Family/Internal Medicine, and Women and Children's Health where I saw what that type of abuse inflicts upon victims for life. I truly hope and pray it isn't what is alledged.
Those who knew and kept silent are just as GUILTY.....
Growing up I always had a weird feeling about saville, I just knew he wasn't right, he gave me the creeps. I just can't believe that this man got away with as much as he did for as long as he did. Just like that guy said, the people who knew but said nothing should be punished too!
He gave me the creeps also as a child growing up I could never watch him on top of the pops
Its strange but i never did have any premonition about him.i just thought he was a strange silly kind of man.
When I was 13, I was asked what I thought about Saville and I said that I would never leave my children alone in a room with him because he is I think a dirty man. I was told off for false accusations. I was right.
..basically the rumor Throughout the 7os was that Savile was closet Gay ...-the same was applied to Benny Hill, Cliff Richard, Gary Glitter etc . .. ..
@@Battlady57 I agree. I knew he was odd, but I never saw that. Paedophiles are horribly clever.
I had to rewind to know if I heard it clearly that he had his own "bedroom" there?? Umm... That would've showed me red flags. I don't understand why this D.J. got away with so many horrible things.
Because he was prince Charles's best mate
He did things with other people so he'd have dirt on them
@Steven Burns Exactly. Jerry Sadowitz hit the nail on the head as far as Savile was concerned. And lets not forget that the CPS did actually question him, but let him go
Corruption.
@@Hoffinator Sadowitz is also a Nons . . . . .
That guy was bang-on in what he said about enabling behaviour. Evil thriving in a climate of fear/indifference/inaction/silence.
I wonder how much Prince Andrew learned from him... Clearly the crown and BBC protected Jimmy. And apparently the crown at least has learned nothing. (Yeah, removal from the public eye YEARS after allegations... Doesn't mean they are protecting pedophiles. (not paedo-, lol)
Absolutely ******* sickening. I heard in a documentary a while back, that he had free reign of a hospital where, among others, children and teenagers were treated, for physical AND mental health problems. A senior, powerful head nurse pretty much knew what he was doing when he “visited” the wards for press opportunities. Yet despite being one of the most senior nurses there, she was afraid to say anything, or she would have gotten fired most likely. She said that therefore, she would tell the teenage girls in the beds that if he and his entourage approached the girls’ beds, to turn over and pretend to be asleep, in the hope that he would move on. This poor nurse said she felt extreme guilt for years that she couldn’t do more to help the girls, but she was just too afraid of how influential he was. Just repulsive.
What amazes me is Scotland Yard couldn’t find any evidence! Yeah right! You can imagine the phone calls that went on when this hit the fan!
“If I go down you’re coming too!” I bet there was utter panic and many sleepless nights for the dirty bastards involved!
If many victims were too scared to complain and those that did complain were not listened to then there is no evidence.
i will not let this drop. its my life work. the BBC is serioulsy guilty,,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Savile,_1st_Marquess_of_Halifax
To allow this to go on is utterly sick. But the people that knew this was going on are the same type of person's as Saville. shame on you all that helped this degraded monster. The person who OK'd the fact that he was allowed a key, (if still alive) needs to say why he did it. But these victims should be allowed to sue broadmoor and also victims at hospitals, sue the hospital's.Bloody idiots.
lesley robinson you don’t understand, he was supplying victims to people in high places. If he went down, a lot of important people (such as politicians) would have gone down with him. You have no idea how long his tentacles reached
Exactly Mama bear.
Generally people in Broadmoor stay in Broadmoor or similar institutions for the rest of they're lives. they are, in the laws eye, incompetent to be a witness in a trial, therefore they have no chance. Even if this person (who seems sane to me and was one of the lucky ones to be declared sane and released) was called up as a witness, the court would say they was mad at the time because they was in a mental hospital so they're evidence would be inadmissible in court.
100 per cent 👍 agreed
@@mamabear1211 was another Epstein/ Gishlane . Bastzrds
Arrest his co conspirators, all of them.
Agreed....bring them up before the crown.
That's so many people
Not gonna happen unfortunately. Because at the end of the day the rich get away with things and the poor get locked away quickly when they commit crimes. It's sad but true corruption all over the place.
@@andypeterson3070 sadly. God will judge them eventually at their end
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Savile,_1st_Marquess_of_Halifax
BBC were well aware of this. Ffs
I met him several times at Stoke Mandeville. Always thought he was strange but didn't realize any of this was going on. Shows the importance of speaking up because once its realised that many people have concerns the puzzle comes together.
I can’t believe how he got away with this, where are the laws and protection, different times because a celebrity could never run an entire mental health institution now. It’s very strange how he was allowed almost like it was a gift from someone in government
What a compelling and powerful speaker Stephen is. His summary was spot on. Abusers are almost always enabled. Sitting in silence is the worst crime.
We raise up the wrong people.
*Steven
All these accusations and there are people out there that still believe he was framed!! come on really. Read the book "The Life and Lies of Jimmy Saville, he was up to stuff like this before he was even famous.
Read Moor Larkin's blog. There is also a short academic paper on line about the founding Duncroft myth and it is clear they do not believe it, any more than I do.
The last four letters of his surname describe him very well.
Ille?
@@chriswakefield9538 "vile" his name only has one "l"
The vatican loved him, ill leave that here
The Vatican, the Royal Family, the BBC, The Guardian, the list is very long.
I at first couldn’t believe this as I met jimmy many times as a child back stage . Though now I think was having myself and other kids on his lap giving him sick kicks. My mum regularly danced with him at parties. He used to be all over her and always had photos taken which he autographed and sent to her. Cringe worthy to think about now. Makes me think what could of happened had we been allowed to be alone with him
Lord mountbatten, prince chaz,prince phillip, prince andrew ,jimmy savile all had one thing in common that united them
The only ones on that list who we have evidence of abuse of minors are Mountbatten,Saville,and Prince Andrew.
Saville was their pimp that is what they had in common.
..dont forget edward ....
Er... nope.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Savile,_1st_Marquess_of_Halifax
Thanks Channel 4 , for not disabling comments, the words about enablers are as gulty as Saville is so true, those who know and say nothing though not partaking in child molestation are still guilty , they could have stopped it.
Evil
I don't think enough is mentioned about him fiddling with corpses down the morgue, seems death wasn't even an escape from Uncle Jimmy
Uncle Jimmy shared a paraphilia beloved by Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer: necrophilia. All three were psychopaths. I believe Savile murdered people also.
The people or person that actually gave him the keys were probably in on it no other explanation
Can’t believe this man got away with all this for so many years,turns my stomach.
other criminals expose their crimes and they are celebrated by Netflix
Like my uncle was a legit devil just like savile
The reason Savile was given keys to this institution was down to the great British publics' obsession with celebrity; getting Savile into Stoke Mandeville was a masterclass in PR. If we, the public, didn't care about famous people and place them on high altars then there would have been no benefit.
You're right so many people cannot believe any thing bad about anyone who is rich and famous
simon cowell ? .......
There was no escape from Jimmy Saville ,even when you played dead😱
Well, he did get Gods blessing from Pope John Paul II
*Savile
He is Britain’s version of Freddy Krueger 😂😂😂😂😂
Both his parents were Irish, go figure plus he was knighted by the Pope as well as the UK.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Savile,_1st_Marquess_of_Halifax
The gap between elites and the normal citizen was never so obvious. If one think to live in a democracy, think again.
“Jimmy Saville was given gold keys and he had the run of the place”... “Jimmy Saville ran Broadmoor”... Crazy if true
Z - It just sounds so implausible. He might have been allowed to visit inmates when he wanted but think about it... if he had gold keys for all area access he would have been mugged by inmates and a mass breakout would ensue.
@@ksportz66 you're right to smell something fishy about this whole affair! Why did they wait until he died? Answer: he would have torn those accusations to shreads. Savile came from the bottom, a self made man who ran marathons in his 70's while smoking a cigar! A Real Working Class Hero
*Savile
Isn’t it sickening that so many who knew, have never been named or shamed. The whole thing is stomach churning . I just hope the people that knew and did nothing, live very troubled lives now.
ha, they won't care like Xi Jinping with the Tiananmen massacre
Saville is just the tip of the iceberg
That’s for sure.
"The running of the hospital was given to a 5 man task force...headed by Jimmy Saville." I mean that's worthy of The Day Today / Brass Eye. Bizarro.
Frightening how much he was enabled to have access to vulnerable victims
It's a truly horrible vision.
Hes in a warmer place now
Jesus Christ how could he be given so much power in these hospitals? Did he have ANY medical training?
Yes, Gynaecology.
Why was he put in Broadmoor in the 1st place and not prison. Who made those stupid decisions clearly made to protect him. That's the questions everyone should be asking and the people involved in making them decisions should be in prison themselves.
Why is Andrew's relationship with Epstien so much worse than Charles' relationship with Savile? Charles does NOT deserve to be king!
..should be toally abolished ...THEY hurt so many children ....🤐
The difference is that Andrew knew what Epstein was doing. There is no evidence that Charles knew what Savile was up to. Not that I am aware of anyway. It's not a fair comparison and it's very easy to be wise after the fact.
@@ukchristian28 charles watched ....
Savile should've been a convicted inmate!!
I’m not saying Jimmy Saville made this woman change into a man but it’s sad to think he may of contributed to it through trauma 😔
maybe jimmy was a woman who became a man ,,,,explains why he was so strange ....
*Savile
I was thinking the same thing
Absolutely bizarre
Saville was allowed to do all this,yet whe the police launched Operation Spanner, a yet a group of gays received severe jail sentences for purely consensual actions between themselves. This society is just so sick it staggers the immagination.
*Savile
All of you people think he's the only one that has done this? There are hundreds if not thousands of people exactly like him around to this day that you will never know about.
Millions
I think that’s the great takeaway: that people who knew about it are the enablers. They’re the ones who allow these things to happen. So sad.
Not enough distressing
Sounds like a storyline off of Gotham the tv show.
Agree with everything that was said about the enablers...they should be locked away and throw the key away.
People in the 2010s revealed to be awful people: Jimmy Saville, Kevin Spacey, Bill Cosby
Why do you do this to me 2010s?
Bill Cosby was a huge racist.Was at one of his shows once.He isn't even funny.A real wanker.
"To sin by silence when we must protest, makes cowards out of men."
He was a friend of Tony Blair too
Never liked Teflon Tony either.Wanker.
He was given accomodation on the wrong side of the wall of Broadmore.
It is beyond incredible that this man could be allowed into the most senior position within what is effectively a Government Department (HM Prisons) which is funded by Taxpayers. However, he was also revered in the BBC which was (in the main funded by the British Public). Who knows, maybe future generations will look back and wonder how Dominic Cummings was able to wheedle his way to becoming the puppet Master of the British Prime Minister at a time of disaster in the country. Truth is, the public do not know the answer to that now so far less likely to know in 3 or 4 decades when history has become shadier.
All these years later still no further on a fkn disgrace
Why were they thinking about letting some famous person run a hospital? He wasn't a medical professional, wasn't an MD. Who pulled the strings to allow such a thing in the first place? Do the ppl that allowed him access where he didn't qualify know what a monster he was? I bet they did.
I always think this . Like what on earth ! Why was he “ helping out “ at a children’s hospital and a girls school .. with zero medical /teaching qualifications? He definitely pulled some strings as that is just not normal . What did people even assume he was doing in these places as it’s not like he was qualified to actually help out ? I!
Scandals now even a little closer to home.
I met jimmy at stoke mandiville hospital. I was 15 in 1985. He was asking weird questions and was freaky looking in his eyes 👀.
APBC Technique and UK Osteopathy what did he say? if you dont mind my asking
I bet he looked very hungry, while he was eyeing you up and down.
nick asked me what I was doing ? I was visiting my girlfriends brother with a spine injury and I told him I was a runner. He wasn’t friendly at all.
Pink Lady I was just a boy 👦
I never knew sexual predators existed back then. I had a Very sheltered life
His eyes were scary. I heard myself in the late 1990s from someone i knew who was working at the BBC that savile was and looked like nasty piece of work
What's worse is the people who knew about it but did nothing and only decided to bring it up after his death
SO HE COULD'NT SPILL THE BEANS ON ALL THE HIGHER
UP PEDOS IN THE UK!
Everyone is going on about saville and the royals and politicians etc..yet no one says anything about the medical staff who worked in the hospital.
Drs etc.
*Savile
@@Sundae_Times why did the Director of the BBC say..don't go to Saville parties, Saville so powerful, why didn't he do children in need,where did the 2/4 million go to, Saville had something on everyone in power
we still live in a creepy world...
My father is incredibly homophobic. He tells me Jimmy came to visit him in Leeds General. Quite possibly this explains a lot.
How sad sympathies x
MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT HE HAD ON PEOPLE IN HIGH PLACES....
Does anyone know if he was a member of a large closed and secret organisation ?. One that vows during their initiation process to protect , promote and assist fellow members through life no matter what they may be guilty of?.
I have often thought the British civil service Establishment was full of such members.
i rhink its a 'G' iven ......😉
@@krishnan-resurrection714 My thou'G'hts exactly.🤟👍
G.... nuff said
somebody said he was a 33 degree mason dont know what lodge
@@12presspart They seem obsessed with that 'East and west Ridings' idea ....Peter sutcliffe was also a member .....YUorkshire Lodges ....York Rites...
Distressing is an understatement
Was he a doctor or a dj. Why did he Run a hospital ?
They were all in on it ,this doesnt carry on for years without powerful friends .
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Savile,_1st_Marquess_of_Halifax
Filth. And Andrew was doing the same thing.
Maggie Thatcher knew all about him before he was knighted and she kept her mouth shut
Someone Fixed It For Jim.
What's the point in the police investigating it. They had ignored information about the situation as well. BBC, NHS, police, government, royalty everyone who you'd think would be looking out for citizens let it slide. Makes you think what else goes on.
The clue is in the last four letters of his surname.
He is Vile.
why as this gone on for so long. When people have reported it
Anyone wonder how he had important people in his pocket including the royal family? Don’t take much thought to work it out
more like he was in Their pocket . . . . .
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Savile,_1st_Marquess_of_Halifax
They say there's something in our brain that makes us focus on things that are a threat to us I genuinely think that's partly why he had such great numbers on tv.
Hideous.
This is so sickening...
I’m heartbroken to hear all this 😢
I wonder why "Steven George" was a patient in that hospital..
Read the book IN PLAIN SITE ,by Dan Davis ,the cover up was unbelievable
He was protected by his fellow nonces royalty, the met, the government, the judiciary system, showbiz etc