The Controversy Over The Cuckolding Percentage Amongst Men ft
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Hi Mike, it was Pearl, who said those statistics.
Varies among demographics. Ie sub Saharan Africa estimated over 30% as the culture being among the most primitive being the YOUNGEST admixture of Homo sapiens on earth (to my knowledge) have men investing more onto their sisters children than their own, the population is still very very young in its evolution and still have not evolved into the civilisation stage.
Sexual dysmorphic differences the lowest among all racial groups, patriarchal societies have not evolved as yet which is why where sub Saharan cultures are majority or high percentage they cannot and will NEVER be able to maintain let alone build an advanced civilisation until their culture achieves that stage.
Drives me nuts Rollo saying when Homo sapiens on sun Saharan savanna, the Khoisan are the eldest Homo sapiens and all our ancestral links to Homo sapiens NOT SUB SAHARAN!. sub Saharan peoples are the youngest demographic admixture with an ancient unknown hominid around 42-33K years ago…
Ancient European are literally older than sub Saharan demographics.
Pays to try be accurate as that community have a very strong tendency to believe nonsense much like women ironically enough the KGB identified US women and black Americans as the perfect useful idiots for subversion both demographics having highest rates of mental illnesses, anti social behavioural disorders, emotional instability, magical thinking etc.
DNA TESTS NEED TO BE MANDATORY.
I agree, that's the only way to confirm paternity at birth.
Should be part of human rights charter
Not going to happen. The fallout will be too great.
They would be if we were not an oligarchy
The women are quiet like “Holy shit they’re figuring us out.”
Once they realize they have been figured out that’s when they start to gaslight
Knowing now how frequently women have affairs outside of marriage, you'd be naive to believe the number isn't HIGH.
Years ago, I worked with a man who was going through a nasty divorce and, during that divorce, found out his daughter wasn't biologically his. He paid 18 years of child support for a daughter he thought was biologically his own. That was over 15 years ago, and one of my first red pill moments of learning and made me realize I need to think twice when dealing with the opposite gender because they're cold and mercenary by nature.
I want to add that his wife had him removed from their home, and he was living in his van temporarily for months. This man was retired Navy, and was from what I could tell was a decent man. He was also very funny and jolly.
He still loved his daughter anyway after he found out during the divorce proceedings, but he will never get any of that money back.
Imagine serving your country and paying taxes all your life only to end up homeless and swindled out of 150k+ all because you got married. Stay single boys...
@@CobraR1993 Fucking hell, was he still funny and jolly post divorce?
@Darknight526 yes. He was just naturally a outgoing life of the party type of guy.
“30% of men are raising a baby that isn’t his” has been around since the early 2000s, well before the manosphere ever existed. Hell, House MD even referenced this in an episode.
It’s not uniform, of course. It’s geographically and economically dependent.
Where there's smoke, there's often fire. It may not be 30% - I mean, let's face it: wahmen claim that SA is 25% of college campuses, and yet, women make up 60% of college students. But it's probably higher than is in at least women's best interest to not let that come out.
The debate should start with should paternity fraud be criminalized? I 100% believe the answer is yes. If the answer is yes then the most effective way to end it is by mandatory testing.
He is conflating paternity fraud with the " 30 % men are raising a kid that is not theirs" by the amounts of single moms out there is completely reasonable
In France, paternity tests are forbidden. That says enough. If the government trusts women, there is no reason why a paternity test should not be mandatory. Don't we all want the truth?
Bro , according to Indian judiciary, DNA test is against family moral, I mean imagine the level of gaslighting...
Paternity tests at birth should 100% be absolutely necessary for every single person in every single state, with necessary exceptions. Both men and women who have their head on straight agree on this. 30% paternity fraud is obviously ridiculous, but it really does happen a lot more than you think.
I don't know how true it is but I heard they did try that at some hospital years ago, but the fallouts from men finding out they weren't the father made it dangerous for the staff so they stopped. Men become violent over stuff like this. There is no good way to break the news to a young man that he isn't the biological father, especially if the woman is his wife.
I think we should go further than this and go back to only marrying women as virgins and keeping them versions after words to be 100% sure. You could get a situation where your brother impregnates your chick and on the DNA test it will still be highly likely the you are the father, as it's close enough that it would be disputed by the woman unless you were already accusing your brother.
30% of men are knowingly and unknowingly, supporting a child that is not theirs
This is why even back in the day, the milk man, handyman or mailman would often come up as a joke that he was the real father. Back in the day, housewives were alone and bored and that's exactly the type of romance women fall for.
@@CobraR1993 only the housewives from a certain time period or were upper class as women from the 1930s and before typically had to work manual labor jobs and didn't have modern conveniences that gave them significantly more time especially once you get into the 1960s.
@JustNo8808 you don't need much time for sex. A quicke can happen anywhere with just a bit of privacy and you only need 10-15 minutes even with clothes on. If anything, there was more time to cheat and get away with it in the old days because there were no cameras, no DNA technology, and many areas were just remote with less people.
To bring an example of time, a friend of mine has always worked in the hospital industry. He told me its well known that the hospital staff sneak off into dark unused rooms or the janitorial closet to have sex. These are busy people at work most who are married or in relationships and they still find time and places to have quick sex with someone at work.
If I remember correctly the 30% came from a hospital study. However it was one study in one hospital. Meaning it isn't peer reviewed.
However this situation is easily solved. Simply make DNA tests mandatory at birth to prevent paternity fraud. That will give everyone the real numbers.
People then often say, but that's controversial and it costs money. It being "controversial" is a weak argument. You either want to know the truth or not.
And in terms of costs anyone can roughly calculate the costs for this by multiplying the number of births with the cost per DNA test. And I'm sure those costs can be lowered by buying those tests in bulk.
Paternity tests cost nothing compared to hospital bills for birth. Its not a cost issue.
I think isn't 1 in 3 that question paternity and are tested, and that's high enough to mandate paternity testing in all births no one should unknowingly be supporting a child that's not theres
Tennessee now requires mandatory testing. Are there any stats from there?? Wouldn't that be a great source for unbiased/skewed data??
The AABB, which does paternity tests, mostly for insurance and inheritance claims, report 33%. Popp reported on this years ago.
However, you have to ask yourself, why the huge resistance to mandatory paternity tests before a man is put on the birth cert?
Sartain saying guys would commit mass murder if it was that high, thus it proves it's not that high, is ridiculous.
As if the guys that are finding out currently, show the proclivity for fatal violence, whether to others or themselves.
There may be some increase in violent acts, sure, but not to that extent, it would be what it is now, and bumped up proportionally, which would still make it marginal overall.
*TLDR Most guys currently who find out they're not the dad are not stooping to extreme violence in response. Sartain was off base with that ridiculous reply.*
It reminded me of this Hendy Ford quote:
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
But I'd argue that enough people know yet there is no revolution.
Rollo looking jacked while wearing the imperial eagle! Nice work sir
In a past article I read it is over 50% in the US and France and 70% in the Caribbean. On the You Are Not the Father tv show it was well over 30%. Most men do not get paternity tests and this needs to change. A Blood Bank worker was also interviewed and stated that he had to quit because it mentally affected him and it was so heart breaking dealing with the broken men that found out. Tennessee just passed a law for mandatory paternity tests for the birth of every child because it is a big problem.
The distinctive issue from an ethics and morality perspective, IMO, is that "retroactive" is above board and the man is knowingly and willingly signing up for it, whereas "proactive" is based on deceit, trickery, dishonesty, disloyalty, bad faith, and subterfuge.
That's not to say they aren't darwinianly the same, I agree they are. But one is deceit and the other is not.
One is deceit, the other is defeat.
there is a study saying that 1/3 children are not his and he does not know it...those srudies took data from child suport cases that we know of
I heard about this. It was from the bill in Tennessee to force mandatory paternity tests. They found that 30% of the men asking for tests at hospitals were not the father's.
30% is when the "father" already suspects something fishy. The actual rate is around 2% in western countries. Mexico is the outlier with 11%🎉
Hence the term "sancho".
Actually the number is far higher than two but a good amount less than 30 in this country. If you think Mexico is bad in 11% you should look at Jamaica.
Now we just need the number of men who suspect something fishy compared to men who are too naive to suspect.
I bet it’s higher than 2%. 1 in 50? Na that’s just the women that will admit it on a survey, and that’s even if she knows. For example, she might not think that one night stand resulted in her pregnancy. I’d buy, 5 percent or so. Obviously that’s me guessing
UK is around 6% thats 1 in 18. France is much higher.
Do not take the 30% figure at face value. UK Government data has the rates on a sliding scale from 1% in social group A through to 30% in social group E. If the ruling class found they had a 30% rate then laws governing women behaviour would change instantly but since this cuckolding only really effects unskilled working men and the underclass do not expect any laws to be changed.
The 30% claim came from a court officer with forced DNA test.
That’s why single moms should be the bottom of your list or removed from your dating pool when it comes to dating seriously
You shouldn’t even sleep with them because there’s a chance that she might try to baby trap you
i believe pearl said it
Tay Tay ,others red pills sister & mgtow mentioned it decade ago too
The paper I saw was 30 percent of the men who suspected their spouse of infidelity. Or if they knew she cheated. It came out to a total of like 1-2 percent.
Basically if you think your child is not yours there’s a 30-33 percent chance you are correct.
I read somewhere it was 20% and they knew when children got tested for organ transplant and or bone marrow.
I’m convinced it’s higher seeing as I know 2 people who that almost happened to… like wtf 🙃
I’ve heard “one in three” in the red pill community. Think some really leading figure could have said it…now acting all different.
Only possible way this gets referenced is by die hards who use a number they heard about paternity tests on people who suspect or know the kids are not theirs. So you already suspect the child isn't yours it doesn't include people who are sure the kids are theirs or aren't even getting tested.
Of those who test it’s over 30 percent.
look at the stats from Jamaica and Nigeria
Make DNA testing mandatory. We are the most advanced country in the World but have these shenanigans?
30% figure isn't correct in regards to paternity fraud where the mother of the child is covertly hiding who the real father is or in situations where the mother is unsure of paternity but not honest with her boyfriend/husband...
Honestly, its probably true in the black community.
Sampling bias in action.
I think its 30% unmarried.
50%+
He told on himself. First, he said "I've heard manosphere pundits claim publicly that [rates of
children from infidelity] is around 30%." In other words, nearly 1 in 3 people are offspring of
cheaters. Then he stated, "In cases where paternity has been disputed and a test [was]
requested, 30% [were not children of the father]." This is one dumb guy.
I'm sorry, but Michael Surtain and the other guy are WRONG. Let's really look at that 30% of men that get tested. Those men that demanded a test ALREADY had a question about paternity. What about ALL THE OTHER MEN that either didn't know she cheated OR even worse, know she cheated and on the hook for being the father anyway. ( as in a marriage ) Wouldn't that 30% go higher?? Think about it....
Really? Who among you want to find out with a Paternity test on yourself? I'd put it at about 10%. I'm a Cuckoo myself.
I honestly do not care about actualrate. If I ever become a father, I will just be doing DNA test for every child,and that will solve the issue for me.
I do believe it's in the 50-60%, if not higher. Most guys are raising kids that are not theirs.
If I'm nuts, then take a DNA test. Prove me wrong.
*Fun fact:* women mess around with the same type of guys that look similar.
i am the first one commenting on this video