Traditional Finnish Axes

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  • @anonymousprole8367
    @anonymousprole8367 Рік тому +11

    I wish I could tell you how much I miss this channel. I was in a deep depression when I found it, and honestly these videos (silly as it may sound) helped me get through those dark days. If I had only one UA-cam related wish, it would be that Marcus would create more in the vein of these videos. Thank you for everything, I cannot thank you enough.

  • @ryangoodson5745
    @ryangoodson5745 8 місяців тому +2

    I love Finnish axes. Best axes ever made. Great video.

  • @merc340sr
    @merc340sr 8 років тому +17

    Finnish log cabins look very nice. The workmanship with a broad axe is amazing, very precise. The corners fit nicely and are very solid! (dove tail corners)

  • @carolynomm4013
    @carolynomm4013 6 років тому +10

    Love the music, the spirit of the old. Like your clip. Great to learn about the axes.

  • @NorwegianWoods
    @NorwegianWoods 7 років тому +31

    That is a really awesome film about axes! Keep these kind of videos coming.
    - Martin

  • @GOLDSMITHEXILE
    @GOLDSMITHEXILE 7 років тому +3

    I have owned a roselli axe for around 6 years now and I love it for carving, nice compact weight behind the edge. It would be even better for me if it had a slightly longer front point (toe?) to reach deeper into concave surfaces (the leather sheath would stay on better too!)....I replaced the peculiar reverse angle handle and made a "vacuum cleaner handle" shaped one with a swelled pommel end, from ash instead. I find the aggressive bite useful sometimes cross cutting to start hollowing bowls, like a sort of giant mortise chisel. I also like that it is a flat scandinavian type grind mine has no secondary bevel, I use a sandvik file.
    I love seeing that old film where 2 men with bilnas axes rive open a log from end to end taking turns to chop right into the centre of the log, moving along a step at a time, amazing picture

  • @MDR-hn2yz
    @MDR-hn2yz 2 роки тому

    What a relaxing video to watch after a stressful day at the office.

  • @Daniel-wx6gj
    @Daniel-wx6gj 8 років тому +2

    those antiques are amazing

  • @oskarstenlund
    @oskarstenlund 8 років тому +4

    Great axe video, i hope you do more of these in the future!

  • @ursus8068
    @ursus8068 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for this awesome video. So much detail! Keep on doing stuff like that!

  • @turtlewolfpack6061
    @turtlewolfpack6061 7 років тому +1

    A very good look at some less known axes that are just as capable as any other in the woods.

  • @1hillbilly
    @1hillbilly 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for taking the time to teach . You know your stuff.

  • @marycahill546
    @marycahill546 8 років тому +1

    Nicely done. You answered my curiosity about the Roselli.

  • @fh5786
    @fh5786 6 років тому +1

    Good information presented in a very cogent, thoughtful manner. Beautiful scenery and the music was enjoyable as well. A very well rounded video. Great content, attractively packaged. Well done.

  • @Leicashooter1
    @Leicashooter1 7 років тому +1

    the only thing I do not like about your videos is that there are not more of them. This is one of my favorite youtube channels and I have watched all of the videos several times, you need to produce another series! LOL Well done and thanks for all of the excellent information.

    • @mlepola1
      @mlepola1  7 років тому +2

      Thank you. I am sorry that we have not been able to produce more videos as there have been other projects which also demand attention. Also we want to make sure we produce good heritage content in our videos and therefore it takes time to make them. A new video is scheduled to be uploaded during spring.

  • @DarthTaco351
    @DarthTaco351 7 років тому +1

    I've yet to own a Billnas, but own a few different Swedish axes of similar style and love them.

  • @Sheepdog1314
    @Sheepdog1314 3 роки тому +1

    I would love to learn how to plait a birchbark backpack like yours....very good video....thank you

  • @jonfaber4663
    @jonfaber4663 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the nice, well made and informative video.Well done!

  • @MrSteve280
    @MrSteve280 4 роки тому

    Nice video. Has a relaxing quality.

  • @johnspencer1145
    @johnspencer1145 6 років тому +1

    Excellent video thank you love your billnas axe wish I could find one 👍

  • @mrMacGoover
    @mrMacGoover 7 років тому +15

    Billnas axes still rule!... though sadly the traditional ones no longer in production... the fiskars I find still embody good finnish design, cutting and splitting qualities not to mention good ergonomic feel! that said I wish fiskars would manufacture the traditional Billnas type axe with a harder drop forged steel head with a long pole socket and wooden handle, something a father would be proud to pass on down to his children!

    • @ottomesser9101
      @ottomesser9101 4 роки тому

      I agree with your comment. I feel the steel is not up to the challenge on hard woods...and there dam ugly, in my opinion. Haha but they makr good bush trimmers though.

    • @Andy-Gibb
      @Andy-Gibb 3 роки тому

      Mr.McGoover on the net you find a lot of Billnas axes for sale in Estonia for some reason. It looks like they were exported there at one time.

  • @brain4154
    @brain4154 4 роки тому +1

    That pack is amazing!! i would love something like that :)

  • @TheRevoltingMan
    @TheRevoltingMan 3 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @richardnichols1392
    @richardnichols1392 6 років тому

    Enjoy your videos today beautiful land one thing though i need one of those old time axe's !

  • @bluetoad2001
    @bluetoad2001 7 років тому +1

    thanks for posting, i have not seen the Roselli in action before. i've always wonder what the profile was like.

  • @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
    @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique 2 роки тому +1

    I like the bearded design, similar to viking bearded axes and poleaxes.

  • @corvusduluth
    @corvusduluth 7 років тому +1

    I bought a Kellokoski 12.3 Kemi , have been watching and reading about haft geometry, will make a haft from 10 year seasoned riven White Oak as that is what I have. Kiitos.

  • @redcanoe14
    @redcanoe14 8 років тому +1

    Thanks Marcus
    So haft/ shaft lengths often appear quite short on vintage Billnas, Kellokoski axes (40cm to 50 cm) compared with many of the old English and American axes (felling axes are typically 30" 36", or longer) of course tree species and size have dictated these measurements I suspect. My dad was a shipbuilder and he had an old Gilpin Axe (Kent Pattern) 4lbs with a handmade 22" haft.
    I am not a forester or logger but use axes regularly managing my woodland in British Columbia (formerly in England). My Great Grandmother was Sami, so I have an interest in things Finnish/Lappish.

    • @redcanoe14
      @redcanoe14 8 років тому

      +Marcus Lepola
      I did not know about Saami axe use, but was told the stuorra niibi 'big knife' was used to cut arctic birch and some kind of willow for firewood, because it is of a thin diameter. Alder for making dye, repelling bugs, smoking meat and fish. In England small trees were cut with a tool called a 'bill hook', there are several regional designs.

  • @myracrodruons
    @myracrodruons 6 років тому +1

    Awesome finnish axe collection, beautiful landscape.
    I think you should achieve better result with your 12.3 bill nas if it had a longer handle. Mine is 60 cm handle.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @richardcook555
    @richardcook555 4 роки тому +2

    Enjoy your videos very much. I bought a rosselli axe head and fitted it up with a handle of red ash. Frankly, I hate the design, reckon it's only good for spilling small wood you cut with a bow saw. Here in the USA we call the tool you use with both hands an axe; with only one hand we call it a hatchet. Do make some more videos.

  • @ottomesser9101
    @ottomesser9101 4 роки тому +1

    Very very informative video....i have a size 2 Bellnas. I was unaware they made a size 3. Thank you for this information. My question, mine came without a handle did you make or buy your handle? If you bought where did you buy? Please and thank you.

  • @DRJMF1
    @DRJMF1 3 роки тому +1

    I really like the 12-3 Billnas head, nice and long and heavy. Where can I buy one of these traditional Finnish axes ? great introduction. The Billnas 12-3 with narrow bit is a true universal axe.

    • @larrywave
      @larrywave 3 роки тому

      Ebay,tori,huutonet

  • @paulhiebert9319
    @paulhiebert9319 3 роки тому

    That is one dull Rosselli. They would not want to use your review to endorse their axe :/
    HOWEVER, that 12/3 is a real little beauty ! And you did a fine job on the handle selection. Very fine little axe - I want one now :) There's just something special about those compact heavy little Finnish axes. Love them.
    I also love your traditional backpack. Thanks for sharing :)

  • @frixux
    @frixux 4 роки тому

    a nice gem the mod 12 ,

  • @redcanoe14
    @redcanoe14 8 років тому

    Hi Marcus
    Very interesting video.
    I am currently restoring 4 old Billnas axes (12.3, 12.2 and 7 and 1133). I am very interested in how they were shafted (hafted). It is interesting to see the differences in the eye of the axes, not like european or American axes. The Billnas 1133 is an 'hourglass' shape, quite difficult to shape end to fit tightly. I use Pine Tar and Birch Bark to make tighter fit.

  • @larrywave
    @larrywave 4 роки тому

    Any list of old and new finnish axe forges billnäs and so on ?

  • @user-oi7ud5wm5s
    @user-oi7ud5wm5s 7 років тому +1

    What is this music in the beginning?

  • @ajaxtelamonian5134
    @ajaxtelamonian5134 5 років тому +1

    Good old Bilnas I have a 2? (1.3kg) myself on a 60 ish cm handle and its brilliant at whatever I use it for. Just wish they were made these days with simpler drop forging methods so they are affordable.

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything 2 роки тому

      According to 1928 billnäs catalog number 12/2 should weight 1,4 kilos so yours hasnt seen much use. Nice find.

  • @pierrelyons-thomas6462
    @pierrelyons-thomas6462 8 років тому

    very interesting. I bought the roselli because I had worked in Finland and was impressed with the work ethic and steel quality. I will note Neeman tools makes a finnish type axe, which although expensive, is available to the wider world. They are latvian I think though.

    • @pierrelyons-thomas6462
      @pierrelyons-thomas6462 8 років тому

      +Pierre Lyons-Thomas I will agree the roselli is a strange little axe. I feel as though it was designed with woodworking in mind. You made an interesting note on the collar with levering wood open and interestingly the gransfors also has a bit of a rounded collar which likely adds some stability over more standard heads. thanks for the video. It made me think a little.

  • @samipesonen5771
    @samipesonen5771 6 років тому +4

    Maybe there is room for better cutting technique: start with wider cutting area and more angle so that you can get 15cm wood chops. Thicker the wood, wider the cutting area.

  • @redcanoe14
    @redcanoe14 8 років тому

    Hello Marcus
    What was the Billnas No.7 axe used for, it looks more suited to splitting logs. I have read accounts of it having a longer haft than 12.3 and 12.2 axes, is this true?

  • @redcanoe14
    @redcanoe14 8 років тому

    Hi Marcus
    I have just made a shaft for a Billnas 1133 out of Birch. This is not Arctic Birch though, probably Paper Bark, Yellow or Water Birch. Arctic Birch is smaller, slow growing and tighter annual rings. I have made one Billnas 12.3 with an Ash haft, Ash is popular in UK where I came from. John Neeman uses Elm for his Finnish Axes, this would be good, but not available this side of Canada.

  • @leavesofgrass1917
    @leavesofgrass1917 7 років тому

    Awsome!

  • @samuelbetts9352
    @samuelbetts9352 2 роки тому

    Hey Skäri, do you have any info on the music played, ie song name or a source ? Is it a cow horn? It's lovely, thanks.

  • @ristoalanko9281
    @ristoalanko9281 3 роки тому +1

    Roselli axe is made only for splitting wood, old Billnäs is general purpose axe, sharpen it well and you can use it for cutting , splitting , and shaving, too.

  • @citizen1114
    @citizen1114 7 років тому +4

    I'm so glad that I watched your video. I was considering buying a Roselli axe from Lamnia but after watching this and a dozen other videos and blogs I think I'll pass and maybe go for a Wetterlings forest axe or similar. It appears that if all you had was a Roselli axe you'd die of exhaustion before getting enough wood for a fire. My biggest question when seeing this axe in action is, "What was Heimo thinking when he designed it and then, has he ever used an axe?"

  • @jamesrivis620
    @jamesrivis620 4 роки тому

    Maybe the Roselli width is to enable better splitting ?

  • @jeremyatkinson4976
    @jeremyatkinson4976 6 років тому

    I wonder if the socket design evolved to make best use of the type of shaft material available, birch?

    • @jeremyatkinson4976
      @jeremyatkinson4976 6 років тому +1

      Your sockets have more support for the handle than further south. Further south Birch isn't used for handles as it is thought of as too weak a wood. However there is some evidence that northern birch is much tougher. In Scotland carts were made from birch but not in England. Tests were done in the 50's and it was found scottish birch was strong. Whether this is genetic or environment I don't know, but there is a wood near me with self seeding scottish birch and the clogs I have made from it seem as least as tough as sycamore, even though it was softer to carve green.

    • @haraldthi
      @haraldthi 6 років тому

      Birch is easily available while other hardwoods have a norther limit, yes. And while birch can crack too easily in the south, slow growing birch like you can find near the tree limit is tough like heck. It has to, in order to survive the snow and the wind.
      I’m sure there are better woods, but it’s traditional and it works.

  • @user-iz9po5mi8c
    @user-iz9po5mi8c 11 місяців тому

    Sharp roselli axe splits wood really well..but it really needs to be sharp

  • @Mrplacedcookie
    @Mrplacedcookie 6 років тому +2

    Nice collection. Interesting to see the traditional Finish axes. How about Fiskars? ;) I have A couple Gransfors Bruks and actually a Fiskars X7. Regards from Sweden. ☺

  • @achillesdanieladam9486
    @achillesdanieladam9486 8 років тому +3

    Really nice video. I am always interested in Finland's traditions and way of living and its tools.
    So I understood that thin blade axes work better in warm climates while wider ones in cold climates. Really interesting info which I did not know. Wetterlings are a little bit wider from Gransfors so maybe they behave a little better in cold weather.
    Roselli seems of high quality but a little bit useless in basic tasks.

    • @achillesdanieladam9486
      @achillesdanieladam9486 8 років тому

      +Marcus Lepola Nice info, thank you Marcus

    • @haraldthi
      @haraldthi 6 років тому +2

      What I can say is, in a wet climate, splitting wood is really important That’s pretty much the only way you can get it to burn. So you need a good splitting axe.

  • @thechildofthedamned
    @thechildofthedamned 8 років тому

    the school i attend in denmark offers a month internship in many countries including finland, with every thing paid, if i were to decide to go to finland, and decided to maybe buy a axe or 2 how easy would these traditional axes be to find?

    • @Rosak
      @Rosak 8 років тому +1

      +Bushcraftapprentice Easy. Countryside fleamarkets or auctions tend to have these all the time, rusted ones with ok'ish shafts cost 15-25 euros. If there's no rust, people will buy them fro 40-50 euros. What I do is I buy the rusty ones, get some acid to clean them, tar the blade and sell them for profit (while stil ladding some to my collection :)

    • @RasmusPetterssonVik
      @RasmusPetterssonVik 8 років тому

      +Rosak You should sell them to Sweden instead, they are few and far between here :)

  • @jadedsamuria
    @jadedsamuria 3 роки тому

    Do the numbers mean anything?

  • @silverback4434
    @silverback4434 2 роки тому

    The roselli look badass but too much thick head to be a good cutter .

  • @jonatamateustrindade543
    @jonatamateustrindade543 2 роки тому

    Amigo o próximo vídeo faz com os machados maiores beleza 👍

  • @ristoalanko9281
    @ristoalanko9281 3 роки тому +2

    The shape and angles of the old Finnish axes are what they are, for a purpose.

  • @ojoj6707
    @ojoj6707 7 років тому

    missä asut

  • @pierreloison6595
    @pierreloison6595 3 роки тому

    Hiii you have make your bag in a wood ? Its wonderful ? Its possible bying this bag ?

    • @larrywave
      @larrywave 3 роки тому

      Google birch bark bag

  • @seppok2258
    @seppok2258 7 років тому

    Rosellin terä on tosiaan aika paksu. Onko tätä palautetta/syytä kukaan kysellyt?

    • @mlepola1
      @mlepola1  7 років тому +2

      Seppo Kupiainen kuningasideana taitaa olla se että terä ei takerru halkaistavaan puuhun ja myönnettäköön että se soveltuu siihen tarkoitukseen ihan hyvin, edellyttäen että puuaines ei ole liian paksua ja kovaa. Kirveellä sopii siis halkoa grillipaikalla olevia puita pienimmiksi haloiksi. Itse reagoin siihen että kyseistä mallia myydään perinteisenä retkipiiluna kun vastaavanlaisia kirveitä ei suomessa olla käytetty puiden halkomiseen. Rosellin kirves mustuttaa pientä veistopiilua, mutta terän paksuus on tässä tapauksessa omaa luokkaansa. Eli perinteisestä kirveestä ei oikein voi puhua sillä malli on sen verran omitakeinen, lähinnä voisi sanoa että kyseinen kirves on suomalaisen kirvesperinteen moderni tulkinta. Olisi kiinnostavaa tietää missä kirveen terää valmistetaan? Väitetään että retkipiilu on Suomessa valmistettu mutta kirveen terän valmistuspaikkaa ei ilmoiteta. Voi siis olla mahdollista että kirveen terä on ulkomaista tuotosta ja suomessa yhteen kasattu. Toivottavasti Roselli ilmoittaa mikä on asian laita niin ei jää tilaa spekuloinneille.

    • @GOLDSMITHEXILE
      @GOLDSMITHEXILE 7 років тому

      I found a company in Finland that sells the roselli axe head only, I always took it for granted they are made in Finland, would be disapointed to find they are chinese.....
      BTW Skari are you the new finnish axe seller on ebay?

    • @mlepola1
      @mlepola1  7 років тому

      All of Roselli puukko knives are 100% handmade in Finland in Rosellis own knife smithy. However, the hatchets are apparently made at a different location. IMany Finnish businesses are now outsourcing the manufacture of products to cheaper countries - The Fiskars company is manufacturing their gardening tools in Poland. The Marttiini Puukko Company knife sheats are now made in Pärnu, Estonia. Roselli has thankfully not gone down this path with his puukkos but I can not say what the situation is with the axe heads. The only one who can provide an definate answer on this is the manufacturer.
      Skäri sells some vintage axes on ebay, but it is a small scale operation. Some of the Finnish Billnäs heads that are made available have been reworked by a local master blacksmith in Pargas and come with a life time warranty that covers manufactural damages. Skäri - restored axes are made available in a local crafts store in Pargas, Finland.

    • @henryhakamaki4090
      @henryhakamaki4090 7 років тому

      Well Marcus, what do you think of almost all puukko makers in Finland (minus Roselli) reverting to using Lauri blades? Made in Finland, but the working part of the puukkos aren't made by the puukko makers.

    • @mlepola1
      @mlepola1  7 років тому

      Henry Hakamäki Yes, many knife manufacturers use Lauri blades. There are also many small pukko smiths that make blade, haft and sheath themselves. The Lauri blades are inexpensive and of good quality. The steel is easy to sharpen. I think its good that there are proper knives made available at reasonable prices. There are also more exclusive blacksmithed knives available for customers who want something extra. I am just glad that pukko making thrives in Finland and puukkos are exported abroad. I do not really see it as a negative thing that the Lauri blades are used widely by knife makers as there also is a rich variety of puukkos that have been made by skilled blacksmiths.

  • @user-ju8qu9gc6v
    @user-ju8qu9gc6v 4 роки тому +1

    По модельному ряду топоров можно проследить как деградировала эстетика и эргономика инструмента к началу 21 века. И так от биллнаса 12 скатились до фискарсов и т.п.

    • @Luca-gj4yi
      @Luca-gj4yi 2 роки тому

      Sooner even, from 1960.

  • @daveburklund2295
    @daveburklund2295 5 місяців тому

    The Bilnas performed better thsn the Roselli.Which isnquite a statement considering the latter was 10x more in price!

  • @ralphbuttner7520
    @ralphbuttner7520 8 років тому +1

    That was a really good video, thanks! So I once owned a Roselli too and I did not like it a single bit. I donated it to a friend and switched to a GB SFA instead. I don't regret this at all. But back to the Roselli: I am not quite sure, if the design was entitely Heimo Rosellis idea. I know a man, who is very believable, who claimes he took a major part in the design progress.

  • @paulskystoneadventures
    @paulskystoneadventures 3 роки тому

    👍👍

  • @Mkahelin
    @Mkahelin 8 років тому +1

    Neeman tools makes 3 types of finnish axes! Based and inspired by the Billnäs axes!

  • @zov640
    @zov640 5 років тому +2

    Сухие ветки на дереве надо сбивать обухом)

  • @dickvarga6908
    @dickvarga6908 6 років тому +2

    the roselli is neither fish nor fowl, it has aspects of a splitting axe (profile) but is too light to do the job,it is too small & light for falling and limbing trees, the beard is too narrow to last long, it might work well as a woodcarvers tool, i have been told it is used to chop through ribs of deer, cattle & hogs when butchering them.

    • @MrRourk
      @MrRourk 6 років тому +2

      Dick Varga It excels at butchering and skinning game/livrstock.

    • @ajaxtelamonian5134
      @ajaxtelamonian5134 5 років тому

      Yeah think ill stick to my Bahco 19" rucksack axe which I thinned down for anything semi serious hiking wise.

  • @onixpyro3883
    @onixpyro3883 7 років тому +4

    dude would u get me an axe head from where ever u got that $10 bilnas? :) obviously id pay

  • @redcanoe14
    @redcanoe14 8 років тому

    Hi Marcus
    Check out my video' Finnish Billnas No. 7 Axe'....my first video, I hope you enjoy!

  • @ketjuariittaa
    @ketjuariittaa 8 років тому

    Roselli have nice Puuko and Axe. I have many puukko that are best on wood works. And axe is nice for lite works. If i want to realy split 20" circle to 20" long i use Fiskars heavier duty.

  • @leebruce8693
    @leebruce8693 6 років тому +3

    Seem like roselli axe was designed by some sort of artist. No really by axe user let alone axe expert. And that sheath is a joke. Thanks for sharing!

    • @irenekey8946
      @irenekey8946 4 роки тому

      lee bruce artist who stepped in moose shit and needed to clean boot

  • @hugoakerlund5114
    @hugoakerlund5114 7 років тому +8

    uuuhhhh the gränsfors isnt an americanized axe. the blades are of scandinavian design made for cutting into the trees we have. And you can see that our axes are different to american by just looking at them. They dont like american axes at all.

    • @Zahnle
      @Zahnle 6 років тому +4

      the basic design of an axe with a weighted poll behind the blade like on gransfors and most other axes was an American development, I think that's what he's referring too. A lot of their axes are a kind of modified rockaway pattern.

    • @overboard965
      @overboard965 5 років тому +1

      I suppose ‘using axes’ in that sense haven’t really been made since the chainsaw became widespread in the 60’s/70’s, but in my experience gränsfors make very functional axes for those who aren’t willing to put in the work of restoring an old axe.
      Hickory doesn’t grow in Sweden which has always been a con with making axes for the American market there. For some reason, they always did though...

    • @overboard965
      @overboard965 5 років тому +3

      Of course GB axes are for hobbyists because the work they were originally intended for (logging,construction) is now done by machine professionally.
      You make a good point about the bushcraft scene though. Well atleast people are going outside and using their hands :)

  • @jeffkent7459
    @jeffkent7459 2 роки тому

    Please don't take this the wrong way. I mean no disrespect. However, I would not based my decision on that axe based on this video. I would say put the axe in a super proficient woodsman's hands and see how they can do with general bushcraft (splitting/limbing/general work). There must be a reason why the head is designed that way. I have a feeling it would split lit wood like crazy. No, it's not a carpentry axe but I'm sure in the right hands it could suffice if needed.

  • @Daws867
    @Daws867 5 років тому +4

    has this guy ever split wood...jesus christ this was hard to watch..

  • @Sgtassburgler
    @Sgtassburgler 5 років тому +2

    I will never buy a roselli. It looks like it performs terribly and billnas/kelloski axes are the true traditional patterns.

  • @Mr71paul71
    @Mr71paul71 5 років тому

    the roselli looks like a totally rubbish axe. where as the 12/3 looks like a pretty descent axe, so can I buy a new one

  • @mustamuri
    @mustamuri 7 років тому

    Noilla kirveillä ei kyllä tee yhtään mitään....jos kiinnostaa nähdä hyvä kirves joka soi tosi kauniisti , niin kannattaa vilkaista Andrey Pereberin kanavaa .

  • @jacksolhaug7070
    @jacksolhaug7070 5 років тому +1

    Roselli axes sucks!