JOHN McLAUGHLIN & ERIC CLAPTON | The story of CREAM & LED ZEP is stranger than you think!
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
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Videos like this is why I listen to Andy for about a year now. Thanks, it is like having an awesome uncle tell me stories about music with such enthusiasm. Thanks, Unc.
@RickBeato I hope you don't mind me using your interview footage with Dennis, I'm so happy to get that bit in the context of this video....
I hope he doesn't mind too. I enjoy hearing this from you.
Beato was a Jazz snob too.
@@davekijek2302Beato thinks 90’s grunge is the greatest rock ever.
@@deetee4403 You are a troll. He has, twice. He watches the channel.
No one group created Jazz. Not the Spasm bands, Not the white jazz groups that predate Bolden, not the assumed Black groups that pre date 1890. My claim is they all did, they all played a part. But you keep misrepresenting me here because you are a troll. You have become someone who pours over my videos and these comments looking for a way of undermining my position without actually stating any counter argument. Dropping little replies to other peoples comments. I have 1/2 million people watching this channel a month. The vast majority are lovely people. But you continually spout untruths like Beato won't reply when he has, or sarcastic bitter comments like the one above. God knows what you do or why you waste your time on this I don't know. It's sad. Is there any chance you could go and find someone else to bother so I can get on with trying to run this UA-cam channel?
The book Bathed in Lightning covers a lot of this history
Indeed in great detail. A wonderful and must read for anybody interested in 60’s blues rock & jazz developments.
It really annoyed me as I knew so many musicians who had played with McLaughlin and I didn’t know to ask them!
I was in contact with Colin who write it but he seems to have disappeared off Facebook. He influenced this video a lot
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer This is really only Andy's take on that book [and its supplement 'Echoes from Then]. So why doesn't he credit Coli n Harper?
Not's its not. I explain my personal link to this story and I say stuff here that no one has heard before.
I enjoy hearing Andy’s take on this bit of history and I appreciate his personal perspective added to the mix,
wanted to hear more about this time but don’t know how to get “Echoes from Then”.
This was fascinating.
As a guitarist of over 40 years I have never heard all of this tied together.
This was really awesome Andy.
It is so refreshing to see any comments by McLaughlin / Auger (personal fave) Bruce / Baker / Clapton.
Top notch Andy - thanks so much for doing this, you've really brought this era of London alive. As a minor aside, the Selmer music shop was 114-116 Charing Cross Road. You might remember it as Turnkey Music. I think it's a coffee shop now!
I remember a music shop on Charing Cross Road in 1977. Is this the shop you/Andy are referring to? I remember there being a lot of saxophones in the window.
Thanks for that info.
Excellent Andy and I would say one of the best films that you have ever produced. As you say, this is just scratching the surface and I would certainly be very interested in follow-up films on acts like Zoot Money, Cyril Davies All Stars, Mike Patto, Ollie Halsall, Joe Moretti, Mick Green and Vic Briggs to name just a few. I always feel that Colosseum, Tempest and Isotope never got the credit that they deserve.
Nice to hear you give Big Jim Sullivan a mention. He was friends with George Harrison and they they used to play sitar at Friar Park.
You probably know this Andy but Brian Auger played the harpsichord intro on The Yardbirds For Your Love.
“Devotion” is one gorgeous cut. The first time I heard it I thought “This is what might have happened if Jimi were to do a tribute to Coltrane.” How right I was.
What I take from this is the connection between Coltrane and Hendrix, I’m so glad to see JM pointing to it. For me Trane solo in Ole is the precursor of all long guitar solos of late 60s and early 70s specially Hendrix, all the expression and intensity is there. Coltrane and Hendrix that’s it 👍
Great video. I have often wondered why Ginger Baker chose Eric for Cream and not John McLaughlin. Now I know. Thank-you for that.
I have been fascinated by John McLauglin ever since my music teacher gave me a Mahavishnu Orchestra album and told me that I should listen to it saying that John was from Yorkshire. At first I dismissed this wrongly assuming that Yorkshire must mean "Harrogate" which was a world away from South Yorkshire where I grew up. You can imagine my surprise when I discovered that he was from Doncaster!!!
Every time I think a video can't get any better you find a way of topping your last this is so interesting most of what you've discussed is new to me I know the musicians I didn't understand not only their connections but their influences to one another thanks again for marvelous teaching course and I bow do you expertise
I discovered Duffy Power years ago.
One of the first people to cover a Beatles song.
Highly recommended Cd that came out in 2002 was " Leapers and Sleepers" great sounding recordings
Another great post Andy, John McLaughlin is right up there with my very favorites,and I've seen him every chance I possibly could!
Being in the U.S. during the sixties I'd never heard of John McLaughlin. The first time I was aware of him was seeing the pictures of him and Carlos Santana in the Mahavishnu Orchestra. 1973 I believe. When Carlos started in this new direction most of the original band quickly left. Only drummer Mike Shrieve stayed.
Wonderful video Andy. Essential viewing for any rock fan. There's a book in this, or a video series. Fascinating history telling a great story.
Fascinating. So many stories to tell. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for putting this together.
And wonderful to honor Peter Wynne
Rock and roll, blues, hardcore, ska, Zep, Beatles, Bond, all on Hollywood Boulevard , guitar and voice, without Rick Beato's industry or permission. Come to Hollywood, Rick, I'll play you a set, no charge.
Thanks for that Andy. That was most enjoyable and informative.
The thing that amazes me the most about John McLaughlin is his modesty.
With me it's his hairy ear flaps
Love the footage from 1965 with all the musicians up on giant shelves. I wish I had played up on a shelf.
THERES STILL TIME
John has always been at the center of the fusion thing. It's like 6 degrees of separation with John and the best music of our times and this makes me think that he is probably the most important musician of our time as well.
Absolutely. The hub to which all the spokes are connected. And through it all, still very relevant and humble. A prince among men
John said early on he dismissed the Beatles as unserious pop drivel (paraphrasing)…said something like “I was working on Giant Steps and didn’t have time for trite pop stuff’…but then he heard Revolver and was blown away their depth and talent.
Brilliant Andy……..Julie Driscoll is worth a mention for her work with Brian Auger…….I bought the Jack Bruce’s Things We Like album expecting some R&B type sound and thought what the hell is this? I still play it today! Thank you…..so many memories!
What an amazing journey: A tour de force, interlacing crossed paths, groundbreaking moments, and what it all means to your life. Thanks much for bringing these stories into the spotlight.
Chris Barber later on had Dr. John as a Guest on Tour and Record. He really liked Rock.
Like this first edition of a new series!
Drop the neck tie - too germanic for me.
Things We Like!
Thanks Andy, fascinating listen.
SAW that Free Spirits tour. Absolutely FANTASTIC!!
Thanks, Andy, one of your best videos, I think! Love how you are pulling these threads together. Of course, this is all leading to a future topic which has to be about Shakti - how many Western musicians have dared to reach into Indian music traditions, not so much the sounds as the melodic and rhythmic structures (ragas, talas). To me, Shakti is the Mount Parnassus of music, only the gods go there, or those chasing the gods! All the best!
McLaughlin and Page also played together on the 1965 EP by: The Hairy Ones - Get Off My Cloud with Bobby Graham; Jimmy Page, lead guitar; John McLaughlin, rhythm guitar; Alan Weighel, bass; Kenny Salmon, organ. The singer was Ray Merill from The Joe Loss Band.
This is great. You hit on all of the major points I have issues with and the ones I admire and love about rock. Sharing now.
A wonderful and fascinating story! Loved every second and I'm not a jazz fan or a John Mclaughlin fan but loved the story of how he influenced the many 60s rock legends. Also fascinated by the story of your father and mother in law, being a singer and meeting various artists. Another fantastic video Andy! (Time for a break now though as I watched your 2 'what make prog crap' and your Genesis top 3 albums videos before this one! lol )
48:55 = hero for humanity; not wasting what remains of his life
Thanks for introducing me to Gordon Beck. I'm listening to their take on Norwegian Wood
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Fascinating video, Andy!
Nicely done. Very revealing and clear. Thanks man.
That was one of your best. Thank you so much!
Glad you liked it!
Brilliant as usual Andy! Lots to research for me now!
Brilliant program here man.. kudos!
This is the best video you've done
Great stuff Andy....fascinating period of music!!!
Great piece of work on documenting this period of time.
A wonderful lecture.
Thank you so much.
JT
Nice one, Andy. Two of my favourites and huge influences on me!
Wow what a wonderful story. Keep up the great work Andy!
Another great video Andy.
Tremendous background to the music we love - thanks Andy!
Your research, insight and delivery (like off the top of your head) is fantastic.
Wonderful video Andy! I was at one of Clapton's other Albert Hall gigs, partly encouraged to go by how much you've talked up Cream's influence, so thanks for that! I'm glad you mentioned getting a bit teary, the whole thing was very emotionally charged for me. I cried at least 3 times, once when Andy Fairweather Low played "If Paradise..." before Clapton and his band even came on. Hoochie Coochie Man was indeed glorious.
Awesome video ❤
What a great post, Andy. Incidentally, Duffy Power's voice always stood out to me. I've never encountered anyone here in California who knows who I'm talking about, but this is proof and lots of great context as well ! Thanks for putting this together.
I've watched many of your videos since finding your channel a few years back, but this has to be one my favourites. Excellently put together, very informative (a lot of it new to me) and presented with passion. Great stuff.
Took about two weeks to pull together. I would love to be able to do 1 video a week instead of 4 and up the quality and content. But proper content like this doesn't get the views, so it's back to the 10 fusion bassists with the fattest arses (Anthony Jackson at number 1)
Utterly captivating. Pulling all those threads together in such a cohesive fashion - with the added personal dimension - is an inestimably powerful addition to the history of rock music. Thank you for your passion, your attention to detail, your insights, and of course, your outstanding story telling skills. Magic.
This was really great. Stuff like this is taking the channel to the next level.
Hope so!
A real classic today, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent job, Andy. Please don't hesitate to do more of these videos in which you share music connections and history. You did it very, very well.
Loving these old interview clips... all gathered into one video.
Absolutely wonderful. For me this is the best one you have done.
This is an outstanding video Andy. This is a time and subject that usually gets mentioned in passing or talked around. Refreshing to hear the importance of the London/UK scene in the early 60s.
There are at least two series to come out of this.
JM popping off to work with Gunther Schuller is a bonus.
Respect for Peter Wynne🙏🏽
Andy- Very cool description of the creative music scene in London in the sixties. I had the sense you were bursting at the seams trying to tie together all the connections that made the scene what it was...well done sir! Your enthusiasm is contagious.
Glad you enjoyed it
Fascinating information! This is why I love your channel.
I appreciate that!
This was exceptional Andy, thank you so much. The interlocking elements are fascinating.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Absolutely top drawer video, Andy many thanks for putting this together. Is there a link to that complete interview with JM?
This is one for the history books. Yes, there are several books covering much of this, but to hear it put together as you did was incredibly interesting.
To say I enjoyed is to put it mildly. I’ll definitely watch this several times soon.
As a McLaughlin fanatic, I would not mind more history related to John. I have many book about John but I love how you presented this in this format.
By the way, your father in law possessed such a gorgeous voice. What a package he was. He had the looks, the talent born in him, and was present at a pivotal time in English music history.
Thank you so much - the passion was the key word...
Connecting the dots!!! Great stuff, thanks for that, just great information about the history of the British scene. WoW, I am amazed.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for this video, Andy. I haven't read or heard anyone weave these strands together before. But, I heard the tonal and rhythmic links between Cream and Mahavishnu. It was like Mahavishnu picked up where Cream left off. Keep the insights coming!
Great story, amazing really. Excellently retold! Thank you Andy
Thanks for listening
Brilliant insight into the intertwined pioneering music art rock jazz scene.
This is why I watch this channel - Andy has an encyclopedic knowledge of the UK rock scene - fascinating video! The fact that you are related to some of these important building blocks (people) of the early UK rock scene just adds to the interest. Here in the U.S. we were at the mercy of what we could get from the UK in import shops. But everyone in my friend group knew the cool prog and fusion bands had a british component and so we would haunt record stores for obscurities from the UK. JEM Records in New Jersey imported quite a few very hard to find items until they went bankrupt in the 80s sometime.
Andy, this is one of the best deep dives on UA-cam. Bravo. I have spent some time looking at the Graham Bond nexus (and also share something of the interest in esoterism and aesthetics), but you show more tributaries I hadn't a clue about. Including your own familial relationships. As if you needed another layer of coolness.
Wow, thanks!
sweet, man ... tear in my eye too
This was great Andy, thanks 🙏 ✌️❤️🎵
Very welcome
This was very enjoyable.
This was terrific.
John McLaughlin plays on _Solid Bond._
Together with Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker, later of Cream.
But on the same album are also playing Jon Hiseman and Dick Heckstall-Smith, later of Colosseum.
Did you spot it in the video?
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer I must have missed it. But I have the album in mp3.
I have it on vinyl...
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Cool.
For a long time were GBO and The Ides of March bands that “I’ll have to listen to when I’ll have time.”
I’ve listened to Ides and was pleasantly surprised. Very!
But I haven’t listened to GBO until relatively recently and I liked them a lot too.
Check out what happens in the video when I say 'creates a Bond'
Wonderful history. Thank you Andy. I hope to see more lectures like this in the future. I wonder if it is possible for you and Andrew Hickey to sit down and have a chat?
brilliant Andy - you made a NEW Patreon ! this is your finest-consider a pt 2 on this era - I am pretty familiar with this era andhVe all Douglass releases. on original vinyl !
Thanks Ken
Very enjoyable and informative.
Talking about Jimmy Page and John McLaughlin, and John’s influence: it seems obvious that Achilles intro is same texture as Birds of fire intro
A good topic for a video would be Andy listing a bunch of songs inspired by Mahavishnu. You could add Rush Xanadu in there as well as Yes "Close to the Edge."
Really interesting discussion! Thank you, Andy. Just as an aside, I see that you have a copy of Jack Bruce's LP Things We Like, one of my favorite albums of all time, right behind you LOL. There is some great playing by John on that record, and they reprise "HCKHH Blues" (another great earlier version was done by Jack, John, Ginger and Graham in '63; it's on Solid Bond).
You're a great passionate culminating influence of great music and information Andy - thanks for making and sharing this. Have loved John Mclaughlin since I was about 12 or 13 - Live Cream being my first ever album in 1980 but once fusion found me I was all in!
My pleasure!
Finally someone speaking about that! Thanks
Great research into a little known period of John McLaughlin. Really interesting
That was a bloody interesting talk. So many connections, I must read Collin Harper's book again. Jeez, imagine trying to make a family tree out of that lot.
PS. Yes I think Big Jim Sullivan had a major influence on JM regarding Indian music. The track 'the koan' he played on from the album 'Sitar beats'
is not a million miles away from Piece 1/2 from 'My Goals Beyond'.
great stories
Brilliant Andy!!
Glad you enjoyed it
good episode
Was that Rodney Dangerfield from Back to School in that Graham Bond clip?😂
Great video of historical importance.
Great history you are sharing. Much of his early history, before Miles Davis, I didn't know. I wish I knew about his connection with Jimmy Page when I was starting to play music back in the early 70's.
Saludos y BENDICIONES desde Puerto Rico
Fantastic one Andy. I remember reading Bathed in Lightning maybe ten years ago, and the whole 60s session stuff was a total surprise. I've ofyen thought Jimi was the next John Coltrane evolution, not Alice.
Extrapolation = superb album
When we read biographies of musicians and bands, they are of necessity fairly linear tales, so the many and varied connections made along the way are often only hinted at, or not mentioned at all. So it's left to fans to put the bits and pieces together to try and achieve some picture of the whole, drawing on available sources mixed with a lot of speculation, projection or invention. I don't think musicians are necessarily the best chroniclers of their journeys through a business that more often than not is focused on the now or the next rather than looking to the past. And even when the business is nostalgia, a particular and partial narrative is frequently the aim. So, with lives endings and memories fading, it's likely that we'll never have a complete picture of what was surely one of the most exciting an innovative times in the history of music. It's good that you mention Big Jim Sullivan; someone who was clearly a significant figure during that time, but who is only really known through his association with others who went on to become more famous. He may not have the solo musical legacy to show for it, but he was someone who tied a lot of threads together.
Wonderful job, again. The history as written does seem to imply that John Mac kind of emerged from nowhere in about 1969/1970 as this fully formed monster, but he had to have had a big, at least among guitarists, rep during the 60s. Ginger and Jack were jazzers and must have known him well, I would guess, right? Another one who was on the scene--older than the Yardbirds' holy Trinity of Eric, Jimmy and Jeff was Andy Summers (81 now) who it is my understanding trained as a classical guitarist (maybe he was hanging with John Williams?). He and Eric are connected--believe Eric gave him a guitar (or the other way around?) in the 60s. Can you possibly enlighten us on Andy S.? Thanks--this Pittsburgh boy always perks up when I see a new post from you. Keep on keepin' on.
Oh BTW, "unanimously guilty on all 34 felony counts" sounds to me like a magnificent guitar solo. We ain't dead yet, over here.
loved the old clips of McL - as far as the pre invasion groups and artists likeGraham Bond - have you ever heard the cd “Knights of the Blues-table ? w georgie fame , mick taylor , mick and chris jagger etc - you’d like it
I never knew John Maclaughlin is a Yorkshire lad!… then I heard Ginger Baker call him a moaner, and it made sense 😂