This ending makes me think about the genocide route a bit more. Instead of sans pushing Susie over the edge with the whole "as if she has a family who would care if she's dead" and overall being a psycho, it makes me feel like he wanted to be killed. By the monster who he almost killed in his world, no less. Maybe he has some sort of guilty conscience from almost killing the orphan Susie, and if he already knew he was going to die in the genocide route, he would want to die by Susie's hands of all people. I'm honestly glad they gave GG!Underfell sans more depth then just being a power hungry maniac.
@@nothinginteresting971There's 2 routes 1. You beat sans normally and susie finishes him off 2. When sans is on critical hp use iceshock and he will freeze
ok so i have some things to say about this new ending i do like how this ties into one of undertale's themes, being everyone can be saved. (something like that) i also like that this gives us more backstory on G!Fell sans as a character. the interaction between sans and papryus is great to see. this also ties into the fact that GG!Fell is just an alternate timeline to undertale. however i dont like how they went about the backstory. personally i would've made it to where he actually killed susie. it also felt like it just kinda came out of nowhere? fell literally just goes "you wanna know why?" to "oh my god what have i done?" i also personally would've liked if they stuck with the "you cant save everyone" theme they were going for. this is also not my game, but i just wanted to get some of my thoughts down
i absolutely do agree that the "you can't save everyone" motif should've been kept. for deltatraveler, at least. i would've made it so that sparing the final bosses of each chapter would give you a bad "foolish pacifist" ending. pacifist routes are insanely overrated in the ut/dr community, as are genocide routes. various types of neutral don't get enough attention.
@@helio3928You can still do that, there are other, significantly better candidates for that message. porky in particular comes to mind as sparing him leads to the events of mother 3 and the atrocities that he committed during that game.
this is a good take on the information we got, you have upsides and downsides and personally it makes it all the more better that it is being chosen, GG!Underfell sans in my eyes, isn't a shitty thing even after this new pacifist ending. it makes sense, besides Sans says no before he begins to open up, showing that stubbornness and while i do agree how the change is a little confusing it just makes it feel that much more...yk unique, it's following what Undertale's message is "that everyone can be saved" and while it does make a bit more sense for that theme of "you cant save everyone" to stick i feel as if it can slide for this, it's a link between Undertale. and GG!Underfell
That sans has 4 ways to be defeated FOR GENOCIDE :) 1. Fight him 2. Ice shock him For pacifist... 1. Sleepmist him 2. Talk to him until he gives up (NEW)
@@dylanzlol7293Thats the cutscene that was missing in the previous versions said it by one of the devs. So we have one for sparing him in Obliteration, and a 2nd variation of this cutscene if you make Susie Devious beforehand.
I'd both actually have him kill the orphan, and then have susie intercede to talk a bit of crap about it, catching a glint of the real sans inside. "Cathartic? Then why did you look away unlike all of this crap you been doing. I don't buy it for a damn second." And then, Sans starts to talk more on it, explaining it... Shifting to a more broken demeanor, realizing he *isn't as proud as he thought he was about his kill count* and then he eventually just completely breaks down, resulting in the rest of the dialogue that provides the explanation wanted.
This mean gg!underfell pacifist is going to be something else about changing the main boss to see forgiveness and to be good, which mean this might be leak to the main game
man but that does not mean u have the right to take the life of another person , let alone plan in front of another person on how to kill them and how much joy they got by *killing* an orphan. Man by this logic a lot of schoolshooters would be free and have the chance to do it again , Some people just don t deserve forgiveness ,no matter how much harm they had suffered in their lifes , because that pain is temporary and can be overcome , killing someone is a permanent fate that you sign it with blood. i mean by what we know about susie she has a problematic childhood , *abusive* parents , kinda new in town , and no friends , but she didn t become a killer , she made friends with kris and turned the leaf
Dude this guy was happy about killing an infant, he’s evil, i don’t care what shit forgiveness thing undertale fans like, he’s like the geno route player, sparing one monster in hotland after killing everyone else does NOT justify the player actions
@@ArceTheTroll sometimes i feel like ut fans cant handle the presence of an actual unredeemable character or at least one that doesnt actually deserve mercy, they made fell!sans do a 180 on his personality simply to make him seem good enough to make people want to spare him.
Gg!toriel also does a 360 after sparing her The thing is, both her in the main series and sans here are being forced to stop and think, and then realize what they're doing My guess is that, monster souls here are still made of kindness and love, and that's why, despite everything, they can change for the better
They made it so instead of one thing setting him off making him a maniac to someone who you can forgive without thinking about should or shouldn't you kill him. Pretty interesting
This feels more like a retcon as a reaction to people hating GG!sans more than anything, but I guess it makes him more interesting. This'll surely change people's opinion about him. Though I did prefer the maniac murderer who turned to killing people purely because of extreme nihilism. Like how OG Sans turned to jokes and lazinesss because of nihilism.
@@Thorumsu I didn't include it but I think it's also was made so the people who said that 'sans is too *EDGY* ' or ' he wouldn't hurt papyrus ' would stop whining about it. I mean I can definitely see the appeal in this sans and I still think eepy ending is better but this kinda adds on the character and makes him closer too undertale self instead of usual under fell universe
well usually it's a build up of things until the one thing comes and makes him a maniac and here we are getting exposition of that build up instead of him say "Oh no I became bad because of specifically THIS EVENT"
Unfortunate for him: In my playthrough I'm going with a Neutral route where I kill the Section's main boss. Mostly so I have some extra health to work with while playing the game and to see what sort of ending, or endings, you get from doing a Neutral run.
while i did like the character that we fought on previous patches, it was hard to call him "sans" with how entirely disconnected he was from the actual sans's personality. this was a good change if the creator wanted to make this au more believable in the actual undertale universe. that being said, based on how he openly threatens frisk during the pacifist, i can't say him not having the will to kill a child was the change that made him more believable, rather him being open minded enough for you to spare him.
Eh, tbh, I'd have liked if they saved a moment like this for the actual GG!UF rather than DeltaTraveler, I liked the idea of this Sans not being fully spared by the fun gang due to them being passed by the AU more than anything while leaving the actual sparing part to the Frisk of this AU
That does make sense, but the child he was about to kill was a fellow monster child. The reason why sans openly threatened frisk is because of their correlation to the freedom of the underground. and even if frisk seems to be a good person in the pacifist route, sans himself (and some other monsters) does talk about how resentful monsterkind feels towards humankind, the ones that trapped them in the underground.
@@perrykv7312I was thinking GGFell was going to be left in an awkward spot by Deltatraveller already surpassing where the story was left off, and this update just compounds that issue to me. I do wonder what they plan to do from here.
Well you have some good reasoning but the sans that is shown is based of a different au, the term au stands for alternate universe with Undertale some aus include Underswap story shift last breath and the list goes on and on but back to why sans was like that the video shows Underfell sans in which Underfell is an au I hope this helps you understand a bit more clearly 😊
Honestly I kind of get the impression that GG underfill is going to get rebooted. It seems like the creator still has interest in underfill but has learned a lot over the years and wants to start fresh. I could be mistaken but my guess would be this is kind of the end of the road for this version of the AU
Suzie was the most cathartic kill Fell!Sans has done... Until it wasn't And finally he can be turned good, in true Underfell fashion, better than put him to sleep and move on. And while I do think that unredeeable villains with 0 explanations on why they do what they do is metal, not even Underfell is the best place for those types
I think this honestly fits more. I can see Sans losing himself and going off the deep end, taking a much more violent past of Nihlism. But in the end, I can't see him TRULY liking it. This feels a lot more believable to me.
@@BeTalf Well, Sans has always been one to keep secrets. A version of the Delta Warriors did something to him, and it was the catalyst for his spiral into madness.
Technically he never apologised or even showed any sign that he doesn't hate Kris still. My headcanon is that he still hates the Delta Warriors, but was too overcome by guilt to acknowledge them at that moment.
Ok I really like the new ending, Sans's depression and hopelessness being amplified but the horrible world of Underfell, being extended from just apathy to a suicidal idealation in destroying the entire world is really heartbreaking.
Idc what they say, this ending is way better The only thing i hated abt gg!sans is that he had ZERO reason for what he did. Now he does. Even if it wasnt fully justified. He doesnt feel like a genocidal "cool" sans oc that has meaningless bloodlust It isnt perfect but its SO much better
Honestly, what I am more surprised about is that people seem to miss the subtext. Entirely within this ending, we get explicit confirmation that Sans had met a "Susie", and said Susie (which contextually is implied to have been with a Kris and a Noelle) did something to him big enough to make him want to take vengeance for it. That never happened in the end tho, because against Suzy he understood that she wasn't anywhere near the same Susie that did something to him, and against deltatraveler Susie he was forced to think about the entire situation while resting. THAT is what made him snap out. (Fyi, from what I can gather past the context of the ending, deltatraveler considers the vanilla and gg!fell Sans' to come from a destroyed Deltarune world, ence why the fact that this Sans is MORE violent against the party)
Eh, tbh, this one kinda feels like a Dust Sans without the "Frisk, I remember you're genocides" part, it feels somewhat underwhelming, I'm not against the idea of this Sans not having a spare ending, but I feel like, if anything, it should've been saved for GG!Underfell rather than DeltaTraveler
Yeah, I'm not feeling this. It's simply such an obvious "noooo forgive sans--look, he didn't actually kill an orphan, he's forgiveable !1!1!" on the part of the creator, and it just feels cheap. Like someone else said in the comment section, I would've had *Susie* talk with him, hash it out (with him truly having killed her UF self) and then break him down in some way. That would've been a way to tie the Underfell experience into a neat little bow.
I say yes... but I also understand that there are some so rooted in their ways that they refuse to change or even have the self-awareness to acknowledge that there's something wrong with them. To become a better person, you have to be capable looking at yourself and admitting that you have a problem, or problems, and need to have the strength to either make those changes or to seek out help.
For everyone saying its out of character for GG!Fell Sans to even do any of this, this actually fits with how Pacifist works in Underfell. You make them snap out of it. You make them better people. I wouldn't be surprised if this were to happen in the actual animation series when it eventually continues, because this feels like something that would actually happen in it. It feels shoehorned in, sure, but I don't think its THAT out of character, even if it is a little. I also think people should remember that this used to be normal Undertale Sans, he can likely be redeemed if that's the case.
I love how this explains better sans' motive and character other than just doing this for fun. It conveys so much more emotions, so many more thoughts for us to reconsider what he truly is while also makes us feel sastified that we've just helped someone to turn on a new leaf. I love their directions here and I'm more than excited to see whats to come in the next updates!
With this simple change, GG fells sans is now way much better now he doesn't feel like the overly edgy sans with the "I KILLEF ORPHAN!!!" thing anymore. Fr that dialogue was very awkward to take serious, and funny enough it feel like sans was lying to make he feel more threatening
He surly would become our puppet by doing that and like that we either will redeem him for his actions or will make him a more monster than he already is
I really do not enjoy what this new ending does to Fell retroactively. For me at least, the entire point of the character was his entirely unredeemable personality and actions. He was designed to be a completely and utterly deranged person. That being said he wasn't well written even if i did enjoy it. One thing i like about this ending is giving him a motivation beyond "I'm evil lol" and "yall did something I'll never be specific about, die." The idea he just got so sick of everyone he knew, including himself, suffering everyday he snapped and wanted to end everything and everyone Is a really good idea at a base level. It parallels og Sans' nihilism. It's a reasonable explanation as to why he started killing and went down the slippery slope and it gives a legitimate reason why he wants a soul beyond being power hungry. It also parallels og Sans' laziness with fell actively persuing his goal near constantly throughout the chapter and losing most of his other "Sans" traits like the constant puns, role as judge and love toward his brother. Then they follow up that reveal with a breakdown which i absolutely hate. The whole concept of LOVE and EXP is that it dulls your abilty to feel sympathy and makes it easier for you to hurt others. Something Fell Sans shows A LOT during his screentime prior to his fight. He murders indiscriminately and fairly frequently according to Papyrus, almost kills Papyrus (if you choose to walk past his letter bomb), knocks him off a huge cliff, and went out of his way to attempt to murder an orphan just because he thought they were a younger version of someone he hated. He absolutely has more wherewithal to endure some proding into his actions and revealing the fact he didn't actually kill Suzy if he was fine potentially killing his brother twice. On that point, while i kinda like the fact he didn't have the killer instinct to murder a child, at the same time he absolutely should have. This Sans is completely insane in 95% of his screentime and develops a conscience when its convient to the plot. At least that's how i feel about it. He isn't my character, and i have no say in how he was objectively supposed to be written or turn out, but it feels like such a u-turn. Not every villain needs to have a sympathetic motivation or a emotional breakdown or hesitate to do heinous actions. Again, i do like how the basis of his downward spiral was a "noble" goal of ending everyone's suffering but everything else here is so fuckin sloppy imo. Tl:dr: He shoulda stayed irredeemable but i like the new motivation.
Agree, I feel like you should talk more, maybe having Susie and Noelle talk as well, but I get why ut was this way, as GG underfell was because of a glitch, and when it was removed and Sans turned back to white, his senses came back aswell
Damn I really like this ending, probably my favourite. In the regular pacifist spare ending I like how Papyrus gives up his dreams of being a royal guard and abandons the battle body, but Sans is still in that pyschotic mindset and would still want to kill everyone, plus he's RIGHT BY THE DOOR, so he could try and kill those in other worlds cause he only sees the negative side of everything. This new one gives a better ending and fits the pacifist route more.
I mean i would expect some kind of this ending at first time when i saw deltaraveler. And it's maybe make em have other personality besides heartless maniac and stuff- (I'm kinda accept this aighty) But lemme jus' say. *We are not killing orphans with this one* 💀
gotta be honest chief. this sucks i don't like how contrived it feels after going through the rest of the route it doesn't feel earned, it just feels like it comes out of nowhere. i know most people don't like dark shit and want for there to be happier endings but this ain't it; him suddenly changing his mind? "snapping out of it"? this doesn't happen like the way it's portrayed here, you don't instantly see the error in your ways (especially if you have shit tons of LOVE) and decide "welp, guess i was stupid". i liked the fact the previous ending was unsatisfying, because it made sense and left us with an understanding that there really wasn't anything else we could have done. now it's just cheap
I would make you have to talk more with him, but I get what happened, as in the gg universe monsters were corrupted by a bug and became evil, only turning back to normal after snapping back. And while I feel like the after Sans is alright with this backstory, I feel like he snapped out of it too fast
Yeah, people forget that 70% that's happening is because of a computer bug, and when It's removed and they turn back to normal/white, they're like "what the hell was I doing"
@@GROAT72We already know all of the future sections, Section 4 is A Link to the Past, Section 5 is TS!Underswap, Section 6 is Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story, Section 7 is Toontown, and Section 8 is Lostcore/Gaster.
3:54 This is a distorted mentality, sans. If you want to change the world, you shouldn't destroy it. It will disappear, it won't suffer anyway, you will suffer more because you took away other people's wishes. If you choose to change it instead of doing that, then everyone will not suffer. *because burning or destroying a world does not make that world any better than ending it anyway.*
Well it is too bad that they mentioned Undyne because considering how insane the royal guard requirements must be I don't think Undyne will let Papyrus leave alive. But maybe I am wrong...I hope
Considering that the og GG underfell would probably have Undyne as the third boss and Sans as one of the last in the final corridor, I would say that Undyne still has more sanity than Sans
And even if she tryed to attack, I feel like Sans and Papyrus together could win, the only problem would be if she like, got Alphys to call mettaton or Asgore or something, but I honestly feel like they wouldn't care
Poorly executed qnd added late, but if people don't mind him going back on his word, then all is cool I guess. An Ending always does wonders to a cutscene
We have to remember that in the GG underfell series, all the shit that happened was because of a virus, and when we make them turn back to normal(not hostile/red) is when they can actually think
I actually just guenuenly hate this ending, this contradicts sans's ENTIRE personality and his motives makes no sense, hes an addict and a coward, but nope. He just vents you all the issues he has as if its some kind of therapy session. I really wouldive like to see how pacifism sometimes does more harm than good, but its the same as always with the lesson of "no kill = good". A perfect way that this couldive ended is that he no longer cares about papyrus now and he runs away, signifying that hes and has been unsavable by the time you went to the AU, but i guess not. I hope the official GG fell animations dont do what deltatraveler did.
finally, an ending where sans' face ain't yeeted. next thing I know, they will do dusttale in deltatraveller as a ending for the genocide route. edit 1 : okay the ending is worse, sans will probably suicided after this. edit 2 : holy shit sans is gonna become gohan. edit 3 : DUSTTALE - CHAPTER 7 (GENOCIDE EXCLUSIVE, COOL UNBALANCED BATTLE WHERE SANS TRAPS YOU ALL OVER THE PLACE)
I think deltatraveler follows the "Sans is from deltarune" theory, as in normal snowdin we can go to Sans basement and find a photo album with Sans and hometown. - Gg Sans probably faced a weird route, considering that he said how ironic it was that we killed him with ice shock
And again it happens, I really dislike this change in a matter of writing. It feels like an foul attempt to make Sans to be likeable enough to be considered redeemable. And the fact that Sans isn't just a remorseless killer isn't a problem by itself, the problem lies precisely in presenting this "change of heart" too abruptly. It's almost like if Ganondorf in the end of ocarina of time just started talking about how badly he regrets everything he's done. The story just doesn't give us any hints towards ambiguity of his persona (and it's too short to do so). The game also unlays on you a whole veil of text that's just considered to be a bad taste in writing. OG scene wasn't actually good, but at the least, it didn't resolve the whole conflint in matter of one painfully long and out-of-pocket scene.
This is just exacerbating the problems with the writing. Now this ending went from pointlessly edgy, to melodramatic without any build up. It’s one thing to completely re-write the chapter and all of the context surrounding Sans and the final encounter, it’s another to just tack this on at the end. It’s the same problem a lot of games have with DLC stories, a good example would be the Final Horizon for Sonic Frontiers, it doesn’t fix the issues of the main story’s writing, it attempts to recontextualize many of the elements present in the game, while also adding in some new things. But the problem was that the game itself was written with the ending that it was shipped with in mind. So the new ending lacks a lot of context, and while it may be more grandiose and expressive, it lacked the emotional investment and character beats which were set up through the game, and had their pay offs at the very end. This just shows a level of writing inexperience that will likely bleed over into GG!Underfell as a whole, not like it was the best written thing out there to begin with to be fair, but still. I already had issue with the way the chapter was written, all this did was show off the writing flaws in an easily digestible bite. One which could be broken down and understood if chosen. Maybe once all the sections are out and the story has reached its conclusion I might go back and break down the problems with the writing. That could be fun, it’s a lot easier than breaking down some games or movies I’ve been trying to, this is a lot simpler. Don’t get me wrong, sections 1 & 2 had their problems, but it was easy to mask since they were properly established games with their own stories, not to mention both of those sections didn’t have to worry about setting up the setting, it’s characters, and especially the tall task of trying to give a voiceless character a voice. Giving Kris the ability to talk and actual agency on their part is going to fundamentally break a lot of the future sections, I can’t wait to see how the team intends on writing themselves out of this corner. I mean there was a reason beyond just story that Toby gave Kris a character without agency, one where they can’t act without your input, and when they do it’s never to such a degree where it completely takes you out of the experience. Hell we don’t even know if Kris actually knows about us, we just know that they don’t like how their SOUL doesn’t always do what they would like it to. It’s easy to confuse accepted canon, and actual canon sometimes. But a lot of things we as a community have just accepted, aren’t explicitly stated, while that’s nice for personal interpretation and it gives Toby some leeway in the future, it doesn’t really make discussions any easier.
@@enigmaticencounterlol3277Crossbones isn’t Sans though, the comics make it very clear that the long held fan theory of them being the same person is in all reality false. Sans and Crossbones were in the same room together, they can’t be the same person, though suspiciously Papyrus didn’t appear in that issue… maybe he was too busy that day.
@@enigmaticencounterlol3277Also don’t forget we’re getting a TS!Underswap Section in DeltaTraveler later down the line, so let’s hope they write those characters properly.
I don’t have any experience with writing either so I don’t know if I have the grounds to say this, but wouldn’t it be better to provide feedback/analyze the problems now rather than later? Seems very negative of you to wait for the team to make what you consider as mistakes to finally explain what’s “wrong” with the writing…
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this actually fits how the pacifist route works in underfell, you make them snap out of it
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we could say you make them "Fall" out of it?
@@Ignacio-Moonsilverdid you say “fall out”
@@Ignacio-Moonsilverhow was the fall..........
@SansTheSkeletonpapyrus How are your balls?
This ending makes me think about the genocide route a bit more. Instead of sans pushing Susie over the edge with the whole "as if she has a family who would care if she's dead" and overall being a psycho, it makes me feel like he wanted to be killed. By the monster who he almost killed in his world, no less. Maybe he has some sort of guilty conscience from almost killing the orphan Susie, and if he already knew he was going to die in the genocide route, he would want to die by Susie's hands of all people. I'm honestly glad they gave GG!Underfell sans more depth then just being a power hungry maniac.
What do you mean die by susie's hands? Noelle freezes him at the end
@@nothinginteresting971There's 2 routes
1. You beat sans normally and susie finishes him off
2. When sans is on critical hp use iceshock and he will freeze
I guess it wasn’t the most cathartic kill he’s done,,,
At best the most cathartic act of violence he did.
at least he remember that susie's orphan,,,,,,,
susie, i rememberings of your, *orphan*
bro went to careless evil manic who hunt for orphan , to just emo sans who vents at random children
Tbf they asked several times after he said no.
^ listen to this homie right here
Look at how they massacred my boy
Technoblade vibe
i mean he didnt do it on its own will for the said child asked him insistently
ok so i have some things to say about this new ending
i do like how this ties into one of undertale's themes, being everyone can be saved. (something like that) i also like that this gives us more backstory on G!Fell sans as a character. the interaction between sans and papryus is great to see. this also ties into the fact that GG!Fell is just an alternate timeline to undertale.
however
i dont like how they went about the backstory. personally i would've made it to where he actually killed susie. it also felt like it just kinda came out of nowhere? fell literally just goes "you wanna know why?" to "oh my god what have i done?" i also personally would've liked if they stuck with the "you cant save everyone" theme they were going for.
this is also not my game, but i just wanted to get some of my thoughts down
i dont mind the susie thing as i think it fits in the way of he kinda WANTED to push himself further down but he couldnt completely do it
i absolutely do agree that the "you can't save everyone" motif should've been kept. for deltatraveler, at least. i would've made it so that sparing the final bosses of each chapter would give you a bad "foolish pacifist" ending. pacifist routes are insanely overrated in the ut/dr community, as are genocide routes. various types of neutral don't get enough attention.
@@helio3928You can still do that, there are other, significantly better candidates for that message.
porky in particular comes to mind as sparing him leads to the events of mother 3 and the atrocities that he committed during that game.
this is a good take on the information we got, you have upsides and downsides and personally it makes it all the more better that it is being chosen, GG!Underfell sans in my eyes, isn't a shitty thing even after this new pacifist ending. it makes sense, besides Sans says no before he begins to open up, showing that stubbornness and while i do agree how the change is a little confusing it just makes it feel that much more...yk unique, it's following what Undertale's message is "that everyone can be saved" and while it does make a bit more sense for that theme of "you cant save everyone" to stick i feel as if it can slide for this, it's a link between Undertale. and GG!Underfell
reset what are YOU doing here
That sans has 4 ways to be defeated
FOR GENOCIDE :)
1. Fight him
2. Ice shock him
For pacifist...
1. Sleepmist him
2. Talk to him until he gives up (NEW)
Obliteration has special dialogue when you spare fell sans
@@dylanzlol7293Thats the cutscene that was missing in the previous versions said it by one of the devs. So we have one for sparing him in Obliteration, and a 2nd variation of this cutscene if you make Susie Devious beforehand.
So in total this fight has 7 outcomes in total.
@@xxnoobmaster00xx67talk ending is here and it was added in the same update as obliteration spare
The orphan killer reveals that he's not an orphan killer?!
Guess we need to rename him to the Child Crippler
Not a monster orphan killer at least.
@@JacksonVoetNot in this Timeline.
In some ways, it kinda reminds me of how in official Undertale that trying to kill Monster Kid is a major turning point for a No Mercy run.
Child crippler!?
Why and how does that sound worse?
I'd both actually have him kill the orphan, and then have susie intercede to talk a bit of crap about it, catching a glint of the real sans inside.
"Cathartic? Then why did you look away unlike all of this crap you been doing. I don't buy it for a damn second."
And then, Sans starts to talk more on it, explaining it...
Shifting to a more broken demeanor, realizing he *isn't as proud as he thought he was about his kill count* and then he eventually just completely breaks down, resulting in the rest of the dialogue that provides the explanation wanted.
Yeah honestly much better. It should be an instant snap back to his real self, realizing what he did, like for toriel. This makes him pathetic
@@theterron7857 plus him not killing the orphan after all feels just as dumb as yakuza 4's rubber bullets.
@@Manavine agreed. Like wtf is this a fairy tale?
This is so much better than going to sleep.
And make only Papyrus better........
Got that right lol
that is overrated.
IKRRR- it ain't perfect but it's so much better
Anyways, atleast he has A reason for killing everyone rather than just being some metal 2016 sans oc
#relatable
This mean gg!underfell pacifist is going to be something else about changing the main boss to see forgiveness and to be good, which mean this might be leak to the main game
Series because ggunderfell never was a game
@@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс it will be soon.
@@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс maybe it will one day
I guess
This is a big thing, because him having snapped out of it may be key to Frisk’s survival through the rest of the game.
Heh. I knew it. As long as Sans still has Papyrus in his life, there's still hope for him.
for susie was easy to say that they dont deserve forgiveness, but its easy to talk when you did not experience the same problem they had to suffer
It doesnt really justify fell!sans's actions, through
man but that does not mean u have the right to take the life of another person , let alone plan in front of another person on how to kill them and how much joy they got by *killing* an orphan. Man by this logic a lot of schoolshooters would be free and have the chance to do it again , Some people just don t deserve forgiveness ,no matter how much harm they had suffered in their lifes , because that pain is temporary and can be overcome , killing someone is a permanent fate that you sign it with blood. i mean by what we know about susie she has a problematic childhood , *abusive* parents , kinda new in town , and no friends , but she didn t become a killer , she made friends with kris and turned the leaf
Dude this guy was happy about killing an infant, he’s evil, i don’t care what shit forgiveness thing undertale fans like, he’s like the geno route player, sparing one monster in hotland after killing everyone else does NOT justify the player actions
@@ArceTheTroll sometimes i feel like ut fans cant handle the presence of an actual unredeemable character or at least one that doesnt actually deserve mercy, they made fell!sans do a 180 on his personality simply to make him seem good enough to make people want to spare him.
@@ArceTheTrollis that even his fault that asgore made a whole underground to be so cruel and merciless? I think not
Gg!toriel also does a 360 after sparing her
The thing is, both her in the main series and sans here are being forced to stop and think, and then realize what they're doing
My guess is that, monster souls here are still made of kindness and love, and that's why, despite everything, they can change for the better
The correct phrase is doing a 180
I mean, the corruption of the Underground was explicitly caused by the player installing an “Evil Mode”.
@@spidey5558 not in my country, but I see the logic
They made it so instead of one thing setting him off making him a maniac to someone who you can forgive without thinking about should or shouldn't you kill him. Pretty interesting
This feels more like a retcon as a reaction to people hating GG!sans more than anything, but I guess it makes him more interesting. This'll surely change people's opinion about him.
Though I did prefer the maniac murderer who turned to killing people purely because of extreme nihilism. Like how OG Sans turned to jokes and lazinesss because of nihilism.
@@Thorumsu I didn't include it but I think it's also was made so the people who said that 'sans is too *EDGY* ' or ' he wouldn't hurt papyrus ' would stop whining about it. I mean I can definitely see the appeal in this sans and I still think eepy ending is better but this kinda adds on the character and makes him closer too undertale self instead of usual under fell universe
Literally. "Underfell is edgy?? What a surprise" @@Huge_M
well usually it's a build up of things until the one thing comes and makes him a maniac and here we are getting exposition of that build up instead of him say "Oh no I became bad because of specifically THIS EVENT"
Unfortunate for him: In my playthrough I'm going with a Neutral route where I kill the Section's main boss. Mostly so I have some extra health to work with while playing the game and to see what sort of ending, or endings, you get from doing a Neutral run.
while i did like the character that we fought on previous patches, it was hard to call him "sans" with how entirely disconnected he was from the actual sans's personality. this was a good change if the creator wanted to make this au more believable in the actual undertale universe. that being said, based on how he openly threatens frisk during the pacifist, i can't say him not having the will to kill a child was the change that made him more believable, rather him being open minded enough for you to spare him.
Eh, tbh, I'd have liked if they saved a moment like this for the actual GG!UF rather than DeltaTraveler, I liked the idea of this Sans not being fully spared by the fun gang due to them being passed by the AU more than anything while leaving the actual sparing part to the Frisk of this AU
That does make sense, but the child he was about to kill was a fellow monster child. The reason why sans openly threatened frisk is because of their correlation to the freedom of the underground. and even if frisk seems to be a good person in the pacifist route, sans himself (and some other monsters) does talk about how resentful monsterkind feels towards humankind, the ones that trapped them in the underground.
@@perrykv7312I was thinking GGFell was going to be left in an awkward spot by Deltatraveller already surpassing where the story was left off, and this update just compounds that issue to me. I do wonder what they plan to do from here.
Well you have some good reasoning but the sans that is shown is based of a different au, the term au stands for alternate universe with Undertale some aus include Underswap story shift last breath and the list goes on and on but back to why sans was like that the video shows Underfell sans in which Underfell is an au I hope this helps you understand a bit more clearly 😊
Honestly I kind of get the impression that GG underfill is going to get rebooted. It seems like the creator still has interest in underfill but has learned a lot over the years and wants to start fresh. I could be mistaken but my guess would be this is kind of the end of the road for this version of the AU
2:09 the Guy that discovered this: Finally, finally I can die in piece...
1:12 Human, I think you're *nuts*
Human,i remember You're nuts
Suzie was the most cathartic kill Fell!Sans has done... Until it wasn't
And finally he can be turned good, in true Underfell fashion, better than put him to sleep and move on.
And while I do think that unredeeable villains with 0 explanations on why they do what they do is metal, not even Underfell is the best place for those types
I think this honestly fits more. I can see Sans losing himself and going off the deep end, taking a much more violent past of Nihlism. But in the end, I can't see him TRULY liking it. This feels a lot more believable to me.
"You think ill let them go after what theyve done to me Papyrus?"
We will just ignore the beef between sans and kris i guess.
I think he realized it was a different Kris.
@@JacksonVoet even if thats the case, wth kris did to sans? At least they could explain
@@BeTalf Well, Sans has always been one to keep secrets. A version of the Delta Warriors did something to him, and it was the catalyst for his spiral into madness.
@@BeTalfI guess he is from fell deltarune and the fell Delta Warriors abandoned him or something
Technically he never apologised or even showed any sign that he doesn't hate Kris still. My headcanon is that he still hates the Delta Warriors, but was too overcome by guilt to acknowledge them at that moment.
Honestly I think it just needs to have a longer transition so it isnt just something that comes out of nowhere
Ok I really like the new ending, Sans's depression and hopelessness being amplified but the horrible world of Underfell, being extended from just apathy to a suicidal idealation in destroying the entire world is really heartbreaking.
this. I love this. there's no objective right answer. an actual dilemma.
I agree. I really agree.
actually there is in this one, before there was none.
Idc what they say, this ending is way better
The only thing i hated abt gg!sans is that he had ZERO reason for what he did. Now he does. Even if it wasnt fully justified.
He doesnt feel like a genocidal "cool" sans oc that has meaningless bloodlust
It isnt perfect but its SO much better
Blood for blood. BLOODSHED FOR BLOODSHED!
YAY!
sukuna and mahito like villains are underrated concept tho thats why old gg!fell was cool
Honestly, what I am more surprised about is that people seem to miss the subtext.
Entirely within this ending, we get explicit confirmation that Sans had met a "Susie", and said Susie (which contextually is implied to have been with a Kris and a Noelle) did something to him big enough to make him want to take vengeance for it. That never happened in the end tho, because against Suzy he understood that she wasn't anywhere near the same Susie that did something to him, and against deltatraveler Susie he was forced to think about the entire situation while resting. THAT is what made him snap out.
(Fyi, from what I can gather past the context of the ending, deltatraveler considers the vanilla and gg!fell Sans' to come from a destroyed Deltarune world, ence why the fact that this Sans is MORE violent against the party)
Bloodlust? You mean that extreme demon from the hit game "Geometry dash" made by Robert Topala????
Eh, tbh, this one kinda feels like a Dust Sans without the "Frisk, I remember you're genocides" part, it feels somewhat underwhelming, I'm not against the idea of this Sans not having a spare ending, but I feel like, if anything, it should've been saved for GG!Underfell rather than DeltaTraveler
Yeah, I'm not feeling this. It's simply such an obvious "noooo forgive sans--look, he didn't actually kill an orphan, he's forgiveable !1!1!" on the part of the creator, and it just feels cheap.
Like someone else said in the comment section, I would've had *Susie* talk with him, hash it out (with him truly having killed her UF self) and then break him down in some way. That would've been a way to tie the Underfell experience into a neat little bow.
Bro has done a complete 360
he should've been kept as the orphan annihilator 3000 in my opinion with tweaks for the geno routes
I'm disappointed too...
(Also, it's 180-)
True xD, bro went from (like you said) the embodiment of evil to funny emo antihero sans
Are u going to make a video about this?
GG!underfell Sans: the Embodiment Of Evil
a 360 would mean that he turns around (becomes good) and then completely reverse that and bwcomes evil again
Do you think even the worst person can change? That everyone can be a good person, if they just try?
Everyone can change, but that doesn't mean everyone _will._
@@spidey5558Not exactly. Some *dont have this option*
I say yes... but I also understand that there are some so rooted in their ways that they refuse to change or even have the self-awareness to acknowledge that there's something wrong with them. To become a better person, you have to be capable looking at yourself and admitting that you have a problem, or problems, and need to have the strength to either make those changes or to seek out help.
Really? No one got the reference?
@@theterron7857 It's what Sans said during the genocide run, right? Before he says, "Do you wanna have a bad time?"
Sans: ive made a severe and continuous lapse of my judgement, and I don't expect to be forgiven, im just here to apologize.
For everyone saying its out of character for GG!Fell Sans to even do any of this, this actually fits with how Pacifist works in Underfell.
You make them snap out of it. You make them better people.
I wouldn't be surprised if this were to happen in the actual animation series when it eventually continues, because this feels like something that would actually happen in it.
It feels shoehorned in, sure, but I don't think its THAT out of character, even if it is a little.
I also think people should remember that this used to be normal Undertale Sans, he can likely be redeemed if that's the case.
I love how this explains better sans' motive and character other than just doing this for fun. It conveys so much more emotions, so many more thoughts for us to reconsider what he truly is while also makes us feel sastified that we've just helped someone to turn on a new leaf. I love their directions here and I'm more than excited to see whats to come in the next updates!
she still has part of her younger self
huh
@@doodlespiral7110 watch 10 years of gg
he has lost orphan detecting privileges
With this simple change, GG fells sans is now way much better now he doesn't feel like the overly edgy sans with the "I KILLEF ORPHAN!!!" thing anymore. Fr that dialogue was very awkward to take serious, and funny enough it feel like sans was lying to make he feel more threatening
I, Sans Underfell love orphans
This is such a better ending than just sleep misting. I'm honestly willing to delete my save and go through the game again just for this ending.
This makes his genocide quote more understandable though.
9:47 yoo starlo dialogue
So fell Sans DOES have a heart!
I hate all the edgy kris stuff in section 3, but this, this is amazing
im gonna be honest i kinda wanna see a alternate route where GGFell sans gets kris's soul and we see what happens then
of course it's her soul
He surly would become our puppet by doing that and like that we either will redeem him for his actions or will make him a more monster than he already is
Im too lazy to type another 5 paragraph essay so im gonna settle with... WHO THE HELL IS HER?
And him like who?? Oh you guys mean THEY ok
@@PikachuGaming1612chill it isnt all that serious
I like how susie is looking away
I really do not enjoy what this new ending does to Fell retroactively. For me at least, the entire point of the character was his entirely unredeemable personality and actions. He was designed to be a completely and utterly deranged person.
That being said he wasn't well written even if i did enjoy it. One thing i like about this ending is giving him a motivation beyond "I'm evil lol" and "yall did something I'll never be specific about, die."
The idea he just got so sick of everyone he knew, including himself, suffering everyday he snapped and wanted to end everything and everyone Is a really good idea at a base level.
It parallels og Sans' nihilism. It's a reasonable explanation as to why he started killing and went down the slippery slope and it gives a legitimate reason why he wants a soul beyond being power hungry.
It also parallels og Sans' laziness with fell actively persuing his goal near constantly throughout the chapter and losing most of his other "Sans" traits like the constant puns, role as judge and love toward his brother.
Then they follow up that reveal with a breakdown which i absolutely hate.
The whole concept of LOVE and EXP is that it dulls your abilty to feel sympathy and makes it easier for you to hurt others. Something Fell Sans shows A LOT during his screentime prior to his fight.
He murders indiscriminately and fairly frequently according to Papyrus, almost kills Papyrus (if you choose to walk past his letter bomb), knocks him off a huge cliff, and went out of his way to attempt to murder an orphan just because he thought they were a younger version of someone he hated.
He absolutely has more wherewithal to endure some proding into his actions and revealing the fact he didn't actually kill Suzy if he was fine potentially killing his brother twice.
On that point, while i kinda like the fact he didn't have the killer instinct to murder a child, at the same time he absolutely should have. This Sans is completely insane in 95% of his screentime and develops a conscience when its convient to the plot. At least that's how i feel about it.
He isn't my character, and i have no say in how he was objectively supposed to be written or turn out, but it feels like such a u-turn.
Not every villain needs to have a sympathetic motivation or a emotional breakdown or hesitate to do heinous actions.
Again, i do like how the basis of his downward spiral was a "noble" goal of ending everyone's suffering but everything else here is so fuckin sloppy imo.
Tl:dr: He shoulda stayed irredeemable but i like the new motivation.
I feel like this is a little bit too fast of a redemption
Agree, I feel like you should talk more, maybe having Susie and Noelle talk as well, but I get why ut was this way, as GG underfell was because of a glitch, and when it was removed and Sans turned back to white, his senses came back aswell
I had a feeling he didn't actually kill an orphan
I wonder if this is an option in obliteration.
And if the dialogue is any different, especially if you spare Jerry
Damn I really like this ending, probably my favourite. In the regular pacifist spare ending I like how Papyrus gives up his dreams of being a royal guard and abandons the battle body, but Sans is still in that pyschotic mindset and would still want to kill everyone, plus he's RIGHT BY THE DOOR, so he could try and kill those in other worlds cause he only sees the negative side of everything. This new one gives a better ending and fits the pacifist route more.
I mean i would expect some kind of this ending at first time when i saw deltaraveler. And it's maybe make em have other personality besides heartless maniac and stuff- (I'm kinda accept this aighty)
But lemme jus' say.
*We are not killing orphans with this one* 💀
Guess now we know how he’ll be back to normal in the canon GG!underfell
When I saw "Delta" and "3" in the title, my heart almost stopped >_
Honestly, honestly, I kinda don’t like this. It’s not bad or anything. I just kinda like the idea of him being a messed up villain
I just realize sans and pap crack is just gaster crack seperate to each other two-
Mystery man crack*
We don't know how gaster looks
@@arrakokosit*sniffing intensifies*
@@arrakokosit. crack. what the fuck?
gotta be honest chief. this sucks
i don't like how contrived it feels after going through the rest of the route
it doesn't feel earned, it just feels like it comes out of nowhere. i know most people don't like dark shit and want for there to be happier endings but this ain't it; him suddenly changing his mind? "snapping out of it"? this doesn't happen like the way it's portrayed here, you don't instantly see the error in your ways (especially if you have shit tons of LOVE) and decide "welp, guess i was stupid".
i liked the fact the previous ending was unsatisfying, because it made sense and left us with an understanding that there really wasn't anything else we could have done. now it's just cheap
I love the little detail that if your HP is low, the text in textbox will be shaking in battle, and only in pacifist
This definenitely was a VERY controversial update
I don't know how to feel about this.
I hope they changed stuff before the fight or else this will come across as forced.
They did change a bit of the pre-fight dialogue
Some dialogue was changed
This honestly just goes against everything that was in the other route. This isn't how you write a sympathetic villain character
I would make you have to talk more with him, but I get what happened, as in the gg universe monsters were corrupted by a bug and became evil, only turning back to normal after snapping back.
And while I feel like the after Sans is alright with this backstory, I feel like he snapped out of it too fast
I feel like this would be a good bonus for sparing every enemy in section 3 on top of the usual egg reward.
This boss was stupid hard. So him just going to sleep was an awful choice. This is mych better.
Actually he ain't that hard
i find it really interesting how this outcome displays the corrupting nature of a fell underground
Yeah, people forget that 70% that's happening is because of a computer bug, and when It's removed and they turn back to normal/white, they're like "what the hell was I doing"
* do you think even the worst person could change... if they just try?
Remember guys, villains aren’t born evil
I Hope they add help_tale because byfar amalgamates don't get used much in fan creations
I don't think that is very likely since helptale is kinda obscure compared to other Alternate Universes
@@Jupiter12th Well Best things i can see them do that's a unique AU is UTY, Undertale 2, and Swaptale
@@GROAT72We already know all of the future sections, Section 4 is A Link to the Past, Section 5 is TS!Underswap, Section 6 is Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story, Section 7 is Toontown, and Section 8 is Lostcore/Gaster.
@@zekromfan1how?
@@ThangCommentDao Search for it.
I think it was like in a underevent? Or something.
Edit: Search for Underevent 2022 Deltatraveler.
That's the video.
This almost made me cry
Even after everything, papyrus is still out precious cinnamon roll
Lore of DELTATRAVELER v3.0.6 - New Pacifist Ending. Momentum 100
You know whats bad? None of this is canon to the official gg!underfell
this game is undertale 3 (deltarune is 2)
Bro sounded like geno sans with that ending the timeline stuff
See this after kill sans 5 times in a row only using the touch screen is wild
Unrealist ahh redemption 😭🙏
3:54 This is a distorted mentality, sans. If you want to change the world, you shouldn't destroy it. It will disappear, it won't suffer anyway, you will suffer more because you took away other people's wishes. If you choose to change it instead of doing that, then everyone will not suffer. *because burning or destroying a world does not make that world any better than ending it anyway.*
omg its chara tr hiiiiiiiiii
omg hi chara tr do you still hate ufs?
@@look_its_kris 313.324.645.32
@@Kelhimself yes
@@look_its_kris Hi
Well it is too bad that they mentioned Undyne because considering how insane the royal guard requirements must be I don't think Undyne will let Papyrus leave alive. But maybe I am wrong...I hope
I mean, Undyne is emotional, passionate, and breaks most rules. She may attack him, but I doubt she will.
Considering that the og GG underfell would probably have Undyne as the third boss and Sans as one of the last in the final corridor, I would say that Undyne still has more sanity than Sans
And even if she tryed to attack, I feel like Sans and Papyrus together could win, the only problem would be if she like, got Alphys to call mettaton or Asgore or something, but I honestly feel like they wouldn't care
Thank GOODNESS his MALICIOUS stature finally wore off.
Idk man. This was kinda poorly written, not everyone should be redeeemed.
Why'd they gotta make it so sad?
(I almost cried)
Now I can only imagine what this Sans would do in the Pacifist ending where you put him to sleep, if you can still do that.
You can still make him sleep.
He would probably be the same as ever, maybe more angry that the trio escaped
So this version of underfell is more like a timeline than a universe
Fellunder
2:23 Me On the second selection of deltatraveler in the final boss fight
Wait that's real?! I thought it's well made fanmade one
Poorly executed qnd added late, but if people don't mind him going back on his word, then all is cool I guess. An Ending always does wonders to a cutscene
Personally i liked the old one more, just kinda did, liking this one is valid too though
Bro was a Evil Psychopathic Orphan Killer to a Broken Edgy Sans
Idk how to feel about the change
He still killed a lot of people, we just used the power of ACT to cure his malicious status effect.
I know how to feel about it, this change sucks, straight up ruined a real menace and the best take on fell sans
Sarah fr went lets turn this cool character to canon fell reskin with worse writing@@JazzYolo111
We have to remember that in the GG underfell series, all the shit that happened was because of a virus, and when we make them turn back to normal(not hostile/red) is when they can actually think
Idk, I think I still prefer the sleep ending. This feels a little too fanfiction for my tastes, but thats what Undertale is about. Choices.
U missed the part after this if u talk to sans he mentions how u dealt with his evil counterpart
I don’t think they should have added this honestly
Twitter and Fandom ruins everything
They do
10:15 is it just me, or does it look like sans is genuine with his smile?
I just wish that section 4 is a pokemon wolrd in kanto, so i can beat the hell of pokemon with my weapon on my own !!!! 🙂
I actually just guenuenly hate this ending, this contradicts sans's ENTIRE personality and his motives makes no sense, hes an addict and a coward, but nope. He just vents you all the issues he has as if its some kind of therapy session. I really wouldive like to see how pacifism sometimes does more harm than good, but its the same as always with the lesson of "no kill = good". A perfect way that this couldive ended is that he no longer cares about papyrus now and he runs away, signifying that hes and has been unsavable by the time you went to the AU, but i guess not. I hope the official GG fell animations dont do what deltatraveler did.
I love this ending, but I really hope this isn't a true pacifist requirement. (I already have a pacifist save)
I generally love how Deltatraveler is handled.
But this is cringe, to be honest.
finally, an ending where sans' face ain't yeeted.
next thing I know, they will do dusttale in deltatraveller as a ending for the genocide route.
edit 1 : okay the ending is worse, sans will probably suicided after this.
edit 2 : holy shit sans is gonna become gohan.
edit 3 : DUSTTALE - CHAPTER 7 (GENOCIDE EXCLUSIVE, COOL UNBALANCED BATTLE WHERE SANS TRAPS YOU ALL OVER THE PLACE)
4:21 MY WAY!!!!
Why does Sans hates Susie and gang again? i don't remember
This is heavily implied to be a post-Snowgrave Sans.
@@TheFawfulExpressMustardO-cx6mw there was a snowgrave in undefell?
I think deltatraveler follows the "Sans is from deltarune" theory, as in normal snowdin we can go to Sans basement and find a photo album with Sans and hometown.
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Gg Sans probably faced a weird route, considering that he said how ironic it was that we killed him with ice shock
And again it happens, I really dislike this change in a matter of writing. It feels like an foul attempt to make Sans to be likeable enough to be considered redeemable. And the fact that Sans isn't just a remorseless killer isn't a problem by itself, the problem lies precisely in presenting this "change of heart" too abruptly. It's almost like if Ganondorf in the end of ocarina of time just started talking about how badly he regrets everything he's done. The story just doesn't give us any hints towards ambiguity of his persona (and it's too short to do so). The game also unlays on you a whole veil of text that's just considered to be a bad taste in writing. OG scene wasn't actually good, but at the least, it didn't resolve the whole conflint in matter of one painfully long and out-of-pocket scene.
Based ig
And as the worst thing: he is not an orphan-killer(
Kartul leem ja liha😊
What did they do to my boy? 😭
This is just exacerbating the problems with the writing. Now this ending went from pointlessly edgy, to melodramatic without any build up. It’s one thing to completely re-write the chapter and all of the context surrounding Sans and the final encounter, it’s another to just tack this on at the end.
It’s the same problem a lot of games have with DLC stories, a good example would be the Final Horizon for Sonic Frontiers, it doesn’t fix the issues of the main story’s writing, it attempts to recontextualize many of the elements present in the game, while also adding in some new things. But the problem was that the game itself was written with the ending that it was shipped with in mind. So the new ending lacks a lot of context, and while it may be more grandiose and expressive, it lacked the emotional investment and character beats which were set up through the game, and had their pay offs at the very end.
This just shows a level of writing inexperience that will likely bleed over into GG!Underfell as a whole, not like it was the best written thing out there to begin with to be fair, but still. I already had issue with the way the chapter was written, all this did was show off the writing flaws in an easily digestible bite. One which could be broken down and understood if chosen.
Maybe once all the sections are out and the story has reached its conclusion I might go back and break down the problems with the writing. That could be fun, it’s a lot easier than breaking down some games or movies I’ve been trying to, this is a lot simpler.
Don’t get me wrong, sections 1 & 2 had their problems, but it was easy to mask since they were properly established games with their own stories, not to mention both of those sections didn’t have to worry about setting up the setting, it’s characters, and especially the tall task of trying to give a voiceless character a voice. Giving Kris the ability to talk and actual agency on their part is going to fundamentally break a lot of the future sections, I can’t wait to see how the team intends on writing themselves out of this corner. I mean there was a reason beyond just story that Toby gave Kris a character without agency, one where they can’t act without your input, and when they do it’s never to such a degree where it completely takes you out of the experience. Hell we don’t even know if Kris actually knows about us, we just know that they don’t like how their SOUL doesn’t always do what they would like it to. It’s easy to confuse accepted canon, and actual canon sometimes. But a lot of things we as a community have just accepted, aren’t explicitly stated, while that’s nice for personal interpretation and it gives Toby some leeway in the future, it doesn’t really make discussions any easier.
Crossbones is superior over any alternate Sans tbh, I’d say that even ULB Sans has better writing than this guy lol.
@@enigmaticencounterlol3277Crossbones isn’t Sans though, the comics make it very clear that the long held fan theory of them being the same person is in all reality false. Sans and Crossbones were in the same room together, they can’t be the same person, though suspiciously Papyrus didn’t appear in that issue… maybe he was too busy that day.
@@enigmaticencounterlol3277Also don’t forget we’re getting a TS!Underswap Section in DeltaTraveler later down the line, so let’s hope they write those characters properly.
@@zekromfan1 that one Underfell Asgore animation from 2016 is better than GG! Underfell Sans.
I don’t have any experience with writing either so I don’t know if I have the grounds to say this, but wouldn’t it be better to provide feedback/analyze the problems now rather than later? Seems very negative of you to wait for the team to make what you consider as mistakes to finally explain what’s “wrong” with the writing…
"""Oh no""", seems like I gotta replay the game once again!! ://, who could've seen this coming???
What a nice and bittersweet ending to the pacifist route of underfell
This is the best ending by far