Note there are other variations of setups you can do, but I wanted to keep it as a reasonably quick guide and there's just countless variations I've seen. You can for instance drop the potion on the other side of baba during the post-boulders setup, so you don't need to shift click to click on the potion. There's also a method where you drop a potion on both sides of baba within melee distance, and you walk all the way from 1 side to the other each time, no setup required. I figured I'd mention this quickly here. Also for boulders, if you don't bring bofa, and your bp can't 1-shot it because it's a level 2 or 4 boulder, consider accurate bp hits, or range potion/salt, or even a bp spec (the heal from the max hit is nice anyways incase you lost any hp from mistakes).
This is such a good video for teaching the method without having to dig through pvm discords for 3+ hours. Good vid man, subbed, gl on raids and the algorithm
Hey Kirby, great video! I like the method you showed post-boulders and it's definitely easier than mine to execute. I made mine with the intent to click once per tick to not lose track of time/be more consistent for me than the original TM19 post-boulders example.
Please continue to make more videos like these! I agree with the other comment about having to hunt thru discords for new techs being annoying, so vids like this make it much easier :)
I setup my runelite and in game settings like in the video but my shift click clicks through baba and the potion. What am i missing? edit: nevermind figured it out, you have to uncheck shift click walk here on ground items.
Hi Kirby, just getting to trying to learn this & running into the issue that sometimes the boulder is falling on either the tile one or two under baba, should this be happening & how to avoid it without messing up the setup (yes this is when scuffed, i find the P1 setup really hard but can do P2 & P3 relitively flawlessly) Cheers, i appreciate the guide Edit: Realised i can just wait a tick given the time you have either side of him attacking before it fails
I’ve been trying to get my 425 clear with iron gear. I usually have level 5 baba and sometimes the rng just eats all of my supplies. Thanks for sharing this, I was trying to figure it out myself but gave up and started gambling on if baba would troll me instead
Baba moves when I try to set this up. Why? I wish guides like this spent a lot more time detailing how to get back into the cycle and what it looks like. Also why drop the potion to set it up, why not just tank a single hit. Seems needlessly complicated
Heey, could you explain why this is not bug abuse? Cause i'm fairly certain that it is. Isn't it the same as red xing the nex door and didn't they fix that shortly after release? I'm pretty sure this is not intended gameplay and will get patched soon.
@@__RS__ I can see your point yeah, you're saying its basically the same as putting a cannon base in the bandos room to click on it right? Well I don't disagree with that, the difference however from my perspective is that red xing a portal a door or whatever that is not inside the room you're trying to clear is a bug for example the nex door where you prepot could be clicked as there is no reason you should be able to click that door or the red portal in this case because you can't use it when inside the room or i should say you should not be able to use it inside the room if it doesn't 'work' anyways when inside the room. The cannon base planting in gwd is a different story in my eyes because the cannon is placed inside the bandos room for example and not on the outside of the room.
@@kennosrs1369 in that case your are fine with 2/3rds of this method which involves placing a sara brew. They could 'patch' the teleport crystal method and people would just drop another Sara brew on the ground and it would be the same.
@@MizukiTHPS That is true, I don't see a problem with dropping something inside of the room, however I can't confirm nor deny a sara brew would work as I haven't tested any of this myself. Let me be clear on this and that is that I don't know how Jagex feels about this and the reason why I am asking is that I want more information if this is allowed or not before I risk my accounts to a possible ban or something like that and not because I want to throw shade on the method itself.
It's funny how I predicted the Patch 2 weeks ago by my earlier posts and definitly is classified as a bug in the game code said by Mod Kieren in his patch notes post.
Great guide, unfortunately I don't play enough to want to learn it. 3 months later, do you think they'll eventually update Ba-Ba to remove this stupid cheese?
@@ordelipyorinen8235 it's not about high skill, amateur skill, or whatever tf shit you're jerking yourself off about. The fact that the boss is designed so poorly that the red x method is 100% required to do Ba-Ba at high invocations is the problem. Red x at Bandos or Zammy or whatever the fuck isn't something you're *forced* to do just to survive, it just greatly enhances your survivability there. At Ba-Ba, you need to red x, or you will not survive, because it was designed to be so heavily RNG-dependent. Is doing the red x a high skill and impressive even though it's a bug? Yes. Is it good game design? No, it's lazy.
@@thenurz119 but it's too easy...why would u need to cheese unavoidable damage if it was too easy? unless..you're suggesting gagex make the game easier by nerfing baba? make up your damn mind folks.
Probably not relevant anymore for you, but recommend turning off death limits and just fighting baba on repeat until you get comfortable. Die before killing him, and run it again without doing puzzle.
Not at all, take off the limited death invocations, crank it up to 500, clear the monkey room once and grind it to your hearts content. that's what I'm doing tonight. boy, I must have died over 100 times at baba tonight... But I finally got it, and damageless baba is mine. No using super restores for me!
@@dozenuts note baba is not hard. Learn red x without death invos and use flowers if you'd like to practice longer (although getting him in cycle after boulders is arguably the harder part flowers won't help with.) My problem when writing this comment was clearing baba then dying to akkha shadow dps checks and having no motivation to repeat monkey room cause it's so boring.
It’s not bug abuse, red x is intentional to prevent monsters from permanently walking in circles around you when you target each other. You also don’t need to use this method for a 500, but if you’re not willing to learn a difficult strat to make your runs more consistent then there’s probably other things you’ll have a harder time with going for your orn kit.
Agreed, but baba is balanced around this method existing. A lvl 6 baba at raid level 500 can hit 28 through melee pray, and has like 30% accuracy against you. You only have Keri’s to heal, so unless baba noodles, you’ll get chipped down faster than keris recharges
Note there are other variations of setups you can do, but I wanted to keep it as a reasonably quick guide and there's just countless variations I've seen. You can for instance drop the potion on the other side of baba during the post-boulders setup, so you don't need to shift click to click on the potion. There's also a method where you drop a potion on both sides of baba within melee distance, and you walk all the way from 1 side to the other each time, no setup required. I figured I'd mention this quickly here.
Also for boulders, if you don't bring bofa, and your bp can't 1-shot it because it's a level 2 or 4 boulder, consider accurate bp hits, or range potion/salt, or even a bp spec (the heal from the max hit is nice anyways incase you lost any hp from mistakes).
This is such a good video for teaching the method without having to dig through pvm discords for 3+ hours. Good vid man, subbed, gl on raids and the algorithm
you should check out his channel, he's so much more haha he's responsible for every Zuk helm in the game
Hey Kirby, great video! I like the method you showed post-boulders and it's definitely easier than mine to execute. I made mine with the intent to click once per tick to not lose track of time/be more consistent for me than the original TM19 post-boulders example.
Thanks! And yea your method was nice in that way, and looked cool so I'd figure I'd show it even if I did change it up a little bit.
I thought Baba was easy and chill at 280 raid level, then I put on pathfinder and suddenly I went from using 1 brew to all my brews
ye the dmg through prayer is no fun ag all
Please continue to make more videos like these! I agree with the other comment about having to hunt thru discords for new techs being annoying, so vids like this make it much easier :)
I setup my runelite and in game settings like in the video but my shift click clicks through baba and the potion. What am i missing? edit: nevermind figured it out, you have to uncheck shift click walk here on ground items.
Hi Kirby, just getting to trying to learn this & running into the issue that sometimes the boulder is falling on either the tile one or two under baba, should this be happening & how to avoid it without messing up the setup (yes this is when scuffed, i find the P1 setup really hard but can do P2 & P3 relitively flawlessly)
Cheers, i appreciate the guide
Edit: Realised i can just wait a tick given the time you have either side of him attacking before it fails
thanks for guide I hope you make more. the community needs more guides.
Hey can u make a video on how to path when there’s 1 row of tiles left on p4 , so many times I died with 1 row left plz and thanks
Failed my 500 yesterday cause I winged this. Thanks for the content boss
Are you running boulderdash?
Ty for this vid but that blooper at the end was my favorite part 😂😂 thats totally me
Whats that plugin
Hahahahaha I’m glad ur included that last clip. Thats funny, it happens
This is like solving the integral to a function in calculus. 😢
Excellent video
I’ve been trying to get my 425 clear with iron gear. I usually have level 5 baba and sometimes the rng just eats all of my supplies. Thanks for sharing this, I was trying to figure it out myself but gave up and started gambling on if baba would troll me instead
Great video!
Baba moves when I try to set this up. Why? I wish guides like this spent a lot more time detailing how to get back into the cycle and what it looks like. Also why drop the potion to set it up, why not just tank a single hit. Seems needlessly complicated
Just wait for baba to melee you, red x for 3 tiles, then attack baba. Set it up however you want
Still works?
Thanks for this! Hope they scale the damage down so this doesn't have to be a thing...But this has been great to have in the back pocket :)
Thanks Kirby appreciate it
Heey, could you explain why this is not bug abuse? Cause i'm fairly certain that it is. Isn't it the same as red xing the nex door and didn't they fix that shortly after release? I'm pretty sure this is not intended gameplay and will get patched soon.
They COULD fix it potentially. But this is essentially the same method a lot of people use at places, such as bandos/zammy for the 7:0, 8:0, etc.
@@__RS__ I can see your point yeah, you're saying its basically the same as putting a cannon base in the bandos room to click on it right? Well I don't disagree with that, the difference however from my perspective is that red xing a portal a door or whatever that is not inside the room you're trying to clear is a bug for example the nex door where you prepot could be clicked as there is no reason you should be able to click that door or the red portal in this case because you can't use it when inside the room or i should say you should not be able to use it inside the room if it doesn't 'work' anyways when inside the room. The cannon base planting in gwd is a different story in my eyes because the cannon is placed inside the bandos room for example and not on the outside of the room.
@@kennosrs1369 in that case your are fine with 2/3rds of this method which involves placing a sara brew. They could 'patch' the teleport crystal method and people would just drop another Sara brew on the ground and it would be the same.
@@MizukiTHPS That is true, I don't see a problem with dropping something inside of the room, however I can't confirm nor deny a sara brew would work as I haven't tested any of this myself. Let me be clear on this and that is that I don't know how Jagex feels about this and the reason why I am asking is that I want more information if this is allowed or not before I risk my accounts to a possible ban or something like that and not because I want to throw shade on the method itself.
It's funny how I predicted the Patch 2 weeks ago by my earlier posts and definitly is classified as a bug in the game code said by Mod Kieren in his patch notes post.
For me is just easier to tank some hits and get into the rythm
Thank you.
Great guide, unfortunately I don't play enough to want to learn it. 3 months later, do you think they'll eventually update Ba-Ba to remove this stupid cheese?
Why would they? This rewards good gameplay, get good.
@@ordelipyorinen8235 Good gameplay lol, cute
@@abomidog Amateur
@@ordelipyorinen8235 it's not about high skill, amateur skill, or whatever tf shit you're jerking yourself off about. The fact that the boss is designed so poorly that the red x method is 100% required to do Ba-Ba at high invocations is the problem. Red x at Bandos or Zammy or whatever the fuck isn't something you're *forced* to do just to survive, it just greatly enhances your survivability there. At Ba-Ba, you need to red x, or you will not survive, because it was designed to be so heavily RNG-dependent. Is doing the red x a high skill and impressive even though it's a bug? Yes. Is it good game design? No, it's lazy.
@@abomidog Either get good or drop some raid levels
U sound like you're a flight attendant lol
It's very sad that this is practically a requirement for higher invocations.
cry is free
@@aaronnbothner3714 so is poon but you still pay for it
i dont understand what a poon is but keep crying about a red click
@@aaronnbothner3714 self own xd
Patch incoming, no different than Nex red x lol
The difference is Ba-Ba is meant to be soloable and Nex isn't. Soloing high invo Ba-Ba without Red X is just RNG.
The high level community will complain about content being too easy and then find cheese ways they can avoid doing mechanics.
pretty much sums the community up pretty well
Back to reddit
Cheese ways to avoid getting fucking bonked 30 through prayer constantly. Unavoidable damage... great mechanic.
@@thenurz119 but it's too easy...why would u need to cheese unavoidable damage if it was too easy? unless..you're suggesting gagex make the game easier by nerfing baba? make up your damn mind folks.
Tell me you’re shit at the game without telling me you’re shit at the game
genuinely the worst part about this is how many times you have to do monkey room while learning...
Probably not relevant anymore for you, but recommend turning off death limits and just fighting baba on repeat until you get comfortable. Die before killing him, and run it again without doing puzzle.
@@tylerthomas6279 I love you
Not at all, take off the limited death invocations, crank it up to 500, clear the monkey room once and grind it to your hearts content. that's what I'm doing tonight.
boy, I must have died over 100 times at baba tonight... But I finally got it, and damageless baba is mine. No using super restores for me!
@@dozenuts note baba is not hard. Learn red x without death invos and use flowers if you'd like to practice longer (although getting him in cycle after boulders is arguably the harder part flowers won't help with.)
My problem when writing this comment was clearing baba then dying to akkha shadow dps checks and having no motivation to repeat monkey room cause it's so boring.
(no damage method) takes 10 damage first hit
Id rather not be forced into bug abusing to claim my 500.
You don't need to use this method to clear 500s
I did a no staff no tbow 500 run with no baba red x you can check out, there was a lot of ppl asking for a guide on this though.
@@Molgoatkirby Thank you king
Cry is free
It’s not bug abuse, red x is intentional to prevent monsters from permanently walking in circles around you when you target each other. You also don’t need to use this method for a 500, but if you’re not willing to learn a difficult strat to make your runs more consistent then there’s probably other things you’ll have a harder time with going for your orn kit.
Nice vid but for me cheesy methods like these shouldn't be in the game
Agreed, but baba is balanced around this method existing. A lvl 6 baba at raid level 500 can hit 28 through melee pray, and has like 30% accuracy against you.
You only have Keri’s to heal, so unless baba noodles, you’ll get chipped down faster than keris recharges
Hopefully this gets patched, the method to do a boss shouldn’t be bug abuse
Is 1 tick pray flicking bug abuse?
Nah they need to fix the boss
This is the type of stuff that makes this game so lame. No one wants these types of mechanics besides sweat lords who literally do not have a life
u need to speak more clearly @molgoatkirby ily