I've always thought it was as the older gentlemen said: Make 'em and Take 'em. Ship building was huge in the wear valley but the complicated and higher wage job of rigging was done on Tyneside. The bit about 'Marra' was fascinating. Never heard that before. Would LOVE to see a video on the civil war era.
I'm currently having my post graduate medical studies @ Newcastle. Lovely city with great friendly people. Struggling a bit with the accent but I'm gradually getting a hang of it.
Great video Eddy, I live in Washington but I’m a Toon fan. Always worked with a mixture of Geordies and Mackems and had some great banter over the football. Sunderland folk are lovely people. TBH I don’t even know where the name Geordies came from 😂. The Scott’s say we’re just Scottish with our heeds kicked in 🤣
I arrived in Sunderland around 1956 and was unaware of the expression mackem and takem (which then got abbreviated to makem) until about the 80's. I realize it was a reference to a slight speech difference between Sunderland and Newcastle but initially all the people in the North East sounded the same - though to this day I have great difficulty with Pitmatic. I believe the local dialect features many Danish words due to the various contacts with invaders and settlers from the 600's. I once was doing a gig in Newcastle and the pub was full of guys in football strips (Magpies) and I said to the crowd, ''Please join in and singalong; we're from Sunderland and need all the help we can get.'' The bass player went white and as we survived pleaded I never do that again. :) I liked the Hollywood star crack you made just after the drunk guy promoted his channel. I find all speech difference fascinating which is just as well, as I currently live in Prague.
I love being a Mackem, I'm 47 & it's something I've always heard being said. I recall it mostly through football, being a fan of the red & whites, however I had heard the shipyards reference as my Dad worked for Doxfords in the late 70's and that would have been my answer. I also really enjoyed the explanation of Marra, which makes a lot of sense, though I have never used the word. I always thought it more of Durham word.
Hello bro, I used to live in Sunderland for 5 years. Unfortunately I'm french but I really love this city. A day I'm coming back for long. I really appreciate to have news update from my heart city. You made a good job. God bless you cheers hope meet you then around a tea cup why not . If you're agree say 100 % percent. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
My understanding of where the term Mackem comes from is from the shipyard industry and also the wider use of the term Geordie in the North East came from George Stephenson's lamp otherwise known as the Geordie lamp so this video confirms my understanding.
As someone from the coalfields with a DH postcode I have mad love the kid who clarified he was from Houghton not Sunderland. I never used to think much of it till in my late teens I moved to Wearside and discovered there were genuine cultural differences. Like nobody talked about cricket in Sunderland. It was a religion at my School.
I live in Lancashire but was born and brought up in Seahouses Northumberland. Here in Lancashire they call me a Geordie along with people from as far south as Middlesbrough and they don't know what a Makam or a Takham is!
So my Grandfather during WW2 was known by his nickname "Geordie" even know he was from seaham. When i asked him about it, he would tell me its because i worked down the mines before joining. So that may prove your pervious point about people from the north east as a whole being referred to as Geordies
My father worked in the shipyards and I never heard him mention the word mackem. The first time I heard the word was about 1984 when my metalwork teacher at secondary school corrected someone for referring to themselves as a geordie. “ You’re not a geordie you’re a mackem”, he said. Funny the things you remember.
"Makem" is just the way a person with a Sunderland accent would say the words "make them" Makem is just half of the phrase "Makem and Takem" or "make them and take them". What they were referring to are ships and in particular the SD14 cargo ship, (Shelter Deck 14), which was made at the Austin and Pickersgill shipyard in Sunderland in large numbers and was popular with Greek ship owners. It had the famous Doxford crosshead engine. The Sunderland workers would make them and the Greeks would take them - Makem and Takem. In more modern times off course Makem refers to a posh Geordie!
When I was in hopital in Sunderland, I asked the same question. One chap informed me that people (on a Friday night) would congregate outside 'Mackeys' (a shop in the high street)......... hence Mackems.
Mixed feelings and emotions about this place can’t work it out if I love it or hate it I have good memories of this place growing up but think it’s all over for the place now like a forgotten land the people are lost souls
This was great to watch. Really fascinating. Great accents by the way. Amazing how different you sound to us down in Bristol. When we came to SJP (we were actually once in the same division amazingly) my daughter genuinely thought the steward was talking in Italian 😄 Can I ask a probably daft question? Is there any detectable difference between a Geordie accent and a Mackey accent?
Hi Atty, great message thank you. Yeah there are distinct differences between the accents to us locals. I’m from Gateshead so I have an accent identical to Newcastle. Sunderland is 10-12 miles away and we can tell immediately a Wearside accent. For example, the word ‘Make’. We say ‘myache’. They say ‘mak’. Hence Mackem.
@@TynesideLife Thanks for such a prompt reply. I’ll listen out for such nuances in future! Newcastle was always my boyhood team. Got loads of stick at school as believe it or not Newcastle used to be on a par/sometimes even worse than Bristol City and.Bristol Rovers. When I found out how far Newcastle is it wasn’t practical, so now I follow City all over the country. To finally get to St James Pk to see us draw 2-2 was one of the best and most emotional days of my life. Walked all around and saw those Georgian style houses that used to be visible before the stadium grew. To then climb what felt like a 1,000 steps up to the away area, see for miles across Newcastle and hear ‘Local Hero’ played before the match choked me right up.
The only thing that makes me think that Mackems were not called Geordies is if the lamp based source for the word Geordie is true. Sunderland resident William Reid Clanny had developed a lamp long before George Stephenson and Humphrey Davy was working for a Sunderland safety committee when he developed his lamp.
An example of Geordie dry humour I love A lad came to our town to live and we got on straight away as he moved next door and after a couple of months we were near his home town one Sunday morning and he said I've just got to drop in and see my dad about something no probs I said and we got there and he invited me in to meet his parents. His mum was at the cooker frying bacon I said hi and introduced myself but his dad was sitting at the table reading a paper he was holding up and didn't even bother looking at me from behind the paper I just thought he was a miserable git. To them that know Geordie humour the scene was set and I walked straight into it, his mum politely asked if I would like a cup of tea or coffee and I noticed his dad crumpled the paper a bit then she said do you want a bacon sandwich and his dad jumped up effin and blinding and ripped the paper in half and said what the hell are you doing woman? she replied what, I offered the lad a bacon sarny what's the big deal? at this point, I was thinking these are nutters there going to have a major domestic over a bacon sarny and then his dad said our Steven has brought his friend from where he lives now and you are showing him up and offering him tea and expensive coffee and to top it off you offered him bacon, she said what the hell is wrong with that? he replied you could be showing the lad up, she asked hows that? He said, how do you know if he has money in his pocket to pay for it, look at him does he look rich he obviously has got F,all, I looked back at my mate he was smiling and said welcome to my family meet dad LOL. Years later he died but even on his death bed he never changed, we were near his house and dropped in and as soon as I walked in he started, what do you want, what you doing here, what you after I bet he's heard the news I'm dying the bastards come for a loan, your getting f,all. Then said, seriously come here son I want to give you a bit of advice before I go and I sat next to his bed and said what's that then and he replied "Always take your trousers down before you have a shite" and that was it, I looked at him and said I've always respected you because your just a wealth of knowledge and he just smiled.
As a Mackem born and bred I love your videos Eddie mate. If I see that Sand dancer with the snidey DSquared top on in college this week I'm going to rip that stupid hair off his turnip heed
It stems from the ships being build on the wear and sent up to the Tyne to complete fitting out and sea trials. It became prevalent in the 1970,s as the ship building industry came under pressure to survive (intense rivalry between Austin and Pickersgil & Swan hunters, the term was given to the Mackems by the Geordies as a ridicule on the wearside accent "we mak em and they Tak em". It is well known that in the seventies the Sunderland away football fans used to sing The Blaydon races etc and similar songs indicating they consider themselves Geordies, probably because of the lack of any different name or identity at that time
😂 that’s quite funny. No, the accents around Newcastle and Sunderland are quite unique and can be traced back to the Viking invasions in terms of our slang
@@TynesideLife Logically I know this to be the case, but my ears really can't hear much of a difference. I reckon it's because I'm not intimately familiar with them, not used to hearing them everyday. I suppose it would be the same for someone not from the U.S. Southeast hearing a Georgia vs. Louisiana accent.
I first went to Sunderland when I was 57. I was genuinely worried that someone might know I had been there and from then on I would be suspected of being a Sunderland supporter or at least a sympathiser. Then I remembered that I had left school over 40 years ago and live in a country that isn't the United Kingdom, so who would care. I should point out that my brother in law is a Sunderland supporter, and voted for the Eton old boy with the yellow hair.
@@TynesideLife its sad as fuck....thing is I guess, If you live in Sunderland now, you dont tend to go into Sunderland city Centre as it looks like a war zone.
I moved to Sunderland area this year and yeah, it's sad how run down the city centre is. The coastline is beautiful though, that's what brought me here.
Absolutely wonderful vlogs. Not sure that Sunderland would be the best place to build ships then pass them on. Its not as deepwater as Newcastle. I was always told that the term was always about spotting someone outside their area and they took them for a "ride" Also not so sure about the Marra definition. Seems too twee to me!
The term Geordie comes from King George's men and refers to those who were born on the Tyne like Jarrow, being born in Newcastle doesn't actually constitute to being a Geordie and this was stipulated by king George (forget which one), you HAD to be born on the Tyne itself, Newcastle wasn't as big as it is now so remember that and was split up before blending into what we see today. It's a military reference and I know this from being born in the Army where my family's regiment was the 15th/19th King's Royal Hussars, THE Geordie Regiment. There is also the Regimental Museum at the Life Centre or somewhere near there in Newcastle Centre for the 15th/19th KRH. So those from Sunderland were NOT Geordie as this refers to being born on the TYNE and not the WEAR so were never called Geordie. It was an Honour from King George as Geordie actually means George. Just to add, those who join a regiment learn the history of that regiment and the British Army is very diligent on their history. As for Macekm, it is for Mackem and Tackem. As me Grandda telt me. Mackem is an old term that was supposed to be a slur by Geordies for those in Sunderland on the Ship building because, a mackem could take four bits of wood, all the same dimensions and Mack and Tack a box, like 4 pieces of 2x2 the same length, then mack and tack a box, such was the ingenuity of the ship builders in Sunderland. Sunderland was famous for Ship building for centuries, in fact, ships for the Battle of Trafalgar were built here, hence the Alms Houses at the real Trafalgar Square in Sunderland. The ships for the second World war were also built in Sunderland. Now me Grandda said is translates to make them and take them and going back to old Wear dialect, this makes sense to mak'em and take'em to the quicker way and dialecty to mack'em and tack'em to finally mackem and tackem, then the short, mackem. Nah me uncle worked in ship building but down in pallion in the offices so........ The term being a slur from the Geordies was taken as a Compliment by those in Sunderland. The Mackems also had a long standing Joke against the Geordies for a very very long time. It gans like this: What's is a Geordie? A Scotsman with his brains kicked in. This comes from around 400 years ago or so when Sunderland sided with the Scots and helped them but those in Newcastle didn't like it so they fought. The ship builders built many famous ships, even Richard Pickersgill which is thought to be a long distant relation/ancestor of mine, was the Cartographer for Captain James Cook and had a few places named after him, like a Pickersgill island in Australia, I believe in Aus anyway. Richard became a Captain in his own right also. Pickersgill and Co was a Ship Builders here and had East and West Docks. Mackem is to do with the Ship Building but as mentioned, was supposed to be a slur from the Geordies but received as a compliment. A lot of the new generation do not even know about this. I even met a couple of lads from Sunderland who even thought Mackem was from another part of England. They refused to acknowledge it as them. Some do not even realise it is a compliment.
Hello mate, thanks for your comments. I have to apologise for correcting you as you’re way off on this. I’d encourage you to watch the video I done about ‘Geordies’ a couple of weeks ago as I unfold the historical evolution of the term using historical record and of course the complete absence of historical record, which the latter forms the basis of your views. I’ll invite you to provide historical reference to support your claims as it’s clear you’ve been told some urban myths Many thanks 👍🏻s
as i was growing up in the 70s we were classed as wearsiders not mackems the term mackem came later,id heard the term mackems but never was it associated to the local people as in a collective name .
I met a lovely guy back in '74 from Sunderland when he came to Luton to work, he met my dad who happened to be from Newcastle and they hit it off straight away, infact my dad idolised him, we fell in love but I was only 16 and he was 21 and my parents said I was too young to get involved with him seriously, so when his work in Luton was finished (roughly 3mths later) he said he would come back for me when I was 18, we never stayed in touch so I didn't think he would come back for me, but when I was nearly 19 my dad came back from the Luton Labour club and told me Norman had turned up asking after me, my dad broke the news that I was now married and his face dropped, I was gutted and tried to find him but with no luck. I'm many years divorced now and I often wonder what happened to him. 'The love I lost.!! I've always regretted not waiting for him 😢
shaz I'm sure that Norman dosnt forget you either. my mum told me once that her second eldest sister although was very happily married had an old boyfriend who she never forgot. some people leave such an impression on us xx
im a walker boy & Sunderland folk are the same as us, football caused bad blood , but i respect people from Sunderland , i think some Geordies could start a fight in an empty room
Despite being a proud Geordie, I worked in Sunderland and went to uni there for 15 years. I loved it in all honesty, great laugh and banter. We love to hate each other, but when the chips are down, we'd be there with each other!
I was the interpreter for a lad from Sunderland and I was from Wallsend. As a soldier SAS I had to speak with the Queen Mother and they sent a Scotsman to be my Interpreter. The queen Mother said she loved my Geordie accent.
My father (1926 - 2012) was from Sunderland but moved away when he was about 10yrs old. He always said that he'd never heard "Mackem" when he lived there and folks always referred to themselves as Geordies. Either he had a bad memory or the term is more recent than we think?
Seriously great rivalry, proud of our sunderland heritage. Greatest shipbuilding town, mines, engineering, ropery, glass making, Venerable bede. Not bad for a little place in the North East of England
@@135Ops From Durham Cathedral archives. Most of what is known about Bede’s life comes from a short note at the end of his book The Ecclesiastical History of the English People, written around 731. Nothing is known of his family, but he was born in about 673 near to the monastery of Wearmouth, and aged 7 was given to the monastery to be educated, as children often were at the time. His first teacher was Benedict Biscop, and then later he moved to the newly-founded monastery at Jarrow with Abbot Ceolfrith, where he would remain as a monk.
Lost for words with the fella in the grey tracksuit….shame he kept interrupting the man who actually knew what he was talking about
I've always thought it was as the older gentlemen said: Make 'em and Take 'em. Ship building was huge in the wear valley but the complicated and higher wage job of rigging was done on Tyneside. The bit about 'Marra' was fascinating. Never heard that before.
Would LOVE to see a video on the civil war era.
Will do Mark 👍🏻
marra is another name for mate !
@@tomarmstrong5244some ships were taken to newcastle Tom. You need to stop asserting your opinions as fact.
It’s all on public record
The word knacker is best described as lad in the white trackie called Ra 9 game r 😂
Btilliant Eddie, some good laughs. I'll just leave it there...😄
that guy recording you was doing my head in haha
I'm currently having my post graduate medical studies @ Newcastle. Lovely city with great friendly people. Struggling a bit with the accent but I'm gradually getting a hang of it.
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Divnt worry kidda, you'll sharp get the hang of the way wi taak
I'm a Birmingham fan, respect both Sunderland and Newcastle fans, good people both
07:58 - Definitely a contender for the worst chat-up line of the year 😂😂
Great video Eddy, I live in Washington but I’m a Toon fan. Always worked with a mixture of Geordies and Mackems and had some great banter over the football. Sunderland folk are lovely people. TBH I don’t even know where the name Geordies came from 😂. The Scott’s say we’re just Scottish with our heeds kicked in 🤣
Haha! If you watch my Geordie video I did a couple of weeks ago, you’ll discover where the term came from 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife I’ll have a watch mate
Understand Newcastle got coal mining contracts off king george.....hence Geordies.
Eddie you’re top class man! The way you felt with him was spot on! N yeas would love to here more about the battle! Keep up the great work
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God bless Comprehensive education...
I`ve never heard such a group of dead heads,its a very depressing future with kids like that around.
I arrived in Sunderland around 1956 and was unaware of the expression mackem and takem (which then got abbreviated to makem) until about the 80's. I realize it was a reference to a slight speech difference between Sunderland and Newcastle but initially all the people in the North East sounded the same - though to this day I have great difficulty with Pitmatic. I believe the local dialect features many Danish words due to the various contacts with invaders and settlers from the 600's. I once was doing a gig in Newcastle and the pub was full of guys in football strips (Magpies) and I said to the crowd, ''Please join in and singalong; we're from Sunderland and need all the help we can get.'' The bass player went white and as we survived pleaded I never do that again. :) I liked the Hollywood star crack you made just after the drunk guy promoted his channel. I find all speech difference fascinating which is just as well, as I currently live in Prague.
😂 Great message Jack 👍🏻☝️
Would love to hear about that civil war battle Eddy! Keep up the great vids
I love being a Mackem, I'm 47 & it's something I've always heard being said. I recall it mostly through football, being a fan of the red & whites, however I had heard the shipyards reference as my Dad worked for Doxfords in the late 70's and that would have been my answer.
I also really enjoyed the explanation of Marra, which makes a lot of sense, though I have never used the word. I always thought it more of Durham word.
Great message 👍🏻
It's a word used in Ashington a lot too, it's from the mining communities
Hello bro, I used to live in Sunderland for 5 years. Unfortunately I'm french but I really love this city. A day I'm coming back for long. I really appreciate to have news update from my heart city. You made a good job. God bless you cheers hope meet you then around a tea cup why not . If you're agree say 100 % percent. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you 🙏
@@TynesideLife God bless Sunderland supporters for life
what a hoot that lad was with the cans, always wanted to be in every shot!
My understanding of where the term Mackem comes from is from the shipyard industry and also the wider use of the term Geordie in the North East came from George Stephenson's lamp otherwise known as the Geordie lamp so this video confirms my understanding.
As someone from the coalfields with a DH postcode I have mad love the kid who clarified he was from Houghton not Sunderland. I never used to think much of it till in my late teens I moved to Wearside and discovered there were genuine cultural differences. Like nobody talked about cricket in Sunderland. It was a religion at my School.
So glad to discover your chanel. Thankyou
I live in Lancashire but was born and brought up in Seahouses Northumberland. Here in Lancashire they call me a Geordie along with people from as far south as Middlesbrough and they don't know what a Makam or a Takham is!
So my Grandfather during WW2 was known by his nickname "Geordie" even know he was from seaham. When i asked him about it, he would tell me its because i worked down the mines before joining. So that may prove your pervious point about people from the north east as a whole being referred to as Geordies
My father worked in the shipyards and I never heard him mention the word mackem. The first time I heard the word was about 1984 when my metalwork teacher at secondary school corrected someone for referring to themselves as a geordie. “ You’re not a geordie you’re a mackem”, he said. Funny the things you remember.
Fantastic informative thanks.im from South Shields and it's Newcastle and Sunderland 50/50....here
04.40 best bloke lol
That lot were about as bright as midnight
"Makem" is just the way a person with a Sunderland accent would say the words "make them" Makem is just half of the phrase "Makem and Takem" or "make them and take them". What they were referring to are ships and in particular the SD14 cargo ship, (Shelter Deck 14), which was made at the Austin and Pickersgill shipyard in Sunderland in large numbers and was popular with Greek ship owners. It had the famous Doxford crosshead engine. The Sunderland workers would make them and the Greeks would take them - Makem and Takem. In more modern times off course Makem refers to a posh Geordie!
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When I was in hopital in Sunderland, I asked the same question. One chap informed me that people (on a Friday night) would congregate outside 'Mackeys' (a shop in the high street)......... hence Mackems.
The north east of England use a bit of the same lingo as some Scots with phrases like- em gang awa doon the shops ken 😀🔥
A Boldon hill video would be interesting Eddie
Mixed feelings and emotions about this place can’t work it out if I love it or hate it I have good memories of this place growing up but think it’s all over for the place now like a forgotten land the people are lost souls
This was great to watch. Really fascinating. Great accents by the way. Amazing how different you sound to us down in Bristol. When we came to SJP (we were actually once in the same division amazingly) my daughter genuinely thought the steward was talking in Italian 😄 Can I ask a probably daft question? Is there any detectable difference between a Geordie accent and a Mackey accent?
Sorry should say Mackem accent - predictive text is a mare
Hi Atty, great message thank you.
Yeah there are distinct differences between the accents to us locals.
I’m from Gateshead so I have an accent identical to Newcastle.
Sunderland is 10-12 miles away and we can tell immediately a Wearside accent.
For example, the word ‘Make’. We say ‘myache’. They say ‘mak’. Hence Mackem.
@@TynesideLife Thanks for such a prompt reply. I’ll listen out for such nuances in future! Newcastle was always my boyhood team. Got loads of stick at school as believe it or not Newcastle used to be on a par/sometimes even worse than Bristol City and.Bristol Rovers. When I found out how far Newcastle is it wasn’t practical, so now I follow City all over the country. To finally get to St James Pk to see us draw 2-2 was one of the best and most emotional days of my life. Walked all around and saw those Georgian style houses that used to be visible before the stadium grew. To then climb what felt like a 1,000 steps up to the away area, see for miles across Newcastle and hear ‘Local Hero’ played before the match choked me right up.
@@attycray4395 wow! Another great message mate 🤛🏻
Check out Vic and Bob’s old skits of geordies and Sunderland people to get exaggerated versions of the accents 😂
Fascinating again. I heard the term "marra" a lot when i was at college in ashington.
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The south sheilds lad was spot on👌
😂😂😂 Eddie you're hilarious, you know how to get those views bro . 83k 😂
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I know where the word Rajee came from, that one with the cans lol
The 84 year old bloke was great for his age but he should curl up in embarrassment for not knowing the answer.
I used to always just joke that "When Geordies won't, Sunderland Mackem"
O man! Some of the characters in this video. Hilarious! The sandancer hates us
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The only thing that makes me think that Mackems were not called Geordies is if the lamp based source for the word Geordie is true.
Sunderland resident William Reid Clanny had developed a lamp long before George Stephenson and Humphrey Davy was working for a Sunderland safety committee when he developed his lamp.
Mackems were called Geordies prior to the 1980’s bud
Im a mackem and proud of it.
An example of Geordie dry humour I love
A lad came to our town to live and we got on straight away as he moved next door and after a couple of months we were near his home town one Sunday morning and he said I've just got to drop in and see my dad about something no probs I said and we got there and he invited me in to meet his parents.
His mum was at the cooker frying bacon I said hi and introduced myself but his dad was sitting at the table reading a paper he was holding up and didn't even bother looking at me from behind the paper I just thought he was a miserable git.
To them that know Geordie humour the scene was set and I walked straight into it, his mum politely asked if I would like a cup of tea or coffee and I noticed his dad crumpled the paper a bit then she said do you want a bacon sandwich and his dad jumped up effin and blinding and ripped the paper in half and said what the hell are you doing woman?
she replied what, I offered the lad a bacon sarny what's the big deal? at this point, I was thinking these are nutters there going to have a major domestic over a bacon sarny and then his dad said our Steven has brought his friend from where he lives now and you are showing him up and offering him tea and expensive coffee and to top it off you offered him bacon, she said what the hell is wrong with that? he replied you could be showing the lad up, she asked hows that?
He said, how do you know if he has money in his pocket to pay for it, look at him does he look rich he obviously has got F,all, I looked back at my mate he was smiling and said welcome to my family meet dad LOL.
Years later he died but even on his death bed he never changed, we were near his house and dropped in and as soon as I walked in he started, what do you want, what you doing here, what you after I bet he's heard the news I'm dying the bastards come for a loan, your getting f,all.
Then said, seriously come here son I want to give you a bit of advice before I go and I sat next to his bed and said what's that then and he replied "Always take your trousers down before you have a shite" and that was it, I looked at him and said I've always respected you because your just a wealth of knowledge and he just smiled.
As a Mackem born and bred I love your videos Eddie mate. If I see that Sand dancer with the snidey DSquared top on in college this week I'm going to rip that stupid hair off his turnip heed
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Great video love to see the battle between Sunderland and Newcastle roundhead and the Royalists Mike UK
Apparently the mackems got help by the Scots and won
Deffo do a video on the battle of boldon hill Eddie!!
I’ve already done one 😃
Great video by the way love it 😀
It stems from the ships being build on the wear and sent up to the Tyne to complete fitting out and sea trials. It became prevalent in the 1970,s as the ship building industry came under pressure to survive (intense rivalry between Austin and Pickersgil & Swan hunters, the term was given to the Mackems by the Geordies as a ridicule on the wearside accent "we mak em and they Tak em".
It is well known that in the seventies the Sunderland away football fans used to sing The Blaydon races etc and similar songs indicating they consider themselves Geordies, probably because of the lack of any different name or identity at that time
Great message mate 👍🏻
Ladies! your having a laugh Eddie
Al from Brisbane love what you do
Cheers Al 🤛🏻
Do a video on the Golden Hill, tell us about the first derby
So it came down Mackams and takhams. Sunderland made the ships and Geordies took the trade back to Newcastle (takhams) so there is your answer
You cannot beat local knowledge. How did they manage to build ships ?
Great video Eddy, very interesting stuff.
Hi Julie
Eddie great video I actually live in sunderland with my lass and kids gutted I didn’t see you in town would have loved a chat
Next time bud
I'm American and while I could understand what they were saying, to me the accents in this video all sound like variations of a Scottish accent.
😂 that’s quite funny. No, the accents around Newcastle and Sunderland are quite unique and can be traced back to the Viking invasions in terms of our slang
@@TynesideLife Logically I know this to be the case, but my ears really can't hear much of a difference. I reckon it's because I'm not intimately familiar with them, not used to hearing them everyday. I suppose it would be the same for someone not from the U.S. Southeast hearing a Georgia vs. Louisiana accent.
@@firstnamelastname4427 perhaps. That’s quite an interesting observation to make so thank you for sharing that
Yes Eddie a one on the battle of Boldon Hill would be very interesting.
Done one 👍🏻😃
Very interesting eddy enjoyed that
7:57 Jesus Christ, that's made my milk curdle!! 😆
Another cracking video, you going World Cup? That would be awesome! 👍😎
Not sure yet Sharky
Thanks for another interesting video and thanks for doing your civic duty - yes, I saw you on a 'Litter pick' this morning! 😀
I silently go about keeping our streets clean of litter 😁
@@TynesideLife Top man,I hate seeing litter in the streets and parks too.
The lad from Shields in the bus station spoke the most sense.
Mackam is Geordie for the others across the water. That’s what I got told anyway.
That has been made up in someone’s imagination.
For the true Geordie history, check out my Geordie video in the history and culture playlist 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife well that’s what my Geordie mother told me 😂 they’re just people from Sunderland..
@@Simnadine I’m from Gateshead and I’m a Geordie too 👊🏻 if you’d like to understand more about where the term come from, check out the video 👍🏻
There were several Engine builders in Sunderland yards
Doxfords been the most famous
Enjoyed that 👍🏻
Give that lad no the bus station a medal
love to hear about Bolton hill
I first went to Sunderland when I was 57. I was genuinely worried that someone might know I had been there and from then on I would be suspected of being a Sunderland supporter or at least a sympathiser. Then I remembered that I had left school over 40 years ago and live in a country that isn't the United Kingdom, so who would care. I should point out that my brother in law is a Sunderland supporter, and voted for the Eton old boy with the yellow hair.
Great video Eddie 👍
Fishy on the dishy.
Eddy worked in the yards them days, the Geordies give them the name no work on wearside,toon black and army.
Great vid apart from the piss heed lol
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make a video about their war
They should just say Mackem and mistaken because they don't half get upset when they are mistaken for a Geordie on Holiday 😂
From Sunderland, and fuck me the state of the city and the people, Jesus I’m glad I escaped.
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@@TynesideLife its sad as fuck....thing is I guess, If you live in Sunderland now, you dont tend to go into Sunderland city Centre as it looks like a war zone.
I moved to Sunderland area this year and yeah, it's sad how run down the city centre is. The coastline is beautiful though, that's what brought me here.
@@DebbieH5731 best beach in the world mate.
im from kent never been to sunderland.i knew where mackems came from.i dont know any mackems lol
🤣 Eddie you forgot the subtitles
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Weez keez a theez
Cringing at some of them interviews. 😂 good video just shame people don’t know and don’t care about their heritage.
Im from Stanley and sometimes we get insulted by people saying we are makems..........the shame
Absolutely wonderful vlogs. Not sure that Sunderland would be the best place to build ships then pass them on. Its not as deepwater as Newcastle. I was always told that the term was always about spotting someone outside their area and they took them for a "ride" Also not so sure about the Marra definition. Seems too twee to me!
Definitely true about the shipbuilding Frau 👍🏻
The bloke at 5.07 was correct.
Hi Eddy my dad always maintained that Geordies were from the Durham coalfield
Watch my Geordie video bud 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife I have m8
@@geordie1920 ahh! The video adds more detail and context to the comment you made. Hope you enjoyed it 👍🏻
Yeah was good m8
I always thought people from Durham were called pit yakkers? 🤔
defo bolden hill video !!
I’ve done that video. It’s in my history and culture playlist 👍🏻
The term Geordie comes from King George's men and refers to those who were born on the Tyne like Jarrow, being born in Newcastle doesn't actually constitute to being a Geordie and this was stipulated by king George (forget which one), you HAD to be born on the Tyne itself, Newcastle wasn't as big as it is now so remember that and was split up before blending into what we see today. It's a military reference and I know this from being born in the Army where my family's regiment was the 15th/19th King's Royal Hussars, THE Geordie Regiment. There is also the Regimental Museum at the Life Centre or somewhere near there in Newcastle Centre for the 15th/19th KRH. So those from Sunderland were NOT Geordie as this refers to being born on the TYNE and not the WEAR so were never called Geordie. It was an Honour from King George as Geordie actually means George.
Just to add, those who join a regiment learn the history of that regiment and the British Army is very diligent on their history.
As for Macekm, it is for Mackem and Tackem. As me Grandda telt me. Mackem is an old term that was supposed to be a slur by Geordies for those in Sunderland on the Ship building because, a mackem could take four bits of wood, all the same dimensions and Mack and Tack a box, like 4 pieces of 2x2 the same length, then mack and tack a box, such was the ingenuity of the ship builders in Sunderland. Sunderland was famous for Ship building for centuries, in fact, ships for the Battle of Trafalgar were built here, hence the Alms Houses at the real Trafalgar Square in Sunderland. The ships for the second World war were also built in Sunderland. Now me Grandda said is translates to make them and take them and going back to old Wear dialect, this makes sense to mak'em and take'em to the quicker way and dialecty to mack'em and tack'em to finally mackem and tackem, then the short, mackem. Nah me uncle worked in ship building but down in pallion in the offices so........
The term being a slur from the Geordies was taken as a Compliment by those in Sunderland. The Mackems also had a long standing Joke against the Geordies for a very very long time. It gans like this:
What's is a Geordie? A Scotsman with his brains kicked in.
This comes from around 400 years ago or so when Sunderland sided with the Scots and helped them but those in Newcastle didn't like it so they fought.
The ship builders built many famous ships, even Richard Pickersgill which is thought to be a long distant relation/ancestor of mine, was the Cartographer for Captain James Cook and had a few places named after him, like a Pickersgill island in Australia, I believe in Aus anyway. Richard became a Captain in his own right also. Pickersgill and Co was a Ship Builders here and had East and West Docks.
Mackem is to do with the Ship Building but as mentioned, was supposed to be a slur from the Geordies but received as a compliment. A lot of the new generation do not even know about this. I even met a couple of lads from Sunderland who even thought Mackem was from another part of England. They refused to acknowledge it as them. Some do not even realise it is a compliment.
Hello mate, thanks for your comments.
I have to apologise for correcting you as you’re way off on this.
I’d encourage you to watch the video I done about ‘Geordies’ a couple of weeks ago as I unfold the historical evolution of the term using historical record and of course the complete absence of historical record, which the latter forms the basis of your views.
I’ll invite you to provide historical reference to support your claims as it’s clear you’ve been told some urban myths
Many thanks 👍🏻s
I was told it was a case of Sunderland make em (ships) and Newcastle take em. & my god that drunk fella needs to gets a little bit police brutality 😂
Please do a video about the Battle...that'd be fascinating
I have mate 👍🏻
@@TynesideLife ooo...musta missed that..I'll check it out, thanks
Geordies here geordies there geordies everyfucking where at roker park in70s and 80s as safe fans
the most logical is , you makem we takem . shipbuilding . thats what i was always told .
It’s cos we mackem do this and we mackem do that 🤣
as i was growing up in the 70s we were classed as wearsiders not mackems the term mackem came later,id heard the term mackems but never was it associated to the local people as in a collective name .
I’ve since been referenced a derby day programme from 1924 at Roker Park which referred to Sunderland fans as Mackems
Well educated them lot 😂😂😂😂
its to do with the ship yards we mackem you tackem
Some of them were thick as mince 😂😂. Mainly the younguns like.
The smart lad... was smart
Some brahmas there mind !
You picked a right bunch of wallopers to interview there like Eddie 😂
They don't call it Sundulund for nothing.
@@philgray1023 Geordie maggots
Yeah, Sunderland but
Those were all actually the local university faculty
@@briankelly5443 There are a few Brian.
I met a lovely guy back in '74 from Sunderland when he came to Luton to work, he met my dad who happened to be from Newcastle and they hit it off straight away, infact my dad idolised him, we fell in love but I was only 16 and he was 21 and my parents said I was too young to get involved with him seriously, so when his work in Luton was finished (roughly 3mths later) he said he would come back for me when I was 18, we never stayed in touch so I didn't think he would come back for me, but when I was nearly 19 my dad came back from the Luton Labour club and told me Norman had turned up asking after me, my dad broke the news that I was now married and his face dropped, I was gutted and tried to find him but with no luck. I'm many years divorced now and I often wonder what happened to him. 'The love I lost.!! I've always regretted not waiting for him 😢
Thank you for sharing that moving story Shaz 😢
@@TynesideLife your welcome.!!
Bless you petal, that's really sad x
shaz I'm sure that Norman dosnt forget you either. my mum told me once that her second eldest sister although was very happily married had an old boyfriend who she never forgot. some people leave such an impression on us xx
im a walker boy & Sunderland folk are the same as us, football caused bad blood , but i respect people from Sunderland , i think some Geordies could start a fight in an empty room
I’ve lived all over the country and there’s folk like that everywhere unfortunately
Despite being a proud Geordie, I worked in Sunderland and went to uni there for 15 years. I loved it in all honesty, great laugh and banter. We love to hate each other, but when the chips are down, we'd be there with each other!
Wake up mate
Fuck that! SMB
Wtf u smoking
Would we shite..ftm.
15 years?
I was the interpreter for a lad from Sunderland and I was from Wallsend. As a soldier SAS I had to speak with the Queen Mother and they sent a Scotsman to be my Interpreter. The queen Mother said she loved my Geordie accent.
Thank you for your service
My father (1926 - 2012) was from Sunderland but moved away when he was about 10yrs old. He always said that he'd never heard "Mackem" when he lived there and folks always referred to themselves as Geordies. Either he had a bad memory or the term is more recent than we think?
Interesting… 👍🏻
Seriously great rivalry, proud of our sunderland heritage.
Greatest shipbuilding town, mines, engineering, ropery, glass making, Venerable bede. Not bad for a little place in the North East of England
@@135Ops From Durham Cathedral archives. Most of what is known about Bede’s life comes from a short note at the end of his book The Ecclesiastical History of the English People, written around 731. Nothing is known of his family, but he was born in about 673 near to the monastery of Wearmouth, and aged 7 was given to the monastery to be educated, as children often were at the time. His first teacher was Benedict Biscop, and then later he moved to the newly-founded monastery at Jarrow with Abbot Ceolfrith, where he would remain as a monk.