I remember my mother taking me to downtown Huntington Park for lunch many times when I was about 5 or so😁..... and I believe the little restaurant was called Clifton's Cafeteria🤔.
I just looked it up... we must have done the same thing from H.Park.... kinda hard to remember from 70 years ago... and I worked in L.A. downtown for 20 years at night and never knew it was there..🤔 Thanks for the reminder.
I road the “J” car with my grandmother from Walnut Park. Clifton’s was great. I especially remember the miniature bottles of cream with a little white paper top that had to be peeled off.
For me I believe it was a Forest /Waterfall that stands out......... loved the place ... and the Rockview Dairy in Downey had those bottles with the paper inserts up until the late 60's in there drive-up as I remember.😎
All those freeways quickly became parking lots in a decade! One trolley could move dozens of people vs the same space used by cars can hold 6-8 people! UGH
It's often forgotten, but the same fate befell much of the extensive streetcar systems in the old world too. One of the few surviving networks is the KVB in Cologne (Germany). It's somewhat up to debate what saved them, but part of the reason is that they refurbished their rather ancient trolleys to allow for long trains at high speeds. I have this idea that the Pacific Electric could have looked like this, in a better future: ua-cam.com/video/L836jTAca44/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=359 This is an old interurban line from 1906, absorbed into the city-owned KVB trolley network in the 1980s. The KVB basically took everything they could get hold of to allow through-services running from their own streetcar-tunnels to neighboring cities. There are similar projects already built and underway to connect old trolley networks together with newly built interurban lines.
HA-HA! I remember seeing a placemat sold at the Orange Empire Railway Museum store with a map of the P.E., and the caption below it said the exact same thing in your comment, with not one single word changed!
Not only GM, but Ford, Mack Truck, Standard Oil, Phillips Petroleum, and Firestone Rubber Company; they ALL combined forces to create the mess we all must suffer with today! Please read Stanley I. Fischler's "Moving Millions"; this book will uncover what went wrong with good, rail-based public transit in our nation.
For interested parties, a good book by Stanley I. Fischler entitled "Moving Millions" Documents the rise and fall of good rail-based public transit in our nation, and how GM and Ford, while forcing everyone into cars in the USA, was also assisting Hitler's war efforts with the manufacture of heavy truck parts in their Russelsheim facility. Same goes for Standard Oil and the shennagins they pulled at Monowitz!
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That's a good history of Pacific Electric and Los Angeles trolleys 😊
I remember my mother taking me to downtown Huntington Park for lunch many times when I was about 5 or so😁..... and I believe the little restaurant was called Clifton's Cafeteria🤔.
Clifton's was in downtown LA. My mom and I would pick up the J line at the Palm Place loop and ride to LA for movies, shopping, or Cliftons.
I just looked it up... we must have done the same thing from H.Park.... kinda hard to remember from 70 years ago... and I worked in L.A. downtown for 20 years at night and never knew it was there..🤔 Thanks for the reminder.
I road the “J” car with my grandmother from Walnut Park. Clifton’s was great. I especially remember the miniature bottles of cream with a little white paper top that had to be peeled off.
For me I believe it was a Forest /Waterfall that stands out......... loved the place ... and the Rockview Dairy in Downey had those bottles with the paper inserts up until the late 60's in there drive-up as I remember.😎
The big Key System maintenance shed shown at 24:24 is still standing; it's now a maintenance shed for the Bay Bridge
Thanks for uploading this. Very interesting to see a lot of rare footages from the lost railway lines in a bygone era.
From what I have heard there was a large maintenance yard for (PE?) in Torrance.
I have this dvd and my favorite
All those freeways quickly became parking lots in a decade! One trolley could move dozens of people vs the same space used by cars can hold 6-8 people! UGH
It's often forgotten, but the same fate befell much of the extensive streetcar systems in the old world too. One of the few surviving networks is the KVB in Cologne (Germany). It's somewhat up to debate what saved them, but part of the reason is that they refurbished their rather ancient trolleys to allow for long trains at high speeds.
I have this idea that the Pacific Electric could have looked like this, in a better future: ua-cam.com/video/L836jTAca44/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=359
This is an old interurban line from 1906, absorbed into the city-owned KVB trolley network in the 1980s. The KVB basically took everything they could get hold of to allow through-services running from their own streetcar-tunnels to neighboring cities. There are similar projects already built and underway to connect old trolley networks together with newly built interurban lines.
Growing up, my parents had a summer cabin at Huntington Lake. The electricity generated from the lake helped power the LARY and PE.
thank you, mr. smiley. i am smiling.
Streetcars are so much better than buses.
Amen, I love em
Btw, buses are nothing but AUTOMOBILES anyway, soooo....
Where is all that LA Smog? Oh wait electric trolleys don't pollute like cars and diesel buses!
the big one that got away.
HA-HA! I remember seeing a placemat sold at the Orange Empire Railway Museum store with a map of the P.E., and the caption below it said the exact same thing in your comment, with not one single word changed!
You can thank General Motors for not seeing these beauties today.
Not only GM, but Ford, Mack Truck, Standard Oil, Phillips Petroleum, and Firestone Rubber Company; they ALL combined forces to create the mess we all must suffer with today!
Please read Stanley I. Fischler's "Moving Millions"; this book will uncover what went wrong with good, rail-based public transit in our nation.
For interested parties, a good book by Stanley I. Fischler entitled "Moving Millions" Documents the rise and fall of good rail-based public transit in our nation, and how GM and Ford, while forcing everyone into cars in the USA, was also assisting Hitler's war efforts with the manufacture of heavy truck parts in their Russelsheim facility.
Same goes for Standard Oil and the shennagins they pulled at Monowitz!