Mika Hakkinen | Verge Motorcycles Signature Edition | First Ride & Look and Epic Trip | MOTOUK
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2023
- Don't Miss This - We take the Helicopter to Monaco to test ride the Verge TS Pro Electric Motorcycle, a very new concept and motor within the hub less rear wheel. We also attend the unveiling of the Signature Limited Edition from Mika Hakkinnen, interview Verge CEO. Exciting electric motorcycle with a decent mileage/kilometre range. #electricmotorcycle #monaco #monacohelicopter #vergemotorcycle
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LOVED IT!! Well deserved on the trip and brilliant video!🤩 I’m very jealous- trip of a lifetime, and to Meet Hakkinen!!
Thanks Freddie, looking forward to see more of your trip 👍
For me, the best looking electric bike so far. Think the designers must have been looking at back copies of Bike magazine, when they had the Bloodrunners cartoon running ( replaced Ogri for a few years in the ‘80s if irc) cool vid 👍🏻
Haha I know right 👍 thanks Pete
I really love this bike
A great looking bike, I can't get my head around 1000NM of Torque it must absolutely fly
I have to confess that I'm greener than a green thing after eating too many greens with envy at your trip. Many thanks for sharing your experience. integrating the moving parts into the rear wheel makes a lot of sense as you mention but that will also add mass to the back end. Like most things there will be a certain learning curve with new machines (like the rear brake taking the place of the clutch lever as you mention). I like what they have produced but do hope with an increased scale of volume that prices will adjust accordingly. Having MIka involved and on the video was the cherry on the cake. Many thanks again for sharing.
Thanks Anthony 🙏 yes I love how they have innovated on this bike. My thoughts too on the rotating mass but it felt ok in fact turned in better than other petrol bikes with same width rear tire. I’m going to need for a couple weeks testing to give more a review so stay tuned 👍
Very cool looking machine love the open wheel but the price will kill it
Fabulous, Very cool bike and love everything about it apart from the ££
Thanks Jim, I hope too the price of electric bikes and cars would come down, if not then they will be unreachable for most.
Excellent video mate, and what an amazing adventure for yourself! Onwards and upwards with the channel
Thanks 🙏 was an amazing trip
Rear wheel motor is really clever.
Nice:) Im getting an electric motorcycle. Hard to decide what to get. Hearing the price and specs on this bike, I got very interested. Looks awesome to. This technology is facinating and interesting. Greetings from Norway dear neighbour
G'day mate. I rode the Harley Livewire a little ways back and the acceleration is incedible. Not my kinda thing, but I'm sure people will buy these "Leccy bikes". Internal combustion engines only in my garage!🤣. I wonder if you would have to sell a couple of organs to be able to afford one of these? I reckon I'll stay old school. Thanks for the ride along mate. Ride safe and always ride.
I didn't realise you got the helicoptor from the airport, nice way to arrive 😁
It’s super easy from Nice to Monaco 🇲🇨 price wise £195 each way and 7 minutes including chauffeur to your hotel and back from the Monaco terminal. If taking a taxi it’s 35 mins and around £120 so was a no brainer really and did the trip twice last year.
@@MOTOUK1 Monaco is another place I want to go. I need to get saving
The concept makes so much sense and I think it's really the only way you're going to get practical range out of an electric motorbike....but why do they still have a great big gas tank hump?
Nice looking electric bike out of my price range. More affordable models will become avaliable with mass production. The range is getting better but charging times and the infrastructure needs to greatly improve. Bicycles and twist 'n goes have always had a left hand lever for the back brake. I love it on my scooter.
Thanks Splodge, out of many price range most electric cars and bikes atm.
It looks an interesting bike. I like it when companies try something different. If the thing chews up rear tyres as quick as the MT10, it doesn't look a simple or cheap job to change!
Yes that’s what caught my eye, someone doing something different 👍 tyre change simple like a normal one so I’m told
5 mins to change, there's a short clip around. Probably easier than getting the chain back on.
Looks easy: ua-cam.com/video/lpk7y7bWdCc/v-deo.htmlsi=cLBKgyP9-AxDdnav
Unfortunately they'll never ship any of these bikes to anyone.
They've said that they'll start production soon for three years now.
Clearly, the Verge CEO is twinned with the Missenden Flyer. Nice touch.
I have to say, the bike looks amazing.
Apart from the price; one thing puts me off electric bikes:- The fact they make no noise is a genuine safety issue. If other road users find it difficult to see bikes OR hear them, I'd need to ride very defensively.
Haha the shirt right 🤣 i know what you mean on noise, i have been walking in many Europe cities this and last year and nearly stepped out on an electric scooter a few times absolutely no sound.
@@MOTOUK1 I can see why the power is so immediate, when you consider the rear wheel IS the motor its self.
I remember the first time I drove a Tesla & it almost gave me whiplash when I floored it, because the axles ARE the motor. Zero delay in power delivery.
I'd love a go on one, but like all electric vehicles; I'd never buy one. I'd consider leasing it.
pleas keep up making good videos! 500.000NOK... that is way to expensiv
Test rode a Zero last year. Decent ride, but poor range of 100 miles or so. This looks interesting, but getting the concept into a mass market product is a long journey, and price is high.
What a beautiful place to ride this bike. I’d like to know more about how the bearing in the rear wheel works and durability
Also, what jacket are you wearing?
I didn’t get too much into the technical way this new concept works sorry. Jacket is a Merlin Shenstone U.K. company merlinbikegear good quality only jackets I use now
@@MOTOUK1 Thank you for the reply. It's an impressive machine. Merlin just got a new customer.
I was in Nice last week! I noticed the heli ride to Monaco was being sold at 195 Euro which I thought was decent. Went to Monaco and saw the Verge showroom walking from the train station (didnt get the heli).
Why the Hell didn't they put the back brake on a right hand foot pedal like all other bikes?? Using a left hand lever is like riding a moped!
And-why why why does the pillion get such a tiny seat? It's not a sports bike. I might want to take my Mrs. for a ride. why cant the seat be bigger like on the Kawasaki Z900RS?
And if there IS a passenger I have no choice but to use the forward pegs? It's not a Harley ffs ( I hate Harleys)🤣
Hi 👋 yes its not too back really compared to a taxi cost and time taken. I know the thought also crossed my mind on the rear brake. Kawasaki Z900RS is a nice bike 👍
Stunning looking bike, shame about the lawnmower electric cabling. Great video.
Thanks 🙏 very Flymo 😆
Stunning bike what was the price of that beauty?
Yep, the pricing in euros is at 11:08 mins into the video for all three models
Interesting but ridiculously expensive not happening for years yet 😉👍
Most are buddy, just like the cars 🚗
I want to know about the absence of sound though - is that safe for a bike?
Good question, for the pedestrian, cyclist I say no. I’ve nearly been taken out in London by electric scooters, just couldn’t hear them.
@@MOTOUK1 I like the idea of these, but I think they really have to give them some kind of sound to make. I know it would probably take adjustment, but you can't be flying around on that huge chunk, in silence, to be instantly smashed by a car with its infotainment at Volume Impossible....
I'd probably really start to enjoy a sci-fi, Star Wars, kind of howl, anyway.
@@lewis7515 haha I agree make the things sound like a Jedi fighter but the noise regulators would have a say in this I think. Around my area and in U.K. some places now have noise cameras, it’s getting silly really. I remember my Kawasaki ZX10R had a registered db of 105db and the noise cameras are under this. Mad to think a stock bike breaks the limit of those cameras
Awesome you got the scoop!
It’s a shame, in my opinion, that the bike looks like every other modern bike. I couldn’t ride it, it’s not cool enough. No reflection on your excellent review. You don’t have to agree with me (I know how it is 😉). I guess some of the ‘usual’ motorcycle press channels were there too but I don’t watch them, so thank you for your video.
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Hi 👋 and thanks 🙏 I think we are both on the same page, if it was a electric classic then 👍 but I’m not sure as how to make an electric motor look cool. I was the only U.K. person there as all trip paid for by myself, no freebie hotel or flights on this one. Now while I’m not into electric bikes, having an engineering background I was keen to se the rear wheel hub motor, very different and it just makes sense. I must sub to your Leica channel now. 👍
@@MOTOUK1 Yes I think the hub motor is great. I want an electric motorcycle to look like a Bonneville or a Harley or BMW R18. 👍🏼
Yes me too, maybe it’s time to take that flymo motor and retrofit it to a classic. Only retro one I see is Maveing however it looks a little like a electric bicycle more cross between. I’ve already subbed to your camera channel. 👍 will you be going to any events this summer would be nice to see you again or maybe I can come to wales as only an hour away 👌
@@MOTOUK1 haha yes. I was talking to Maeving a year or so ago, then they got offended that I by accident cc’d another electric brand into an email! But yes it’s nice looking but more bicycle than motorcycle. No plans yet. We’ve got to sort the house move out before we can do anything.
jupp, nice bike, but not so nice pricetag. I hope prices on el motorcycles will drop with more competition in the marked
Arriving by helicopter
Riding a new electric bike
You must have felt like James Bond.
Nice looking bike. Not pocket change.
Still abit wary of electric bikes. Feel like people don’t see us on the road at the best of times let alone being silent.
Good video nick.
😆 thanks John, yes was a 007 moment for sure 👌 very strange silent I agree
nice bike but comes with koso gauge.really they couldnt find a better gauge from ali?haha no thank u.hubless wheel is not new.
not a lover of any electric vehicles, this bike would be a challenge on a proper long run, can't see were any decent luggage would go and will be quite a time before you could maybe attempt the NC 500, but maybe in the future when the infrastructure is in place, wouldn't fancy riding it in heavy rain on the motorway as it is so bare to the elements, interesting to see how it will fare during one of our winters when they bring it over, but please don't let MCN do the review as it will be driven round corners for hours, and if it should break down what would the AA/RAC be able to do ?
Haha I know David, I don’t think electric is the answer if I’m honest. Was a nice trip to Monaco and I would however like to spend more time with this bike, it’s the engineer in me that loves that back wheel Innovation 😂👍
Not better then Energica, twice the price...
Ok 😂
@@MOTOUK1 No, it's not OK.
We don't need status symbol numbered eMC, we need real products at decent price.
Their Zero SF/S competitor starts at 10 000 € more* (which at least has DC charging), their Energica Ego RS competitor starts at double the price and it's limited at 200 km/h instead of 240 km/h, for basically the same performance and 5% less battery (which I guess it recovers thanks to the lack of transmission).
The motor is not even cooled, I wonder how it goes for sustained use.
And no bags, for what I see.
*Which means it's more then both Livewire and Energica Ego.
Apple to apples, you cannot compare the £10k bike to this. You could compare the Eva Ribelle and yes while the Verge is £7k more, you do get DC fast charging 55mins. Both bikes similar range. The Verge does not need cooling as the motor is in the rear wheel. So no gearbox, drive train or cooling making it more efficient. Hard to tell unless you do a comparison.
Real life testing is where it’s at I mean look at teapot one he took the energica rebelle rs round the U.K.
@@MOTOUK1 10 k MORE.
The Zero costs 10 k LESS, 27 k€ vs 37 k€, the only think it lacks is DeCent charging, because Zero is still in 2012.
Energica and Likewire both charge in the same time as this. But they cost half, and Energica Eva/Ego have the same performance, Ego even more (trading 0,1 s for 0-100 to be honest). For half the price.
Cooling on Energica is there to keep sustained performance, as you know heat (induced by electric current) expands materials and increases electric impedance, reducing the performance from constant use (in fact Zero suffers from that) and causing issues with expansion.